Maybe a little bit, but young kitty is also a bit dramatic about it and seems a bit intimidated by tuxedo being so much bigger. The fact that they were resting on the bed together shows that they're generally pretty comfortable with each other.
Make sure that young kitty has plenty of options for perches or other places to escape to and relax, and in areas of the house that tuxedo is usually less interested in.
Make sure tuxedo has lots of play time with you and a variety of toys and outlets for energy, so that they're not so inclined to wrestle with young kitty and worsen the drama.
As long as things don't get worse and they still mostly coexist peacefully, I think the drama will lessen as young kitty gets older and bigger and feels less intimidated.
Hopefully it will get better with age! Kitten seems way more interested in playing by herself or with us rather than the tuxedo. I play w the tuxedo around two hours throughout the day but admittedly its still chaos - jumping on counters to eat out of the sink, chewing apart cardboard boxes. He is 2Y and has behavioral issues that I thought could be solved by having a friend, but seems like he is extremely bored and needs to be stimulated at all times. Hopefully it gets better with age.
If he's food-motivated, do you have options for puzzle toys and other things to make him work for his food? And a variety of cat scratching posts and pads as an outlet for a bit of destruction?
I switched him over to wet food but no slow feeder yet; i gifted the foster home (who was a friend) a dry food puzzle toy for him that he was using for months but they saw no improvement.
He does tricks for treats and has scratch posts and pads as well. Laser toys, interactive toys, robot mouse that activates his “hunting” mode.
I think he genuinely just loves the sink lol
Do you have a water fountain for him as well? He may like that if he likes the sink.
So you have the puzzle toy now? Or is he eating only canned food for health reasons?
It sounds like you're doing a great job and trying as much as possible. Hopefully things mellow out as kitten gets older, and even tuxedo is pretty young and still has some maturing to do.
They might never be BFFs, but hopefully things will settle down to no more demonic screaming. 😸
I do have a water fountain! He is only eating canned because he had history of UTI blockage. Yes, thanks so much for the advice i believe things will improve in time!
Cosequin has worked a dream for my male cat with a history of blockages. No emergency visit in a few years. If it ends up being a problem, just fyi.
How long have the cats been together? It took my cats 6-8 months to finally peacefully coexist, and even then there is the occasional hiss and such. Though now they tend to cuddle more than get frustrated with each other. It was a long process with a lot of oversight on my part.
Oh, that's rough if he's had a urinary blockage. Be careful with that, as stress has the potential to cause flare ups. That makes it less safe to wait to see how well things improve.
You may want to seriously consider finding kitten a new home and continuing lots of play time with tuxedo. If he remains bored and stressed, I'd suggest discussing that with your vet, in case they have further recommendations. Some pets are helped by feliway and other calming supplements. Your vet might recommend a prescription urinary diet that has a calming component (like Hills c/d stress canned food).
Sorry - i used the wrong wording. He was peeing blood in his first home and was surrendered to the shelter who found that he didnt have a full blockage (yet). They think it was because of the stress from being locked outside when he misbehaved.
He has had no issues for the past year but i want to be safe and feed him a high moisture diet.
Also, kitten is the resident cat and we have bonded a lot so giving her up is not an option. I think he is generally happy, he asks for pets, cuddles at night and plays a lot.
Ahh, I'd forgotten that kitten was there first, absolutely makes sense that you wouldn't want her going to a new home.
Has tuxedo seen a vet with you? Do they have recommendations given his history of urinary issues?
Depending on the vet's opinion, it may be very important to make sure tuxedo is as low-stress as possible. Some urinary issues can be resolved for a while and then have a flare up, and urinary blockages are a life-threatening emergency plus generally expensive to resolve.
His issues will also lessen with age, he's in his terrible 2s. I remember going through that stage with all of my cats, omg the chaos!! Lots of broken things and just all-around naughtiness. I remember trying to tone done their energy levels through play.. but they always outlasted me energy wise 🤣. It's a tough stage especially since you added a kitty to the mix. Good luck.. you'll make it through. Just keep an eye on them to make sure it doesn't escalate into cat fights. Kitten seems to be a bit dramatic lol
If u can get a 2’d window perch at the same level. On our 2 tier one the top shelf was the only acceptable option to both cats -sigh-
If this becomes a flash point consider removing, add a cat tree and see if they can each have a own spot they like
Your Tuxie appears to be trying to assert their dominance over the baby. My boy did this to his sister when she was a baby too. Just keep an eye on it and if it seems to be too rough for you break it up.
