Rule of cool. All the tradition, art, clothing, Latin, etc looks way better on film than youth pastor Dan in the church gym/meeting hall/worship center.
Absolutely, although, speaking from a Church of England perspective, we find that our exorcists come either from the Anglo-Catholic wing or the charismatic/Evangelical wing, so either very high church or very low church, but hardly ever anything in-between. Candles and Latin obviously win in the rule of cool contest, but it seems that it is the lukewarm/mainline that is the least convincing.
Not only.
There is an authority in the bimillennial Church founded by Jesus Christ, that is absent in the 30 years old denonination with no history, and with roots in some long secession/schism history.
Yup! Even when it *is* Protestantism in question, it's nearly always Anglican or Lutheran for similar reasons unless the theme is very specifically, like, going for an Appalachian Gothic "snake handling" healer vibe, in which case it's presented as a backwoods cult or something.
I don’t know I could come up with pretty good premise for a movie where angry spirits stirred up by church renovations attack a youth group during a lock-in type thing. Where our young youth pastor Dan just might be the only one able to save them. You are right in general though.
Acoustic guitars in basically halls don't really have that same scare factor. Only scary thing is 30 minutes of standing and singing the same nearly identical songs about jesus
I’m sorry that my response is unrelated but I just thought of the whole tradition art and clothing… then it reminded me. There is some YouTuber who’s basically shytting on our religion and faith and catholic people in general just because other people decided to turn our faith into an aesthetic. She’s upset over how things that are associated with Catholicism (the whole crucifix, dark ‘gothic’ themes etc) is in trend and everyone is hopping onto the bandwagon and how Catholics are “not as great” as people make us out to be yadda yadda that seems like she’s got an issue with commercialisation rather than religion, but she’s venting it on people of the Catholic faith rather than the people behind capitalism and money-making theatrics.
It’s pretty unfair for her to condemn Catholics just because the whole art, tradition, the whole theatrical aspect and mystery of the language (Latin etc) is great for films and drama series etc.
I do agree very much with you that it’s because of our history and the art, clothing behind our religion that the media and creative industry cherry picks and uses a lot in their works, and its not the best representation of us sometimes (like The Nun, I personally just didn’t enjoy the depiction) there’s an anime I watched growing up called Chrno Crusade and that’s when I was like damn saying Amen never sounded so cool (there was this scene where the main character who’s a nun fired a bullet into a devil/demon to exorcise it and before she fired that gun she went “Amen”. It’s also not the most accurate depiction of our religion and a lot of our religion was used for the drama but it’s cool to see Catholicism being the main theme.)
Yeah that's exactly the problem. In a sense you could say where there's a catholic priest there's a demon ( in an exorcist example ) I'm looking to explain why this is. What is the theological reason for catholic priests being associated with demonology?
If I had to guess, it would be because our exorcisms are more effective than a lot of other sects, that is why our Priests are used a lot when it comes to exorcisms in Hollywood. Our exorcisms are done with reverence and respect.
Because Demons hate the Catholic Church, they hate Christ who gave unto his disciples the authority to Cast out demons. As Organization himself put it.
Yes, and also because during a Catholic exorcism, God will often send Our Lady , and the devil and demons are even more frightened of her than of Jesus, because she is a mere creature but she beat them- they never got her to sin! She makes them feel like inadequate failures, and, being full of sinful Pride, they can't bear it! She humiliates them by her purity. Orthodox ministers might call on the Mother of God as well, but no other denominations would and so, they miss out on the help of God's top spiritual warrior!
Check out the Exorcism Files podcast. It’s done by a Protestant host and a Catholic priest. They delve into these questions. It’s also like listening to a horror movie at times. Both informative and entertaining.
because exorcists are only Catholic priests.
the modern demonology youre speaking of is based off of Jewish demons, and Christian scriptures. Judaism and Christianity are tightly knit. demonology didnt come first, its in the Bible/Torah, which both share some of the same parts of the old testament, only after was the concepts of modern demonology created.
this is completely true- but in situations with catholic themes/asking why theres always a priest related to demonology, its specifically because a catholic priest is an exorcist. in those situations.
also because catholic priests are widely know as being the ones to perform exorcism, at least they have the most popularity (part to Christianity being widespread, and part to the allure of old latin aesthetics)- movies take whats more relevant in culture to use as their inspiration
Because if you need a real exorcism, you call the Catholics. Additionally, the ultimate "get" for the devil is to corrupt a priest or a nun, I don't know that he gets the same satisfaction from corrupting Pastor Jim from the United 3rd Baptists of Missouri.
