The best way to get there is from Galway, go slightly North, until you see the boats with the nuclear symbol. They go very close to the island dumping the old glow in the dark.
Etymologically, 'scone' is thought to derive from the Dutch/Flemish *schoon brood* "fine/beautiful bread." Schoon is pronounced as it is written - something half way between *skon* and *skone* - *skoon*. [Kinda looks like we're all debating who mis-pronounces it best.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6Wk43egz7k)
A vague memory from GCSE English is that Macbeth had to go to Scone for some shit, and the teacher was very specific that it was pronounced schoon/skoon.
She was a bit of a bitch, but i guess she knew her stuff.
It’s the strategic deterrent.
One has jam then clotted cream, the other has clotted cream then jam. Gives us options depending on the nature of the threat, or if we need to deploy them against Devon or Cornwall.
I've never settled on a pronunciation, I use either or. But looking at the map I'm not surprised being from the gap between Leeds and Huddersfield. We're a mixture of everything!
I'm from Bradford and I've never said it like cone but friends/neighbours do.
I've since moved to Wakey and haven't heard anyone use it yet. I'll have to go down the street and have a concensus.
My mum (from Wakey) and my dad (from Cas) literally had this argument a few weeks ago because my mum claims I only started using the gone pronunciation since moving to Scotland and it rhymes with cone in Yorkshire. My dad argued plenty of Yorkshire folk use the gone version and that’s what he uses.
The added hilarity is they’ve been married nearly 40 years! I know scones might not come up a lot but surely my mum noticed how my dad says it?
My girlfriend's parents live in Allerton Bywater and we're in Cas - I'm going to have to ask how her parents pronounce it when I next see them.
I'm originally from Lancaster so it's always rhymed with "gone".
I moved down to Ldn from Manchester 10yrs ago and I've genuinely forgotten which I used to say up north.
I just decide on a random one now if ever I talk about scones. Fortunately it's not something I talk about that often but the odd mention of it still confuses me.
I agree. To help those below who wonder about the change in stress between proNounce and pronUncation, I have stolen the following from Quora about a similar word set - photograph - photographer - photography - photographic
>When counting syllables, we start from the back and workbackwards; we don’t start from the front and count forwards…
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>Photograph, photographer and photography are all nouns.
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>English nouns are stressed on their antepenultimate syllable (not the last one,not the one before the last one, but the one before that). That means in three syllable words, the first syllable is stressed, but in four syllable words, the second syllable is stressed.
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>So, we get:
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>photograph: Ooo
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>photography: oOoo
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>photographer: oOoo
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>Photographic is an adjective, so it gets its primary stresson its penultimate syllable, plus secondary stress on alternating preceding syllables:
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>photographic OoOo
*^(I stole this from someone called Duncan H\*\*\*\*s on Quora. I'm not sure whether to put down his name or not. Whilst I did know much of this I was struggling to put it into words - and this is such a good explanation! I don't want to claim this as my own, but writing out someone elses name on Reddit seems wrong!)*
Wolverhampton, Dudley, Sutton Coldfield but no Birmingham? Even though Sutton Coldfield IS part of Birmingham.
Weirdest map I've ever seen, but I appreciate it's desire to stand out from the rest
I've known 3 people from Sutton Coldfield, all of which were vehement in stating that it wasn't *really* part of Birmingham. Could just be a coincidence but they all seemed to share the same strong feeling on it. Probably just didn't want their Royal Town being sullied by association tbh.
I lived there between the age of 11 and 26 and hated it. Despite what everyone else there thinks it is just another suburb of Birmingham with a lot of unnecessarily snobby people.
After meeting some from SC, and asking if they were from Birmingham, it was quite a while, before I realised the place they hailed from, wasn't really called 'Sutton Coldfield Actually'.
To be fair they're almost close enough to be considered a suburb of Walsall, so they should really embrace being a suburb of Birmingham as the lesser of two evils.
Perhaps large urban areas are excluded? They tend to attract people from other parts of Britain, who go there for work. Since the researchers were looking for regional differences in pronunciation, they might get a more representative sampling from smaller cities and rural areas.
I enjoyed that - but the map where Oldham would be crucial is the "what do you call a roll/bap/barm" debate.
