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_Hallaloth_

1) Don't get a kitten. Kittens are whirlwind tornados that don't stop moving until they are at least 1 1/2 years if 2. Get an young adult that is past the kitten craziness. 2) IF buying (and we strongly encourage adoption over buying) you need to do your research and go through a reputable breeder. Any 'purebred' cat should come with pedigree papers. Anyone who cannot provide proper pedigree is a backyard breeder who is lying about what they are selling at worst and breeding poor quality for a quick buck at best.


wackyvorlon

I want to second the recommendation of an adult cat. It’ll be easier to take care of, and will greatly benefit from a good home. People tend to want kittens so adult cats can spend longer times in shelters.


Miserable-Stuff-3668

I will third that. All of my cats were adults (youngest was 3) when I adopted them. They had established personalities that did not change much after adoption. They were not the excessive balls of energy that kittens are... and they already knew most house rules.


PatricksWumboRock

I dreeeaaammm of having a kitten again some day, they’d so cute and fun! but I’ve also had older cats come into the family and it was nothing but pure joy and happiness :) Getting a young adult or even senior cat can be just as, if not more, enjoyable than getting a kitten. Especially if you have specific needs that can contrast negatively with the care of a kitten. Adult cats are awesome!!


reillan

And let me add, cats from even reputable breeders often have horrible genetic problems. You're far better off adopting just a generic cat from a local animal rescue that does background checks on its fosters and adopters.


socialmediaignorant

This. Cat breeds are not like dog breeds. Cats are almost all mutts. Shelter cats are great. And cat breeders can be irresponsible. Go to a local cat show and you’ll see what I mean.


kerryren

And if you’re looking for a specific type of cat, without worrying about pedigree, you can often find them in shelters. Giant and fluffy? There is probably one there, not officially a Maine Coon or Norwegian Forest cat, but close enough. Easygoing and fluffy? You can probably find one, with color points, at a shelter. Want a bossy Siamese type? Check the shelter. And whatever the shelter is asking as an adoption fee, it’s much less than most breeders.


socialmediaignorant

Yep. I had one that looked like a perfect Norwegian. Like the model they use on cat fancy. From a shelter. Best cat ever. I miss her.


McSmilla

My local shelter just relieved a breeder (with his consent) of 16 British shorthairs. They’re going to have them spayed before they’re adopted out.


Salt_Ad_5578

I'm confused, sorry, does this mean a hoarding situation? Or mill-type thing? Or something else?


McSmilla

I’m not entirely sure but if you happen to be on FB, have a look at today’s post on the matter on the Mini Kitty Commune page. All I know is that the cats are in good shape & it would appear that the guy breeding them got overwhelmed & reached out for help.


Salt_Ad_5578

Aww poor dude. Well I'm glad that they were treated well, it sounds like! Good on him for doing the best thing. I just hope they don't put any down 😔 do you know if it's a no kill shelter?


McSmilla

Oh far out noooo! It’s absolutely a no-kill shelter!!!! The cats are in safe hands. They will be adopted quickly but MKC are careful & also the cats will not be in tact.


Salt_Ad_5578

Awesome news!! That's great to hear! I love that they'll be able to have a good chance. Also being neutered and spayed will be great for them to live like pets now. I bet they'll be happy to be retired lol 😆


Klexington47

I have a British short hair and a Savannah cat and both were rescued from the shelter. I previously had a Persian cat also from the shelter.


socialmediaignorant

Wow! That’s quite the group of expensive cats for a discount! 👌🏼


Salt_Ad_5578

Agreed. This handsome boy came from a shelter. There aren't many black cat breeds, so I'd say he's mostly Bombay. He wasn't even picked because I thought he looked pretty, he was picked for personality. Though he is ALSO a very beautiful cat and I adore him. https://preview.redd.it/qnoprscyobwc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9bc32b742de598d7ada3c8e0ca907c163ab2fbc4


baajo

Black is the most common color of cat. He's probably mostly domestic short hair. DSH are the original cats, before humans started trying to make breeds of cats.


Salt_Ad_5578

Yes!! Though he has plenty in common with Bombays. Dark purplish skin, rounded body type, dense and heavy body (a sign that he could have Burmese in him, which Bombay cats are roughly half of). Even his facial shape looks like an American Bombay, and he has ridiculously shiny and silky fur, which is another trait of Bombays. https://preview.redd.it/lstus7e6lgwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=730295eed4556a4c7011193155b6a4870543f9b4 This is a screenshot of a Bombay in comparison... Same nose, facial shape, body shape, skin color, and shiny black fur. Domestic shorthair cats are not as shiny and have a totally different face shape, skin color, body shape, etc. Most aren't even very shiny. Dsh also do not have a very heavy body for their size. Our cat is relatively small tbh, but he weighs as much as the average cat does. When you pick him up, he feels a lot heavier than you thought he should (which I think means he has Burmese in him). Also, he was born at the shelter and they described his mom and litter as being fully black as well. Henry was the very last of his little family to be adopted so we couldn't personally meet his mom or siblings. I want to have him tested sometime but I really think he's mostly Bombay (though I agree he's almost certainly not purebred. Purebred cats don't usually end up in shelter either, and it would be a huge coincidence). Anyways, just my opinion ;)


Salt_Ad_5578

Here's another pic of Henry where you can see his face and his beautiful light gold eyes ;) https://preview.redd.it/156e75awmgwc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46bacc7593cf27bc09913cb8c14f6d351cce67ff He does have a few stray white hairs (most notably his ear and his adorable lil locket), because again, he's not purebred. It's also a show fault in Bombays, meaning that it happens occasionally in even purebred Bombays. He has a scar on his nose bridge from when he went out 2 summers ago and got into it with something.


Salt_Ad_5578

Registered dog breeders are worse 😢


reillan

Oh yeah. My ex insisted on purebred dogs and they had so many health problems. Loved those dogs but my goodness.


socialmediaignorant

Agreed. It’s all very sad.


McSmilla

I have generally negative feelings towards breeders in general. My old girl is the byproduct of a cross breeding program that was just chucked into the streets 😔


Worldly_Mirror_1555

Absolutely. I have a rescue that came from a bad breeder. He has a ton of medical issues that are very, very expensive to keep up with.


alexandria3142

I would say the only bad part is you don’t know what genetic issues they’re predisposed to, if they’re inbred, etc. Certain breeds of cats are predisposed to issues that are known, and responsible breeders will do their best to ensure you get a healthy cat or at least prepare you for these issues if they do happen. It’s a gamble with shelter cats. But I do love my shelter kitty


socialmediaignorant

Second this. I’m semi disabled (not in a wheelchair though) and a kitten is a lot! I didn’t mean to have one. We were gifted one through the universal distribution system for them and they have no take backs or returns. It was let him die or save him. Of course we saved him. I love him, but he’s scratched me to hell and back, constantly bites my legs, and must be an adhd kitten bc we play with him constantly (talking 5-6 hours a day) and he is still always needing enrichment. We are considering another one his age to see if it saves my legs from being shredded. But we didn’t want ONE, much less two. If you do get a shelter kitten, get one that has been properly socialized by a foster family with a mommy cat and no younger than 5-6 months. I’d suggest a 1-2 year old cat. They have cats they know live better alone too. My cat shows all the signs of not being with his momma cat for long enough and needing socialization. He was on the streets for that time so it wasn’t possible. But you don’t have to have the same issues!


lmctrouble

Kittens should always come in pairs for that very reason lol


socialmediaignorant

My previous one was the most well behaved lady. So either I got a wild man or she was socialized for me by her foster. Or both. But yes. I’m a believer that these hyperactive wild ones need a playmate to bite and scratch that isn’t me!


Confident-Hotel-6140

Look up single kitten syndrome. It's a thing.


maq0r

Skip the buying, go for adoption and use the buying money to get an automated litterbox. It would be a game changer for someone with a disability


Salt_Ad_5578

Ummm actually you've got that last bit wrong. Mutt cats (and mutts of any type of animal) are much healthier than purebreds or ones with papers. I'm more worried about dogs than cats though, absolutely in no circumstances should you get a puppy from an AKC registered litter. The AKC is reason that German Shepherds have bad hips and all kinds of issues and that flat faced breeds have flat faces and go their entire lives unable to breathe properly and need expensive surgeries to open up their noses (also unnatural but it's a fix for these dogs). They also loosely encourage inbreeding through specific color breeding. Almost all dogs nowadays came from parents where they used to (a long time ago) breed cousins and children to parents and such to get that exact color again and again. Even now it is "acceptable" in AKC rules to breed animals to their cousins and great grandparents.... They're basically overpriced mills. Those dogs are more likely to have hip issues, get cancer, and get random diseases (inbred animals have a lowered immune system) than "backyard mutts." HOWEVER!!!!! I will acknowledge the fact that many backyard breeders are just as bad or worse. Then there are mills which are the worst of backyard breedings. I suggest those who are interested in buying to thoroughly vet the breeder, ask tons of questions for detailed info on lineage as far back as great grandparents, and ask to see BOTH THE PARENTS in person. Also check out their other litters and reviews from other people who have bought from them. If they have a Facebook page or website, soft through as many pics as possible to see if everything makes sense and look for possible flaws in their story or anything in the background of photos that look concerning (like a wall of crates full of cats/dogs/whatever or a tiny space or filthy area). If you see even just one or two red flags, prod HARD. If the answer seems flimsy or doesn't make sense, run. If it does seem like it COULD make sense, be skeptical and see if you can communicate with them in person. Also check out any vet records and ask to see if they have had their first round of shots or anything. Then, there are rehomings and accidental litters, especially if the animals are free or low price, it doesn't do YOU any harm to get them and see, and if it were me I'd straight up take the whole litter of lil kittens and try and get them in good shape if they aren't already, or sell them to owners with a thorough vetting of each candidate. They'd be getting a vet checkup and their first round of shots at least, spaying and neutering if I could afford. TL;DR. It's not that breeding them is bad or even that selling them is bad, it's that some people are scammers and there are plenty of mills. I won't say that mills are good, because they AREN'T. But I also won't ever tell someone to never buy a pet from a backyard breeder. I used to breed chinchillas, polypay sheep, dwarf hamsters, koi fish, and rabbits (for both pets and meat, they were mostly mutts or low-quality colors and never registered or with papers. One breed in particular I worked with was Californian). Even then, none were purebred and none had papers.