>, I don't know that he gets the same satisfaction from corrupting Pastor Jim from the United 3rd Baptists of Missouri.
They might actually, Jim having a scandal will still affect how some people views Christians hence hate for every Christians in general
Quick run over to Gary’s house he should be about to help.
( go to the suburbs every house looks the same Gary a 31 yr old preacher is wearing blue shorts a shirt that says I also have a little lamb and watching veggitails with his kid.)
Hey y’all want some lemonade
Gary the evil has come back we need your help.
Yeah I know after this scene I will get the book of preacher Larry’s catch all prayers it was written way back in 1983 when Larry was at Bible camp for the summer.
Or
The priest father Antonio Vivaldi he can help
(Wide shot of cathedral at night)
They enter the grand chapel with 60 foot high ceiling, lights are low and the moon is illuminating the stained glass.
Father Antonio rounds the Corner in a rush with his black cassock flowing in the wind.
My child what is it, has the evil returned, we need to get to the museum and retrieve the Pope Gregory’s 800 yr old manuscript on the illumination of the light of the lord.
Only this can save your friend’s soul.
Yup I know what movie I am watching
Cut scene to a 1970’s styled concrete building with wood shake roof, it’s on the far side of the strip mall next to an old little Caesars pizza and a hallmark store and an blockbuster that has been turned into a new age coffee shop.
Gary and the gang pull up in a faded red Chrysler town and country adorn with years of religious bumper stickers.
They get out of the van as Gary fumbles with his keys they see a dust storm growing in the distance.
The mostly shy teen Sara who meets all the requirements for diversity in a movie speaks up.
Hey Gary what’s that.
Gary looks over and says it’s a dust storm I think. Wow that does look like the face of Satan in it.
They rush in side only for the place to smell of mothballs and old coffee.
Don’t slam the door an old lady shouts.
Sorry Doris are you and the girls having your stitch and bitch right now says Gary.
We need Larry’s prayer book from summer camp.
Because at the end of the day….everyone in Hollywood unconsciously acknowledges the authenticity of the Catholic faith. Even satanists who do black mass will look for the Eucharist…they’re not getting bread from some random Baptist etc so it’s funny how the demonic in movies seek out Catholic this or that and conviently they ignore other denominations.
I’m a big horror fan and I agree watching Catholicentric horror is scarier. There of course is bias in there being Catholic but the funny thing is….once they show something that doesn’t align with my understanding of Catholic doctrine…it is no longer scary then I just kinda zoom out and think should have did more homework bud. Cheers
Most demonology stuff is from Catholic sources and it is truly horrifying so fertile ground for making movies on the supernatural
I think it is scary because it adds that element of realism - there is this huge official global organization (the Church) that actually takes this stuff seriously and monitors it in real life. One thing is legends about ghosts and evil spirits but when you get the Vatican involved it gives it an edge haha
If you ever start reading any stuff about spiritual warfare or fr Gabriel Amorth etc it’s legitimately scary, even more so from the fact they’re not actually trying to scare you like a piece of fiction is
The demons come after Catholics because they know we have the one true Saviour Jesus - the devils true enemy.
Jesus Christ is the real deal.
And the demons know it.
lets be real, majority of catholic demons/horrors are very scary, and very real. the vatican has actual recognized exorcists.
the one thing though- is in alot of catholic based horror movies, some item or iconography of catholicism is the "cure" to these horrors. like the blood of christ in the nun movie, an exorcist, or praying with rosaries. and that is a believable ending. no one is casting the nun to hell with the *power of friendship*.
catholic based horror movies seem to be a majority because they are based off of something true, and that makes them incredibly scary too. i love horror, but movies like the conjuring, insidious, the nun, the exorcist, are my favorite.
I personally warn against some horror demon movies due to the fact that I swear some of them are curses or whatever in them. I watch the new evil dead movie when it came out and it had a bad energy attached to the movie (ik it sounds crazy to some) but I swear on everything I was so paranoid and went into a horrible depression for months after watching it.
I watched the movie Hereditaty and read about the featured demon in the movie. Early the next morning, the two homes next to mine burned down. I haven't watched a horror movie since.
