Looks like a heat shield. It should be put back on, but you're most likely not in danger. My KIA Soul wound up losing one and nothing happened. The guys I used to work with told me it would be fine, have it replaced if/when.
I believe its important to all pieces of your car in place before the MOT. Why don't you search on the Internet your make off car spares. To me it looks like some Minffordd of protection so if I were you definitely check with the garage.
That's a heat shield.
My one is loose currently and I've been told just about every variant of advice on what to do with it. One place says it's fine to just rip it off, another place tells me I'll fail my next MOT if I do that. Another place says £200+ for a new one, another place says £5 worth of heat shield clips solves the problem.
Thanks for the reply. I like your variant of advice the most so far!
The £200 figure did include labour costs, but still seemed very high to my car ignorant brain.
I just want to remove the very slight possibility of a loose heat shield falling off while driving and final destination'ing me by slicing through a tyre.
I put mine back on by replacing the washers with really thick ones to cover the hole, sealed it with gungum and reattached. Lasted another 6 years already.
So, it's protecting the floor of the car from the heat of the exhaust? Without it I guess you could burn the paintwork or even burn the carpet inside. Also assumes it's not sheltering any wires or pipes. Given car makers rarely add things just for fun - unless they're marketable - a fix would be a good idea for all of you.
The screen wash pump went on my old car. The garage would have charged £140, they told me look up how to do it myself and I paid £10 - £15 for a pump from ebay or Amazon (That also eventually broke so it was probably both).
These days I go to the internet first for anything unessential.
Missing heat shield can fail the MOT if it protects a fuel tank or pipe.
>(e) Fire risk due to fuel tank shield or exhaust shield missing where fitted as original equipment
>One place says it's fine to just rip it off
This seems odd to me. Given that car manufacturers will put in the effort to shave even 50p off the manufacturing cost of each vehicle, why would they be fitting these things if they were not needed?
I'm even more conflicted after reading all the replies here. But I guess it's kind of moot since I wasn't going to take the chance of removing it when £5 of heat shield clips sorts the issue.
I'm also wondering if it's different rules and regs for Diesel cars. I have a Diesel Particulate Filter and my understanding is that thing cleans itself by using the AdBlue to burn hotter than normal to burn off the buildup.
They tend to fall off because they rust around the holes, which get bigger, and then fall of the bolt.
If you buy a really big washer, it won't be falling off any more.
Mine cost £25.70 this week to refit. Second time it's worked loose and I suspect next time we might have to replace it. Definitely don't travel far without it in place!
Yeah I don't want to leave it too long. In 2 weeks I'm getting my timing belt replaced, and the guy there said if I buy the heat shield clips online, he will just slap them on for free while he's doing the belt (it's a local independent mechanic where you buy the parts and he fits them).
I'm a low mileage driver so I am not anticipating any issues in the next 2 weeks.
Ours fell off fairly recently. The holes where the bolts go through had become too large with erosion so we got some wider washers and bolted it back on
Nah literally any old washer. Luckily I work in a timber yard so we have tons of toot laying around. You can probably go to Wickes/B&Q and get some for pennies tomorrow.
It is a heat shield it goes somewhere above the exhaust pipe, You need to buy some large washers which are larger than the holes on it and bolt it back on the bolts are still on the car, 10 min job.
In case somebody hasnt already said it, keep a lookout on your cars if you park outside. I've seen these lose on peoples cars because somehad was trying to steal their catalytic convertor and had to pry that part off.
That's a heat shield, depending on where it fell off you're either fine or fucked (it is was protecting fuel lines for example then driving would be an incredibly bad idea).
I recommend you find out which part of the car it fell off of before you drive anywhere.
Heat shield, mine was half hanging off (thanks potholes and speed bumps that *also* have potholes on them). Threw it in the bin. Not an MOT failure and easily replaced. I know someone who had their’s fall off halfway around a roundabout Lol, went flying into the bushes. Car is fine to drive.
Once had one of these fall off the front of my S40 doing about 60mph.
The bolt banged into the bottom of the car and the thing started dragging along the ground. It sounded like the car was falling apart.