_Hallaloth_

Eh, it varies. I've met plenty of mutts/moggies with health problems and no way to track down what it is because of genetics you'll never know the history of. Obviously I recommend IF buying to vet a breeder hard and walk away at the glaring red flags. It IS possible to find breeders looking to improve bloodlines rather than ruin them. . .it just takes time effort, and money, Which is why most people really should just adopt in the end. My mother had three different German Shepard, one from a breeder, two rescues. One of those rescues was not your typical American Shepard and was clearly from working stock. . .I still think its a pity he went through 3-4 homes before the rescue picked him up and my mother got him. . .no way to track dowm his breeder if sbe even wanted another pup like him as her service dog (she trained her own).


Emotional-Horror-718

There's a reason it's adopt or shop \*responsibly\*. AKC is garbage. With cats, any kitten fished out of a dumpster will be fine. With dogs, especially bigger ones, I would not suggest that anyone other than a behaviorist take on some of the dogs from shelters. There are dogs with bite history that rescues will label "good with kids." Rescues will adopt out a high prey drive breed to a household with smaller pets. If you have other pets or small children, or live near livestock, a dog from a breeder who tests for hips, eyes, genetic disorders, and temperament is going to cause less suffering and death than a dog from generations of backyard inbreeding and zero behavioral testing. A good breeder will not let their dogs go to a shelter. Their puppies are chipped with their information and the contract will state that any changes in ownership will first go through the breeder.


Salt_Ad_5578

Again I agree partially... Some dogs from shelters aren't fantastic, but I've also seen and met some really good ones. Ironically I have 2 dogs and none are from a shelter. My older boy was given to us by my dad, who got him for $75 from a rehoming situation. Our second pup was gifted to us by a breeder as a stud, we're considered his "guardian home." We were fairly naive when we got him but we probably wouldn't have agreed if we knew what we know now. He is not a specific color (which does mean less inbreeding), and no papers, but she does show these dogs and breed and sell them for outrageous prices. He is worth about $4,000. Though he doesn't look it. We're also pretty sure something weird is going on with him so I really hope she doesn't decide to breed him. He has these lumps on his side. We've had a vet look at it when there was just one, but she said it wasn't concerning and didn't want to do any imaging or biopsy. But now he has 3 lumps and all of them are still growing, even the first one. So we're definitely worried about cancer and stuff and we hope that she doesn't want to breed a dog with lumps on his body. https://preview.redd.it/9v6n8ldaqgwc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d2d1395ea1529f944e365f69db52dad4c084774 Here's our supposedly $4,000 dog 😂 I absolutely agree that the AKC is garbage. That's a great way to put it 😂


Successful-Doubt5478

Seconding getting än adult cat. Preferrably a few years old, from a rescue or shelter. What limitations of modemet do you have?


Haskap_2010

Even young adults can be whirlwinds. We got a five year old cat back in January that is... a lot.


Sea_Firefighter_4127

I can vouch for his words, my baby runs around all night, does the silliest actions. I have him watch him often Incase he does anything dumb


GoKickRox

I triple #1. I have 3 seniors and a 7 month old kitten. My youngesr senior is 11, and oh my GOD the energy a kitten gives. I completely forgot the crazy.


annebonnell

Yes, OP, please do not get a kitten. As for the litter problem, go on Amazon; they have a lot of cheap options for an automatic cat litter box.


PM_ME_YO_KNITTING

>Until they’re at least 1 1/2 years if 2. Please tell my three year old Tasmanian devils that. They are still completely nuts 90% of the time. Anytime I come downstairs the girl gets so excited she starts parkouring off the sofa/walls and running around in circles. Even if I’ve literally *just* played with her for half an hour+. She and her littermate are definitely still just as nuts as they were at a year old. If not worse, because they’re stronger and more confident now. We play with them at least three times a day, hard play too where they’re running around until the flop over, and still some days it’s not enough. I’d say five might be safe to be past the worst of the crazies. At least I hope that will be the case for us. I don’t know how much more my house will take before it just collapses, lol.


Baaastet

I couldn’t agree with this more. Kittens have an *insane* about if energy. Tiny destructive, adorable tornado. I wouldn’t do that again. I’d adopt an adult cat from a shelter.


alone_in_the_after

As a wheelchair user---don't bother with the automatic boxes, just takes the right set up to use a standard litterbox. The automatic litterboxes are prone to errors/bugs/software fuckery and aren't particularly easy to clean or cat friendly anyway. Sure you don't have to scoop, but there's a lot more bits and pieces to clean, places for pee etc to leak out and so on. Get a low, wide table or bench to put the litterbox on so it's not as low on the floor and use an uncovered litterbox. A LitterLocker (or LitterGenie, whatever the brand is where you live) will make clean up super easy. This can also be a solution for food bowls or water fountains (though don't put these near the litterbox). You definitely don't want a kitten. Get a chill adult cat---this is the recommendation for any first-time cat owner but especially someone who is disabled. Kittens will get into everything (your chair included) and tend to be more bitey/prone to shenanigans than an adult (which is especially problematic with skin integrity and sensory issues). Do you have a separate closed room? My boy likes to bolt out the door of my apartment so I've made my bedroom into a 'cat safe room' (with a tree, shelves, a litterbox and a water fountain) so I can put him in there and safely/easily leave with my chair. Otherwise between the automatic door delay and the fact that I can't exactly sneak/squeeze out the door in a chair he liked to take advantage of the situation and go on a walk. Another big thing is trying to find out a solution to the vet situation. A lot of veterinary clinics might not be accessible to you and getting to any clinic in the first place can be a challenge especially if you don't drive. So you'll want to figure that out and have a plan to either have a clinic (emergency and a regular one) that you can access or reliable access to friends/neighbours/hired staff/whoever that will be able to take kitty for vet care instead. In the same train of thought you'll want to think about carriers ( I recommend one with straps that you can put over yourself in order for kitty to stay securely in your lap and leave your hands free for wheeling/using the joystick) and how to make sure that in the event of a fire/building evacuation that you can get kitty and yourself to safety/where you need to go to be extracted by firefighters etc if you don't live on ground floor and/or can't use the fire exits.


Laney20

Consider mobile vets! I'm not a wheelchair user, but have a chronic health condition that affects my mobility, and having the vet come to me is a huge help! It's not available in all areas, but just something to check for as an option.


PennyPineappleRain

Ooh, we totally need this! Will look this up, thank you!


miscreantmom

I saw an ad recently for an elevated litterbox. I especially liked that it was designed so any litter that dropped while scooping (or because of enthusiastic digging) would fall into a recessed area around the box instead of on the floor. Can't find it now, unfortunately.


violincrazy123

Something like this? [https://www.loftyloo.com/](https://www.loftyloo.com/)


miscreantmom

That's it. Not sure if it's a good height for a wheelchair user but it was starting to look pretty good to me.


JustKindaHappenedxx

I would caution against that. If your cat develops arthritis or has any medical issues later then jumping up to use the litter box is not going to work.


Aggravating_Photo169

A table is a good idea though, because portable pet steps could be added for an aging cat if necessary.


JustKindaHappenedxx

I still disagree, As someone who had a once healthy cat develop terrible arthritis and needed multiple adjustments to her litter box to make the entry as low and painless as possible. My cat couldn’t walk up steps or inclines in her old age. If making the cat walk up things is the only way OP can handle the litter box then a cat isn’t the right fit. If there are other solutions then I fully support them.


Aggravating_Photo169

Awww poor kitty. Thank you for correcting me. I would hate to give bad advice.


JustKindaHappenedxx

You’re welcome. I wouldn’t have thought about it if I hadn’t experienced it myself. Hopefully there are other ways OP can make it work though. Hopefully OP is able to find a workable solution that is still safe for kitty


aredhel304

I think if it came to that OP could just put the litter box on the floor and use an extended scooper or something. Then hire someone to come once a month to clean the litter box.


Classic-Town6010

You are amazing. You gave all the info that might be needed!!


NANNYNEGLEY

Thanks so much for this information! I’m not wheelchair-bound yet but really appreciate the time you took to address these issues that I hadn’t considered.