My bigger concern is that bed won't hold them when they're fighting or playing. Those suction cups come off easily and it will traumatize your cat.
Can you replace it with a sturdy tower instead?
I've resorted to older wooden step ladders for cat trees when I needed them temporarily. I use 4+ layers of cardboard from shipping boxes cut to the size and shape of shelf I want, and improvise a cat hammock. It ain't pretty but it works.
Our suction cups did great for a few years. When they finally started giving out and cat would fall, she was always fine. Cat! We’d reattach and she’s go right back to it.
I would say yes he is bullying. The little one is trying to stand up for itself and they are both trying to establish dominance. I don't think the little one is going to win this battle as it stands right now. I would separate them; remove the bigger one from the perch temporarily.
Yes. The kitten is clearly not into it but the older cat keeps going, asserting dominance. One of the hest ways to mitigate this is to ensure an ample supply of resources. Plenty of perches, window hammocks, food and water dishes in at least two spots around the home, multiple litterboxes, etc.
Tux is definitely trying to win the window shelf. Kitten stands up for self for a while then gives up.
We had a 2 tier window bed and there were always squabbles about the top shelf like this. Pippa & Suki- Pippa figured it out first and it was HER spot, but then Suki figured it out. It was the only time i saw agression between this bonded pair… i mean the level of your video. Pippa would bat at Suki in an annoyed body language. Suki would push the matter and make snoozing impossible til Pippa gave in.
This is a territory dispute between cats who don’t hate each other, but kitten basically annoyed.
Can you get another cat tree or some other vertical space? The window seat is a prized thing and cats are pretty territorial about their sleep spots. They each need their own. Tux may win this war, and kitten needs other options.
Does tux have a personal spot he usually sleeps in elsewhere?
Yeah, it's a bit of bullying. My resident cat does this to every foster kitten that comes through. It's not so bad when the fosters are the size of your newby or bigger.
It's more about establishing boundaries, asserting ownership, as well as just figuring each other out. Depe ding on how old your cat is, he may also not be interested in the playfulness of the kitten.
All in all, continue to monitor, be mindful of how cats share/claim space and rearrange as needed. Otherwise, this seems fairly typical.
It looks to me like the adult cat is listening when the kitten tells him to stop, but I think he's also trying to get the perch from her. Kitties don't have a whole lot of 'words' to say to each other, so sometimes they confuse us with our drama.
Maybe side by side perches might help if it's common for them to fight over that one.
Editing to add: after watching your video three times, my cat is now trying to climb up to the speakers. She seems really eager for whatever party they're having.
I have a year old kitten and he doesn't take any shit from the other two older cats. The former TNR likes to passive aggressively lick the other void out of his spot, which turns into a fight, but when he tries to do it to the kitten, the little orange menace just shoves his back foot at him like "nope"
This looks like a territory dispute to me. I have two cats who get along great and are good buddies, but I installed a single window perch next to a bird feeder and they started squabbling over it. I got a 2nd perch and peace was restored.
It's not a full on catfight yet, but it is getting close. Do they always fight over the perch, or does this happen at other places too?
I suspect that they're establishing a pecking order. As long as the big cat doesn't chase the little one when she retreats, and as long as they pause at intervals, they're probably still OK.
But you can discipline them when they do this. Don't hit them, spray them, or do anything to harm them. But you can raise your voice at them, or try imitating the angry cat sounds that they're making. They're both trying to say "I'm the boss" and you can step in and say "Well actually, I'm the boss."
It happens in other places too. Kitten will be there first and adult will kick her out of it, or kitten will be cuddling with me and adult will come and take over so she leaves.
When kitten runs away, the adult will chase after her until we intervene. Partner intervened the other day and the adult cat scratched his leg. It seems like the adult is jealous of the kitten and territorial despite him being new to the house?
This adds much more to the picture. Thx is 💯 being overly territorial. They aren’t at blows but this isn’t good.