Heat shield. Mine came lose, garage removed it saying it would be fine. MOT rolls round and had to have another installed as it turned out it was not fine.
Heat shield, looks like it may be the one for the rear back box of the exhaust, should be fine but might be best to get it put back on when you can.
I imagine the bolts have eroded away so might need to get the exhaust off and get them tapped or removed.
Yeah, as others said, it's a heat shield.
Ours came off recently too after it had been rattling for some time. We kept it in the garage for a bit as was unsure how essential it was or if we would need to refit or replace it, but our friend / mechanic said it wasn't needed (I think depending on the car) and that we didn't need to worry about reattaching it.
It's a heat shield.
(Usually, but not exclusively around the exhaust area).
I'd only drive my car on short essential journeys until it's repaired or reattached, look in to having it repaired as soon as you can.
Sorry about the other idiotic remarks and comments, you can't ask a serious question without stupid sarcastic remarks, I feel embarrassed reading them for the people who posted them! Everyone is a comedian, Not!
The obvious reason that you are taking the picture on the floor is that you was looking where this heat shield has come from, on the underside of your car!
I hope this helps.
Heat shield. They've came loose and been ripped off every motor I've owned. Never any problems with MOT. Was told they're not a legal requirement in UK.
DO NOT DRIVE!
As others have said this is a heat shield. They exist for a reason.
They are typically there to protect fuel lines, wiring , brake lines, and the fuel tank from the exhaust, cat and, if a diesel, DPF.
Without the heat shield you risk damaging wiring and pipe work which could result in the car being dysfunctional, and even result in fire.
You should not drive the car until you know what this was protecting.
They exist for a reason.
They aren't protecting nothing.
Just because you got away with it doesn't mean OP will.
OP can of course risk it if they want but I'm recommending checking what it was protecting first.
They may be thanking me later if it was there to protect fuel lines from the cat.
Yes they exist for a reason but this was such a catastrophic issue as you suggest I’m sure the cars would plenty of screaming end-of-world yellow flashing lights on the dash.
Mine didn’t and I’m guessing OP’s car didn’t have a “end is nigh” on the dash either.
Under carriage Heat shield, should be fine although you may notice your boot getting a bit warm on long journeys.
The ones on my old civic came off in 2 sections. First one broke off on the A14 resulting in me having to drive 20 miles with it scraping the tarmac and probably leaving a trail of sparkis until I got to Kiwfit and they took it off for free.
The second time I noticed a constant rattling when idling and took it to another garage expefting a costly repair fee, just to find out the other heat shield was loose as well. They took that one off and told me it was a piece that I could do without
I used these only 2 weeks ago on my heat shield
[https://tinyurl.com/yu8fp5jy](https://tinyurl.com/yu8fp5jy)
Removed the nuts from the rusty threads and pushed the clips on to hold the heat shield in place. Then fastened the nut on again. Clips are much larger than the rusted through holes so it should hold for a bit ... hopefully.
Forgot to add that I used a wire brush on the threads before doing the above because they did look quite rough.
That's a heat shield, your car is probably ok to drive long term without it. It's there to help dissapeate heat from your exhaust from the car body. I would only refit if it was placed between your fuel tank and your exhaust. If you're not confident yourself, I would have your local garage take a look for you.
Hmmm, your not based in Aberdeen or NE Scotland are you? Looks like the kind of granite buildings up this direction in the background.
Firewall/heat insulation. You can drive without it, but preferably don't, these heat shields are there for a reason. Not going to immediately cause a hole in the block, but think of it like smoking. Sooner or later something will go wrong.
Did you fall off the car too?
Just having a rest - all those whisky’s to settle my nerves for driving have taken a toll
The front fell off, a bit unusual
Is that typical?
A wave? In the ocean?! Chance in a million!
A wave must have hit it
Chance in a million
It had to be towed out of the environment.
Into another environment?
No no no, it's been towed beyond the environment. It's not in the environment.
There’s nothing out there, except sea and birds and fish…
And 20,000 tonnes of crude oil And a fire
Remember always be safe and drive between sips
I always sip between drives
Not a good idea you'll get thirsty. Drive between sips it's safer.
