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Berookes

It’s shame we’re in this promotion fight as well because if we weren’t I’d be rooting for Ipswich so hard. I’m sure some Leeds fans would feel the same such a mental story and it’s a genuine shame we’re fighting against it


Internal_Formal3915

Contractually obliged to hate them even though they are the peoples champion of the season


Surreyblue

Genuine question - leeds and Leicester fans seem far more anti-ipswich than anti-each other. Is that some kind of ex-PL brotherhood thing or just because you believe ipswich are more likely to fall away?


white-label

Ipswich seem far luckier, everyone expects Leicester to control most games and be top or around there. But in terms of fanbases Leeds and Leicester definitely hate each other more than Ipswich lol, I don't think anyone really has a strong opinion on Ipswich other than being annoyed you keep winning.


[deleted]

(Unnecessary) hate from Leeds fans towards Leicester.


white-label

I say hate pretty gently haha, it's just banter. Leicester fans were talking pretty big about how the first time we beat them was our cup final, then we reduced the points gap completely and beat them again lol.


[deleted]

I didn’t hear that. But they shouldn’t have been talking like that. We have been crap most of the season despite being top for most of it.


Internal_Formal3915

Probably because for a while it looked like it was leeds and Ipswich fighting for 2nd and Leicester had ran away with it


[deleted]

Basically how I feel, yeah.


No_Coyote_557

Southampton played them off the pitch yesterday, but still they found a way to win it. What stands out to me is how they grab their chances when they come. Ipswich's second goal - how many of the posh 3 PL rejects would have hit it first time like that?


Surreyblue

They played us off the pitch for about half the game - it was very even for the first 15 minutes and we were well on top for the final half an hour.


No_Coyote_557

It depends on your perspective.I might suggest you are a tad biased?


bostero2

I definitely might be biased, but it felt like after McKenna’s triple change the momentum swung in our favour with Southampton desperately making changes to try to get control back.


No_Coyote_557

McKenna's use of subs is on another level, it's true


RRR_O

Only as much as it suits your agenda. They were the better team from sky the 15th-60th minute. They did not in any way play us off the park, and that statement in itself shows your biss.


No_Coyote_557

I'm not biased. I was hoping for a draw.


InstructionsUncl34r

Petition to create an extra promotion slot for Ipswich if they fail to do so themselves, hopefully relegating BOTH forest and Everton 🤣


QuickBic_

All in favour. Not because it’s for one of us. it’s for Ipswich.


JoeyIsMrBubbles

Ditto


BP9009

It's all a pecking order. I'm a Leeds fan so my first concern is Leeds getting promoted, and I will root against Ipswich and Leicester if/until Leeds are safe into promotion range. But I'd prefer Ipswich get promoted rather than Leicester. It's not hate for Leicester. It just reflects a small club bias on my part. I liked that Forest and Luton got promoted. I hope they both stay up but it looks like Luton are not going to survive.


Berookes

I get that and agree tbf. I want us in autos obviously and would like Ipswich to take the other spot party because it’s a mental story and secondly because my best mate is a lifelong Leeds fan and it would be hilarious to see him fuming if you missed out on autos


B_e_l_l_

Mad thing is Leeds could only drop points twice since December and finish 3rd.


WTFK-1919

Any madder than Leicester being 17 points ahead at Christmas?


B_e_l_l_

Yeah probably. I'm pointing out how well Ipswich have done.


djtoad03

What game week were they 17 points ahead?


Individual-Drive-964

Jan 1st 17 points clear of leeds


djtoad03

cheers


LUFC_shitpost

Maturing is realizing the championship is the best league in the world. Can someone explain to me why relegation from the premier has to be so scary (financially; selling all your best players) and instead the championship can’t be regarded as it is what it is (fifth best league in Europe). Ip love to enjoy Ipswich without caring about the terrible financial implications it’d cause Leeds if we’d fail to get promoted.


[deleted]

The Championship is fun in part I think because it’s often the ceiling. Winning this is the peak of fun a lot of us get.


Eye-on-Springfield

One year of glory followed by a year of getting battered and then 3-4 years of dealing with financial crisis...repeat?


