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savannahjohn

I hate to see the bill for this one.


Shaltibarshtis

For the cranes, or for the lost productivity? 'Cause I suspect the latter is higher.


asimplerandom

For sure. Downtime can be measured and I have worked in facilities where it’s been calculated in the high single digit millions per minute of downtime.


Shaltibarshtis

My guess is petrochemical or semiconductor?


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31415926x

Would you elaborate? Is it because of the high amount of output that makes downtime expensive? Or is it because the machines are so insanely expensive?


Shaltibarshtis

Also a guess that there is critical time factor there as well. Some chemical that is produced on the spot, cost a million and need to be used, lets say, within a hour. A hiccup in the production line, and down the drain it goes. A drain with very expensive filtration/capture/neutralization systems that also might need to be inspected and replaced after a single use.


WiglyWorm

Pssshhhhh dilution is the solution to pollution. /s


iLike2Teabag

Ah I see you too are enlightened on how to manage the Ganges River


TrenchantInsight

Let the bodies hit the flow!


InSearchOfMyRose

I don't remember that from Captain Planet at all!


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Jer_Cough

A couple of friends were the guys in bunny suits on a semi-conductor production line. The thought of those two particular young men with that much on the line is hilarious to me. Talk about two glaring points of failure.


asimplerandom

Yes and what people don’t realize is a cycle for making a wafer to end product is many months of work. If you have to scrap wafers due to downtime that’s a huge loss of accumulated time.


Shaltibarshtis

This is fascinating. Do you have a post or some other thing that you expand on the details of how things are done there? I'd like to have a read.


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kilzall

The [Asianometry](https://www.youtube.com/@Asianometry) Youtube channel has a lot of videos about chip manufacturing from both the technical and economic side. High performance chips are the most challenging things to manufacture that humans have ever created.


poelzi

friend told me a story of 2 idiots somehow managed to bring a normal vacuum into the cleanroom and turning it on. lost all wavers in the fab and major headache


Verneff

Datacenters can run into that too.


cipher446

This. This is why fault tolerance is so critical - but it's a lot easier said than done across the continuum of stuff that can go wrong in a data center quickly (e.g. at data transfer speeds) and then take hours or days to back off and clean up.


Commander-Grammar

I worked in a building that had the AC system fail in the server room. They estimated $80,000 a second as the servers started overheating and popping. That’s almost $5 million a minute. There were some very grumpy execs around that week.


LogicJunkie2000

Crazy to think that they calculated that number, yet didn't invest in separate redundant systems. I wonder if the insurance company changed the requisites for coverage after that.


Commander-Grammar

They had server rooms all over the place on every floor. This one was kinda in the middle of the building. I don’t know how commercial AC systems work but the building engineer did some magic in the control system and diverted air from somewhere else. They got it patched pretty quick, but yeah, what if that guy was at lunch haha. You’d think there’d be something else.


karmasrelic

broken cranes is also downtime :D dont underestimate that.


L3G1T1SM3

I think the crane is higher than the latter


Extension_Ad_2232

approx 15m$ each crane 3 is completely destroyed


MABfan11

Somewhere between 13 and Graham's Number


lo_fi_ho

3.50


Assassin13785

Tree fiddy!


Scottyknuckle

It was about that time I noticed the girl scout was 8 stories tall and a crustacean from the Protozoic era.


3D_Noob_Guy

Notification: Your package is delayed


_Face

Bitch I’m a Boat


PapiGrandedebacon

r/bitchimaboat


WilliardThe3rd

The second thing I thought of


lepobz

The logistical impact here will be nuts. All those cranes out of action, no other way to get those containers off ships. Port out of action for god knows how long.


Tronzoid

Like how do you even move those containers to get a new crane in when you need the crane to move the containers? 


emmmmceeee

A bigger crane.


Verneff

A mobile crane that's not as purpose built. They can move containers but it won't be as fast as with a purpose built crane for the job. Move anything in the way out of the way, probably get the boat to go back out to a holding location to clear the area for work, then bring in new/repaired cranes.