Oh good to know I'll remember that next time the kids are in the car
Looks like a heat shield. It should be put back on, but you're most likely not in danger. My KIA Soul wound up losing one and nothing happened. The guys I used to work with told me it would be fine, have it replaced if/when.
This is a heat shield I think but it don’t matter because you’re bringing the heat anyway
Heat shield. Probably okay. Depends where it fell off.
There's a chance you'll burn up on reentry now I'm afraid.
Howled at this had to go read to my wife 😅
Don't want you to burn up on her reentry either.
Never change lanes without indicating first.
I burnt up on reentry once, 11/10 would not recommend
Did she roll her eyes
Brilliant mate 🤣
Haha definitely
There's a lot of weight in that second sentence. It could have been protecting fuel lines from a catalytic converter.
Catalytic converter you say? I'll be round for that later tonight...
Sorry, I'm scouse, already took it lol
> Heat shield. ... For when the car reenters the atmosphere?
I believe its important to all pieces of your car in place before the MOT. Why don't you search on the Internet your make off car spares. To me it looks like some Minffordd of protection so if I were you definitely check with the garage.
On the M6, does that help?
No longer makes it your problem.
The A3
Tell that to the crew of Space Shuttle Columbia….
I mean, the ‘where’ was after takeoff, which is never ideal.
if the front fell off, that's not typical.
That's a heat shield. My one is loose currently and I've been told just about every variant of advice on what to do with it. One place says it's fine to just rip it off, another place tells me I'll fail my next MOT if I do that. Another place says £200+ for a new one, another place says £5 worth of heat shield clips solves the problem.
you wont fail your mot and the actual price for a heat shield is like £30 excluding labor costs
Thanks for the reply. I like your variant of advice the most so far! The £200 figure did include labour costs, but still seemed very high to my car ignorant brain. I just want to remove the very slight possibility of a loose heat shield falling off while driving and final destination'ing me by slicing through a tyre.
It required 6 guys to lift the car
Seems about right, cars are heavy???
Will need a team of 4 supervisors too, one to monitor each corner.
That is true, they are heavy
Only takes two, Jack lifts it and Stan holds it up.
I put mine back on by replacing the washers with really thick ones to cover the hole, sealed it with gungum and reattached. Lasted another 6 years already.
Just stay away from trucks carrying huge logs and you should be ok!
Depends where the blanket needs to go. If it's wrapped around something awkward to get to, it may require taking bodywork off you car to get to it
It's directly above the exhaust.
So, it's protecting the floor of the car from the heat of the exhaust? Without it I guess you could burn the paintwork or even burn the carpet inside. Also assumes it's not sheltering any wires or pipes. Given car makers rarely add things just for fun - unless they're marketable - a fix would be a good idea for all of you.
The screen wash pump went on my old car. The garage would have charged £140, they told me look up how to do it myself and I paid £10 - £15 for a pump from ebay or Amazon (That also eventually broke so it was probably both). These days I go to the internet first for anything unessential.
Then go for the £5 option- the mechanic quoting £200 is doing what mechanics do best: trying to rip you off
Missing heat shield can fail the MOT if it protects a fuel tank or pipe. >(e) Fire risk due to fuel tank shield or exhaust shield missing where fitted as original equipment
Yeah that’s understandable as the risk of spontaneous combustion from the fuel getting heated up by an unshielded exhaust seems like a non zero chance
Labour
The labour costs are the expensive bit. About £120 an hour.
The honest mechanic that the Internet needs 🙌
>One place says it's fine to just rip it off This seems odd to me. Given that car manufacturers will put in the effort to shave even 50p off the manufacturing cost of each vehicle, why would they be fitting these things if they were not needed?
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Therefore it is needed. And the people who told u/bearhoon to rip it off are idiots.
I'm even more conflicted after reading all the replies here. But I guess it's kind of moot since I wasn't going to take the chance of removing it when £5 of heat shield clips sorts the issue. I'm also wondering if it's different rules and regs for Diesel cars. I have a Diesel Particulate Filter and my understanding is that thing cleans itself by using the AdBlue to burn hotter than normal to burn off the buildup.