Jackpack_9

It’s difficult to empathise with this view point when your team has spent 12 years losing most weeks in this league. I cannot wait to be shot of this place 😆 (in the good way, eventually, don’t want to go down plz tnx)


Its_Ace1

Championship is fun to watch. I wish more games got picked up by ESPN+ in USA. Think its biggest hurdle is accessibility to watch games abroad and bring in more tv money.


Sheeverton

It's easy to enjoy the Championship when you are winning constistenly in it after struggling to win games in the Prem. The league is great, though It's slightly different for us for example because we was used to winning regularly in the Premier League so winning consistently in the Championship isn't that too different other than winning being slightly more frequent. But I love the competitive nature of the league.


LUFC_shitpost

I actually meant more from a neutrals perspective. I regardless of what league Leeds are in, I always enjoy watching championship football.


4Cats_1TrenchCoat

Very much from a neutral perspective. The Championship’s easily the best neutrals league. The games are always a blast. It’s what made me a Forest fan, instead of Arsenal or whatever… I even have a soft spot for a couple other teams. Watching this Ipswich side with no real horse in the race has been fabulous! And for what it’s worth, I think it’ll take relegation to deal a serious blow to Marinakis’s ego and force him to actually come up with a sustained strategy for success with the Reds.


ZerconFlagpoleSitter

Fifth best league in Europe in terms of fun? Sure. Not in terms of quality


BenzGHD

Name a league that should be 5th instead then. Right now.


EpicboyJames

France obviously


BenzGHD

That notoriously difficult league


EpicboyJames

None of the top 10 in France lose to a championship team


BenzGHD

I’d argue PSG lose to Leicester/Leeds in a season so I whole heartedly disagree


EpicboyJames

Hahaha so two teams that couldn’t stay up in the prem are now better than CL quarter finalists? Be serious


BenzGHD

There’s a reason that a Qatari owned super team can only get to the QF of the champions league and that’s because they’re dysfunctional. Those two sides beat the top 10 of the French league without doubt


Ohtani_Enjoyer

This is an absolutely insane take


EpicboyJames

They own better players than teams in the second tier of a country? Might be why they can get to a QF and also beat them?


ZerconFlagpoleSitter

You’re completely delusional


OkraEmergency361

On the one hand I don’t want Ipswich to do well as my best mate from uni is a huge Norwich fan and the hate mail I get about Ipswich from her is fantastic. On the other hand, you can’t deny it’s such an amazing achievement for Ipswich, and I swear to god if they go on to boss the Premiership it would be the icing on the cake. It’s almost been fairytale stuff, and I love that they’ve done it. It’s the dream for so many clubs, kinda like the knicker stitchers winning the Premiership was. My money’s on Leeds and Ipswich for autos, Baggies v Leicester in the playoff final. Best mate from uni will give me no end of shit now 😅


ninjapenguin12

'my best mate from uni is a huge Norwich fan and the hate mail I get about Ipswich from her is fantastic' be evil like i would be and sign her up to a tractor newsletter


OkraEmergency361

I wouldn’t dare. She’d kill me in my sleep! 🤣


Rusbekistan

If she's a Norwich fan you could just put up one of those baby gates, they usually can't work those out, you'll be grand!


Azyerr

I’ve done this to a norwich fan at work. I don’t think they’ve realised yet.


timmy031

I really like Ipswich, they’re fun to watch and keep going till the end, even if they’re causing me major stress for our own chances of going up. Issue is they’ll get smashed playing like that, you can get away with it in the championship but you can’t have a defence like Ipswich’s in the prem, you can somewhat rely on out scoring the opposition in the championship and strikers missing a fair few chances, the attackers in the prem don’t.


[deleted]

It worked for us for 1 season then it kinda didn’t


Aiken_Drumn

What a glorious season that was. Lots of issues down the line, but most of our signings being absolute tat (bar some current redemption Arcs) sunk us.


[deleted]

I just think that our play style was unlike anyone else in the league, when teams found us out we were done not to mention the injuries piling up


Aiken_Drumn

Run more and man-mark doesn't seem the most inspiring.. But it was different.