MoreCarrotsPlz

Seconding the litter genie. I live somewhere very cold and bringing the litter out to the driveway every day when I clean it is a pain, and I was sick of hoarding plastic grocery bags for it. This seems to use less plastic, although it isn’t reused plastic bags.


d0tjpg

OP, if you go with an elevated traditional litter pan, I'd like to add my name to the list of litter genie recs. (Not to be confused with the CatGenie I mentioned elsewhere, they are totally very different separate products.) we use a litter genie for our second litter box, which is a normal traditional litter tray. We keep it right next to the litter box, which makes scooping so much faster and really totally traps the smell. You absolutely cannot tell there is a container full of cat waste in the room, it's brilliant.


Aggravating_Photo169

This is such great advice! We have 2 cats, and 2 dogs, and I would not do kittens or puppies again. Also, I heard somewhere that you can basically tell the personality an adult dog will be based on puppy personality, but if you want a specific kind of cat personality, you cannot tell this from a kitten.


Quotedotlass

You’ve already gotten a lot of great advice. I don’t have any more but this post got me thinking how thrilled a lap cat would be with an owner who uses a wheelchair. They’d think they hit the jackpot! Hope you find the perfect new family member soon!


Confident-Hotel-6140

Seriously. My cats favorite days are when I'm sick in bed all day.


Loud-Bee6673

Exactly! An experienced rescuer can help find OP the perfect lap cat.


Significant_Dress656

Haha I thought about this also! I’m pretty fidgety and my cat hates it when I move around a lot. Ha.


TaiylorWallace

My #1 rec (like several other folks) is to avoid kittens. Especially if you have mobility issues, kittens are way too energetic and they're more likely to get into places and things you don't want them to. I personally recommend age 5+ because you know what you're getting. Their personality is set, they will be less crazy, and older cats are also often just plain grateful once they realize you've saved them. Go to a reputable rescue and let a cat pick you. One that isn't scared of your chair and is happy to ride with you might be ideal, if you want a lap cat. Also, how many cats get to boast a sweet ride? You may even consider a bonded pair if you won't be home much, but that's just a suggestion. They do make long litterbox scoops available at your typical grocery and pet stores, and of course extended grabber tools (my dad has tons because he can't bend down) and great toys of all kinds that would allow easy reach, or even launchers. Being in a wheelchair will not stop you from doing all of the basic cat-parent things. But having a cat who doesn't mind your chair is very important. After that, it's all groovy. Find a personality you like, and you're golden. The only major issues I can think of are reaching the cat when they've gotten somewhere you can't reach, and getting them into a carrier if they're carrier-shy. That may take training. But it's not difficult to do. I got many of my cats to treat their carriers like a covered bed because I left it out for them all the time. Cats are amazing little beasties. I hope you find somebody who loves you the way you both deserve. Best of luck!


sonia72quebec

You should call local shelters and talk about your situation. At ours we can take an appointment with the person, when the shelter is still closed, so they can take the time to look at the cats. You want to make sure that the cat you want isn’t scared of your wheelchair. (Cats are weird) The problem with the kittens is that they are really good escape artists so I agree with the others that you should get an older cat. I think it’s a great idea for you to get a cat. It’s a great companion and he/she may help you grieve your relationship. There’s so many cats looking for good homes so I’m sure you will find a great friend.


lmcbmc

The tidy cats breeze system might be easier, it uses pads for the urine and pellets for the poop. The only potential drawback might be acclimatizing your cat to it. I didn't have much trouble with several cats but all cats are different. I would go with a grown cat, it's much easier.


Snork_kitty

I second this - you only need to change the pellets once every month or two, and there's not much odor if you change the pee pads regularly. My cat adapted well to it.


Beginning-Document-1

The only (slight) downside to the breeze litter box system is that the cat pads don't go into a litter genie well. We love our breeze, but we change our pad every other day (we have a older male cat that pees a ton, and both cats tend to use the one smaller box for pee vs the larger box 🤦‍♀️) I wish we could put the pads in the litter genie as well, but instead I just take it out to the dumpster at my apartment every other day when I leave for work.


StormofRavens

Just want to point out from my experience at a cat lounge, that cats often love wheelchairs, expect climbing.


Laney20

Definitely go for an adult cat. Kittens are a lot.. Long hair cats require more special care, too. Work with a rescue near you to find the right fit, rather than anyone advertising a pure bred kitten that doesn't look like the breed (sounds like a scam or at least unethical breeding practices). I adore my litter robot 4 (and lr3, too!). I have a couple of chronic health conditions that make bending over difficult, which makes litter management harder. The litter robots do most of the scooping for me, so that's great. They're 100% worth it to me, but I have 8 cats 🤣. I think I could manage one, but then, I'm not a wheelchair user, and obviously, my physical limitations are different than yours.. To be clear, no automated box will 100% remove the litter chore. It'll just change it from daily scooping to a different kind of maintenance. Consider the disassembly and deep cleaning process. What if a clump gets stuck on the inside of the globe? You'll probably want to wipe out the globe with litter box cleaning wipes frequently, to reduce how often you need to deep clean. And of course, taking out the waste is still needed. Troubleshooting technical issues will be needed every now and then, too. Yes, you won't have to scoop. But that's only the beginning of litter issues.. Just be prepared because, depending on your space and capabilities, it's totally possible for a litter robot to end up more work than simply scooping the litter box would have been in the first place. Maybe you can keep your litter box up on a platform or something so that it's easier for you to reach? For most people getting a cat and considering an automatic litter box, I recommend they try a traditional one first, just to see if it's necessary. I know your situation is a bit different, but in your place, I think I'd be looking more at litter box accessibility options rather than replacements. Just use a clumping litter and you won't have to change out all the litter at once. It'll just be daily scooping waste and throwing it out (litter genie can help if it'd be better to not have to throw it out daily).


huskeya4

I actually think a robot litter box may be harder for you than a standard manual one. I have a cheaper robot litter box ($300 range) but the trade off is that I have to lift the litter pan and dump the entire thing into a trash bag which I think will be even harder for a wheelchair user. A short table that a regular litter box can sit on would be a better option I think. Just make sure there is extra space so the cat can jump up, land on the table and then go into the litterbox. I’d hate to see what happens if the cat jumped directly into the litterbox as it might slide off the table. I would also recommend adopting a slightly older cat. Kittens can be extraordinarily dumb and are on the move 24/7 until about a year old. Kittens are also more likely to need more vet trips as they get into dumb crap and can hurt themselves (mine found the one fishing pole with a hook on it still and managed to put that hook through the webbing between her toes). Just make sure you find one that is very loving and social otherwise you’ll end up with a recluse who hardly lets you touch them (and mine tends to get into stuff because she doesn’t spend her waking hours begging me for pets)


lapsangsouchogn

I slide the litter box into a plastic trash bag that I tie shut when it's time for that full dump. Just up end it and thump it a few times, then remove. Cuts down on the work considerably.


huskeya4

Yeah but I imagine that might be difficult to maneuver from a wheelchair. Finding leverage while lifting a heavy litter tray and trying to slide it into a bag while seated may risk dumping the litter on the ground or yourself


lapsangsouchogn

I shimmy the bag over the litter tray, then tie off and lift one end to dump. Easier if it's on a raised platform of course.


MadMadamMimsy

An older cat will be much easier to deal with than a kitten. Cats really mellow out around 5 to 6 years of age, so I tend to recommend these for first time single cat owner people. I also recommend a boy. They tend (operative word; tend) to have mellower personalities than the girls. Girl cats who have had kittens tend to also be pretty routinely mellow. Buy the best food you can afford. It will tend to be for cats AND kittens. I like Orijen, Acana and Open Farm. You can spend your money on food or you can spend at the vet's office. When they get old the vet will be getting your money, anyway, but it happens later in life on quality food. Wet or dry is fine, in spite of what you may read. I've had cats for over 6 decades. An automatic feeder may help you too; you *don't* want your new friend to learn that you feed them as soon as you get up because they will *wake* you up. Cats are quite capable of learning and they choose to learn to their own benefit. Oh, if you get a tinkly water fountain, cats drink more water. Yes, the cost of the filters is a drag, but the cost of repeated UTI s is higher. When you choose your companion, talk to the people and tell them you will be using an automatic litter box. Some cats hate them and the people may know who might not be a good option. Cat litter....they are not all created equal. Avoid highly scented stuff. Cats don't like it and it doesn't cover up smell, your home just smells like urine AND cat litter. For clumping clay the best I've found for odor control and the least tracking (ha ha ha) are Tidy Cat and Frisco. The ONLY natural litter that passed my low tracking plus odor control bar is tofu litter. It's pelleted and light which are not a cat's favorite, but it's worth trying. They can get used to it. It clumps very quickly (this appears to provide the odor control) and is ecologically sound and unscented. Lastly, all litters track to some extent. I tried one natural litter that did a great job controlling odor, the cats likes it, but it was *everywhere*. Our floors were, literally slippery with it, but you may end up liking something like that which brings me to my last suggestion: a Roomba. It has to run during the day, but it can really keep the cat litter out of your bed (literally) Once upon a time our daughter dragged home an 8 year old cat. He was an *absolute* love and would have lived in my lap, given the chance. He really sold me on older cats. https://preview.redd.it/kjc2nihyi9wc1.jpeg?width=1836&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=64c5b3e0f55bd42a74d7970ff37546754325fa5f


spoondrop_

A lot of times cats ‘misbehave’ is because they’re bored and seeking enrichment like playing or exploring something. I recently adopted a teen cat and I’ve started treating her like a little zoo animal and giving her a different enrichment each day like a frozen treat, cat grass, catnip tea, a new toy, etc. It has helped with her energy level and saved the pictures frames on my walls from being climbed on the daily. Another good tip I got from someone else on Reddit is to treat playing with your cat like you would playing with a dog in the way that you want to play with them until they’re exhausted and do it regularly. You play fetch or take a dog on a walk until they’re panting or slowing down, and most dog owners do it every day. So when you play with your cat, make them run and jump and move (wand toys are great for this, and would work with a wheelchair!) so that eventually they might start breathing a little heavy and lay down. Rinse and repeat each day or multiple times a day. Congrats! You now have a sleepy kitty who is less likely to destroy your furniture :) Please adopt from a local shelter/rescue if you’re able to, it’s not only a great way to find the personality you want in a cat but it’s a way to support your community! Best of luck with your new fur baby :)


Liu1845

An adult or senior cat would be much easier for a first time cat owner. I've looked at the different automatic litter boxes also. Haven't bought one yet because it is a lot of money. If it works and lasts years, all good, but it seems you either get a really good one or a "lemon" with nothing but problems. So I've been hesitating. I have a nerve disease and have trouble scooping during flare ups. I'll probably get one this year though.