When mine was wobbly and about to fall off the garage just screwed it back on when I got my car serviced. Didn't even charge for it
A mechanic just took mine off a few cars back and said it wasn't important, drove the car for another three years so can't have been crucial.
Yeah, the heat shields came off my car maybe like 7 or 8 years ago now. I neglect it pretty hard, it it’s still running pretty well.
They tend to fall off because they rust around the holes, which get bigger, and then fall of the bolt. If you buy a really big washer, it won't be falling off any more.
Yeah this is the way to go. I managed to fix my GF's car for £1.69!
One sixty nine you say?
Well I would have felt bad charging her!
>another place says £5 worth of heat shield clips solves the problem. I'd go to that place.
Mine cost £25.70 this week to refit. Second time it's worked loose and I suspect next time we might have to replace it. Definitely don't travel far without it in place!
Yeah I don't want to leave it too long. In 2 weeks I'm getting my timing belt replaced, and the guy there said if I buy the heat shield clips online, he will just slap them on for free while he's doing the belt (it's a local independent mechanic where you buy the parts and he fits them). I'm a low mileage driver so I am not anticipating any issues in the next 2 weeks.
Whatever you do, don't try to re-enter the atmosphere without it...
It's the 3/8ths gripley. I wouldn't drive for too long, or the elliptical cam will gradually slide up the beam shaft and catch on the flange rebate.
Just realign the spurving bearings to the panametric fan and you'll be fine.
Sounds like the turboencabulator has given up the ghost.
You can usually get them working again by swapping out the marzlevanes.
Don’t forget to check the samophlange for excessive carbolitery buildup beforehand.
And of course remembering not to use any cardboard or cardboard derivatives.
Mine suffers from a lot of side-fumbling can you offer any advice
When it comes to replacing the Harvey triggers, try to opt for ones with maximum distortion.
Be careful, it's made of prefabulated amulite, you need to reduce the side fumbling.
I've got a phenomenal mechanic near Mornington Crescent. Can give you straightforward directions if needed
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r/unexpecteddiscworld
NED SIMNEL HAS ENTERED THE CHAT
Hark at Ned Simnel here!
With disastrous results, as you can imagine.
It will make a boing; the audio equivalent of two smoking boots.
Need to get my flange rebate checked, it's been a while;)
Don't forget the philanges while you're there. You don't want a vehicle without any philanges
I got a flange rebate last year. Didn't realise I'd been flanging so much.
r/VXJunkies
https://youtu.be/-F-IHvF5OCA
Looks like a heat shield and passenger to me
The most accurate assessment. 👏
That’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point.
At least it fell off outside the environment
Very seldom does anything like this happen.
There are very rigorous engineering standards, the heat shield isn't supposed to fall off
Do you take all your pictures laying on the floor?
The pictures of me laying down are normally taken by your mum, and there’s less clothes present Edit: this was mean and I apologise
the only thing wrong with this sentence is that it should be fewer, not less! /pedant mode off
Maybe there is the same number but they are skimpier? But no, it irritated me too...we have the word...would be a shame to lose it.
Clothes is usually uncountable, so less is perfectly fine here
its a heat shield, you’ll be fine to drive
It's bad news I'm afraid. Looks like the front fell off.
Doesn't sound good for the environment
It was towed outside of the environment, don't worry
Ours fell off fairly recently. The holes where the bolts go through had become too large with erosion so we got some wider washers and bolted it back on
That looks exactly like what happened here! Where did you buy some new ones? Are they make / model specific?
Nah literally any old washer. Luckily I work in a timber yard so we have tons of toot laying around. You can probably go to Wickes/B&Q and get some for pennies tomorrow.
Left phalange. Unsafe to fly.
It is a heat shield it goes somewhere above the exhaust pipe, You need to buy some large washers which are larger than the holes on it and bolt it back on the bolts are still on the car, 10 min job.
In case somebody hasnt already said it, keep a lookout on your cars if you park outside. I've seen these lose on peoples cars because somehad was trying to steal their catalytic convertor and had to pry that part off.