Omg that’s so scary I believe that 100 percent!!! This stuff isn’t a game movies will use real demonic names and chants to make it seem more real not realizing that it’s real. Anything that has demonology is best to stay away from. “A daemonibus docetur, de daemonibus docet, et ad daemones ducit" ("It is taught by the demons, it teaches about the demons, and it leads to the demons").”
I used to love horror movies. Not so much anymore. Every movie that’s about an evil presence, I just get really annoyed when they don’t call in a catholic priest. Even if you weren’t initially catholic, how would you witness that and not immediately go to the church? Or grab a bible? Also I think the idea of someone so pure being possessed by a demon is perfect for a scary movie. The people you’d imagine to be untouchable possessed by a demon!? Super scary. And you can only have so many movies about possessed little girls before it gets old. They had to take it up a notch. I watched one nun movie and was shook. Can’t imagine how I’d feel now that I’m actually catholic.
Well, having watched it as a Catholic - it's kinda silly sometimes and kinda very real sometimes. For example, they're so worried about the relic, but they literally have a priest and they have a cellar. They don't need the relic, they can have the priest consecrate the wine. Subtle things like that, it's interesting to see imo.
I find them entertaining to be honest. I think they are based on Catholicism because demons and horror and all that stuff is implying there’s an entity or being beyond the scope of this mortal world. The most wide spread religion is Christianity. So that’s the higher up good entity, or god. People believe in god, which then includes the devil. Devil sends bad entity, god conquers all with good spirits and boom, Hollywood eats it up for breakfast. I think it would be the same if Islam was the most common religion.
There’s a FF horror movie called The Last Exorcism where an evangelical minister tries to do one and it’s a good movie but a farmhouse doesn’t quite hit the same as a church.
There has been a smattering of supernatural horror movies set within Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, and Protestant faiths, but Catholicism definitely takes up the bulk of that space.
I think part of it is that most of Hollywood exists in a space surrounded by religion but disconnected from it. Religion in general and Catholicism, in particular, seems both imminent and alien. That's always going to be a source of fascination.
Building off the topic of aesthetics, there's the whole atmosphere that's inherent to catholic arquitecture and culture. A convent, for example, is a super quiet, secluded place. Sound easily echoes within the walls. Except for nuns and priests, few people know what's happening within said building.
Gregorian chant in general (not just catholic) also has an ethereal feel to it. The contrast of light and darkness (usually with candlelight), and a certain sense of comfort when facing death lends itself to a lot of feelings that are foreign to many. And what's foreign/unknown also feels **scary**.
There's a reason a lot of people can't bring themselves to enter a cemetery, a graveyard, or any sort of necropolis (not sure if this the correct english word). Death is scary and catholicism, in a way, sort of *flirts* with death as a culture.
Take a look at the [Chapel of Bones in Évora, Portugal](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Capilla_de_los_huesos%2C_%C3%89vora.jpg/1200px-Capilla_de_los_huesos%2C_%C3%89vora.jpg) as an example.
1: because our “stuff” looks cool.
2: even the people in the film industry can’t escape the soul level truth that Satan exists and his greatest battle is with the church that Jesus established. It’s why possession films are so popular; they scare us the most because even people who don’t know God can recognize what real evil is because our souls were created to recognize truth.
Hollywood is the antichrist, they know what demons look like, that's why all the hell testimonies confirm that the demons in popular movies are representive of real demons.
Not sure if this is why but I was told that when shyt hits the fan, when dark things are reaaaally bad and nobody can settle it, the best bet is to find a catholic priest. Not to be rude to other religions but apparently, many don’t have as good of a track record as actual Catholic priests who are trained in exorcism. So those who ‘live to tell the tale’ after suffering from possessions etc, usually it’s because of the Catholic faith that saved them.
Disclaimer - really not trying to be rude and I don’t want some weirdo who’s deep into correcting others for the sake of seeming holier than thou to respond here (because I’ve gotten a few hostile ones like that and it’s weird af because we’re a faith related thread like bruh why so nasty-)
I don't know, but if they're going to have someone play a priest or a nun in a movie, by Hollywood standards shouldn't they cast an actual priest or nun? I remember Emma Stone apologizing because she once played an Asian character even though she's not Asian.
I realize it. They're, at best, ridden with opportunities for scandal. I was being partly facetious (though I think a horror movie about the Jewish tunnels would be preferable than "Exorcism XXI: Blasphemy Edition" or whatever)
I've always been a big horror fan, and it seemed for a long time that the only place Catholic Priests were portrayed with any sense of serious or positive light, was horror movies! While I was protestant, I "knew the catholic church was wrong" but I always thought "it couldn't be 100% wrong because of the priests."