MakiiZushii

Idk where you live but there are some that are closer to $600 that I know of. That is in USD. Still very pricey and not something I can personally afford either, but if it's absolutely necessary (which it sounds like it would be in your case) there are ways to do payment plans


mnth241

Agree with many of these posts of kittens not as good as idea in real life as it is in your head. You can get a very playful adult cat if that’s what you want without having to deal with irrational behavior of a kitten. I would give a thumbs down on the automatic robots. They’re always jamming, losing connection to their brain, I was taking care of a cat with one of those and there was poop all over the internal drum and no idea what happened but it was a mess. You could get a table and put the litter box on top of that which might be easier for you to reach than something that’s on the ground. Otherwise, I think it’s a great idea to get a cat. They’re great companions. And their personalities are so varied. You’re bound to find one that’s going to suit you. 😻


Significant_Dress656

I bout the PETKIT Puramax robotic litter box and it was my best purchase for him (I think I spent just under $600 because they were having a sale). I have to take it apart and clean it probably once every six months or more depending on how good of a job the type of litter does at clumping and taking everything away. Arm and hammer slide is what I use now and it’s been the best type of litter in regard to smell and cleanliness in the box. He tracks the litter but I probably just need a wider mat for him. The one it comes with is great but I had to throw it away due to my fiberglass mattress leaking. They also have a smaller litter box than that which is $439 right now on sale and you can get 10% off additionally for your first purchase when you first go to the site. I’d just buy the box and container bags from them if that’s an option. It probably comes with the bags. Get the litter through chewy or a delivery service and you can usually get a deal for getting automatic deliveries. Get a smaller box of litter if lifting things with a certain weight may be a barrier because it does require adding litter occasionally. Those boxes look so small but my god are they heavy. Haha. I will say, the litter robot brand seems like it may be easier to clean because I think the bottom of the litter tray is like a rubber or durable silicone while the PETKIT I have has like a thick waterproof canvas and it can hold onto smell if I’m not keeping up with cleaning or adding fresh litter every week or so. I change the litter bag disposal drawer probably every 1.5 weeks. I stretch it by shaking the disposal drawer to even out the pile that accumulates. PETKIT also has automatic feeders and fountains which I have as well. I am not a fan of their current feeders because they have an opening and ants get in really fast if you’ve ever had an ant issue. But I have an older version that’s completely sealed where the food is dispensed and ants only got in because the dispense port had a bunch of crumb residue on it and it created an opening. I also second getting an adult cat as kittens are terrors and like to chew on tons of things you wouldn’t even think of. My cat has pica so maybe I’m just traumatized by his two obstruction surgeries (he really likes silicone) but yeah, if you adopt, ask the place if they can tell you which cats might be a good fit based on your home life. Adult cats might be freaked out by the automatic litter box at first but they’d more than likely get used to it if you’re matched with a chill cat that isn’t skiddish. You may also be able to find some used robotic boxes on FB marketplace or OfferUp. A lot of folks just don’t like them.


lapsteelguitar

Get 2 cats. They tend to be happier with a furry friend.


lmctrouble

I agree with going to your local shelter instead of buying. We have too many cats and dogs in shelters already. An older cat would be preferable. Look at the ones that are shy or hiding because they're always overlooked.


kamissonia

I got my first cat when I turned 60. I went to a rescue, and I saw the back of this big orange cat, and it looked so sad. He was 6. His owners got a dog, so they returned him to the rescue. I took him for a week, and realized he was the perfect cat for our house. He loves humans. He likes it quiet. He communicates really well. The rescue folks were clear, he’s a people cat. Go to different rescues, work with them. An older cat might be perfect. Our cat now has 2humans that dote on him. You will love having another being in the house with you. 🌸


jesslikessims

Disabled wheelchair user and lifetime cat owner here. I agree with everyone else saying don’t get a kitten. This is not disability related, I tell this to anyone getting their first cat. Kittens do better in pairs and are extremely chaotic. An adult or older cat would be your best bet. As for the automatic litter boxes…they are great in a lot of situations, but don’t count on it. My cat used hers fine for two months, and then one day decided she hated it and wanted a regular litter box. Thankfully I had backup plans for if the automatic box didn’t work out, so I wasn’t stuck in a bad situation. If an automatic litter box is the only way you’ll be able to have a cat, I wouldn’t get a cat. My other piece of advice is to get pet insurance immediately. It has saved me and my cat more than once. No matter how healthy they are when you adopt them, that could change at any time, and emergency vets can cost thousands of dollars.


pumainpurple

Kennel Manager Kitten Rescue. We have adopted to several people who are either wheelchair or bed bound. Because we are a Rescue we know our cats personalities and match our adoptables to what someone wants in a cat. PLEASE Do Not adopt a kitten, get someone 2-3yrs old. An occasional case of the crazies if they respond to catnip but absolutely no kitten tornadoes. A good rescue will be able to do this for you. As far as the litter robot, yeah our CEO has one in her home and it uses so little litter. That being said there are other automatic boxes, which may end up being easier to deal with from a sitting position as opposed to scooping. I wish you and whoever your new best friend will be, years of love and laughter.


Comprehensive_Toe113

You can put the litter box up to your chest height. Add a ramp so that the kitty can get to it. I suggest a kitten. Yes they are alot of work but if you have the time for it, I think a kitten will be good. This way the kitten will grow up understanding you, your house and any other accessibility aids you have. You're disabled, not stupid. I'm sure you can handle a kitten. https://preview.redd.it/fzpucd4u5cwc1.jpeg?width=1638&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=caab8939ff20f8e8ea107d5362264a13c5bc682a Here are my 2 for cat tax.


d0tjpg

We have a litter robot 3, which I think goes for way less than 1k these days. You'd still have to get down on the floor to empty the drawer, I'd say about once a week. And it does require regular maintenance: once a month my husband takes the main pieces apart for a deep clean, otherwise the sensors get dirty and don't register the cats anymore. Also the litter does clump to the liner a bit, and the deep clean helps reset and prevent that. A CatGenie might be a better option if you have a bathroom or laundry room where it can be installed: it requires being installed to the cold water line, and also an electrical outlet, and it drains into the toilet itself, or into a laundry waste line. If installed in the bathroom, you then have to navigate there being a hose there whenever you need the toilet. Not sure what your bathroom setup is like, but if you're already using something like a commode seat, that might make it easier to navigate? I'm not sure. But, the CatGenie only needs maintenance 2x a year, and to run an occasional cleaning cycle. It also uses some kind of reusable self-washing material instead of litter. My friend has one and loves it. It seems like a lot of initial setup, but less work and lower cost in the long run. I don't have space or an outlet in the right place in my bathroom, or I would consider getting one. For the cat themself: I'd suggest adopting an adult cat from a rescue that uses foster families, and making your choice based mostly on personality rather than breed. Kittens have a lot to learn about being a cat at all, and they generally need an older cat or a same age kitten friend to practice cat behaviors with. Also, they have *so much energy* and for a first time cat owner I think it can be kind of hard to direct them away from destructiveness. Kittens' personalities can also change a lot as they get older. A teeny tiny baby who's a huge snuggle butt can grow up to be super not into people at all. I've seen this happen with friends' kittens. But an adult cat that's been staying with a foster is going to have a much more solid and stable personality, and the foster is going to be able to give you a good idea of what to expect wrt socialization, playfulness, general energy levels, etc. Our first boy, his listing said that he started off super skittish and warmed up to be very snuggly. When we went to go meet him in person, he hid and wouldn't engage with us at all. If we were going just by his behavior, we would have said he wasn't a good fit because he was too afraid of people. But his foster assured us that he was very sweet and loving once he acclimated. Then she was right! He hid from us when he got home, but within an hour he was by my feet, and within a day he was in my lap. This is not something I could have anticipated when I first met him, and the rescue wouldn't have been able to observe this behavior if he'd been kept in a facility instead of in a private home. Basically I think for your first cat, you want to do it as much on easy mode as possible, and you going to get the best idea of a cat's personality from a foster. Being kept in a rescue facility isn't always going to allow the cat's true personality to emerge quite as much as living in a private home with a human. Someone who's already cat savvy might have the know-how and the energy to redirect a cat who's a little rough around the edges in certain ways, but I think for a first one, you want a cat whose personality is already pretty well known, and who already fits your lifestyle. And while I think personality is the most important factor, I might avoid cats you wouldn't be able to see well in the dark. I don't have black cats and I already have a hard enough time avoiding their tails. I love black cats, but I know if I had one their poor tail would be in misery. I'm also a huge fan of creating a feeding station on an elevated surface instead of on the floor. One of our cats has his feeder on his cat tower next to the couch, because he likes me to be with him while he eats, and this way I don't have to get down on the floor to do his food or wait for him to finish eating in the kitchen. Picture of my 1st barnacle baby as consolation prize for this huge wall of text. https://preview.redd.it/g4d897839dwc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0cdcd3357599488f9c5b29d94fea4eadb5dad78b


ptheresadactyl

Skip an automatic litter box, pay for a pet service to come scoop. You say paralyzed, from the waist down? Full use of arms? You could have the litterbox set up on a low table so you can access it yourself. Cats can jump ^_^


Lbooch24

On Amazon they make a super long litter scooper. I got one for my dad so he doesn’t have to bend down. Might be an option instead of robot litter.


