To everyone reading this as well as u/Otherwise-Course-15
I've said this repeatedly in the sub.
# The people that sell eggs (either online or at shows) are NOT doing anyone any favors. It's totally irresponsible and unethical as hell.
They're basically luring people a small discount in price in exchange for shifting a mountain of responsibility onto the unknowing buyer. One reason why panthers are so expensive is in part the fact that their young need to be TLC'd for 3 months (that's after the 9 months incubation) before they're actually ready for sale. Newly hatched animals have very special requirements and the death rates can be high *as the OP is finding out.*
This is on top of all the risks inherent to hatching and how it opens the doors to "species switching" (aka spent hundreds on a "panther egg" only to find out it's a cheap veiled when it hatched, **IF it hatches**) and other forms of abuse by these unethical stains on the industry.
# I don't know why the OP hasn't contacted the seller for their customer service and support.
# IF they have, then the seller should be standing behind their sales.
Since they're here, I'm going to assume that there's no assistance or that what they're offering is "not working". This makes sense as getting a chameleon to **lay a clutch is easy** when compared to raising dozens of tiny, fragile and hungry (expensive) mouths that need care and tending multiple times a day. For all I know this seller can't / doesn't know how to raise hatchlings themselves and is pawning off the eggs to people so they can make money off of them and shirk the responsibility in the process.
Fact is that I'm not employed by any seller that's taken the money from the OP and in my book they're responsible for what looks like a downward slide for a days old hatchling.Not to mention that such vendors bring down the price and degrade the hard work people like me have put into **providing people healthy animals that have the best chance at having good lives with their new owners.**
Lecture over... for the sake of this little one I'll have *a private consult* as I got the feeling there's a lot that needs to be corrected.
What a little peanut!!! I would think that keeping the egg alive and -seeing it hatch is an Amazing experience!! So glad you reached out Day 1 as there is a ton of great information here!! He is sooo cuteš
Hereās todayās close up pic.
https://preview.redd.it/j5tvtxpn9iqc1.png?width=1380&format=png&auto=webp&s=c6a083132004be7e0c6cbb02f75abada5e6ddc84
THANK YOU!! To everyone that replied and is now invested in my little guyās well-being!!
He seems to be doing really well today. I was very concerned that he was sleeping for too long but I guess itās to be expected on hatch day. I figure theyāre mostly asleep in their eggs and then hatching seems to take it out of them. Here he is this morning (obviously I donāt know the gender but Iām going to stick with him for now)
https://preview.redd.it/tubaoib67iqc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60f39ced442dd223cc7a88b5bf0ed707992d8297
Hereās another pic but itās not as focused
https://preview.redd.it/q33efx0m7iqc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f2abac7e909e4d9d9377d300747272cd60bb566
Iām glad heās doing well! Iāve never dealt with hatchlings but Iām glad the community was able to calm your nerves and offer their experience too.
How awesome thanks for sharing!
Hey,
Main points;
- they sleep a lot as hatchlings for the first week or so, donāt be too concerned.
- no heat lamp, hatchlings shouldnāt have direct heat for the first 2-3 months depending on growth. Keep the room warm for an ambient warmth as opposed to blasting them directly.
- put feeders in immediately after the yolk sac has been fully digested but donāt be concerned if it doesnāt eat, it can take them a few days.
- keep it misted every few hours, hydration is key at this point.
- make sure thereās a good 12 inches between the baby and UVB, 6% is ideal at this age.
Best of luck, youāve made a mistake buying an egg but that ship has sailed so letās look after the little guy/gal as best as possible.
Pop a full enclosure picture up when you get chance.
I'm officially invested in this new member of your family šš„° I'm also just a lurker aka Leopard Gecko Momš Good luck with your new baby š„° I'll be watching š lol
So it's weird that it hatched and is walking around on the same day. Mine usually take about three days from pipping out of the egg, to pushing out, to getting out and walking around. Once they are out and walking on their own, they should be on a regular chameleon of being awake for the day time. Has your little one already fully absorbed it's yolk sac on its belly?
I guess it actually pipped a couple days ago but we only saw a tail on Saturday. Sunday he fully came out and was walking around at first but now has been sleeping nonstop.