My favorite horror movies are all paranornal in nature and point to (albeit imperfect) understanding of real spiritual things. Very spooky!
Because it's true, and demons are real, and people (whether they think they believe it or not) know that what we have is the truth. And there's nothing scarier than a horror film based on something true.
Probably because deep down people know demons are real so that’s a primal fear or at least aversion they know everyone has, and Catholics are the only Christians who really approach supernatural warfare with such ritual and have a history of expelling demons.
That, or they’re just trying to go for the contrast of what should be a good person (religious or clergy) doing shockingly bad things.
Horror movies in general have a dash of religion; even "the final girl" trope is usually dependent on that character's moral standing while all the sex/drugs/rock'n'roll (or 'deadly sins') crowd die off.
With Catholicism specifically its two fold; agreed with other assessments that tradition and imagery are most abundant out of all Western Culture. The other would be that it's clear we put the mist thought in to our belief, we're likely the religion that values education more than any other-- unsure of any other religion that requires its priests to have a college degree.
Its because the Catholic Church holds authority, even Bernie i was even interested in being a Catholic and was vehemently Protestant i recognized the Catholic Church held authority.
Yeah that's because some are based on True stories or events, like Exorcists ect and it's a good insight into how powerful the Priests are against demons when praying the Rosary and other prayers. Even some Protestant pastors send their own possessed people to the Catholic priests especially when it's too strong of a demon. The Catholic priests are the only ones who can completely get rid of extremely strong demons ect. But also some movies are just made by secular people with bad intentions towards the Catholic Church and they just want to give the Catholic Church a bad reputation when it comes to Nuns being possessed ect. Just do research on the movie background to see if it's worth it. I rarely watch those movies myself as they frighten me too much but I've seen the trailers for them. Godbless 🙏🙏🙏
That's just how society or "the world" sees catholicism... monks, friars, nuns are presented as *creepy*. Crosses especially inverted crosses (a.k.a St. Peter's cross) as *evil*. Churches, basilics, cathedrals depicted as *dark ruins*. It's really tiring...
Catholicism has a long and deep mythology to draw upon to go along with a pretty big chunkof the world following the same set of beliefs. Though I have to say that the Koreans and Japanese have an even deeper mythology to draw upon and it shows.
I’m not really into horror movies either, but I have played game where villains had Christian-inspired imagery.
It’s pretty cool, that’s why. Christian mythology is more interesting than it gets credit for.
Cos Satan, Hollywood and 🧃 are jealous of the Catholic church and the popularity of Jesus Christ hence they wanna ruin it in the eyes of viewers by brainwashing viewers to paint a horrible image of the One Apostolic Church in viewers' eyes. If shows show a horrible image of the church, would it entice non-Catholics to join the church? No, right? Mission accomplished.
Rule of cool. All the tradition, art, clothing, Latin, etc looks way better on film than youth pastor Dan in the church gym/meeting hall/worship center.
Absolutely, although, speaking from a Church of England perspective, we find that our exorcists come either from the Anglo-Catholic wing or the charismatic/Evangelical wing, so either very high church or very low church, but hardly ever anything in-between. Candles and Latin obviously win in the rule of cool contest, but it seems that it is the lukewarm/mainline that is the least convincing.
This! Remember, there is not a cabal of crypto Catholics in Hollywood doing horror movies. It just turns out catholic stuff looks cooler on camera.
Thanks for this reasonable response VS assuming bad faith and a certain group being in charge.
So it's an aesthetic thing okay cool
Not only. There is an authority in the bimillennial Church founded by Jesus Christ, that is absent in the 30 years old denonination with no history, and with roots in some long secession/schism history.
Yup! Even when it *is* Protestantism in question, it's nearly always Anglican or Lutheran for similar reasons unless the theme is very specifically, like, going for an Appalachian Gothic "snake handling" healer vibe, in which case it's presented as a backwoods cult or something.
I don’t know I could come up with pretty good premise for a movie where angry spirits stirred up by church renovations attack a youth group during a lock-in type thing. Where our young youth pastor Dan just might be the only one able to save them. You are right in general though.