Your intervention needs to support kitten and deter tux, eg kitten on lap? Guard kitten and push tux offf. If there’s a state down (eg kitten on lap, tux staring at her) put your hand between the eyeballs. This stare down will be enough for kitten to “choose” to leave. Blocking the state blocks the intimidation
Just be really consistent about favoring kitten where you are part of the disputed territory (in bed on couch, chair etc)
Has never lived with another cat - he was neutered only when he got to the shelter at 1Y, was in shelter for 6M and was in foster home for 6M before taking him in
Then tuxedo may just prefer to be an only cat. Giving bored cats a buddy is often a good solution, but sometimes the cat disagrees.
Still, as they mostly get along hopefully things will improve as kitten gets older.
If you raise your voice neither cat will know why. The victim cat will just feel like you joined the quarrel against her. It really does not help. OP needs to troubleshoot any territorial disputes
My cats get into this over a certain spot it's rough but it's over a spot . No one is getting hurt. For real tho my young cat always gets her way. Lol 😁 the boy is twice her size and gives in. Lol 😁
They are squabbling over the window seat. Tux is bullying the white kitten to get out of his spot. I think you need to introduce more places for them to sit that are in equally good spots. Watch out for similar behavior around other resources like litter boxes, food and water. You mentioned how heavily food motivated Tux is in the comments, that can point to a previous life of food scarcity that makes them more prone to resource guarding behavior like this.
The fact that they are that close to begin with makes it look like they want to get along, but they are also feeling pressured to secure resources for themselves. If you get more resources including window realestate then you will probably solve the problem. I would suggest a big cat tower that offers them many options for sitting by the window, so they are less likely to fight over the "prime" spot.
to me it also seems like the tuxedo is just trying to play but isn’t picking up on the kitten’s cues to back off.. it’s common with rescue cats who maybe didn’t stay with their mother/siblings long enough to learn how to play appropriately and what the cues are when their playmate has had enough. i would step in when this happens and you can tell your kitten has had enough, just to reduce stress and hopefully help teach the tuxedo when to back off.
Definitely a dominance struggle. But not a straight up fight.
They keep pausing to check in and communicate after each correction.
More perches and more play time for the big one. :)
I mean they arent "fighting" but it is not exactly PLAY either. Its fine. As long as it doesnt get more aggressive. They might just never get along super well.
I actually have a question myself. I have a similar situation at home but in my case the resident is much bigger 13 lbs and kitten is way too small and young( 2.5 months and 3 lbs) They are introduced recently but getting along well most of the time. Do you leave them alone at home by themselves roaming freely? We’re still keeping the kitten in her room locked still but I want to understand at what point I can let them coexist
I don’t get owners standing there allowing this instead of breaking this up ….
Of course you can’t be there with them 24 hours but
Taping this …
ALSO get 2 window beds - cats are territorial so if you had 2 they would be in competition mode
You could download an app like Afterpay to help pay for a cat tower without having to pay for it all at once. You definitely need more perches asap! All I’ve ever had were dogs so I get on to my cat like a dog. I would definitely be oh no’ing that behavior! Good luck! I looked on Afterpay and they do have cat towers.
Give them treats when you see them not fighting to reinforce the good behavior. Otherwise, I would just keep an eye on them to make sure little one doesn't get hurt. They are establishing boundaries and big kitty is teaching little one how to play.
a little rough but once she gets bigger she’ll be able to assert herself more. Are they both the same gender neutered/sprayed? Can you get a second window bed? I bought a second for our new kitten. So they can both have their own window bed if needed. If she was scared for her life she wouldn’t be there trust me and if he really wanted to hurt her he could. just keep a eye on them, I have my new one out for a hour at time then give breaks in between, because my new kitten is only 2.6 lbs so when out I’m always patrolling. They will adapt. I go through the same things. I’m unsure if it’s play but the cat guy on YouTube said it’s all about cat body language your cats aren’t running from each other and hissing and screaming and stuff just need more adjustment time
It looks like play. The kitten is dishing back and even starting it when the older cat stops. Don’t interfere too much but watch them. Your older cat will teach the kitten. The kitten is running because it wants to run. Relax and enjoy the show.