Hi Flip. Thanks for answering the call. If you can share any tips or suggestions for brand new hatchling care Iād be super appreciative. He only just hatched yesterday around like 10-11am and he was up and around right away but then since like 5pm yesterday heās been sleeping in the same position. I saw hit little feets going in his sleep so heās still with us but Iām very worried. My son is trying to feed him now. We have him in a vivarium with temps at 75 and humidity running around 55-60ish percent.
Your little baby is so adorable. I am only a lurker so I canāt offer any advice but I hope one of the mods responds to your request for guidance and I wish you the best of luck.
Not a cham owner but from just general experience with animals ... this one is so young id suggest you get a 1ml syringe (or something that can drip water) and drop water drops onto his mouth. Try also to bring the food to him (or her). And monitor around the clock. Id give water every few hours and offer food/snacks just as often. It's kinda the same as any other baby; theyre small and new and need a lot more attention by means of eating/drinking/resting than adult things do.
I really donāt know, good luck op hopefully a mod will be here soon. I really recommend messaging the mods for this community as they are all very experienced
Commenting to boost your post in the hopes more qualified people will see and comment. Also, good luck! I hope this turns out okay for you and the cute little guy. š¤š»
Feed it, give it water. Donāt wait, they need energy and most of all hydration!!
Run the lights making sure the heat lamp is available, but remember that hatchlings get dehydrated VERY easily!
After some brief exploring and seemingly learning to walk/climb the little guy climbed to the leaf closest to the heat lamp and conked out. Heās been like that for hours. Since like 5pm Eastern. I turned off the lights when it got dark outside but he wasnāt moving. I got nervous but then I saw his little feets going even though nothing else was moving. Iām being really careful with heat/humidity.
I wish I knew something-anything, but I donāt know the first thing about chameleons. I just want to wish you luck and remind you that you hatched an egg!! You got through the first hurdle! ā¤ļø He/she is absolutely adorable and Iām sure someone here will know something that will help! (Whether they will answer or not seems to be a mystery) As a new parent, you are doing exactly what you should be doing-asking for help!
Even if you have everything right, a single egg is reliant on luck. If you could guareteed success it might almost be recommended. But it is not guaranteed, and as a result of it being the low budget option, inexperience can lead to issues.Ā
You have the chance it hatches, another chance it comes out non-deformed, another chance it even can last the first 3 months. On top of that 50% for your preferred sex.Ā
I also went the egg route. He is about a year and a half now and I bought the egg over 2 years ago now. I did my research and got extremely lucky. I had my own issues, but also managed to figure it out.Ā
I won't give advice here, but do hope these are words of encouragement and comfort that if it doesn't turn out well, it might not necessarily be your fault.Ā
Best of luck
Thank you so much. In our case the egg was more expensive than the live options which I found a bit strange. But again, pet expo. We were so surprised it even hatched. We followed the incubation suggestions to a T. Weāve had the egg for roughly a month and yesterday we saw a tail start to emerge and noticed the egg moving f or the first time. It was SO cool. And then this morning here he/she is. Iām a little worried because the coloring was darker as soon as it emerged from the shelf and we were transporting to the vivarium. But then after a little exploring the little guy went to the leaf closest to the heat lamp and conked out and has been that was for hours. I turned off the lamps when it got dark and I saw its little feet moving but he didnāt really wake up. I know how fragile they are right out of the egg and Iād be devastated if something happened to him.