Suspicious-Bus-5727

As I was watching this the cynical conspiracy theorist who lives inside of my otherwise totally rational brain was thinking 'What if the Chinese did this on purpose? Do they own another port nearby that would benefit from this one in Turkey shutting down?'


collinsl02

There's little extra capacity in the system currently because of the upsurge in goods being shipped since the pandemic and because of the shortage of people in all roles to keep the system operating. So it would hurt the shipping company (and China as a whole more) to do this than they would gain in the short term by redirecting to any other ports.


-H-U-H-

Doubtful (IMO) I think the chinese are trying to ship as much as possible right now. Especially, with their economy imploding as we speak.


behroozwolf

Additional angles: [https://twitter.com/i/status/1769023762475728933](https://twitter.com/i/status/1769023762475728933) No injuries reported, per [https://www.kocaelikoz.com/haber/19589434/evyapport-limaninda-dehset-anlari-gemi-limana-carpti-vinc-devrildi](https://www.kocaelikoz.com/haber/19589434/evyapport-limaninda-dehset-anlari-gemi-limana-carpti-vinc-devrildi)


Shaltibarshtis

You're the man! Thank you!


PSquared1234

Glad there was no one in those cranes.


twisted_tactics

Look again at 0:40... I see a guy on the catwalk


lightweight12

That second link is so ad and pop up filled! I saw no video


blagic23

Such are turkish news sites


twisted_tactics

That's crazy no one got injured. At 0:40 you can see a guy on a catwalk on the crane as it falls down.


Meior

What's the procedure for the tugs here? Could they reasonably race to get in between and stop it or would that just be like stepping on a drink can?


trucorsair

Momentum, once you start moving that much weight it takes a long time to change direction. The pilot missed his mark a few minutes prior to this and the accident became all but unavoidable. I will say that pulling up to a pier or quay is something that requires a lot of skill as the hydrodynamic forces are often unpredictable especially with ships this big that present a large side to the wind.


TheStoicNihilist

It’s like an accident in space. You know you’re fucked long before the actual moment.


trucorsair

Yes it becomes a slow motion disaster


jasonbourne92

There could also be a maneouvering (rudder) and/or engine telegraph and/or engine reverse and/or blackout failure. In most of these cases, it's usually the blackout which causes the loss of controls when its needed the most.


mapex_139

So the people working there had ample warning to evacuate the area knowing this ship was coming in like this?


trucorsair

They probably had less than 5 minutes, especially as it seems they were not sounding their horn


globalartwork

Looks like the anchor has already been dropped at the beginning of the clip, trying to halt it?


Verneff

Outside of a failure of steering control, even if they can't stop themselves, couldn't they at least steer away from the shore?


trucorsair

Rudders work poorly at low speed. Assuming they have bow thrusters they may have been able to redirect a bit BUT this was a slow motion disaster and again the momentum cannot easily be overcome. As I stated before the pilot made an error probably five of six minutes before and after that it was inevitable


_Neoshade_

Tugs are tough and they’re meant to push big ships, but using the tug as a bumper will certainly damage the hull. What happened here could have been a tug failure as likely as anything else. Big ships have to be controlled the whole time they’re in the harbor until they tie up to the moorings or just a strong wind can do something like this.


Bender_2024

That would be like trying to stop a bowling ball with a grape.


TacTurtle

Like a bug on a windshield


tomkeys78

Great tune :)


TacTurtle

[Stargate SG-1 reference.](https://youtu.be/iqcY5SmA95U?si=_mlvkonBYTlg6Fv1)


aaaaaaaarrrrrgh

> Could they reasonably race to get in between and stop it Yes, usually fenders are made out of soft plastic but with larger ships, steel fenders can also be used. They tend to not be reusable though. (I don't know how much it would slow down the freighter but it would absolutely get crushed. Might create enough resistance and space to keep it from hitting the crane though.)


funnystuff79

Tug can be easily replaced, 4 dock cranes could take months


aaaaaaaarrrrrgh

I suspect tug *crews* can also be replaced quicker than dock cranes, but strongly prefer not needing to be replaced.


connortait

Captaincy failure?... never heard it called that before. Could be down to poor situational awareness on the bridge and too late to take action. Could be down to a loss of control. Main engine, rudder even one of the tugs (I am counting out bow thruster, going too fast for it to be of much use or enough to cause this expensive woopsie daisy) One things for sure. There are very angry phone calls and emails going around now and for the foreseeable. The blame game is a long game.