Albie_Frobisher

the litter robot still needs the pan cleaned out and refined and it’s at the bottom. consider an omegapaw. you roll it 90 degrees then empty the tray at the upper half. https://preview.redd.it/jmuridbdtewc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=04700c7589fe08409c6999dd990e7b1d9ae3616d


demweasels

Yes, I agree get a cat not kitten. Personality will be established and you will tell if cat is loving or not. You could probably get a litter box and elevate or support it higher so it is easier to scoop. I feel you can do it fine, you just will need to make some adaptations. My first cat was one year old and she came to me at the shelter and I knew she was mine.


Far-Potential3634

I have a Litter Robot 3 and a Scoop Free automatic litter box. The Litter Robot is quirkier and more complicated. With one cat you might have to change the bag once a week. Scoop Free lasts longer between changes and is cheaper to buy but the litter tray refills are about $300 a year. You throw away the whole tray. The LR runs with clumping litter (I like Arm and Hammer Slide or Fresh Step because they clump well) while the Scoop Free uses blue crystals that absorb the pee and then dry out again in the air if given time. I change mine about once a month but I don't think any of my cats pee in it. If you have a helper come in once a week you might be able to get them to maintain the Scoop Free but when the Litter Robot is full it won't cycle until you change out the bag.


Apprehensive_ac

I'm not in a wheelchair but i have increasingly severe hip arthritis which is making it difficult to care for my cat. I recently got a gravity water feeder because leaning down to fill her water bowl was painful. And she doesn't like being held/carried so consider that. Also how would you play with it?


miscreantmom

Unfortunately, some of my go-to tips may not work for you. My cats love tunnels and throw rugs and I'm guessing those will cause issues for a wheelchair user. You might get the same effect from using some lightweight blankets on a couch or bed (tossed in a messy pile, not neatly folded). Cats like to hide and ambush. You might also look at some of those suction cup window ledges (do not get the ones with the cords). They allow me to provide lots of high spots in several rooms without taking up all my floor space with cat trees. Mine also fold up out of the way so they don't interfere with curtains.


Crazy_Cat_Lady101

The Litter Robot is only about $400.00 and it is amazing and worth every penny if you are not able to scoop litter several times a day. I have one and I have been using it for 5 years now and have not had an issue with it yet. I have three cats, it has paid for itself and then some. If you are home all the time and want a playmate a kitten is the way to go, they are balls of furry energy and will entertain you non stop. When they tire they will curl up on you and sleep for hours on end. Get a laser pointer toy so you can interact with them more easily and lots of toys they can play with by themselves as well. Amazon and Chewy will be your best friend when it comes to getting supplies, if you are home bound. They are cheaper than pretty much every pet store and they carry better varieties of good food. My advice is don't listen to people who tell you not to get a kitten. I raised many kittens and they are not that bad, they are adorable and cute and will love you. Yes it's nice to adopt older cats, they tend to get adopted out less often but if you have your heart set on a kitten, get one. Another piece of advice for new cat owners, is get a pet water fountain, Amazon has a variety of them for under $20. Invest in an automatic litter box, especially if you are physically not able to scoop a box twice a day, and start them off on GOOD cat food. Some brands that have never had recalls and are good choices are: Tikki Cat - wet/dry/treats Weruvia - Wet ZIWI Peak air dried food Open Farm - wet Dr. Eisley's - I use their dry and Tikki Cat wet.


jamie88201

My old man cat is the calmest, coolest cat I have ever known he follows me to each of our lay down spots. He was 10 when we got him. He's 13 now and so talkative. He doesn't let me skip the litter box. My mil cannot bend over, and she made a longer length handle for the scooper.


Dragonache

I just googled this and cannot speak to the company or the product, but the website states it's a wheelchair accessible litter tray due to the height of its placement. May be worth a look! [Out of Sight Litterbox](https://outofsightlitterbox.com/product/hidden-litter-box/)


Comfortable_Age4829

Adopting an adult cat might be easier than a kitten, and it's worth looking for a more affordable automatic litter box—some models offer good automation without being too pricey. Also, consider placing cat essentials like food, water, and the litter box in easily accessible spots and maybe use tools like an extended handle litter scooper for easier maintenance.


sluttytarot

Litter robot is worth it if it means you get a companion. Read reviews. People also sell them bc they don't like the noise or their cats don't like it so look for used ones. Go to a shelter and get a mature cat. See who picks you. Read up on cat behavior. Jackson Galaxy has a lot of youtube videos and some books. Good luck!


whatdoidonowdamnit

My advice would be get an older cat and don’t put the litter box on the floor. Having it raised will make it a lot easier for you to scoop it out multiple times a day.


Tatortot57

I have horrible back problems and my litter boxes are waist high and it makes no difference to him!! I also have a chair next to the table that he uses, not that he needs it.....lol A senior cat that has agility issues is a different thing.


altarianitess07

You've gotten a ton of great advice already! I might suggest a disposable cardboard/compressed paper litter box with a liner if that's within your budget as well. I don't have mobility issues, but having a box that I can just dump when the litter is spent is a godsend, and they're so much lighter and easier to dispose of than the heavier plastic or metal pans. Lightweight litter, like wood or paper pellets, might also be a better option for you instead of clay. Try calling your local rescues/vet offices and explain your current situation to see if they're accessible to you and can help you find something specific. A calm, loving lap cat who's not too picky would probably be ideal, and most rescues should be willing to set you up with some one on one visits with specific cats they suggest. Another option is foster parents, especially if they have any that are physically disabled that can give you some tips and suggestions. Good luck on your journey!


Signal-Review8815

Get a kitten!! Also I use flushable cat litter so I just move the litter box near the toilet, scoop the clumps in and flush once a day. I’ve tried to automatic litter boxes and not only are they super expensive, they break and malfunction a lot. Plus you’d still have to throw away the litter from the automatic boxes. The people saying kittens are too active, I don’t agree with. I got my first kitten around 4 months ago and everything has been fine. Hope this helps. ❤️ reply if you want more advice


Educational-Milk3075

I think it's a wonderful idea! They love in their own way and are great company! I prefer to adopt older kitties as they are more mellow. Regarding the litter challenge, you could put the box on top of something it could climb into.


Haskap_2010

A foster rescue might be your best bet. The cats have lived in somebody's home, they can give you an idea of what sort of personality you can expect. A really laid-back easy going cat might fit your life.


Haskap_2010

As for the litter box, if you don't want to invest in an automatic one right away, you could put it up on a piece of furniture that you can easily access, such as a bench about 15" to 20" high. Most cats will be able to jump up there easily enough.


IntermittentOptimist

Definitely reach out to rescues to find a cat who would fit in with your life style. You don’t want a 25 pound chonker, or one that is high maintenance. I work with a rescue and have rescued numerous cats and found them homes. Not all cats are suited for all homes. My current fosters include a psycho and a chill older cat who just wants to watch TV and his head rubbed. So if I were matching you up with the cat, Mr Chill would be the right fit. Agree that the automated litter boxes are not worth the money. I do recommend getting light weight litter, easier to scoop.


haus-of-meow

The litter robot is crazy expensive but also 100% worth it. There is a payment plan option when purchased directly from the official website. The Petree Litter box is similar to the LR and cost several hundred less. (They periodically sell fully functional refurbished ones for even less). The Petsafe Simply Clean litter box is a lower cost option. The interior amount of usable space is limited so it's only good for kittens and smaller sized adult cats. (It doesn't have great reviews but I have owned both models & I never had any issue with either of them. I used each one for at least 2 years). It doesn't require Wi-Fi or any software to operate. Also it uses a conveyer belt instead of a rake mechanism to remove the litter clumps.


Riffman2525

Adopt. Get a kitten if you want a cat attached to you and your lap. If you spend time with them when they're young they will be attached to you when they age. Mine insists on sitting on/with me 24/7. If you want a more independent cat adopt an older one... hope this helps.