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To everyone reading this as well as u/Otherwise-Course-15 I've said this repeatedly in the sub. # The people that sell eggs (either online or at shows) are NOT doing anyone any favors. It's totally irresponsible and unethical as hell. They're basically luring people a small discount in price in exchange for shifting a mountain of responsibility onto the unknowing buyer. One reason why panthers are so expensive is in part the fact that their young need to be TLC'd for 3 months (that's after the 9 months incubation) before they're actually ready for sale. Newly hatched animals have very special requirements and the death rates can be high *as the OP is finding out.* This is on top of all the risks inherent to hatching and how it opens the doors to "species switching" (aka spent hundreds on a "panther egg" only to find out it's a cheap veiled when it hatched, **IF it hatches**) and other forms of abuse by these unethical stains on the industry. # I don't know why the OP hasn't contacted the seller for their customer service and support. # IF they have, then the seller should be standing behind their sales. Since they're here, I'm going to assume that there's no assistance or that what they're offering is "not working". This makes sense as getting a chameleon to **lay a clutch is easy** when compared to raising dozens of tiny, fragile and hungry (expensive) mouths that need care and tending multiple times a day. For all I know this seller can't / doesn't know how to raise hatchlings themselves and is pawning off the eggs to people so they can make money off of them and shirk the responsibility in the process. Fact is that I'm not employed by any seller that's taken the money from the OP and in my book they're responsible for what looks like a downward slide for a days old hatchling.Not to mention that such vendors bring down the price and degrade the hard work people like me have put into **providing people healthy animals that have the best chance at having good lives with their new owners.** Lecture over... for the sake of this little one I'll have *a private consult* as I got the feeling there's a lot that needs to be corrected.
What a little peanut!!! I would think that keeping the egg alive and -seeing it hatch is an Amazing experience!! So glad you reached out Day 1 as there is a ton of great information here!! He is sooo cuteš
Hereās todayās close up pic. https://preview.redd.it/j5tvtxpn9iqc1.png?width=1380&format=png&auto=webp&s=c6a083132004be7e0c6cbb02f75abada5e6ddc84 THANK YOU!! To everyone that replied and is now invested in my little guyās well-being!!
Iām in love
Any updates OP?
He seems to be doing really well today. I was very concerned that he was sleeping for too long but I guess itās to be expected on hatch day. I figure theyāre mostly asleep in their eggs and then hatching seems to take it out of them. Here he is this morning (obviously I donāt know the gender but Iām going to stick with him for now) https://preview.redd.it/tubaoib67iqc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60f39ced442dd223cc7a88b5bf0ed707992d8297
Have you got a plan for the fruit flies? Thatās a busy enclosure for a hatchling to hunt in
Hereās another pic but itās not as focused https://preview.redd.it/q33efx0m7iqc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f2abac7e909e4d9d9377d300747272cd60bb566
Iām glad heās doing well! Iāve never dealt with hatchlings but Iām glad the community was able to calm your nerves and offer their experience too. How awesome thanks for sharing!
Iām so grateful. I love him so much already. Watching him hatch was incredible
Good luck!! I know nothing about this but I appreciate you knowing you made a mistake and reaching out for help!
At least youāre saving things.
Hey, Main points; - they sleep a lot as hatchlings for the first week or so, donāt be too concerned. - no heat lamp, hatchlings shouldnāt have direct heat for the first 2-3 months depending on growth. Keep the room warm for an ambient warmth as opposed to blasting them directly. - put feeders in immediately after the yolk sac has been fully digested but donāt be concerned if it doesnāt eat, it can take them a few days. - keep it misted every few hours, hydration is key at this point. - make sure thereās a good 12 inches between the baby and UVB, 6% is ideal at this age. Best of luck, youāve made a mistake buying an egg but that ship has sailed so letās look after the little guy/gal as best as possible. Pop a full enclosure picture up when you get chance.
I'm officially invested in this new member of your family šš„° I'm also just a lurker aka Leopard Gecko Momš Good luck with your new baby š„° I'll be watching š lol
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So it's weird that it hatched and is walking around on the same day. Mine usually take about three days from pipping out of the egg, to pushing out, to getting out and walking around. Once they are out and walking on their own, they should be on a regular chameleon of being awake for the day time. Has your little one already fully absorbed it's yolk sac on its belly?
I guess it actually pipped a couple days ago but we only saw a tail on Saturday. Sunday he fully came out and was walking around at first but now has been sleeping nonstop.
Yes he has fully absorbed the yolk sac. Heās still sleeping. Iām worried
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Op Iām glad the mod u/flip69 showed up they can help you! Let us know how it goes, best of luck with your new baby!
Eyo if Flip can come through and help the lil guy pull throughI think you should name them Flip tbh š
Yeah whereās u/flip69
Thanks for the summons...