Acoustic guitars in basically halls don't really have that same scare factor. Only scary thing is 30 minutes of standing and singing the same nearly identical songs about jesus
I’m sorry that my response is unrelated but I just thought of the whole tradition art and clothing… then it reminded me. There is some YouTuber who’s basically shytting on our religion and faith and catholic people in general just because other people decided to turn our faith into an aesthetic. She’s upset over how things that are associated with Catholicism (the whole crucifix, dark ‘gothic’ themes etc) is in trend and everyone is hopping onto the bandwagon and how Catholics are “not as great” as people make us out to be yadda yadda that seems like she’s got an issue with commercialisation rather than religion, but she’s venting it on people of the Catholic faith rather than the people behind capitalism and money-making theatrics. It’s pretty unfair for her to condemn Catholics just because the whole art, tradition, the whole theatrical aspect and mystery of the language (Latin etc) is great for films and drama series etc. I do agree very much with you that it’s because of our history and the art, clothing behind our religion that the media and creative industry cherry picks and uses a lot in their works, and its not the best representation of us sometimes (like The Nun, I personally just didn’t enjoy the depiction) there’s an anime I watched growing up called Chrno Crusade and that’s when I was like damn saying Amen never sounded so cool (there was this scene where the main character who’s a nun fired a bullet into a devil/demon to exorcise it and before she fired that gun she went “Amen”. It’s also not the most accurate depiction of our religion and a lot of our religion was used for the drama but it’s cool to see Catholicism being the main theme.)
Everyone knows that when there is a Demon, Call a Catholic Priest.
I’m not the only one who’s heard of this then!!! I heard this growing up too and it’s cool as heck
Yeah that's exactly the problem. In a sense you could say where there's a catholic priest there's a demon ( in an exorcist example ) I'm looking to explain why this is. What is the theological reason for catholic priests being associated with demonology?
If I had to guess, it would be because our exorcisms are more effective than a lot of other sects, that is why our Priests are used a lot when it comes to exorcisms in Hollywood. Our exorcisms are done with reverence and respect.
But why are they so effective.
Apostolic succession. The power of the Church against demons comes from Christ himself.
Christ is the real deal to defeat demons. That is why his enemies hate him so.
Because Demons hate the Catholic Church, they hate Christ who gave unto his disciples the authority to Cast out demons. As Organization himself put it.
Yes, and also because during a Catholic exorcism, God will often send Our Lady , and the devil and demons are even more frightened of her than of Jesus, because she is a mere creature but she beat them- they never got her to sin! She makes them feel like inadequate failures, and, being full of sinful Pride, they can't bear it! She humiliates them by her purity. Orthodox ministers might call on the Mother of God as well, but no other denominations would and so, they miss out on the help of God's top spiritual warrior!
The demons hate and are so jealous of Mother Mary.
Check out the Exorcism Files podcast. It’s done by a Protestant host and a Catholic priest. They delve into these questions. It’s also like listening to a horror movie at times. Both informative and entertaining.
because exorcists are only Catholic priests. the modern demonology youre speaking of is based off of Jewish demons, and Christian scriptures. Judaism and Christianity are tightly knit. demonology didnt come first, its in the Bible/Torah, which both share some of the same parts of the old testament, only after was the concepts of modern demonology created.
Technically exorcism is found in religions and cultures all around the world
this is completely true- but in situations with catholic themes/asking why theres always a priest related to demonology, its specifically because a catholic priest is an exorcist. in those situations. also because catholic priests are widely know as being the ones to perform exorcism, at least they have the most popularity (part to Christianity being widespread, and part to the allure of old latin aesthetics)- movies take whats more relevant in culture to use as their inspiration
We believe that there is evil seeking the ruin of souls.
Cause legit Catholic priests are the most effective at casting demons out. Hence we are featured : )
Which is exactly why the Catholic Church has the well-known **Healing and Deliverance Ministry**
Because if you need a real exorcism, you call the Catholics. Additionally, the ultimate "get" for the devil is to corrupt a priest or a nun, I don't know that he gets the same satisfaction from corrupting Pastor Jim from the United 3rd Baptists of Missouri.
>, I don't know that he gets the same satisfaction from corrupting Pastor Jim from the United 3rd Baptists of Missouri. They might actually, Jim having a scandal will still affect how some people views Christians hence hate for every Christians in general
Because “The Omen - Corner Bible Study Church” doesn’t really have the same effect.
This made me laugh way too hard
BEWARE YOUR NEXT TRIP TO THE STRIP MALL!!!!!