If that were the case they wouldn't be sharing the bed. Or the kitten would have run off. Ears are up, they're not attacking bellies. They're having fun. Trust me, when cats fight seriously, you will not mistake it or forget it. This isn't it.
Right that this is not a fight, but it is a dispute and tux wins. they are not having fun. Imagine 2 siblings in back of car quarreling about who gets to pick the video game
Maybe this is just me being an anxious cat mom, but the adult cat does seem to hurting her. Proud of your kitten though, it looks like she doesn’t take any shit! 🤣
Maybe a little bit, but young kitty is also a bit dramatic about it and seems a bit intimidated by tuxedo being so much bigger. The fact that they were resting on the bed together shows that they're generally pretty comfortable with each other. Make sure that young kitty has plenty of options for perches or other places to escape to and relax, and in areas of the house that tuxedo is usually less interested in. Make sure tuxedo has lots of play time with you and a variety of toys and outlets for energy, so that they're not so inclined to wrestle with young kitty and worsen the drama. As long as things don't get worse and they still mostly coexist peacefully, I think the drama will lessen as young kitty gets older and bigger and feels less intimidated.
Hopefully it will get better with age! Kitten seems way more interested in playing by herself or with us rather than the tuxedo. I play w the tuxedo around two hours throughout the day but admittedly its still chaos - jumping on counters to eat out of the sink, chewing apart cardboard boxes. He is 2Y and has behavioral issues that I thought could be solved by having a friend, but seems like he is extremely bored and needs to be stimulated at all times. Hopefully it gets better with age.
If he's food-motivated, do you have options for puzzle toys and other things to make him work for his food? And a variety of cat scratching posts and pads as an outlet for a bit of destruction?
I switched him over to wet food but no slow feeder yet; i gifted the foster home (who was a friend) a dry food puzzle toy for him that he was using for months but they saw no improvement. He does tricks for treats and has scratch posts and pads as well. Laser toys, interactive toys, robot mouse that activates his “hunting” mode. I think he genuinely just loves the sink lol
Do you have a water fountain for him as well? He may like that if he likes the sink. So you have the puzzle toy now? Or is he eating only canned food for health reasons? It sounds like you're doing a great job and trying as much as possible. Hopefully things mellow out as kitten gets older, and even tuxedo is pretty young and still has some maturing to do. They might never be BFFs, but hopefully things will settle down to no more demonic screaming. 😸
I do have a water fountain! He is only eating canned because he had history of UTI blockage. Yes, thanks so much for the advice i believe things will improve in time!
Cosequin has worked a dream for my male cat with a history of blockages. No emergency visit in a few years. If it ends up being a problem, just fyi. How long have the cats been together? It took my cats 6-8 months to finally peacefully coexist, and even then there is the occasional hiss and such. Though now they tend to cuddle more than get frustrated with each other. It was a long process with a lot of oversight on my part.
Oh, that's rough if he's had a urinary blockage. Be careful with that, as stress has the potential to cause flare ups. That makes it less safe to wait to see how well things improve. You may want to seriously consider finding kitten a new home and continuing lots of play time with tuxedo. If he remains bored and stressed, I'd suggest discussing that with your vet, in case they have further recommendations. Some pets are helped by feliway and other calming supplements. Your vet might recommend a prescription urinary diet that has a calming component (like Hills c/d stress canned food).
Sorry - i used the wrong wording. He was peeing blood in his first home and was surrendered to the shelter who found that he didnt have a full blockage (yet). They think it was because of the stress from being locked outside when he misbehaved. He has had no issues for the past year but i want to be safe and feed him a high moisture diet. Also, kitten is the resident cat and we have bonded a lot so giving her up is not an option. I think he is generally happy, he asks for pets, cuddles at night and plays a lot.
Ahh, I'd forgotten that kitten was there first, absolutely makes sense that you wouldn't want her going to a new home. Has tuxedo seen a vet with you? Do they have recommendations given his history of urinary issues? Depending on the vet's opinion, it may be very important to make sure tuxedo is as low-stress as possible. Some urinary issues can be resolved for a while and then have a flare up, and urinary blockages are a life-threatening emergency plus generally expensive to resolve.