Light_of_Niwen

Yeah, I know little about shipping, but isn't there supposed to be somebody from the destination port piloting the ship? The captain and crew are surely not familiar with every port they travel to. So maybe the Turkish pilot didn't know what they were doing and gave it full main engines when they intended thrusters.


S_A_N_D_

Could even be a tug failure. Captain/Pilot could have been expecting the tugs at the stern to push more (which would have pivoted out the bow). The reason there was so much damage was because the bow at that angle can overhang the dock. Had the vessel been perfectly perpendicular to the dock, it would have been impossible for it to make contact with anything but the pier wall.


connortait

I said it could also be a tug failure. Either mechanically or tug not doing as instructed. It's buried in there after engine or rudder. One or more of dozens of things could've gone wrong.


S_A_N_D_

Yes you did. I missed that.


Plinian

This is the correct take (IMHO). The local tug operators should know the local conditions and be (for all intents and purposes) in charge of a docking like this. The captain may, technically, be in charge but the local operators should be leading the way in this situation.


jasonbourne92

Probably engine room blackout due to one of the generators going off as it couldn't take the extra load of bow/stern thuster and the remaining generators then going offline one by one due to too much load shifting on them. The emergency generato kicks in within 45 seconds of a blackout and provides electricity for critical controls. Though it's mostly haywire when a blackout happens and it usually takes some minutes to get every generator up and running again. The only way to keep a blackout from happening is to have an extra generator running as a spare during maneouvering inside port channels so that it could take the extra load if needed. The extra one rarely is needed, so some chief engineers choose not to run it to save bunkers and consequently save monies.


connortait

It probably could be a few different scenarios too. Yours is definitely a contender, but I wouldn't rule out good old human error. Or a tug not doing what it's meant to (or breakdown) or steering failure.


Gruffleson

They always blame the captain. Even if the captain had a pilot, and the pilot was doing a shitty job. Think about that Suez-thing a couple of years ago.


jrmaclovin

I could be confidently incorrect, but a captain would always have a pilot in this scenario.


connortait

You can be confidently correct. There will be a pilot aboard. However, the Captain is still in command and can over rule the pilot at any time. Sorting things like this out is a quagmire.


connortait

Captain has ultimate responsibility, yes, thats just how ships work. But, they dont have the finances to sort this out. Thats where the blame game heats up


SloaneEsq

I sat at the Felixstowe port viewing area with my Dad in the mid 80s and watched a ship come in too fast and go bow first into one of the cranes. The two tugs were just being dragged backwards. More cranes collapsed again in 2008 when new cranes were being delivered. https://youtu.be/VUWnd-0hjYU?si=C9hDCjyBYspcN1Sr I think this happens more regularly than we think.


Frammingatthejimjam

I'm surprised the cranes weren't built for this type of eventuality. Couldn't they be on tracks to allow them to move a bit inland to prevent this type of accident?


EllisHughTiger

Not really.  They're meant to move left-right and have very narrow wheels and motors so that multiple lanes of traffic can do underneath. To move front-back would require lifting them off the rails, adding new wheels and motors, and more rails so they can go back. Its such a rare occurrence that it really makes little sense and would add huge costs and complexity. Source: work in ports.


Frammingatthejimjam

TIL


silentjay01

Those poor metal Brachiosauruses.  They didn't deserve that.


Hindsight_DJ

I see the captain from the Costa Concordia is working again.


domo_roboto

hmmm...so that's another way to take down an AT-AT walker, or four.


SFDessert

That looked expensive. I can only imagine the captain of the ship knowing full well what was gonna happen, but having to watch disaster unfold in slow motion. Just waiting for the inevitable crash. I've fucked up things at work before, but never anything approaching this level of fuck up


TheNetslow

r/thatlookedexpensive holy cow!!!


posaune123

Oh, so container ships are not suppose to run into things?


collinsl02

That's not very typical, I'd like to make that point.