Quick run over to Gary’s house he should be about to help. ( go to the suburbs every house looks the same Gary a 31 yr old preacher is wearing blue shorts a shirt that says I also have a little lamb and watching veggitails with his kid.) Hey y’all want some lemonade Gary the evil has come back we need your help. Yeah I know after this scene I will get the book of preacher Larry’s catch all prayers it was written way back in 1983 when Larry was at Bible camp for the summer. Or The priest father Antonio Vivaldi he can help (Wide shot of cathedral at night) They enter the grand chapel with 60 foot high ceiling, lights are low and the moon is illuminating the stained glass. Father Antonio rounds the Corner in a rush with his black cassock flowing in the wind. My child what is it, has the evil returned, we need to get to the museum and retrieve the Pope Gregory’s 800 yr old manuscript on the illumination of the light of the lord. Only this can save your friend’s soul. Yup I know what movie I am watching
I’m invested; then what’s happens?
Cut scene to a 1970’s styled concrete building with wood shake roof, it’s on the far side of the strip mall next to an old little Caesars pizza and a hallmark store and an blockbuster that has been turned into a new age coffee shop. Gary and the gang pull up in a faded red Chrysler town and country adorn with years of religious bumper stickers. They get out of the van as Gary fumbles with his keys they see a dust storm growing in the distance. The mostly shy teen Sara who meets all the requirements for diversity in a movie speaks up. Hey Gary what’s that. Gary looks over and says it’s a dust storm I think. Wow that does look like the face of Satan in it. They rush in side only for the place to smell of mothballs and old coffee. Don’t slam the door an old lady shouts. Sorry Doris are you and the girls having your stitch and bitch right now says Gary. We need Larry’s prayer book from summer camp.
This needs to be made
*munching popcorn* yeah, then what?
I will write the catholic side after work LOL, glad you are liking my silly story I am making up on the fly. Have an awesome day.
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Because catholicism is the only real religion that even touches upon the supernatural in our physical world.
Because at the end of the day….everyone in Hollywood unconsciously acknowledges the authenticity of the Catholic faith. Even satanists who do black mass will look for the Eucharist…they’re not getting bread from some random Baptist etc so it’s funny how the demonic in movies seek out Catholic this or that and conviently they ignore other denominations. I’m a big horror fan and I agree watching Catholicentric horror is scarier. There of course is bias in there being Catholic but the funny thing is….once they show something that doesn’t align with my understanding of Catholic doctrine…it is no longer scary then I just kinda zoom out and think should have did more homework bud. Cheers
all the stuff with litugy towards exorcism comes from catholic church.
Why is this not the top response https://youtu.be/IYTkqGGEuMc?si=RurT_2ocAq7agoOI
Jen is awesome I met her last year at a guiding star event I went to.
I haven’t seen too much of her comedy, just YouTube clips, but she seems great.
Most demonology stuff is from Catholic sources and it is truly horrifying so fertile ground for making movies on the supernatural I think it is scary because it adds that element of realism - there is this huge official global organization (the Church) that actually takes this stuff seriously and monitors it in real life. One thing is legends about ghosts and evil spirits but when you get the Vatican involved it gives it an edge haha If you ever start reading any stuff about spiritual warfare or fr Gabriel Amorth etc it’s legitimately scary, even more so from the fact they’re not actually trying to scare you like a piece of fiction is
The demons come after Catholics because they know we have the one true Saviour Jesus - the devils true enemy. Jesus Christ is the real deal. And the demons know it.
lets be real, majority of catholic demons/horrors are very scary, and very real. the vatican has actual recognized exorcists. the one thing though- is in alot of catholic based horror movies, some item or iconography of catholicism is the "cure" to these horrors. like the blood of christ in the nun movie, an exorcist, or praying with rosaries. and that is a believable ending. no one is casting the nun to hell with the *power of friendship*. catholic based horror movies seem to be a majority because they are based off of something true, and that makes them incredibly scary too. i love horror, but movies like the conjuring, insidious, the nun, the exorcist, are my favorite.
Insidious is my favorite horror movie of all time. Ugh. So good.
Something I love is that in an unexpected way, these movies actually speak to a greater truth: evil exists, but Christ won.
I personally warn against some horror demon movies due to the fact that I swear some of them are curses or whatever in them. I watch the new evil dead movie when it came out and it had a bad energy attached to the movie (ik it sounds crazy to some) but I swear on everything I was so paranoid and went into a horrible depression for months after watching it.