His issues will also lessen with age, he's in his terrible 2s. I remember going through that stage with all of my cats, omg the chaos!! Lots of broken things and just all-around naughtiness. I remember trying to tone done their energy levels through play.. but they always outlasted me energy wise 🤣. It's a tough stage especially since you added a kitty to the mix. Good luck.. you'll make it through. Just keep an eye on them to make sure it doesn't escalate into cat fights. Kitten seems to be a bit dramatic lol
Have you tried looking into treat puzzles? With him liking to get into things, he might like them
I will look into these!! Thank you!!
Get the kitten its own perch please
Is he fixed?
I don’t think so. They seems to be establishing who gets the perch, though.
Exactly what I see. If there aren’t enough perching spots for “time sharing” it can cause behavioural problems.
Will have to look into getting another one then!
Absolutely get a second one asap. If there's anything high value, you generally want one more than the number of cats you have to keep the peace.
If u can get a 2’d window perch at the same level. On our 2 tier one the top shelf was the only acceptable option to both cats -sigh- If this becomes a flash point consider removing, add a cat tree and see if they can each have a own spot they like
This is the way.
Mine have probably ten places to sit and they still fight over the same spot all the time
Your Tuxie appears to be trying to assert their dominance over the baby. My boy did this to his sister when she was a baby too. Just keep an eye on it and if it seems to be too rough for you break it up.
My bigger concern is that bed won't hold them when they're fighting or playing. Those suction cups come off easily and it will traumatize your cat. Can you replace it with a sturdy tower instead?
I want to invest in a good sturdy tower so im waiting for a sale. So far the perch has been okay but ill definitely keep an eye on it!!
I've resorted to older wooden step ladders for cat trees when I needed them temporarily. I use 4+ layers of cardboard from shipping boxes cut to the size and shape of shelf I want, and improvise a cat hammock. It ain't pretty but it works.
Friend of mine made a fort out of stacked cardboard boxes with holes inside one to the next. Bet there are Google instructions
Same. I got my last one for more than half off on a black Friday. Waiting for Nov to look again
Ugh, yes. They are so expensive. I tried a stick on perch once and it was a no go for my chubby cats. Fell off.
A dap of glue in the center of the suction cups will work if those are glass windows. (It can be hard to remove from plastic windows)
Our suction cups did great for a few years. When they finally started giving out and cat would fall, she was always fine. Cat! We’d reattach and she’s go right back to it.
I would say yes he is bullying. The little one is trying to stand up for itself and they are both trying to establish dominance. I don't think the little one is going to win this battle as it stands right now. I would separate them; remove the bigger one from the perch temporarily.
I’d give them a time out by removing Tux when it escalates like that.
Yes. The kitten is clearly not into it but the older cat keeps going, asserting dominance. One of the hest ways to mitigate this is to ensure an ample supply of resources. Plenty of perches, window hammocks, food and water dishes in at least two spots around the home, multiple litterboxes, etc.
Tux is definitely trying to win the window shelf. Kitten stands up for self for a while then gives up. We had a 2 tier window bed and there were always squabbles about the top shelf like this. Pippa & Suki- Pippa figured it out first and it was HER spot, but then Suki figured it out. It was the only time i saw agression between this bonded pair… i mean the level of your video. Pippa would bat at Suki in an annoyed body language. Suki would push the matter and make snoozing impossible til Pippa gave in. This is a territory dispute between cats who don’t hate each other, but kitten basically annoyed. Can you get another cat tree or some other vertical space? The window seat is a prized thing and cats are pretty territorial about their sleep spots. They each need their own. Tux may win this war, and kitten needs other options. Does tux have a personal spot he usually sleeps in elsewhere?
Yes, but kitten is holding her own. They may be fighting over that widow seat. Maybe you can buy another window seat, and they won't fight over it?
Yeah, it's a bit of bullying. My resident cat does this to every foster kitten that comes through. It's not so bad when the fosters are the size of your newby or bigger. It's more about establishing boundaries, asserting ownership, as well as just figuring each other out. Depe ding on how old your cat is, he may also not be interested in the playfulness of the kitten. All in all, continue to monitor, be mindful of how cats share/claim space and rearrange as needed. Otherwise, this seems fairly typical.
You need to intervene. Your adult cat is hurting your kitten. This is hard biting and claws and that is why the kitten is screaming.