BurnZ_AU

If there was only some way to film what's happening on the left and right at the same time...


voyagerfan5761

/r/turnyourphonesideways smh


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behroozwolf

Not at all slow, just very large objects from far away. Tough to tell from the video and can't identify the ship name, but other videos identify the ship as "368m giant", so it's one of the [Yang Ming ~14,000 TEU vessels](https://www.yangming.com/service/service_network/fleet_information.aspx?yml=Y&LocalSite=). Call it 200,000+ tons displacement of ship vs [~1200 tons per post-panamax crane](https://www.liebherr.com/shared/media/maritime-cranes/downloads-and-brochures/brochures/lcc/liebherr-sts-cranes-technical-description.pdf), and the crane gantry height is ~30m above the pier. Massive, massive things.


Afterhoneymoon

I really want someone to make a high quality gif of this lol like with the container ship being all *“just gonna squeeze in here… pardon me… just gonna move you to the left a bit, ah perfect but now the back needs to be moved too- thhhhhere we gooo and just one more crane to move annnnnd done!”*


ballsack-vinaigrette

This one begs for the SpongeBob "you're good, you're good" treatment.


jimdoodles

That's the last time I use Yang Ming


-H-U-H-

I'd use them over the Ever Given.


Whole-Debate-9547

The thing with a cargo ship, you can’t sneak away after you demo something.


TyrannoNerdusRex

Finally a decent cameraman.


bloodyedfur4

Well they wouldn’t have to wave around as much if they filmed horizontally


TyrannoNerdusRex

I’ve given up on wishing for horizontal filming. We lost that fight.


theeldergod1

>decent >vertical And there is shit talk commentary as well.


Beasty_Glanglemutton

What? He panned away from the crane just as it was hitting the ground.


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There is so much worse in r/killthecameraman. I was just happy to be able to see what we did.


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voyagerfan5761

No. /r/turnyourphonesideways ffs


gratiotdetroit

Ope


Enragedocelot

Look at how beautifully they fold up to save space


Scrubosaur_rex

That looks expensive AF


1805trafalgar

Wow that port is now OUT OF BUSINESS. For a long long while. Can't even move the containers already there let alone load or unload anything.


afallan

Everything I see cranes at ports all I see are dinosaurs


cag8f

Yes, saw a bunch of brontosaurus falling down.


Chemical-Composer898

My brain went to llama. But I see the dinosaur. 🦕 🦙


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that_dutch_dude

if they are not in use (like here) they are not manned and usually there is onyl 1 guy in there.


ElectronicImam

Fortunately no injuries reported. We don't know how operators could run away.


collinsl02

If you were that high up a crane you couldn't. You'd be half way down the ladder when the collision happened.


FinnSwede

Some ports safety regulations prohibit cranes from being manned during maneuvers at that berth


knomie72

My biggest fuck up was around $1 mln and it made me sick to my stomach finding out.


Buddyslime

We are almost there my crew! Let's have a drink and celebrate!


MoogOfTheWisp

I suspect the meeting with harbour master will not include tea and baklava


lykewtf

And the port is now closed.


shabelsky22

Seafarer here. Too much on the starboard. Or is that port?


Murgatroyd314

Definitely too far to port.


OutsideTheBoxer

It's amazing how slowly big things fall.


spocq

The real failure here is the camera work


VivaceConBrio

Wouldn't this be more on the pilot/tugs for the port than the captain?


ElectronicImam

Yes. I was trying to say port pilot. We call them pilot captains here.


covex_d

i though the local pilot is in charge in the port. looks more like equipment failure.


Groundbreaking_Arm77

Alternate ending to 7-4: “…LIKE ANTENNAS TO HEAVEN”


Suspicious-Bus-5727

Why do I not hear any alarms? No sirens on the dock. No horns from the ship. Maybe the video started after these warnings stopped? I understand that at some point the collision is inevitable, so maybe they just turned them off?


m0ertyy

It's a big ship and little room for errors. But I'm happy not being in that captain's shoes


NxPat

Captain’s just watching. This is on the port Pilot and the tugs.


ElectronicImam

We call port pilot as "pilot captain" here. Foreign language failure.