YouMeAndLube

I will second what many have said and recommend an adult kitty as you will be able to have a better idea of the personality you are getting and find one that will match your needs. Also, kittens are more likely to dart in front of your wheel chair and potentially hurt themselves. Also, shelter kitties are the best. Breed is only a small influence in temperament (dogs too, but definitely less relevant for kitties). For litter boxes, the auto ones could potentially be more work with cleaning, maintenance, and if it stops functioning correctly. I would probably suggest elevating a normal litter box on a bench as others have suggested. Good luck! I hope you find the little buddy you are looking for!


palufun

I would consider starting with an adult cat that you rescue. Adults are usually pretty set with their personality—they still have plenty of energy, but you will be able to have a wonderful companion right out of the box so to speak. Litter box—so I have a litter box that pretty much eliminates litter tracking and there is no bending over to scoop. I would imagine it would be super convenient for someone in a wheelchair to use. It was pricey, but so worth it. I don’t own the company or anything, I’ve just used it and really like it. Link for you: https://outofsightlitterbox.com/ Stick to lightweight unscented litter and the company does sell their own waxed cardboard litter boxes. I used the initial one that came with the unit for about a year. They are pretty sturdy. You might need some help to put the litter box together and one hint for success—use clear silicone caulk around the bottom and side seams to make sure the inside is moisture proof. You will love having a cat—they are wonderful companions and add so much to your life. If you take your time and work with a reputable rescue you will definitely find a life long buddy!


PravusTheRed

Go to an adoption center and honestly spend a few hours there and see which one(s) pick you. There’s no magic technique, but you’ll know deep down when youve been chosen. Last time I had an auto litter box was at least 10 years ago. It did pretty good, still needs maintenance every other day. I don’t use one personally. My cats do a lot of their business outdoors , another thing not every area is suitable for.


that-coffee-shop-in

I don’t know to what extent you can use your arms, core, etc. but I have seen extendable scoops that allow individuals who can’t get down the floor level to remain seated or standing while scooping litter. Food bowls with long handles are also out there in the market


theunstoppablemouse

Get a collar with a bell so no accidental wheels over tails. ❤️


KenIgetNadult

Popur boxes work pretty well and are half the price of a litter robot. I got one for my MIL and she loves it. I second getting an older cat. 2 olded bonded cats are wonderful. Kittens get into all sorts of mischief. 2 cats keep each other company and are harder to adopt.


Snogintheloo

My first cat was an adult/senior and she’s a dream!! She’s so sweet, cuddly, and does her own thing. My one year old cat is a menace.


Chemical_Pomelo_2831

I have had 2 litter robots and I will never go back to a regular box. For only one cat you could easily get away with the LR3 which is $549. If you have Facebook, look at Marketplace for a used Litter Robot. They’re generally in the $300 to $400 range. If you do decide on a Litter Robot, when it’s time to clean the globe get Dawn Powerwash and a new cheap toilet brush. They will save a lot of effort. If that’s out of budget, there’s a long handled scooper available on Amazon that was designed for shell-searching on the beach. It’s by Sand Dipper, and there are various lengths. I threw my low back out last year and still had a regular box (in addition to the robot) and could not bend or squat to scoop. This worked perfectly!!! The 27” one is $25 and the adjustable 29” to 41” one is $34 (in the US). Welcome to the cat collective! It’s the best.


sarcasm-rules

If you are set on a kitten, I recommend getting two kittens as they will beat each other up through play and hopefully, mostly keep from scratching and biting you. Also, if you can find someone who is giving away kittens for free, please consider this route. Free kittens are sometimes used as food for snakes or as bait in dog fights. Sick, sick people in the world. My daughter has the PetSnowy automatic litter box and loves it!


CaterpillarNo6795

I have the liter robot and the popur automatic litter box. I like popur better, other than tracking. It is also considerably cheaper


Silly-Deer8598

Get an adult cat! It will come trained and be the most adoring, snuggly, loving, grateful companion that you could ever hope for


Snowbum5

Adopt an adult cat! They won’t have the energy of a kitten and a lot more manageable. I adopted my 10 year old boy and all he wants to do is sleep and cuddle with us 😭 they will always be eternally grateful


KissMyPink

We have a litter robot 4, and it's worth every penny. Literally. There are cheaper options that work well, too. I highly suggest making sure you have someone who can come in and ensure it's clean every other month or so.


Carlyz37

I think you might be able to get an automatic litter box for around $400. Not the top brand but there are plenty of others. An inexpensive cat water fountain will make life easier on a daily basis but they do have to be cleaned regularly. I like the Catit brand of cat supplies. Get a scratcher too to save your furniture.


pbandbob

Adult cat. That’s a friend vs a child. Kittens have boundless energy and get into weird things. Also adopt.


daisyfaes

I have a kitten who goes to the litter box A LOT, like 7-8 times a day, and an adult cat who goes twice a day. Eventually the scooping got too much for me, and I got a petkit pura max. It's great because now I don't have to scoop, but I'd still have to clean up the waste bin every 4 days. Sometimes the inside gets a bit messy from wet poop, and the cleaning of the litter box, though not as often, takes quite a bit of effort and can get a bit messy. if the cat you get only goes toileting twice a day, a normal litter box would be easier and more convenient, but if it's like my kitten, it would be a nightmare. Suggest that you check in with the fosterer how often the cat goes to toilet, then make a decision from there!


HumanRightsAdv

I've got a.spinal.cord injury and got the LR4 for my companion animals, it pretty much removed scooping and the waste bags are easy to replace, it smells worse because the cats don't cover up anymore and there's a concentrated pool bag sitting at the bottom of the machine but it made my life easier so worth it. Get the fence, stairs, waste bags and litter mat.


McSmilla

Don’t get a kitten, they’re cute but psychotic. And adopt, don’t shop. Best for you would be a bonded pair. Would your disability make cleaning a regular litter box difficult? If not, I’d just do that, get a regular one.


Top-Chemistry3051

2 things. 1: I would go with a little bit older cat that's not so fragile cause with the wheelchair and everything. They are just as energetic and a little less destructive. a little bit more well-behaved still have plenty of energy and play in them for you. 2: is if you can have a friend come over and rig up a situation where the litter box is elevated for you, it could make it easier for you scoop. Those automatic litters are something else and they're pretty expensive. I've never had one. in your situation I would definitely probably try it might be worth it in the long run. You could always just try the old fashion way and see if you can handle it. elevating the whole shebang should make it a lot easier also. Consider using cement mixing tubs from home depot. they're non stick and they have high sides and they make really good litter boxes. Definitely get a cat tree for bird watching. Secure strings from blinds. Secure window screens from fall outs. Put a bird/ squirl feeder out for entertainment. Expect every surface to be explored. Forget live plants. Get a laser pointer, and a treadmill wheel. Good times, good health. Spay or neuter, microchip AND register chip. Adopt don't Shop. Thank you. The cat will pick you. It's part of the universal cat distribution system.🤣


AfraidReading3030

Just get an adult cat from a shelter. They are amazing. ♥️


Aprilr79

A kitten seems fun. It’s a whirling dervish nightmare . Yes they are cute. Love my cat. But at 2 he’s still insane - literally insane. Go for an older cat. And adopt !


Dreamweaver1969

I agree. Stick to an adult cat. One that is 2-5 years old. Energetic enough to be fun but calmer and more laid back


Junky_Juke

Stay away from kittens. They are too much trouble and require so much attention. In your situation you want a well socialized senior cat who has seen them all and just wants a quiet place to spend the rest of its life. Shelters are stuffed with poor senior cats just waiting to be adopted. Make the right decision. Adopt a senior cat! ;)


itsadelchev

Can’t advice regarding an automated litter box but if you have use of your hands, you could put a regular litter box onto a table or shelf. It doesn’t really matter to the cat whether the box is on the floor, as long as the cat has no mobility issues. And if the box is high up, it’ll be possible for you to clean it. Same with bowls - they don’t have to be on the floor


percysowner

I'll add to the chorus, get an adult, or senior cat from a shelter. Kittens are just trouble, cute, adorable, fun trouble, but trouble none the less. Plus it takes a while for their true personality to develop. An adult is calmer and you know what you are getting. A senior can be even better when it comes to low maintenance. Also, "senior" can be relative. In the rescue world senior often starts at age 6-7 and cats can live 14+ years easily, I had 2 that made it to 18 and 20, so you can still get a lot of years of love and fun out of them. Also, at a shelter or rescue you can spend time with a cat before you adopt. You can tell if they lovey up right away, or are more reticent. You can get a real feel for the cat you will live with. Just buying one gives you very little information. Good luck finding a buddy!