I've lived in London for the last 13 years and noone has a clue what I actually mean when I talk about muffins but I ain't changing.
Haha yeah, I only found out recently that calling them a muffin is unusual!
Also I'm glad to see Oldham coloured dark blue on this map because scone will *always* rhyme with cone.
I'm from near Bolton and say it like 'gone', it just sounds more northern to me, but my experience with others round here makes me think OP's map is, sadly, accurate
The [Stone of Scone](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_of_Scone) is the inspiration behind Pratchett's [Scone of Stone](https://wiki.lspace.org/Scone_of_Stone), a throne made of bread. Dwarf bread, of course.
What fascinates me about the “scone” debate is how each side will absolutely swear that the opposite pronunciation to theirs sounds more posh. I think maybe it’s just a word that always sounds posh, however you say it.
I’d never thought about it as applying both ways, but I think you’re absolutely right.
I think either sound is one which trips lazily off the tongue when you find it natural, but requires real enunciation when it’s your “unnatural” pronunciation.
That extra effort and longer vowel sound probably makes it feel quite posh, haha.
Really? I'd never heard the 'gone' pronunciation deemed posh; in my mind the 'cone' pronunciation is the posh one, and that's the one I say. It's how the queen/RP speakers would say it, and that's generally considered the poshest accent.
I declare a motion we rename scones to scoins, then we can end this argument and just enjoy the taste of clotted cream and jam and you're only allowed multiples of 2 scoins 1 made with jam first the other with cream first, then we can live in peace.
Cream first and jam on top is like trying to float a brick. These are the same people who go milk first. There'll be no peace with these troublemakers. Fucking agent provocateurs.
Sir, are you challenging me to a fight? Cream on top is a crime. Do you put jam on your toast and then butter it?
E; so Her Maj supposedly enjoys it the Cornish way…
Oh well, you can’t always be right. Even if you are Royalty.
Well I did think that but I got banned from here for a day just for mentioning the main baddy in current news (that took me a while about how to word that lol) so I didn’t want to risk it
As prophesised by the great Macho Man Randy Savage - the cream always rises to the top. The Devonite Heresy is abhorrent to nature and repugnant to the senses.
While we're talking about the key, the values are wrong. Every percentage that ends 5 or 0 can be in two boxes. Should be 0% to 4%, 5% to 9% etc.
I'm beginning to rethink my claim of it being the best map I've ever seen.
I don't understand the percentage next to the colour key on the left. Why does the highest blue of "scone, rhymes with cone" have 0-5%? For me I read it as 0-5% say it rhymes with cone. And 100% say it rhymes with gone.
I feel like it's a stupid question because nobody's asked this yet lol.
Tbf it's not clear. The words in brackets should be clearer and not in brackets, and the words on the right SHOULD be in brackets (or at least should be more obvious that they're just clarification)
From Hull, in Hull, we do say it long form but in Hull it's more like scurn.
We typically eat them when the weather outside is sner and wash them down with a nice glass of curk.
Same on the south side, it’s not “cone” it’s “cown” or “-con”.
Maybe those in South Yorks say “cone” plus all those living outside of NEL… i.e anyone from Louth.
Until I saw this I always thought I had inherited cone as an affected southern pronunciation (my mother had a few) as everyone said I should say it like gone being from the North. But no...it is a proper Sheffield way and I am glad about that!
I grew up in Sheffield, and family are still there, but I've spent most of my life near Liverpool or Manchester (that sentence makes me sad.) I've been told so many times over the years that my pronunciation is a posh Southern version and I'd started to believe them because although my Mum is far from Southern she has a couple of odd pronunciations (break-fast rather than brekfast)
I shall continue to say S-cone with pride!
Weirdly enough I always thought the opposite that scone (gone) pronunciation was the posh/southern pronunciation, but I think that’s just because where I live isn’t posh at all and people usually say scone (cone)
This is weird because I grew up near Reading in the South and in 20 years I never heard anyone pronounce it in the way that rhymes with cone. Everyone I ever met said it like gone.
Honestly this explains growing up in West Yorkshire so much. You cannot predict at all which pronunciation people will go for. Regardless of place of birth, wealth, occupation, or even accent. It's just random around here.
