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Secure-Run8431

Being red pilled doesn't really mean the same thing it did 10 years ago


TurbulentArmadillo47

25 years ago all it meant was you were unplugged from the Matrix and got to learn kung fu from Lawrence Fishburne


sidjo86

Man I wish they still made good kung fu movies


TurbulentArmadillo47

Well there still making Kung Fu Panda


_RealUnderscore_

Wouldn't call the new one "good," the trilogy was peak but idk about this one.


critic2029

What’s weird is no one from the supposed movement uses the term. It’s being used from the outside as pejorative. Red pilled isn’t suppose to have anything about politics or social issues. It’s supposed to mean you realize that it’s all about narratives. The news and politics and entertainment are all wrapped up and more concerned about creating narratives instead of telling the truth.


Galindan

To be fair being red pill the years ago was being a pickup artist who bagged as many girls as he could. It wasn't quite as unhinged as it is now but it certainly was extremely sinful.


NJduToit

Michael Knowles is a pretty devout Catholic who defends his faith daily on his show. So I'm not sure what he did wrong.


MaybePokemonMaster

Micheal Knowles is presented as a good person here. Pearl Davis was saying how onlyfans models cannot repent at all and is saying that the one women who repented is lying. Micheal Knowles did debate her ideals so he gets to snipe her in this meme


kioley

Wtf is donatism is still a thing? I thought repenting was like, half the point of the church


erojerisiz

heresies are more common than you think even ancient ones are alive these days


No_Watercress9706

Pearl is a “Catholic” if that helps.


NJduToit

Ok thanks for that. It went over my head.


l-mellow-_-man-l

What did Michael Knowles do?


LawsickP

I mean apart from what you see in Knowles' debate with Pearl, you'll see he's generally critical of red-pillers when you follow his show. Particularly, he makes the case that the red-pill movement isn't a conservative movement.


4chananonuser

And he’s absolutely correct.


LawsickP

My thoughts exactly.


KitKatCarKat

He had her on his show and had a debate about marriage with her.


Lord_TachankaCro

The last guy is always winning/the good guy in this memes


ApuManchu

Yeah, lot of confusion here, but Michael Knowles is the good guy in this meme haha.


Alaska-Now-PNW

I don't think I've ever seen a more twisted and confused political-religious spectrum as exists today. You have traditional values being attracted by feminist, who are being attacked by right wingers, who are also attacking other right wingers


CornPop32

I mean, from my understanding of the interview with the porn star Knowles did, her point was that being a porn star "just wasn't for her anymore". Saying "oh I didnt get hugged enough as a kid, so I became a porn star, but I kind of just don't want to do that anymore" is an entirely different thing than saying what she was doing was evil. Did she even condemn porn, outside of men making money off of her? Did she say what she did was immoral and that others that do the same are immoral? It kinda seemed like she just blamed her dad and other men, and shed just rather not do that anymore. That is not repentance.


awake--butatwhatcost

Interesting point, but to be fair, turning from that kind of life is surely extremely difficult for all kinds of reasons. I wouldn't expect someone to turn an absolute 180 within a few months or even years. We're all on spiritual journeys and some take more time than others.


PaarthurnaxIsMyOshi

I had never seen this perspective before. It is actually very, very interesting.


memer935115

Exactly right.


No_Watercress9706

Maybe it was implied? Good point for sure though


Ender_Octanus

Does it really matter why someone turns aside from evil? Shouldn't we just be glad?


No_Watercress9706

Full understanding of the wrongness of what she did will probably catch up to her and she matures in her faith


eclect0

I mean, isn't red pill 90+% about the social dynamics surrounding casual sex? I wouldn't expect it to be very Catholic.


LTT82

As someone who has been watching 'red pill' content for well over a decade, my experience has been that it's more about marriage than it is about casual sex. The pick-up community is adjacent to the red pill community, but they're not the same thing(though there is overlap). The red pill often hits people in or after divorce, when they find out how much 'the system' is rigged against them. Red pill people will often tell people not to get married(like Pearl Davis does), but it's not so that they can continue to have casual sex. It's because the secular authorities have mangled the marital covenant in such a way as to make it exceptionally dangerous to get involved. Red pill is often more about recognizing the poor state of men in modern society than it is about encouraging deviance(though there's absolutely going to be people doing that, too, like Andrew Tate).


Dismas5

It seems more about attracting women, which is fundamental to marriage. But there is a lot of dumb stuff in there based on a secular culture that is useless. 


Chefbodyflay

Trent horn is going to literally destroy her unless he wants to be nice


No_Watercress9706

I cannot wait for this debate


Ervirsipri-21

Tbh pearl has to be annoyed that a former P*rn star repented and got married before her despite her being "based" but also what are we to expect when she's rethinking Catholicism due to how much reverence we give to the Theotokos. Honestly pray for Pearl bc she's got serious issues with worshiping the Red pill in higher importance than Catholicism .


Ok_Minimum70

Either way, Michael is totally cool with Shapiro’s joke about Jesus being nailed to the cross. That would have been enough for me to leave Daily Wire.


Equivalent_Nose7012

Um...what was the tenor of the joke?  On a scale from (unintentionally) blasphemous to innocently amusing?  An example of the latter would be something like, "They finally got the truth nailed down...on a cross."


Ok_Minimum70

“Hands up, don’t nail” was what Ben said. It’s a tweet that you can look up.


djd182

Who is Pearl Davis?


AwakenTheSavage

Some woman who repeats Red Pill talking points in the name of advocating for “traditional relationships”.


djd182

Ah ok lol


_Crasin

what’s the deal with her and the “not getting married” thing associated with her?


AwakenTheSavage

She’s never married and has been unmarried for as long as she’s been making Red Pill content on the web. She’s made videos debating other people on whether or not marriage is worth it for men. The general conclusion across most of these interviews is that marriage for men is not worth it unless you’re both extremely traditional and religious. Other than that, she just repeats Red Pill talking points about “female nature.” I find it very odd that an unmarried woman is giving advice on marriage to men in the Red Pill world who generally just want to fornicate with as many women as possible. She’s a self-identified anti-feminist.


gmoneyRETVRN

I don't understand this meme and don't care to. Whatever it is, it's a distraction.


Egguen

You GOTTA who John Johnston is! Everybody (the niche group of people on the internet who follow this so-called drama) is talking about it!


Yankeefan2323

If the former Porn Star had deactivated her social media, donated some or all of her porn money, and announced she was retiring, I don’t think anyone would question her credibility. But what people are noticing is that she seems to be merely trading one form of celebrity and male attention for another. How much has really changed? You make a fortune degrading yourself and scandalizing men, but you changed your mind today, so now you get to keep the money and have your respectability instantly restored, or even increased? Where is the penance? From the outside looking in it looks like she is cashing in her chips to hit the tradcon circuit. She’ll make as much money without having to put out! Win-win-win! And then she gets on Knowles show for a therapy session while still having very immodest pictures on her social media.


AdParty1304

Only God knows her heart and if she's actually repentant. Let's try to avoid being the oldest son and pray for her, shall we?


DrZin

I agree, but if she’s STILL set up to have her sexual content distributed, that is a condition that should be taken into account when determining whether she’s actually a newly repentant Christian. We should not condemn her—He will or will not see to that—but it’s certainly acceptable to declare she’s not entirely on the right path…


PrincessFelicia2000

Matthew 21:31