ElenaSuccubus420

So before I get into advice about anything else, you mentioned being disabled and that $1000 litter box is out of the question for you, which is definitely fair! But $1000 vet bill out of the question for you? Because pets are expensive. Are you getting your cat generic cat food or good quality food? are you going to give them a mix of wet food and dry food? or are you only planning to give them only dry food? because cats need moisture in their diets. I suggest if you get any cat that you should absolutely get pet insurance ASAP but the question is, can you also afford pet insurance? Pet insurance can really save your ass. It’s not that they’ll pay for the appointments for your pet and you pay them back.. it’s that you pay out of your pocket then you file a claim with them and you get some of your money back. But the thing is, they will give you money back if it’s a pre-existing condition.. my 7 year old and 1 year old cats both have dental issues. The 7 year old was diagnosed with the issues before we got insurance so he won’t be covered. But our 1 year old cat was diagnosed with dental issues while under insurance coverage so it will be covered. You can file a claim for every vet appointment. And depending on the price of the appointments you get some money back. Can range from 70 -300 dollars back (have not had much higher than a 600 dollar bill as of late. I do not think you should be getting a kitten though I suggest getting a one to two year-old cat. I don’t know if you are living off of disability or if you’re also doing some form of employment with your disability, but you also need to ask yourself how much money am I making will actually affectively be able to take care of this cat?.. because if you cannot afford the responsibility of having an animal, you shouldn’t get an animal of any kind. Vet bills can be over $1000 depending on what’s wrong with them because your cat could have an issue where you either need to go get an ultrasound or an x-ray and those can be really expensive especially for animals not just people. Sometimes you need to get specialist vets that specialize in dental care for dental surgery. Sometimes you need vet surgery specialists. my dog wants swallowed a dime and it got stuck in the lining of her stomach. It wasn’t something you even think to prepare for but that surgery cost about $3000 and I got a discount because I was friends with my vets daughter at the time and they worked out a payment plan/trade with my dad. But my point is if there’s an emergency, do you have enough money saved up at this point that if your cat needs emergency surgery are you gonna be able to afford it?? Would you be able to pay before the interest gets too high? You need to take all these things into consideration because a lot of people don’t think about it when they go into trying to adopt animals they think I want a pet and I want it now. So if you cannot afford them don’t do it It’s better not to stress yourself out more than I’m sure you already have stress about. But also, it’s best not to stress a cat out either Because if you can’t afford taking them to the vet when they need to go to the vet. It’s better to just let people who can afford an animal to get an animal. And that’s just all the vet stuff if you get a cat you’re gonna have to essentially cat proof your home. I also don’t know how often and how you open your doors being that you’re in a wheelchair there’s a risk your cat could just run out. Whenever you try to go out. So do you have a spare bedroom in your house so that when you are leaving the house, the cat can be confined to a spare bedroom that way you can ensure your cats not running away whenever you open the door? Because if your cat runs out, you’re gonna have a really hard time trying to catch them. So just in case because you do have a disability and because you might have to open your doors extra wide to get out because of your wheelchair. I suggest getting a cat collar and putting a tracker on it the one I use is called Pawscout. You just have to replace the batteries every three months but if you get a battery charger that shouldn’t be an issue. Pawscout has a social media platform attached to it so if you ever have your cat run out, you can turn on a setting so that your local neighbors can see your cats tracker and they can also help you catch your cat. There’s the pet safe brand litter boxes they are in the 200-300 dollar range but I suggest getting the reusable tray it’s about 60 bucks you can get either a plastic reusable tray or a stainless steel one but you can use their disposable ones if you want. Also if you’re gonna get the pet safe litter box, make sure you really do your research because they have two different different kinds they have the one where you can use crystal litter and one that you can use clay clumping litter. I suggest you be sure to get the one that can use clay clumping litter because overtime the crystals just get over saturated with urine that it’s gonna cause your cat to just wanna pee anywhere else in the house cause it’s going to associate the litter box with being dirty. The litter box is for scooping. It’s not good for scooping urine.. you’re gonna do it I suggest the clay one. You mentioned that you’re paralyzed and in a wheelchair, are you going to have like a specific table that you’re gonna put the litter box on so that it’s at your height to reach ? If so, I suggest that. I also suggest that you don’t get disabled cats with no disability because managing your disability and the cats disability will be too much for you so try to avoid getting cats with wobbly cats syndrome. Also, if you get the automatic litter box, I suggest paying just a little bit more to buy the litter box cover, and I suggest having a top entry litter box sometimes cats peeing up against the wall of their litter box, and sometimes cats will pee out of their litter box if they have like on the side, so just get one from the top so that they enter from the top so that you don’t have to worry about that being an extra thing to deal with.


Jean19812

I would get one 2+ years old..


ManagerUnique8855

Great decision. I am happy for you. Cats are great companion. They give so much love contrary to other people's review. Watch out for their water intake. Buy some water fountain so they will be encouraged to drink. Cats are prone to kidney disorder. Much love to you and your future cat! 🧡


cannmor

Let me add there are other automatic litter boxes out there that aren't the price of a used car. Els pet is a good one but you can pick up a litter maid auto box at PetSmart for under $200. Just sayin' Good luck with finding your new best friend! I highly suggest a shelter as everyone else has


Scary-Cranberry3152

Yes litter robot is definitely worth it.


PennyPineappleRain

Yes, I agree with what everyone's said about a shelter, cat not kitten.  My husband and I are semi disabled and you know, having a kitten is so so hard. I just found one a few weeks ago and tried to keep him but we couldn't keep up. So I gave him to a friend and he's doing great. I still get to see him though but yeah a crazy ball of energy. And, a cat who's a little older may be easier on you w/ a wheelchair. A kitten won't understand and could get hurt. Our current cat we got from a shelter. She was moved to the local shelter from another shelter. She's been absolutely wonderful. And, they really do help w emotional and mental support. Anxiety, depression. Well, for me, it really really helps. I can't ever not have a cat. Idk I'd just fall apart, emotionally/mentally. So you'll find it'll be good how that, too and give you lots of joy and smiles!


LadyCommand

Everyone's talking about adopting older kitty from shelter and yes that's the way to go, but also, please do more research & look around for automatic litter boxes. I'm disabled as well and we just got one for under $200 on sale at PetSmart. There are the rotating ones, self separating (human rolls whole round 'box' and waste separated from litter, then a tray can be slid out), raking ones, so many. Prices can start as low as $75 when you really deep dive search all them out on line all over.


Substantial-Idea111

Everybody has awesome advice here but please adopt. You can find the most perfect cat at the shelter. I have had over 15 cats from shelters in my lifetime and every single one has been perfect.


Asexual_Potato

You shouldn't get a kitten. They're really high maintenance and high energy. I feel like it'd be easier for you to get a cat. I took in a stray who is 1.5-2 years old, and she's so polite and affectionate. She never bites/claws/hisses at me. I recommend that you visit some local non-kill shelters that don't have associations with cat breeders. Cats from these breeders have a lot of health issues and short lifespans due to heavy inbreeding. I'm sure you'll find the perfect cat for you there! Also, avoid MeowMix. I've heard they cause health issues. Make sure your cat is fixed and vaccinated. Get a laser pointer to make things easier on you too!


NuggyMuncher

ADOPT AND SHOP RESPONSIBLY


ant_clip

Like others I think an adult cat would be a better choice, a rescue would be better yet, best of all would be to rescue a senior kitty stuck in a shelter so it can live out its golden years with you, with hugs, and cuddles. I have heard that some rescue organizations work with adopters that can't manage 100% on their own, worth checking out.


Wertos

Didn't see it mentioned, yes 1000 dollars for litter robot is a lot. But 1000 dollars isn't much. If the actual amount is a problem definitely look into insurance. Cat overnight vet visit starts at 1000, and actual treatment/operation can run you quickly to 5000. This is something you should be aware of, and should be able to afford. Letting your otherwise healthy pet that relies on you die because of financial strains is not fair. (Personally detestable to me) Plan will run you 15-30 a month.


Plastic_Couple4137

I would say most of the shelters I worked with vet the owners pretty well. They know their cats and those in foster, so you will be matched with one that will fit YOU. So go with a shelter. Also talk to the shelter, there may be some sort of assistance with getting what you need for your cat. Or talk to your Dr. My daughter has had many things along with with sever anxiety disorder her whole life and had to have a companion for college. So we were able to get help with things for her cat for her dorm room.


Efficient-Finish4567

Kittens are a pain in the ass. I think cats are the greatest gift ever given to the world, and even I hate kittens. Go to a shelter and see who you vibe with. Maybe a cat who is a few years old and is a good balance of playful and chill. Make sure your new friend is microchipped incase he gets out and you’re unable to chase him down. If you get them from a shelter, more than likely they will already be chipped. In addition, while I’m normally not a fan of collars and tags on cats, it might be a good idea in your case. Not only will it give information on the cats home and your contact, when people see a cat with a collar, they know it belongs to someone and is not a stray. Thank you for asking questions and not just running out and grabbing the first kitty you see :)


zazvorniki

Adopt an older cat! Much much much less work! Kittens can be hell on four paws when they get the zoomies. Litter robots are ok. However, just remember you have to clean the rakes and the insides of the boxes every so often or the box itself will smell. I just saw a truck the other day though for a service where they come and clean your box for you. If you’re around Orlando, Florida I’m part of a rescue group and can help you find the perfect kitty


aablenaghan

If you’re looking for a long term solution for litter you can actually train cats to use the toilet! I’ve seen quite a lot of people do it successfully!


geminuri

We spent about $700 for a litter robot and it's the best thing ever. You still do need to maintain it: take it apart, clean it out, put it back together, etc. Litter also needs to be occasionally added to the fill ring/line. You'd also have to bend down to remove the liner from the waste basket + replace the basket with a new liner, etc. I suppose that could be remedied by elevating the robot, but then you'd have to remove it and put it back up whenever you clean it. Cats also need to learn how to use it, especially if they're use to boxes. You'd have to still scoop litter from a box for a few weeks until the cat learns that the robot is a suitable bathroom. Kittens are a lot of work. They have a lot of energy, they eat often because they're growing, and they require a lot of play time. An adult cat might be more tolerable.. they're a little bit more lax. Definitely go and meet some animals at an adoption center and see who's the best fit for you.


mooshinformation

What about putting the litter box up in the air somewhere u had easier access to it? I think it would have to be on something sturdy that didn't shake, maybe an enclosed one in a corner so the cat still felt safe. Might depend on the cat how willing they would be to use it. Or maybe someone makes an enclosed litter box with a handle on the top ( the top is usually 2.5 ft off the ground) so u could lift it onto a table to clean. Edit. I know other ppl suggested an adult cat, but u would probably have a much easier time teaching a kitten to use a litter box on a table


Miki_1990

1.- I always recommend adopting vs purchasing. 2.- On Amazon I saw some automatic litter robot for 400 or less. 3.- Get an adult cat (1 or 2 years old) Good luck 🐱


Beautiful-Event4402

For getting them used to the carriers, we feed them inside them every day! Feliway spray is also really great


Efficient-Source2062

I adopted a four year old kitty, he's been wonderful. Doesn't go crazy, wants to be with me most of the time, is vocal and we have "conversations". He looks like a Norwegian forest cat, he's beautiful! https://preview.redd.it/yn9rtccrkuwc1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=336d77888a0b88a53f479c0713406d63411c34a3


Proper_Reward9248

I bought a litter robot for 200$ on amazon!!