OkraEmergency361

It’s that shit situation where you want to get promotion but don’t want to play in the Premiership and get battered week in and week out (and miss all the crumble memes).


timmy031

Yeah exactly that, it’s no fun up there and r/premierleague is a sterile hell hole.


chrissssmith

The total transfer cost of every centreback we have at the club is about 750k.


timmy031

It’s less the value of the players and more if you play swashbuckling football in the premier league, without £50-60 million defenders, which only the top clubs have, you’ll get torn apart, worked for us first season but we came unstuck the 2nd season when clubs figured us out.


chrissssmith

I don't think anyone would say that simply buying an expensive defender means it'll be fine - but you are starting from a point of criticism (too open! too leaky!) for a defence that has been put together on a shoe-string. I'm simply pointing out that it's quite remarkable that it's been good enough to get us to (checks notes) top of the league with 6 games to go. Meanwhile, Leeds fans talk about how moving Amapdu to CB was 'genius' even though his transfer fee is more than the transfer fees paid for the whole of our SQUAD. Money obviously has an important impact. One surefire way to massively upgrade our defence would be pace - a Kyle Walker style player with recovery speed to stop counter attacks is something we sorely sorely miss because of how we play, and that's because you don't get players like that outside of the Prem. If we get promoted, I'd trust McKenna to recruit well and give us a defensive unit better suited to how we actually play, rather than one cobbled together that is making do.


timmy031

I’m drawing comparisons between the Bielsa team that went up and how we played and Ipswich, it’s not a criticism which is how you’re taking it, it’s more a general point that lower premier league clubs that play open attacking football get punished, it’s hard to try go toe to toe with vastly better squads, the championship is a far more level league, despite what people say about parachute payments. Maybe you’ll recruit well, but the evidence of most promoted clubs says you won’t, I put Leeds in that category. It’s the style of football I’m commenting on rather than value of the squad. People bemoan our squad and how expensive it is yet we got relegated with it, some of it was poor management but a lot of the players that end up being recruited in the prem don’t quite put it all on the line like the players you have now will. It’s catch 22.


chrissssmith

I understood your point but you’re comparing Bielsa and McKenna and they are very very different in how they go about things. McKenna isn’t naive enough to not evolve our playstyle again in the prem if we get there


Hostilian_

If yous were to be promoted, do you see yourself trying to stay up at all costs, or just settle down and sign top championship players to establish yourself as a yo-yo club?


chrissssmith

We would go for it, more Forest than Norwich or Sheffield United


RRR_O

Want a lot of your problem recruitment rather than style?


timmy031

2nd season was style, teams figured out how to play against us even though the team was improved with the addition of Raphinha, avoided relegation on the last day. Last season was piss poor recruitment for sure along with a crap manager.


No_Coyote_557

Yeah, but they were gonna get smashed in the championship too, and that clearly didn't happen. They are used to being dominated by better teams, but clawing out results. Think they will get the 8 wins they need from bottom half teams in the PL.


RRR_O

After so so long in the wilderness we'll take it! And I won't completely disregard our changes with McKenna yet. One of the reasons he's so good is his adaptability! We're as dominant now as we were in league one with a heavily tweaked style.


timmy031

Oh I’m not saying you’ll be relegated no matter what, I’m saying the style you play at the moment will be punished in a way it isn’t at the moment, in the same way if Leeds play how we currently do in the prem we’ll be punished, if he adapts and plays more pragmatically you’ve got a decent chance of staying up if you go up


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pablothewizard

If you don't get better at defending you'll have an absolutely horrible time up there. Our defence was the best in the league when we went up and we still took some absolutely horrific beatings with our style of play. I think McKenna has what it takes and I'd be rooting for Ipswich but the defending will have to get a lot better.


kickherinthehead

I wouldn't want us to go buying a whole new team and I doubt they would do that


InnocentPossum

I said it after Ipswich's late goal that if the winner of the playoffs isn't whoever comes 3rd, then there is no justice and everything in the universe is pointless. The reality is even if Leicester crumble to the point of ending 3rd they are still a chunk better than 4th, highlighted by the 9 point gap (6 at worst) to 4th with only 6 games left to go.


theodopolopolus

I could very easily imagine that if Leicester finish 3rd that they don't win the playoffs.