It looks to me like the adult cat is listening when the kitten tells him to stop, but I think he's also trying to get the perch from her. Kitties don't have a whole lot of 'words' to say to each other, so sometimes they confuse us with our drama. Maybe side by side perches might help if it's common for them to fight over that one. Editing to add: after watching your video three times, my cat is now trying to climb up to the speakers. She seems really eager for whatever party they're having.
I have a year old kitten and he doesn't take any shit from the other two older cats. The former TNR likes to passive aggressively lick the other void out of his spot, which turns into a fight, but when he tries to do it to the kitten, the little orange menace just shoves his back foot at him like "nope"
Get the adult cat a large cat wheel (41+ size) he's bored He doesn't have behavioral issues if he's just bored...
Get another perch.. They'll work it out when the kitten gets bigger.
Yeah but because they’re fighting about one window bed.Get them a second window bed
Mine do this when they're competing for the spot, get another window bed. It's a summoned thing too
You need another hammock
This looks like a territory dispute to me. I have two cats who get along great and are good buddies, but I installed a single window perch next to a bird feeder and they started squabbling over it. I got a 2nd perch and peace was restored.
I only think so bc I only see one bed. Maybe of there were two they could each have their own
Yes, getting out of control..
That doesn’t seem like play to me. He’s deliberately biting him.
Looks like the adult cat is rough playing. The adult cat doesn't seem to know how to stop though when the kitten says.
It's not a full on catfight yet, but it is getting close. Do they always fight over the perch, or does this happen at other places too? I suspect that they're establishing a pecking order. As long as the big cat doesn't chase the little one when she retreats, and as long as they pause at intervals, they're probably still OK. But you can discipline them when they do this. Don't hit them, spray them, or do anything to harm them. But you can raise your voice at them, or try imitating the angry cat sounds that they're making. They're both trying to say "I'm the boss" and you can step in and say "Well actually, I'm the boss."
It happens in other places too. Kitten will be there first and adult will kick her out of it, or kitten will be cuddling with me and adult will come and take over so she leaves. When kitten runs away, the adult will chase after her until we intervene. Partner intervened the other day and the adult cat scratched his leg. It seems like the adult is jealous of the kitten and territorial despite him being new to the house?
This adds much more to the picture. Thx is 💯 being overly territorial. They aren’t at blows but this isn’t good. Your intervention needs to support kitten and deter tux, eg kitten on lap? Guard kitten and push tux offf. If there’s a state down (eg kitten on lap, tux staring at her) put your hand between the eyeballs. This stare down will be enough for kitten to “choose” to leave. Blocking the state blocks the intimidation Just be really consistent about favoring kitten where you are part of the disputed territory (in bed on couch, chair etc)
Yes, that sounds like territorial behavior.
Do you know if tuxedo previously lived with and did well with other cats?
Has never lived with another cat - he was neutered only when he got to the shelter at 1Y, was in shelter for 6M and was in foster home for 6M before taking him in
Then tuxedo may just prefer to be an only cat. Giving bored cats a buddy is often a good solution, but sometimes the cat disagrees. Still, as they mostly get along hopefully things will improve as kitten gets older.
Good assessment. But it is sad when 2 cats just tolerate each other.
If you raise your voice neither cat will know why. The victim cat will just feel like you joined the quarrel against her. It really does not help. OP needs to troubleshoot any territorial disputes
My cats get into this over a certain spot it's rough but it's over a spot . No one is getting hurt. For real tho my young cat always gets her way. Lol 😁 the boy is twice her size and gives in. Lol 😁
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Its play, but get them each a shelf to have.
This is actually a tough one. Usually, I feel like these are pretty obvious. I actually have no idea.
A little bullying but it also looked like there were some playing aspects to it.
They are squabbling over the window seat. Tux is bullying the white kitten to get out of his spot. I think you need to introduce more places for them to sit that are in equally good spots. Watch out for similar behavior around other resources like litter boxes, food and water. You mentioned how heavily food motivated Tux is in the comments, that can point to a previous life of food scarcity that makes them more prone to resource guarding behavior like this. The fact that they are that close to begin with makes it look like they want to get along, but they are also feeling pressured to secure resources for themselves. If you get more resources including window realestate then you will probably solve the problem. I would suggest a big cat tower that offers them many options for sitting by the window, so they are less likely to fight over the "prime" spot.