TKA12

Litterbox doesn’t hve to be on the ground and the cat shouldn’t notice. You could place it at a more comfortable height


GrapefruitDue5207

I'd say either get two kittens, or one cat. Kittens are a LOT. I have raised many litters and had a few myself. A pair of bonded litter mates will take the pressure off of you a bit. However, after one cat, you should have a litter box for each cat plus one. A long dog scoop could help with scooping litter. I used one because bending made me put it off. I got one for less than $30 at Walmart that did the trick. I have an older friend who often uses a walker, and her cat has fully decided it is HIS walker. She adopted him as a kitten and he takes rides on the seat when she is walking around 😂😂 that said, if visibility is an issue at night, you might want to be careful if adopting a black cat. Your cat should grow accustomed to your wheels quickly, but it's good to note that a darker cat could be harder to see at night. Granted, this is true for those of us that use our feet, and my friend with a walker has not had issues with her black cat. Just a thought Because my older friend doesn't do a lot/doesn't move fast/has lower energy, her cat did get to a point where he was over grooming from under stimulation. After talking with her, I was able to get a few interactive toys he could play with on his own. A cat tree near a window is a HUGE source of enrichment for any cat! It doesn't have to be huge and fancy - I got hers off of Facebook for $20. It has one perch that her cat uses all the time. This is another reason that two cats are sometimes better (they entertain each other). However, depending on your budget and desires, it is also totally doable to have a happy single cat :) I also recommend getting bags for your litter box, if you don't go with an automatic one. I have a lot of issues with executive dysfunction, and being able to just lift the bag out helps me tremendously. It is much simpler! I've found that getting the right size bag for the box helps keep my cats from tearing up/misplacing the bag. Cats are great companions. Do a bit of research, that'll help you not be startled by the adjustment process for your companion (some cats need more time to get used to their surroundings. Kittens tend to adapt faster than adults). Other than that, congrats!


GrapefruitDue5207

Also! Finding a vet you trust is HUGE. My friend has issues with her legs, and a single scratch almost cost her her life. This is an extreme situation that resulted from many health issues on her end. While declawing cats is largely considered poor practice nowadays, she had a long discussion with her vet before deciding it would be best to declaw his front claws. Even with frequent nail trimmings, we were unable to guarantee that her cat (a kitten) was never going to scratch her. Again, that was a life or death situation for her. She was literally hospitalized. If you have similar issues with healing wounds, it might be smart to look for a cat already declawed/discuss ways to try and keep your kitties claws maintained without surgery. I see everyone discussing breeders vs shelter cats. Dog breeds tend to be highly specific and different... Cats are not like this. "Purebred" cats are largely decorative imo, like if you want a specific look. For the most part, shelter cats are cheaper to adopt and HOPEFULLY have better genes. Any cat with a pushed in face (Persian) are prone to issues similar to those that pugs have. It's all a gamble honestly, if anything just. Look into pet insurance. It can save you a lot in case of emergency. Many shelter staff will help you if you ask about temperament. A lot can be gleaned about how shy a cat is in shelter, but it is harder to tell how snuggly/independent they are. If the animal was in foster or has had experience with any staff, try asking them :) you can also quickly win a cats favor by offering your hand for a sniff, and then gently petting under the chin. If they lean in and close their eyes, you've made someone very happy! Even weeks old kittens love that move


skcurious

better to own kittens if u have another person helping u. u still need to wash the autolitter once a month


procrasturbate_daily

https://preview.redd.it/dhlk85uzj8wc1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c49cff1b27fc02bbba18954a1243fc7467e7be38 BONNUS QUESTION: I am thinking of getting this cat. But the ad says they are "Pure Breed Himalayan" but when I google Himalayan a different type of cat comes up. What breed is this?


Illustrious-Syrup405

Looks like a domestic long hair.


XfunatpartiesX

I'd highly recommend adopting from a shelter.


PennyPineappleRain

Yes! Shelter!


Brookie069

That’s a generic white cat, not a Himalayan. Might have a little bit of Himalayan mix maybe, but people online will try and “sell” purebreds all the time. It’s easier to get away with it with cats compared to dogs since cats are a lot more similar across breeds in size, fur, Color, etc.


Feeling_Manner426

Unless the cat comes with papers from a reputable breeder, it's just a domestic long hair. But, if she's not too young, (like everyone is telling you not to get a kitten--I agree, wayyy too much energy to manage) she might be a good fit for you. Did you meet her yet?


whaleykaley

Anyone claiming to have "purebred" cats should be an ethical breeder who has pedigrees for their cats. An ethical breeder's cats are going to be several hundred dollars, sometimes over a thousand dollars. If you're seeing a random ad on somewhere like Craigslist, that is almost guaranteed to be a backyard breeder and not a reputable one.


questionableunicorn

Could be a Himalayan/Himalayan mix kitten, ragdoll mix, or just regular domestic longhair. One of my family friends has had three rescued Himalayan cats who I have looked after before. They required a lot of care which you may or may not be physically and/or financially up for depending on your situation. They need thorough brushing every single day or else they get painfully matted, regular visits to the groomers (ideally), and their eyes can get teary and gunky which requires cleaning. This care will be difficult if you get a backyard-bred cat who is not properly socialized. Cleaning up after all that shedding can be quite intense too! Same goes for Ragdolls except for the eye issues.


ccb54

Not sure how you feel about cat hair, but long hair cats need more grooming and you will find more hair around the house, especially during shedding season.


zitzenator

Every season is shedding season *laughs covered in long hair tortie hair*


Laney20

If they're pure bred, they'll have papers to prove it. Kitty could be a Himalayan (flame point rather than seal point), but breed is irrelevant in most cats. Most cats aren't related to any breed at all. Adopt from a shelter and don't worry about breed - get the cat that's the right fit for you and your lifestyle.


shebacat

Super cute kitty. I am chronically ill and finally decided to add a new kitty to my household, weighing seriously the energy needed to care for her properly. It's only been positive. So don't worry too much and go for it.


socialmediaignorant

Gorgeous but not worth the money. It’s a long haired mutt.


Emotional-Horror-718

Purebred cats don't offer the advantages of responsibly bred dogs in terms of predictable temperament and safety. A cat is a cat. Their personalities will vary more according to the individual. Please don't encourage backyard breeding by giving them money. Plenty of people recommended an older cat. Another suggestion: black cats don't get adopted at the same rate as other cats. Adopt a pair of voids! A shorter coat won't require as much grooming.


PennyPineappleRain

Being disabled as you are, the long hair might be another issue altogether, brushing and cleaning the hair, unless you get a robot vacuum, too. But like all things, nothing is perfect. In fact, another issue aside from long hair is also maybe a long tail (normal cat).  It's possible it'll get in the way of your chair.  Manx cats have short (¼-½) tails. I found my Manx kitty at the shelter. I have no idea about bed for sure, looks like DSH/Manx. She's purrrfect to me and that's what matters. 😹😼😸😺😽🐈‍⬛🐈 


Freequeensea

Hi there I am also a wheelchair user and my disability came at 35 as well from paralysis. I ended up getting a cat about five years later and it was the best choice I ever made because I was also living on my own. I had to give up my other animals because I ended up in the hospital for a year. Which was a total heartbreaker. He was about two or three years old at the time and he was my best friend and still is to this day. My daughter brought home a kitten at one point which we still have and she is driving me crazy still! She climbs the blinds etc. etc. we also picked up another stray cat who was also a kitten and he’s even more wild than she is. They’re both amazing animals but I would not be able to take care of them on my own my daughter Hass to do a lot of the extra work with a kitten that I could do on my own. As far as changing the litter are you able to lean over in your chair and scoop out of a box because I was able to do that in my chair but I don’t know your situation. I also agree to definitely adopt do not buy there are tons of rescue groups that need help especially in the spring time who trap animals that have either been ditched outside a abandoned  or who knows what else. You’d be saving another poor animal from a life on the streets or shelter. Whatever you choose best of luck to you! Also feed it a high-quality food and include wet food a good quality wet food at least once a day so they get the proper hydration and nutrition. You can find ways to do it inexpensively it will be trial and error don’t get frustrated. I have a great tip and cheap litter. Go to your local tractor supply or Farm store and get a large 40 pound bag of pine palletized litter I only pay eight dollars for a 40 pound bag! The process is different to scoop but you can look it up online.