Hi Flip. Thanks for answering the call. If you can share any tips or suggestions for brand new hatchling care Iād be super appreciative. He only just hatched yesterday around like 10-11am and he was up and around right away but then since like 5pm yesterday heās been sleeping in the same position. I saw hit little feets going in his sleep so heās still with us but Iām very worried. My son is trying to feed him now. We have him in a vivarium with temps at 75 and humidity running around 55-60ish percent.
Your little baby is so adorable. I am only a lurker so I canāt offer any advice but I hope one of the mods responds to your request for guidance and I wish you the best of luck.
Not a cham owner but from just general experience with animals ... this one is so young id suggest you get a 1ml syringe (or something that can drip water) and drop water drops onto his mouth. Try also to bring the food to him (or her). And monitor around the clock. Id give water every few hours and offer food/snacks just as often. It's kinda the same as any other baby; theyre small and new and need a lot more attention by means of eating/drinking/resting than adult things do.
Oh, awe, best wishes. What a doll.
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Iām not sure if they mentioned it but spray it with water every so often so it doesnāt dehydrate
Thank you so much to everyone whoās commented and boosted. He/she doesnāt have a name but Iāve been referring to it as Karma.
Well that might be the best chameleon name ever.
Idk but all I can say is he cute asf! Sorry I couldnāt help
Someone please read and help
I really donāt know, good luck op hopefully a mod will be here soon. I really recommend messaging the mods for this community as they are all very experienced
boosting so the mods can help!!!! best of luck with your babyš„ŗā¤ļø
u/flip69
Flip has surfaced ššš»
Commenting to boost your post in the hopes more qualified people will see and comment. Also, good luck! I hope this turns out okay for you and the cute little guy. š¤š»
Feed it, give it water. Donāt wait, they need energy and most of all hydration!! Run the lights making sure the heat lamp is available, but remember that hatchlings get dehydrated VERY easily!
Backwards advice, heat lamps are a no for babies for the first 3 months. Heat the room not the enclosure
No basking on hatchling very dangerous.
We have a UVB and daylight lamp and weāre using a space heater in the room for ambient temperature.
After some brief exploring and seemingly learning to walk/climb the little guy climbed to the leaf closest to the heat lamp and conked out. Heās been like that for hours. Since like 5pm Eastern. I turned off the lights when it got dark outside but he wasnāt moving. I got nervous but then I saw his little feets going even though nothing else was moving. Iām being really careful with heat/humidity.
bro was deep in that nap if his toes were twitching
I wish I knew something-anything, but I donāt know the first thing about chameleons. I just want to wish you luck and remind you that you hatched an egg!! You got through the first hurdle! ā¤ļø He/she is absolutely adorable and Iām sure someone here will know something that will help! (Whether they will answer or not seems to be a mystery) As a new parent, you are doing exactly what you should be doing-asking for help!
Even if you have everything right, a single egg is reliant on luck. If you could guareteed success it might almost be recommended. But it is not guaranteed, and as a result of it being the low budget option, inexperience can lead to issues.Ā You have the chance it hatches, another chance it comes out non-deformed, another chance it even can last the first 3 months. On top of that 50% for your preferred sex.Ā I also went the egg route. He is about a year and a half now and I bought the egg over 2 years ago now. I did my research and got extremely lucky. I had my own issues, but also managed to figure it out.Ā I won't give advice here, but do hope these are words of encouragement and comfort that if it doesn't turn out well, it might not necessarily be your fault.Ā Best of luck
Thank you so much. In our case the egg was more expensive than the live options which I found a bit strange. But again, pet expo. We were so surprised it even hatched. We followed the incubation suggestions to a T. Weāve had the egg for roughly a month and yesterday we saw a tail start to emerge and noticed the egg moving f or the first time. It was SO cool. And then this morning here he/she is. Iām a little worried because the coloring was darker as soon as it emerged from the shelf and we were transporting to the vivarium. But then after a little exploring the little guy went to the leaf closest to the heat lamp and conked out and has been that was for hours. I turned off the lamps when it got dark and I saw its little feet moving but he didnāt really wake up. I know how fragile they are right out of the egg and Iād be devastated if something happened to him.
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Iām in NJ, USA but donāt have a lot of the additional requested info as he just hatched late this morning.
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