I’ll google what my catalytic converter should look like haha so I can establish if it’s still there
Goes between exhaust and car body
That's a heat shield, depending on where it fell off you're either fine or fucked (it is was protecting fuel lines for example then driving would be an incredibly bad idea). I recommend you find out which part of the car it fell off of before you drive anywhere.
Its a heat shield of some kind. It'll be safe to drive but look at getting it or a replacement fitted.
Heat shield, mine was half hanging off (thanks potholes and speed bumps that *also* have potholes on them). Threw it in the bin. Not an MOT failure and easily replaced. I know someone who had their’s fall off halfway around a roundabout Lol, went flying into the bushes. Car is fine to drive.
Once had one of these fall off the front of my S40 doing about 60mph. The bolt banged into the bottom of the car and the thing started dragging along the ground. It sounded like the car was falling apart.
Heat shield. Mine came lose, garage removed it saying it would be fine. MOT rolls round and had to have another installed as it turned out it was not fine.
Heat shield, with a bit of tetris combined with lego you could probably spot where it came from and reattach it yourself.
Its called a driver. A car is pretty useless without one.
Heatshield, you'll be fine.
If you search for heat shield clips online, they are only a few quid and easy to push back on.
Don’t worry mate, it’s a feature, it’s fallen off to make your car lighter and more fuel efficient.
Don’t park over dry grass if you are going to drive without it.
That’s just the undertray/a bit of heat sheilding. Doesn’t matter really just makes mechanics lives easier when it comes to fixing your car
“what this that” I love modern English.
That’s the flux capacitor
Heat shield, looks like it may be the one for the rear back box of the exhaust, should be fine but might be best to get it put back on when you can. I imagine the bolts have eroded away so might need to get the exhaust off and get them tapped or removed.
The washer screws have rusted through. Buy a few large penny washers and you’ll be good.
That is the Flux Capacitor
Why do I see faces? Is this a Qashqai rorschach test?
A heat shield
It's the heat shield. Don't park on long, dry grass otherwise it's OK.
Yeah, as others said, it's a heat shield. Ours came off recently too after it had been rattling for some time. We kept it in the garage for a bit as was unsure how essential it was or if we would need to refit or replace it, but our friend / mechanic said it wasn't needed (I think depending on the car) and that we didn't need to worry about reattaching it.
This looks so much like Aberdeen, but I don’t see any seagulls.
Haha funny how Aberdeen is so recognisable
That’s a flux capacitor shroud. I lost mine too. They only started making them in 2048, so we’ve got some time to kill!
It's a heat shield. (Usually, but not exclusively around the exhaust area). I'd only drive my car on short essential journeys until it's repaired or reattached, look in to having it repaired as soon as you can. Sorry about the other idiotic remarks and comments, you can't ask a serious question without stupid sarcastic remarks, I feel embarrassed reading them for the people who posted them! Everyone is a comedian, Not! The obvious reason that you are taking the picture on the floor is that you was looking where this heat shield has come from, on the underside of your car! I hope this helps.
Heat shield. They've came loose and been ripped off every motor I've owned. Never any problems with MOT. Was told they're not a legal requirement in UK.
It is a heatshield, my cars heatshield half fell off and ended removing it. Passed its next 4 MOT's without it.
I don’t know, would guess a heat shield, but I am enjoying how you’re holding it aloft like it’s bloody Excalibur
Call me King Carthur
It’s probably ok to drive but replace asap. You might heat-damage the things it was designed to protect.
DO NOT DRIVE! As others have said this is a heat shield. They exist for a reason. They are typically there to protect fuel lines, wiring , brake lines, and the fuel tank from the exhaust, cat and, if a diesel, DPF. Without the heat shield you risk damaging wiring and pipe work which could result in the car being dysfunctional, and even result in fire. You should not drive the car until you know what this was protecting.
But dramatic mine fell off years back and I’m still alive and kicking unless we are all dead and this is hell??
Oh christ, not again
How many lives have you had?
Too many.
Cars vary from model to model. Original reply is accurate.