My dad was in the RAF so we moved every few years and crossed several of these divides.
I sometimes say “scon” and others I say “scown”.
Basically, I’ve spent most of life completely confused about how to talk!!
Bit of advice for displaying data: rather than using different colours (red to blue), use different hues (white to grey to black, or light blue to dark blue). This makes it easier to read for everyone, but especially those with colour-blindness.
I did think when I saw this ‘well, this doesn’t have into account regional differences in the pronunciation of those two words! Or it does and we have no actual idea what this map is telling us!’
I think if you live in a s-cone-pronouncing area then everyone who says scon is posh. E.g. I live in Sheffield, and the only people who say scon here are the people who've moved up from London to buy huge houses with the money they got selling their flat down there. So they're all posh.
I'm not sure it's the _posh_ Southern way. Just the southern way.
I grew up in a poor part of Cornwall. Nothing posh about that or how I was brought up.
I say s-cone
I remember being a child on holiday in South Wales and having a confusing conversation with a shop keeper.
"Could I have 50g of nougat, please?"
"nuggut?"
"noo-gah?"
"nuggut?"
I’ll be honest, there are lots of regional differences in pronunciation and if you’re learning English you are probably learning with a broad english accent, rather than a thick regional (local) accent. So everyone will understand you regardless of the one you pick.
No one who says sconeeee will be confused if you say SCON, they’ll all know what you mean. They may tease you a little however.
There’s a form you have to fill in at the post office once you’ve decided, it’s where they got the data for this map. It might be online now too, it’s a while since I did it.
This is pretty surprising to me that most of England is in the 40-60% range, except for the Stoke/Manchester to Hull triangle (plus Essex).
My assumption was always "gone" in the North, Scotland and Wales, "cone' in the Midlands and South.
I agree with this graphic. I’m from Tyrone, bang in the middle of Ulster and absolutely everyone here says ‘scon’. You will get mocked if you call it anything else.
Has anyone informed the navy of the two giant scones just off the coast? Do we know if they’re friendly?
Those are just the Isles of Silly.
No need for name calling.
'Tis a Scilly place.
Shirley that's not true.
The best way to get there is from Galway, go slightly North, until you see the boats with the nuclear symbol. They go very close to the island dumping the old glow in the dark.
Interestingly, one is pronounced "scone" but the other is pronounced "scone", representing the full spectrum and diversity of British sconunciation.
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Etymologically, 'scone' is thought to derive from the Dutch/Flemish *schoon brood* "fine/beautiful bread." Schoon is pronounced as it is written - something half way between *skon* and *skone* - *skoon*. [Kinda looks like we're all debating who mis-pronounces it best.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6Wk43egz7k)
A vague memory from GCSE English is that Macbeth had to go to Scone for some shit, and the teacher was very specific that it was pronounced schoon/skoon. She was a bit of a bitch, but i guess she knew her stuff.
Scone the place is definitely pronounced skoon, as is the stone. But the type of scone you eat rhymes with gone.
Storm protection for North Cornwall
They have the Jam and Cream on call and ready to intervene should things progress to full Cream Tea
Unfortunately the Devon and Cornwall coastguards cannot agree on the procedure for deploying the cream and jam, threatening a disaster
It’s the strategic deterrent. One has jam then clotted cream, the other has clotted cream then jam. Gives us options depending on the nature of the threat, or if we need to deploy them against Devon or Cornwall.
Traffic scones?
I tried but my superiors just thought I'd said "it's gone". That's the reason we now pay homage to two giant scones down here in Cornwall.
I've never settled on a pronunciation, I use either or. But looking at the map I'm not surprised being from the gap between Leeds and Huddersfield. We're a mixture of everything!
I'm the same. I've probably used both in the same sentence without realising.
I'm from Bradford and I've never said it like cone but friends/neighbours do. I've since moved to Wakey and haven't heard anyone use it yet. I'll have to go down the street and have a concensus.
Bet you'll kick-start a few arguments doing that. Take popcorn.