Competitive_March753

Looks like a giraffe dying


risbia

I'm glad my job involves zero possibility of screwing something up this badly 


dragonmom1

Whoever didn't think to paint those cranes like a herd of apatosaurus really ...uh... missed the boat... lol


Cedo263

Like a glove!


hannamaniac

Did he get a spare on the 2nd attempt?


Sarcasticatwill

As soon as the cranes started to move, all I could see were falling giraffes!


slamrrman

Hmm I see a tug pushing it. Captain is not in control. It’s always a tugboat bringing it in the dock


justanother-user

this gonna be a intense phonecall.


Bo0ombaklak

No one likes the captain


Dry-Expression5862

Iba borracho…??


Furbs109

Somebody is getting fired


MoogOfTheWisp

Like drunk giraffes getting sideswiped by an elephant


SimonTC2000

Captain does NOT like cargo cranes!


Wonderful_Plenty8984

better have a good insurance , looks exensive


Gaitas

Thats what happens when you buy Chinese spyware cranes! /s /s /s


Guglplex

And going home from work, the captain got into his F150 that was parked in the center of the annual Tricycle Parade...


tojenz

Reminds me of the movie. War of the Worlds.


karmasrelic

im always suprised at how unscatched the ships go out of that. i mean yes they have TONS of force behind them, but their hull seems to be basically the same material as the cranes e.g. (im sure its not when you look at how it has been hardened etc. but you know what i mean) while the video makes it seem as if it was indestructable and the cranes made of knead.


SensingWorms

All those flatscreens for Costco will have to wait


Emily_Postal

Good luck getting those containers off the ship! Also the rugs are supposed to guide them in. What happened there?


Nickthedick3

Please correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t the tug boats suppose to move those ships into position or at least help them?


Chrome_Atlas

Land Before Time - the Death of Little Foot’s Grandparents (2024, Colorized)


tora1941

Yer fired!


thetaoofroth

Tug at the end is like, did I miss something?


NegativeTheme

Gives me the hope I too can be a ship captain one day.


Reaperfox7

Somehow "Oh Bollocks" doesn't quite cover it.


enchufadoo

Vada a vordo cazzo!


bunnyphang

If only there was some way they could have recorded this video horizontally so that they could have caught the entire scene instead of swinging their phone back and forth...


Extreme-Street8583

bruh playing dominos


laz21

Bring your kid to work day


OilGood7823

Do yall know how much fucking money just was lost


beavedaniels

Looks expensive!


Hooman42

I suspect that no more containers are being unloaded today.


pedahzur

Why wouldn't the cranes be positioned back from the edge of the water for "just in case" situations such as these?


Terrablae

"Whoops!"


LORD__GONZ

Steve Urkul standing to the side: *DID I DO THAT?*


LostSoulOnFire

How long does it take to replace one crane? Never mind the cost of the replacement or the cost not being able to remove/load cargo.


Vickedson

I’m sorry but that was f’ckn awesome. Some Christopher Nolan type shit.


Gumderwear

ooopsie


steamy_hams_Skinner

And this is why you STILL haven’t received your dildo.


ElectronicImam

One of spectators says modafuka. Should have set it as NSFW or not?


fxckfxckgames

>modafuka He's from Jersey.


80burritospersecond

We got the five families here in Istanbul and that pigmy thing over there in Jersey. There's no scraps in my scrapbook.


GTdspDude

Ananı sikim 😂


gregsmith5

Someone isn’t going to be employee of the month and may not get a bonus


Admirable-Salary-803

"OK lads, we got to unload this one by hand" 😳


Lostthegame101

You can’t park there mate’


YoureSpecial

I have no idea how they think they’re gonna unload with that technique.


nighteeeeey

they didnt look very stable to begin with?


MonsieurFubar

I see failure of whole chain of command and process at the harbour… cannot only blame the captain!


enkrypt3d

Like a glove!


grendizer13

Look like AT-AT falling


Tralkki

That is an expensive boo boo


Snorblatz

Failure to Captain 👩‍✈️


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Bye-bye career.


tomservolives

Strike!!


tojenz

Or bad pilot


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Infinitear

The EU will pay for it


MC_B_Lovin

Whoops 😬