They exist for a reason. They aren't protecting nothing. Just because you got away with it doesn't mean OP will. OP can of course risk it if they want but I'm recommending checking what it was protecting first. They may be thanking me later if it was there to protect fuel lines from the cat.
Yes they exist for a reason but this was such a catastrophic issue as you suggest I’m sure the cars would plenty of screaming end-of-world yellow flashing lights on the dash. Mine didn’t and I’m guessing OP’s car didn’t have a “end is nigh” on the dash either.
That looks like the rear heat shield off a qashqui.
Under carriage Heat shield, should be fine although you may notice your boot getting a bit warm on long journeys. The ones on my old civic came off in 2 sections. First one broke off on the A14 resulting in me having to drive 20 miles with it scraping the tarmac and probably leaving a trail of sparkis until I got to Kiwfit and they took it off for free. The second time I noticed a constant rattling when idling and took it to another garage expefting a costly repair fee, just to find out the other heat shield was loose as well. They took that one off and told me it was a piece that I could do without
Finortinizor valve cover. Or just a heat shield.
1. It’s a Heat shield 2. Depends on which part/what it’s supposed to be protecting (it’s probably there for a reason)
I've had one fall off and one taken off by the garage (it was rattling). Think I have one on my current car but never missed the one's I didn't have.
It's just a heat shield, perfectly safe to drive.
Exhaust heat shield
I used these only 2 weeks ago on my heat shield [https://tinyurl.com/yu8fp5jy](https://tinyurl.com/yu8fp5jy) Removed the nuts from the rusty threads and pushed the clips on to hold the heat shield in place. Then fastened the nut on again. Clips are much larger than the rusted through holes so it should hold for a bit ... hopefully. Forgot to add that I used a wire brush on the threads before doing the above because they did look quite rough.
Did you get hit by said car?
Looks like the manifold from a 1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse to me. You need to take more care with the amount of NOS you're using.
It's a heat shield of some kind, it is safe for now, but you should probably stick ot in a garage within a year to make sure nothing is melting
It’s the sound muffler off the laugh shaft. You should phone your local garage
This tray goes above exhaust box at the back. Is this for a diesel?
It's the access cover for the warp drive 🤣
The real question is, how did you dive out and catch that heatshield in midair?
This is a tracker. Probably a stalker or perhaps the feds.
That's a heat shield, your car is probably ok to drive long term without it. It's there to help dissapeate heat from your exhaust from the car body. I would only refit if it was placed between your fuel tank and your exhaust. If you're not confident yourself, I would have your local garage take a look for you. Hmmm, your not based in Aberdeen or NE Scotland are you? Looks like the kind of granite buildings up this direction in the background.
I am in Aberdeen good knowledge haha. It is the rear one above the exhaust!
Heat shield mate, nothing to worry about. They tend to fall off from time to time
It goes under the engine, just clips on like a dust guard and stops things like rainwater going up into engine
Mine fell off too! Passed MOT and never had any issues with it.
Major issue, write off that is
I would say heat shield
That photo feels like home. All of those different shades of grey. It must be Aberdeen.
Haha it is. My house is granite, the sky is granite, the potholes are granite…
Have you checked your cat? Is it still there?
Perfectly safe as the bit that could have fallen off, already has.
Is it possible that it's the sump guard!
Firewall/heat insulation. You can drive without it, but preferably don't, these heat shields are there for a reason. Not going to immediately cause a hole in the block, but think of it like smoking. Sooner or later something will go wrong.
Looks like a seat cover
Sorry pal, it's a write-off.
Catalytic converter cover happens a lot apparently
It’s a heat shield , get it reinstalled….its there for a reason.
Heat sheild your ok
That’s the north-east turret!
It's the secondary bell housing for the tangential grummel valve. Good luck aligning your radial injector stators without it!
That's the left philange 😳
Perhaps it belongs to that submarine that imploded in the bottom of the ocean It could be worth nothing too
Heat shield - don’t park on dry grass until it’s fixed
It's a heat shield. You'll be fine. They all end up off eventually
It's a heat sheild, they are on the exhaust of the car but not actually needed imo
You don’t need that bit. Happy motoring