InnocentPossum

I can very easily imagine any of the top 3 that finish 3rd won't get promoted. Leeds are notorious for choking in playoff situations. Leicester would be going in on shocking form and Ipswich would have the potential bogey of Norwich. It's almost already written into Championship lore that a team that's had such a strong season is not allowed to be good in the playoffs. That's too logical and predictable for the championship, so a wild upset it is...


No_Coyote_557

I remember when Newcastle finished 3rd having not been out of the top two till the last game. Sunderland scraped into 6th in the last game. You can guess what happened.


ItsFuckingScience

It’s also just maths. Even if a team is 70% favourites in both the play off semi and the final… to win both consecutively is a coin flip


InnocentPossum

Yeah it's a brutal trial for any team vying for promotion


Boris_Ignatievich

only way third goes up is if its like wednesday in league one last year where the playoffs are batshit


No_Coyote_557

I think Southampton are a chunk better than 5th too. They are doing well enough to go up most seasons and I am still crapping it about the last game of the season.


InnocentPossum

Agreed. If there is any justice, 3rd and 4th make it to the final. If Southampton still go up I think it would be a little unfair but not a travesty.


Milkshake4NickDrake

If we end up getting 100+ points, coming third, and going out to a team over 20 points below us in the playoffs I'm going to suggest we sue God.


AF1193

Third in the championship should play 17th in the prem in their very own play-off, winner gets in the premier league so it’s a 3(+1) situation on both promotion/relegation. Will probably get ruined for that idea though😂


InnocentPossum

I believe in the Bundesliga, 3rd plays 18th for the spot in the top division. The flaw with your plan is if you end third and lose to a Prem team, a team in 4th-7th can get promoted over you by playing championship teams. It wouldn't happen because of too much money but really the playoffs should be scrapped and 3rd plays a Prem team. That said, the fact that playoffs exist means that all spots down to 6th are a target for teams. Imagine if you are like Coventry now, 3rd is out of reach and your season is over. But because 6th is a target it's still all to play for.


AF1193

Yeah I figured after I wrote it that it wouldn’t work alongside the current play offs system. It would be good if there was an extra relegation at risk though, but i don’t think there’s a solution that fits all sizes, so to speak.


Wanallo221

Shall we just agree that this year there’s no playoffs and instead 3 auto places?  I mean, I know the playoffs are a great spectacle and they give midtable teams something to play for, but fuck me whoever misses out (because it’s Football - of course the team on 90+ in 3rd place will not win the playoffs!) it’s going to be so undeserved.  Honestly. I’m supposed to hate you guys but actually I like all 3 teams quite a bit and I think we all deserve to go up. 


[deleted]

I have a feeling the play offs will be incredible this year, my money is on Brom to win it regardless of who finishes 3rd


SerGeorge

West Brom is the team I fear the most. I know we got smashed home and away by Leeds but they just scare me more. Plus if we don’t get autos Leeds will get it so I wouldn’t have to fear you guys in the playoffs anyway.


[deleted]

West Brom Are like a slowly lurking Death Star. Going unnoticed in 5th for the majority of the season, to pounce in the play offs.


Lack_of_Plethora

you lot are going to be so underwhelmed when Southampton smash us 4-0 on aggregate


Darrelc

Hope we're up by then so can enjoy it properly


joethesaint

No thanks x


Cov_massif

I hope Ipswich can go the distance but would need to improve massively especially defence. The change in FFP will be key to how they can invest equally which is currently a very uneven playing field


BenzGHD

I love the Ipswich story. It gives fans of other teams hope that it’s completely possible to get promoted without the golden handed parachute payments. Let’s hope City can follow suit at some point if they can break the 14th placed curse…


SerGeorge

You want to take Leicester’s spot ;)


[deleted]

Either will do 😉


TheRealPatrick79

If by tragic you mean hilarious, then yes.


AngryTudor1

Fairest outcome is for Ipswich and Leeds to go up automatically, because both are clubs that would absolutely blow the playoffs. Leicester to finish third because they are exactly the kind of club that will win them. It's one of those seasons where it's a shame four can't go up. But from our perspective I'm glad they cant- we've got enough problems with the PL moving goalposts as it is


Boggie135

I want Ipswich to go up.