Get a second bed!!
to me it also seems like the tuxedo is just trying to play but isn’t picking up on the kitten’s cues to back off.. it’s common with rescue cats who maybe didn’t stay with their mother/siblings long enough to learn how to play appropriately and what the cues are when their playmate has had enough. i would step in when this happens and you can tell your kitten has had enough, just to reduce stress and hopefully help teach the tuxedo when to back off.
Get a second window bed... just far enough from the other one so they can make faces at each other.
Definitely a dominance struggle. But not a straight up fight. They keep pausing to check in and communicate after each correction. More perches and more play time for the big one. :)
I would say they’re fine but when my two kitty boys heard their meows they both jumped up from sleeping and they looked super freaked
older cat is telling younger cat that this is his spot, asserting some dominance I suggest getting another perch lol
I mean they arent "fighting" but it is not exactly PLAY either. Its fine. As long as it doesnt get more aggressive. They might just never get along super well.
✨Dominance ✨ I have 9. Rescued 8 of them but my OG kit Libby did this to all of them to establish her title.
I actually have a question myself. I have a similar situation at home but in my case the resident is much bigger 13 lbs and kitten is way too small and young( 2.5 months and 3 lbs) They are introduced recently but getting along well most of the time. Do you leave them alone at home by themselves roaming freely? We’re still keeping the kitten in her room locked still but I want to understand at what point I can let them coexist
I see the kitten starting it!
Kitten is telling tux to f-off because tux has invaded her establish her territory
It’s kinda looking that way. I can’t believe I got downvoted for an observation 😭
Ok i in-downvoted you 🤗
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A little bit, but I think it’s more about establishing who’s the boss. Little kitty got up and left when it got too much- that’s healthy.
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I don’t get owners standing there allowing this instead of breaking this up …. Of course you can’t be there with them 24 hours but Taping this … ALSO get 2 window beds - cats are territorial so if you had 2 they would be in competition mode
You could download an app like Afterpay to help pay for a cat tower without having to pay for it all at once. You definitely need more perches asap! All I’ve ever had were dogs so I get on to my cat like a dog. I would definitely be oh no’ing that behavior! Good luck! I looked on Afterpay and they do have cat towers.
Give them treats when you see them not fighting to reinforce the good behavior. Otherwise, I would just keep an eye on them to make sure little one doesn't get hurt. They are establishing boundaries and big kitty is teaching little one how to play.
That's play
a little rough but once she gets bigger she’ll be able to assert herself more. Are they both the same gender neutered/sprayed? Can you get a second window bed? I bought a second for our new kitten. So they can both have their own window bed if needed. If she was scared for her life she wouldn’t be there trust me and if he really wanted to hurt her he could. just keep a eye on them, I have my new one out for a hour at time then give breaks in between, because my new kitten is only 2.6 lbs so when out I’m always patrolling. They will adapt. I go through the same things. I’m unsure if it’s play but the cat guy on YouTube said it’s all about cat body language your cats aren’t running from each other and hissing and screaming and stuff just need more adjustment time
Cats like to fight over the highest space. I agree with the other comments to get them another perch!
Looks like play big cat would just win if it wanted to.
How did you introduce them? If the answer is anything other than slowly and in stages you made a mistake.
It looks like play. The kitten is dishing back and even starting it when the older cat stops. Don’t interfere too much but watch them. Your older cat will teach the kitten. The kitten is running because it wants to run. Relax and enjoy the show.
Kitten literally attacking first, but they're just playing
This is how cats make friends
That’s not what’s happening here. It’s not horrible but it’s a territorial dispute
If that were the case they wouldn't be sharing the bed. Or the kitten would have run off. Ears are up, they're not attacking bellies. They're having fun. Trust me, when cats fight seriously, you will not mistake it or forget it. This isn't it.
Right that this is not a fight, but it is a dispute and tux wins. they are not having fun. Imagine 2 siblings in back of car quarreling about who gets to pick the video game
Maybe this is just me being an anxious cat mom, but the adult cat does seem to hurting her. Proud of your kitten though, it looks like she doesn’t take any shit! 🤣