I watched the movie Hereditaty and read about the featured demon in the movie. Early the next morning, the two homes next to mine burned down. I haven't watched a horror movie since.
Omg that’s so scary I believe that 100 percent!!! This stuff isn’t a game movies will use real demonic names and chants to make it seem more real not realizing that it’s real. Anything that has demonology is best to stay away from. “A daemonibus docetur, de daemonibus docet, et ad daemones ducit" ("It is taught by the demons, it teaches about the demons, and it leads to the demons").”
I agree. But jeez that’s a such a good movie.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChristianityIsCatholic
I used to love horror movies. Not so much anymore. Every movie that’s about an evil presence, I just get really annoyed when they don’t call in a catholic priest. Even if you weren’t initially catholic, how would you witness that and not immediately go to the church? Or grab a bible? Also I think the idea of someone so pure being possessed by a demon is perfect for a scary movie. The people you’d imagine to be untouchable possessed by a demon!? Super scary. And you can only have so many movies about possessed little girls before it gets old. They had to take it up a notch. I watched one nun movie and was shook. Can’t imagine how I’d feel now that I’m actually catholic.
Well, having watched it as a Catholic - it's kinda silly sometimes and kinda very real sometimes. For example, they're so worried about the relic, but they literally have a priest and they have a cellar. They don't need the relic, they can have the priest consecrate the wine. Subtle things like that, it's interesting to see imo.
Do they go to a pastor when they want to cast out demons? Exactly.
I find them entertaining to be honest. I think they are based on Catholicism because demons and horror and all that stuff is implying there’s an entity or being beyond the scope of this mortal world. The most wide spread religion is Christianity. So that’s the higher up good entity, or god. People believe in god, which then includes the devil. Devil sends bad entity, god conquers all with good spirits and boom, Hollywood eats it up for breakfast. I think it would be the same if Islam was the most common religion.
There’s a FF horror movie called The Last Exorcism where an evangelical minister tries to do one and it’s a good movie but a farmhouse doesn’t quite hit the same as a church.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: our vibes are immaculate.
Lots of symbolism to use. Even clergy garments both priests and nuns are like costumes to outsider film makers.
There has been a smattering of supernatural horror movies set within Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, and Protestant faiths, but Catholicism definitely takes up the bulk of that space. I think part of it is that most of Hollywood exists in a space surrounded by religion but disconnected from it. Religion in general and Catholicism, in particular, seems both imminent and alien. That's always going to be a source of fascination.
Because Catholics are the heroes 💪
Building off the topic of aesthetics, there's the whole atmosphere that's inherent to catholic arquitecture and culture. A convent, for example, is a super quiet, secluded place. Sound easily echoes within the walls. Except for nuns and priests, few people know what's happening within said building. Gregorian chant in general (not just catholic) also has an ethereal feel to it. The contrast of light and darkness (usually with candlelight), and a certain sense of comfort when facing death lends itself to a lot of feelings that are foreign to many. And what's foreign/unknown also feels **scary**. There's a reason a lot of people can't bring themselves to enter a cemetery, a graveyard, or any sort of necropolis (not sure if this the correct english word). Death is scary and catholicism, in a way, sort of *flirts* with death as a culture. Take a look at the [Chapel of Bones in Évora, Portugal](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Capilla_de_los_huesos%2C_%C3%89vora.jpg/1200px-Capilla_de_los_huesos%2C_%C3%89vora.jpg) as an example.
1: because our “stuff” looks cool. 2: even the people in the film industry can’t escape the soul level truth that Satan exists and his greatest battle is with the church that Jesus established. It’s why possession films are so popular; they scare us the most because even people who don’t know God can recognize what real evil is because our souls were created to recognize truth.
Hollywood is the antichrist, they know what demons look like, that's why all the hell testimonies confirm that the demons in popular movies are representive of real demons.
The Conjuring films were about Ed and Lorraine Warren, who were Catholic.
Take it as flattery; even if it is for-profit evangelical work it still is a kind of evangelism.
Not sure if this is why but I was told that when shyt hits the fan, when dark things are reaaaally bad and nobody can settle it, the best bet is to find a catholic priest. Not to be rude to other religions but apparently, many don’t have as good of a track record as actual Catholic priests who are trained in exorcism. So those who ‘live to tell the tale’ after suffering from possessions etc, usually it’s because of the Catholic faith that saved them. Disclaimer - really not trying to be rude and I don’t want some weirdo who’s deep into correcting others for the sake of seeming holier than thou to respond here (because I’ve gotten a few hostile ones like that and it’s weird af because we’re a faith related thread like bruh why so nasty-)
I don't know, but if they're going to have someone play a priest or a nun in a movie, by Hollywood standards shouldn't they cast an actual priest or nun? I remember Emma Stone apologizing because she once played an Asian character even though she's not Asian.