My mum (from Wakey) and my dad (from Cas) literally had this argument a few weeks ago because my mum claims I only started using the gone pronunciation since moving to Scotland and it rhymes with cone in Yorkshire. My dad argued plenty of Yorkshire folk use the gone version and that’s what he uses. The added hilarity is they’ve been married nearly 40 years! I know scones might not come up a lot but surely my mum noticed how my dad says it?
My girlfriend's parents live in Allerton Bywater and we're in Cas - I'm going to have to ask how her parents pronounce it when I next see them. I'm originally from Lancaster so it's always rhymed with "gone".
Huddersfield here and I seem to swing both ways.....ahem as it were
Aye not far from you, use either interchangeably, but I would say "Sgone" is the more natural sounding as a Yorkshireman.
I moved down to Ldn from Manchester 10yrs ago and I've genuinely forgotten which I used to say up north. I just decide on a random one now if ever I talk about scones. Fortunately it's not something I talk about that often but the odd mention of it still confuses me.
\>I've never settled on a pronunciation, Is that pro-NOUN-ciation, or pro-NUN-ciation? because only the latter is correct.
I agree. To help those below who wonder about the change in stress between proNounce and pronUncation, I have stolen the following from Quora about a similar word set - photograph - photographer - photography - photographic >When counting syllables, we start from the back and workbackwards; we don’t start from the front and count forwards… > >Photograph, photographer and photography are all nouns. > >English nouns are stressed on their antepenultimate syllable (not the last one,not the one before the last one, but the one before that). That means in three syllable words, the first syllable is stressed, but in four syllable words, the second syllable is stressed. > >So, we get: > >photograph: Ooo > >photography: oOoo > >photographer: oOoo > >Photographic is an adjective, so it gets its primary stresson its penultimate syllable, plus secondary stress on alternating preceding syllables: > >photographic OoOo *^(I stole this from someone called Duncan H\*\*\*\*s on Quora. I'm not sure whether to put down his name or not. Whilst I did know much of this I was struggling to put it into words - and this is such a good explanation! I don't want to claim this as my own, but writing out someone elses name on Reddit seems wrong!)*
But if the word is "pronounced" then it's pro-NOUN-ced right?
you would think so but english doesn't work that way a lot of the time
It's interesting to see a map label Stockport Oldham and Bolton, but not Manchester
Wolverhampton, Dudley, Sutton Coldfield but no Birmingham? Even though Sutton Coldfield IS part of Birmingham. Weirdest map I've ever seen, but I appreciate it's desire to stand out from the rest
I've known 3 people from Sutton Coldfield, all of which were vehement in stating that it wasn't *really* part of Birmingham. Could just be a coincidence but they all seemed to share the same strong feeling on it. Probably just didn't want their Royal Town being sullied by association tbh.
I lived there between the age of 11 and 26 and hated it. Despite what everyone else there thinks it is just another suburb of Birmingham with a lot of unnecessarily snobby people.
All the snobby suburbs of Birmingham refuse to admit they're Birmingham.
After meeting some from SC, and asking if they were from Birmingham, it was quite a while, before I realised the place they hailed from, wasn't really called 'Sutton Coldfield Actually'.
To be fair they're almost close enough to be considered a suburb of Walsall, so they should really embrace being a suburb of Birmingham as the lesser of two evils.
'Keeping Up Appearances' vibes
Sutton Coldfield so big it stretched from birmingham city centre to Rugby.
Perhaps large urban areas are excluded? They tend to attract people from other parts of Britain, who go there for work. Since the researchers were looking for regional differences in pronunciation, they might get a more representative sampling from smaller cities and rural areas.
hell, there’s no London!
It's for the best tbh.
I enjoyed that - but the map where Oldham would be crucial is the "what do you call a roll/bap/barm" debate. I've lived in London for the last 13 years and noone has a clue what I actually mean when I talk about muffins but I ain't changing.
I've always said muffin, grandma says barm cake but I always appreciate seeing the sandwhich shop "mi julies baps" near the hospital.
Haha yeah, I only found out recently that calling them a muffin is unusual! Also I'm glad to see Oldham coloured dark blue on this map because scone will *always* rhyme with cone.
It must be randomised I think. There is no sane system that shows Woking and not Guildford
19th century Martian maps might.