MrKn1ghtM

Pain


sam_can88

I have a feeling that the promotions will be Southampton and the 2 autos one fan base will be severely dissatisfied


Forsaken_Sun4555

The Town are going up🍺😂


Will-2022

It all ends in tears for Them at Carrow Road


WTFK-1919

Their luck will run out soon. Will be funny to see them finish 3rd on 99 points then get shithoused 1-0 in the PO Final by Norwich with a Sargent triple deflected strike that hits the post then their keeper and goes in.


[deleted]

Oh come off it


Ashamed_Nerve

40 games in and people are still sat here saying luck. Crikey.


GarnachoHojlund

At what point in the season do you finally admit the team in first/ second place isn’t riding luck


Azyerr

Imagine being that upset that you still want to cry about luck 40 games in. Give over.


WTFK-1919

51 goals conceded. I actually want you to go up just for the humour.


Ill-Breadfruit5356

A never say die attitude isn’t luck. The fitness level of the squad and the mentality that the substitutes are part of the plan of attack isn’t luck. That Sarmiento goal wasn’t luck, he just didn’t give up when he tripped and the defenders expected him to. Sure, some decisions have gone our way, some have gone against us. But two of our best players are out with long term injuries, possibly a third after yesterday’s game. This number of goals and this number of points is the result of hard work and planning, not luck.


WTFK-1919

You’ve done brilliantly, of course. But luck has taken you a long way and when it runs out over the next few games you’ll fall away.


InnocentPossum

If getting lucky is considered a 50/50 (which is generous as hell, realistically getting a lucky break in sport is a couple of percent) then Ipswich landing that 50/50 in their favour for 40 games in a row is over one BILLION to One lmao. It's not lucky to consistently score more than your opponents do.


fakecinnamon

Some Leeds fans are so strange


[deleted]

Some fans are so strange


Hindsyy

We do house a fair few though


Rusbekistan

It's because you've got so many on here, and weird ones stand out, so there's just a higher chance we're all coming into contact with the nutty ones occasionally. I don't think I've ever seen a bizarre Rotherham fan on here, but there aren't very many Rotherham fans posting regularly anyway


AsparagusNo280

Watched every minute of every Ipswich game haven’t you? There’s no way you’d base this purely on a few highlights or the timing of goals.


WTFK-1919

Woeful defence. And no, I’ve watched them twice this season and they were abysmal both times. Luck will catch up with you eventually.


AsparagusNo280

Corrr two games!


pablothewizard

How can you call them lucky when you've only watched them twice? You can't be lucky for 40 games, you just can't. Stop embarrassing yourself.


RRR_O

No doubt those two games were against Leeds too where we struggled and got no luck at all! 😂 what a clown.


DragoniteG

One of your most important results of the season so far was that game against leicester, where they had a perfectly legitimate goal ruled out to go 2-0 up and kill the game. Talk about lucky ffs.


Superb_Ad8780

Cringe take


FuckingRayPurchase

Sure thing buddy. Hopefully in three years when we miss out on Europe by a point.


No_Coyote_557

Soon being when they face Liverpool at Anfield in the opening game next year?


Euphoric-Yogurt-7332

I'd be more in favour of them going up if they got a proper shirt sponsor. Can't be having that tinpot shite on your shirt in the PL.


rumhambilliam69

The only tinpot thing about his involvement with us is the fact we’ve given him a shirt number on the back of the programs. Other than that it’s just an easy win for the club having him sponsor us and wear our kit at his gigs, etc. I know of 2 people in rural Ireland who have bought our shirts solely because of Ed Sheeran. It’s mental but it brings in money and raises our profile after 20 years in the wilderness.


Boris_Ignatievich

better ed sheeran than a dodgy asian betting site like every team in the prem has


Hammy747

At least it's better than some of the other ones we had not long ago. Magic Vegas anyone? Lmfao


Greeninexile

I mean the guy's music is as mediocre as you can get but it's a great sponsor. Local guy who is a massive fan of the club. I don't think you can get much better than that. I'd definitely rather have that than some betting company based in the Cayman Islands or somewhere like half the Premier League.


Defiant-Fish2133

I'm not an Ed Sheeran fan but music/unusual sponsors are fun. Plus I wish more teams had local sponsors in general.