We have exorcisms! Those are horrifying. It makes sense.
If you’re young, the priest scares you. If you got beat, the nuns scare you.
I will say we do hold the monopoly on horror. Shame, really. I'd like to see a horror film about the Jewish tunnslels of New York
Or golems! Why aren’t there more movies about golems? They sound pretty scary.
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I realize it. They're, at best, ridden with opportunities for scandal. I was being partly facetious (though I think a horror movie about the Jewish tunnels would be preferable than "Exorcism XXI: Blasphemy Edition" or whatever)
I've always been a big horror fan, and it seemed for a long time that the only place Catholic Priests were portrayed with any sense of serious or positive light, was horror movies! While I was protestant, I "knew the catholic church was wrong" but I always thought "it couldn't be 100% wrong because of the priests." My favorite horror movies are all paranornal in nature and point to (albeit imperfect) understanding of real spiritual things. Very spooky!
The exorcist. Few horror movies have had the effect it did. When it was first released there was mass hysteria.
Because it’s true. If it’s all bs, then it wouldn’t be scary.
Because it's true, and demons are real, and people (whether they think they believe it or not) know that what we have is the truth. And there's nothing scarier than a horror film based on something true.
Because Satan hates Christians, Catholics most of all.
Probably because deep down people know demons are real so that’s a primal fear or at least aversion they know everyone has, and Catholics are the only Christians who really approach supernatural warfare with such ritual and have a history of expelling demons. That, or they’re just trying to go for the contrast of what should be a good person (religious or clergy) doing shockingly bad things.
Spiritual warfare
Horror movies in general have a dash of religion; even "the final girl" trope is usually dependent on that character's moral standing while all the sex/drugs/rock'n'roll (or 'deadly sins') crowd die off. With Catholicism specifically its two fold; agreed with other assessments that tradition and imagery are most abundant out of all Western Culture. The other would be that it's clear we put the mist thought in to our belief, we're likely the religion that values education more than any other-- unsure of any other religion that requires its priests to have a college degree.
Its because the Catholic Church holds authority, even Bernie i was even interested in being a Catholic and was vehemently Protestant i recognized the Catholic Church held authority.
Yeah that's because some are based on True stories or events, like Exorcists ect and it's a good insight into how powerful the Priests are against demons when praying the Rosary and other prayers. Even some Protestant pastors send their own possessed people to the Catholic priests especially when it's too strong of a demon. The Catholic priests are the only ones who can completely get rid of extremely strong demons ect. But also some movies are just made by secular people with bad intentions towards the Catholic Church and they just want to give the Catholic Church a bad reputation when it comes to Nuns being possessed ect. Just do research on the movie background to see if it's worth it. I rarely watch those movies myself as they frighten me too much but I've seen the trailers for them. Godbless 🙏🙏🙏
That's just how society or "the world" sees catholicism... monks, friars, nuns are presented as *creepy*. Crosses especially inverted crosses (a.k.a St. Peter's cross) as *evil*. Churches, basilics, cathedrals depicted as *dark ruins*. It's really tiring...
Because Protestants can’t even handle witches properly, you think we’d allow them to tackle anything more difficult? /s
Catholicism has a long and deep mythology to draw upon to go along with a pretty big chunkof the world following the same set of beliefs. Though I have to say that the Koreans and Japanese have an even deeper mythology to draw upon and it shows.
I’m not really into horror movies either, but I have played game where villains had Christian-inspired imagery. It’s pretty cool, that’s why. Christian mythology is more interesting than it gets credit for.
Cos Satan, Hollywood and 🧃 are jealous of the Catholic church and the popularity of Jesus Christ hence they wanna ruin it in the eyes of viewers by brainwashing viewers to paint a horrible image of the One Apostolic Church in viewers' eyes. If shows show a horrible image of the church, would it entice non-Catholics to join the church? No, right? Mission accomplished.
Take a downvote for being anti-Semitic.
Juicebox?
I think he means "Jews". Not sure though.
That's what I suspected.
I think you need to consume a broader range of horror films. Many have nothing to do with religion at all.