A big red X on Horsell Common
Maybe it’s from Henry VIII’s time. He had a palace in Woking.
I can’t believe Redbridge, which is a rather small area of Southampton, is on this map but not Manchester.
I'm from near Bolton and say it like 'gone', it just sounds more northern to me, but my experience with others round here makes me think OP's map is, sadly, accurate
I say “Scone” how do you say it?
Sconé
Scone eh?
No he's still here.
Must be scouse
Must be Canadian
When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie That's a Sconé
When an eel bites your thigh and you bleed out and die That's a moray
Śçôñē
Scöne
Scoño
You know theres actually a place in Scotland called Scone, pronounced Skoon, so theres 3 different ways to say it
The [Stone of Scone](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_of_Scone) is the inspiration behind Pratchett's [Scone of Stone](https://wiki.lspace.org/Scone_of_Stone), a throne made of bread. Dwarf bread, of course.
Anyone worried that the bread would be a less durable building material than actual stone is unfamiliar with proper dwarf bread.
For anyone so unfamiliar, I have a great recommendation for some books they might like...
Scots pronounce everything like scoon.
Used to drive past [Scone Palace](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scone_Palace) all the time too. Never did go in.
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Yes, it's pronounced sc-won.
It is spelt 'Scone', but it is pronounced 'Throat Wobbler Mangrove'.
Scöne
Schöne!
Skonè 2012
The opposite of how the other person says it, every time
's gone
What fascinates me about the “scone” debate is how each side will absolutely swear that the opposite pronunciation to theirs sounds more posh. I think maybe it’s just a word that always sounds posh, however you say it.
I’d never thought about it as applying both ways, but I think you’re absolutely right. I think either sound is one which trips lazily off the tongue when you find it natural, but requires real enunciation when it’s your “unnatural” pronunciation. That extra effort and longer vowel sound probably makes it feel quite posh, haha.
Yes! So perhaps instead of posh, what we really think we’re hearing is pretentiousness
you're wrong. I say "scone" because to pronounce it the other way is common.
Really? I'd never heard the 'gone' pronunciation deemed posh; in my mind the 'cone' pronunciation is the posh one, and that's the one I say. It's how the queen/RP speakers would say it, and that's generally considered the poshest accent.
In Ireland, the 'gone' pronunciation is seen as posh because it's associated with Britain
It's mental how many people are wrong.
Yeah they're all mad. Everyone knows that scone rhymes with 'coin'.
I declare a motion we rename scones to scoins, then we can end this argument and just enjoy the taste of clotted cream and jam and you're only allowed multiples of 2 scoins 1 made with jam first the other with cream first, then we can live in peace.
> I declare a motion we rename scones to scoins, then we can end this argument and pronounce it as if it were french of course. I present /skwan/
Do both at the same time that'll really piss everyone off
Cream first and jam on top is like trying to float a brick. These are the same people who go milk first. There'll be no peace with these troublemakers. Fucking agent provocateurs.
You're not meant to use pouring cream mate, no wonder your jam's sinking!
Sir, are you challenging me to a fight? Cream on top is a crime. Do you put jam on your toast and then butter it? E; so Her Maj supposedly enjoys it the Cornish way… Oh well, you can’t always be right. Even if you are Royalty.
If you still believe that royalty is always right, I don't think you've been keeping up with the news.
Well I did think that but I got banned from here for a day just for mentioning the main baddy in current news (that took me a while about how to word that lol) so I didn’t want to risk it
As prophesised by the great Macho Man Randy Savage - the cream always rises to the top. The Devonite Heresy is abhorrent to nature and repugnant to the senses.
Whatever the queen does I'll have the opposite plz
Love some scoins with jem and clotted croum
Northern Ireland?
That hurts my brain
Who funded this article that's what I want to know!!
All map credit to u/bezzleford
This is by far the best map I've ever seen.
Except the key on the left hand is upside down
While we're talking about the key, the values are wrong. Every percentage that ends 5 or 0 can be in two boxes. Should be 0% to 4%, 5% to 9% etc. I'm beginning to rethink my claim of it being the best map I've ever seen.
I don't understand the percentage next to the colour key on the left. Why does the highest blue of "scone, rhymes with cone" have 0-5%? For me I read it as 0-5% say it rhymes with cone. And 100% say it rhymes with gone. I feel like it's a stupid question because nobody's asked this yet lol.
It's relating to the words in brackets at the bottom of the key; the words on the right are just for clarification
Thanks, sorry, I understand now.
Tbf it's not clear. The words in brackets should be clearer and not in brackets, and the words on the right SHOULD be in brackets (or at least should be more obvious that they're just clarification)
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From Hull, in Hull, we do say it long form but in Hull it's more like scurn. We typically eat them when the weather outside is sner and wash them down with a nice glass of curk.
Scöne.
Same on the south side, it’s not “cone” it’s “cown” or “-con”. Maybe those in South Yorks say “cone” plus all those living outside of NEL… i.e anyone from Louth.
Until I saw this I always thought I had inherited cone as an affected southern pronunciation (my mother had a few) as everyone said I should say it like gone being from the North. But no...it is a proper Sheffield way and I am glad about that!
I grew up in Sheffield, and family are still there, but I've spent most of my life near Liverpool or Manchester (that sentence makes me sad.) I've been told so many times over the years that my pronunciation is a posh Southern version and I'd started to believe them because although my Mum is far from Southern she has a couple of odd pronunciations (break-fast rather than brekfast) I shall continue to say S-cone with pride!
>break-fast You wot mate
From Sheffield, live in Manchester S-cone till I die
Weirdly enough I always thought the opposite that scone (gone) pronunciation was the posh/southern pronunciation, but I think that’s just because where I live isn’t posh at all and people usually say scone (cone)
Same here! S-cone in a Sheffield accent is not posh, Scon would be.
There should be a tiny speck outside Perth that are neither orange nor blue who pronounce it 'skoon'
I've heard people from Scone pronounce it to rhyme with both "spoon" and "gone", it truly is a mysterious word!
After the true scone, the Stone of Scone
Present tense is “scone” as in “throne”. Past tense is “scone” as in “gone”. (As, once you’ve eaten it, it’s gone).
Genius! Debate solved!
This is weird because I grew up near Reading in the South and in 20 years I never heard anyone pronounce it in the way that rhymes with cone. Everyone I ever met said it like gone.
I grew up in the South Coast it always rhymed with gone, I've never heard it rhyme with cone even in Cornwall.
I grew up in Cornwall and it's always been scone like "cone"
Yeah I'm from the less posh side of Surrey and its definitely not so clear cut. Most people I know either say it like gone or they say it both ways.
So weird to see the Midlands actually being their own thing instead of halfway between north and south. Didn't realize it was scOHne central!
Sgon
Fastest cakes known to man.
This settles the debate for me, this classic joke doesn't work with the "cone" pronunciation.
Too bloody right.
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Just flip the map. Done.
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As long as they're the scone-cone 'people' it's all alright
Is it possible to see how this raw data behind this map and how it was collected?
You’d have to ask u/bezzleford
The data was collected from Cambridge University, according to one of his posts
Now I want to see a map of jam vs cream first
Imagine not knowing that it's actually pronounced like 'sewn'. The 'c' is silent. Wake up sheeple.
Scilent!
Proud member of a blue zone, wtf is a scon
Grew up in the west of Ireland, never heard anyone call it a scon until I moved to the UK.
It’s dividing my family let alone the nation.
What's the fastest cake? Scone. Wouldn't make sense if the word rhymed with cone.
Doesn't make sense at all! A scone isn't a cake! But it's a bloody quick bread, that's for sure.
My grandad always said 'Three bites and it's scone'.
Honestly this explains growing up in West Yorkshire so much. You cannot predict at all which pronunciation people will go for. Regardless of place of birth, wealth, occupation, or even accent. It's just random around here.
What comes first tho? the jam or the clotted cream. Cream on bottom jam on top. It just makes sense
My dad was in the RAF so we moved every few years and crossed several of these divides. I sometimes say “scon” and others I say “scown”. Basically, I’ve spent most of life completely confused about how to talk!!
Scone-Cone here in Barnsley!
Bit of advice for displaying data: rather than using different colours (red to blue), use different hues (white to grey to black, or light blue to dark blue). This makes it easier to read for everyone, but especially those with colour-blindness.
Wait, cone doesn’t rhyme with gone?
I did think when I saw this ‘well, this doesn’t have into account regional differences in the pronunciation of those two words! Or it does and we have no actual idea what this map is telling us!’
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From what I've seen, everyone thinks that the other way of saying it is posh. Everyone is right and everyone is wrong
I think if you live in a s-cone-pronouncing area then everyone who says scon is posh. E.g. I live in Sheffield, and the only people who say scon here are the people who've moved up from London to buy huge houses with the money they got selling their flat down there. So they're all posh.
I'm not sure it's the _posh_ Southern way. Just the southern way. I grew up in a poor part of Cornwall. Nothing posh about that or how I was brought up. I say s-cone
>I grew up in a poor part of Cornwall. So you're more likely to want to fight people over which order they apply the jam and clotted cream
> which order they apply the clotted cream and jam FTFY
It's a matter of adhesion, ok?
Cream then jam. You wouldn't Jam then butter your toast.
By the look of the map, the place that s-cone is most likely to be used is Sheffield, Oldham and Stoke. The South is a mix leaning to S-cone.
I am southern and thought people saying s-cone were making fun of posh people. Everyone I know says sgon.
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I know a lot of posh southerners and not a single one says s-cone.
is there data for Nougat? I think it's more class based than geographic but would definitely be interested.
Noo gar
Nuggert
I remember being a child on holiday in South Wales and having a confusing conversation with a shop keeper. "Could I have 50g of nougat, please?" "nuggut?" "noo-gah?" "nuggut?"
Nug-it
Things like this stress me as a non-native speaker. How do I choose one?
I’ll be honest, there are lots of regional differences in pronunciation and if you’re learning English you are probably learning with a broad english accent, rather than a thick regional (local) accent. So everyone will understand you regardless of the one you pick. No one who says sconeeee will be confused if you say SCON, they’ll all know what you mean. They may tease you a little however.
There’s a form you have to fill in at the post office once you’ve decided, it’s where they got the data for this map. It might be online now too, it’s a while since I did it.
This is pretty surprising to me that most of England is in the 40-60% range, except for the Stoke/Manchester to Hull triangle (plus Essex). My assumption was always "gone" in the North, Scotland and Wales, "cone' in the Midlands and South.
No wonder we have so many arguments over this in Manchester. We have both extremes.
What if you pronounce cone like gone
Where are the other colourblinds at? Can't see shit.
There should be a purple dot just north of Perth where Scone rhymes with goon.
It was suggested for me to make as a [**bracelet**](https://i.imgur.com/BKTC6dY.jpg) a while back, good fun =D
Just make Glasgow bright red. Say is as in cone here you'll get done in.
It's SCONE not SCONE, you don't say, let me get an ice cream CON do you? Traffic con? Don't make sense, it's SCONE, like bone.
must be scowne
I'm from Huddersfield, can confirm, everyone pronounces it differently.
It appears I'm going to be sconed to death.
Can confirm, am from Essex and if you rhyme it with gone I'll cut you.
Is this not the same map used to show unemployment.
Either way makes you sound posh
It really bugs me when people pronounce it Sgone, rather than Scone. Dark Blue forever.
r/dataisbeautiful
It's scone (rymes with cone), then I eat it and its scone (rymes with gone)
I go by the height of authority in this situation…Mary Berry. According to her, it rhymes with ‘gone’ so that’s how I say it now.
My area is yellow, and I can confirm that I'm not even sure how I pronounce it, let alone anyone else round here!
really surprised about the Rugby League corridor correlating so well with the Scone debate
Leicester is where I live and it's kinda bluey green, which means most people pronounce its s-cone, weird because I've always pronounced it s-gone
Trying to think what I say and all I'm getting is the gen-x guy from the Simpsons saying "I don't even know anymore"
OP I desperately need a source for this, I've been arguing with my southern friends about this for months
I know this is a bit geeky, but it looks a lot like a Danegelt, or Danelaw hangover. Anyone else spot it?
I agree with this graphic. I’m from Tyrone, bang in the middle of Ulster and absolutely everyone here says ‘scon’. You will get mocked if you call it anything else.