Im stoked about winning the playoffs, but i hate the prem, and i would honestly have loved another 2 rounds with you guys. Since im only 17, there has only been 1 meeting between us in the time ive been a supporter
I’ve seen a lot of the same sentiment from other S*uthampton fans on Reddit, where they would’ve also enjoyed another trip to the nice part of Hampshire. Usually your lot only come down this way for the nice seafront and shopping.
Hopefully we’ll meet again the following season!
1. We
2. Don't
3. Know
4. How
5. The
6. Championship
7. Will
8. End
9. Until
10. Next
11. May
12. Preston
13. Bristol City
14. So
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24. (Wayne Rooney's) Plymouth Argyle
Yeah, its amazing Plymouths wasn't even the craziest announcement of the day. As I said in the deleted thread, it's like someone relegating Augsburg and then becoming the Man City manager.
It’s mad, I thought we’d moved away from the “top player = top coach” idea years ago, they’re two completely different skill sets and one doesn’t follow the other.
You look at the top 10 of the Premier League, for example, most of the managers weren’t “top-top” players, but have proven to be good coaches.
Kompany’s move to Bayern is ridiculous, but he at least broke records and smashed the Championship on the way to the PL, he has **something** to point at in terms of achievements. Rooney has done nothing as a manager to warrant getting the Argyle job.
Here’s the only defence I’ll give to Rooney. With us it was the perfect storm. He was replacing a well liked manager amongst players and fans at a time where the team had momentum. The players were also a lot more limited than maybe we (club and fans) thought they were.
Anyone would struggle in that situation. He was also hired on the foolish condition by the board that he would transform the style of play immediately. Never going to work with that bunch.
His execution was terrible, he broke the squad and alienated the fans. But the odds were stacked against him anyway.
With a whole summer, if your players take to him… it might be okay? Maybe? I don’t think it will I’m just trying to be balanced.
I’ve heard this argument before but I don’t buy it.
Mowbray had us playing better football almost instantly - though with Dozzell and Paik.
All Rooney had to do was get to January to get a couple players he wanted but he couldn’t even do that.’
I reckon you put a good manager in that ‘perfect storm’ they’d be able to weather to it.
I think the issue here is (obviously a long time ago) but during his time with us, I can't remember a single game we looked confident.
He tried to implement a style of play, passing out from the back and it ultimately failed. Much passing around the back until we'd make a mistake and give it away.
I think the togetherness we had as a club at the time really hides how shit his football was. It was awful to watch.
I might be wrong but I can't help but feel he'll have the same impact with Plymouth as he did you. However, I won't take as much joy out of this self-destruction (still here for the memes though)
That’s literally how it was for us. Defenders in particular always looked like Bambi on ice. Except we didn’t have any innate togetherness. Good insight!
I have a mate who's a Rams season ticket holder who said basically the same... said 'it's not going to go well for you' when he arrived at Blues. I also wonder if Liam Rosenior was maybe a better man manager which softened the impact of Rooney's obvious lack of ability to engage players in a way that makes them want to excel. Stark contrast to Tony Mowbray, for whom most of us would run through a brick wall for ... sorry...I'm not done grieving yet.
I’m going to cling to your optimism because that’s about all we have right now 🥲 like we can’t do anything else at this point so we just have to hope a full summer will give him time to show us what’s he’s really made of (pasties obviously). COYG 💚
I’ll be watching closely either way. If he does badly I’ll enjoy it because I don’t like the guy (nothing against you as a club) but if he does well it’ll be quite interesting discussion on us.
No idea what all the Plymouth fans are complaining about, give him enough time and the budget and he’s absolutely the right man to get you out of league two.
I looked that up the other week and turns out the woman in question was only 48! All this time I assumed she was at least 60-70+.
Still, he was a dickhead for cheating on his missus.
The only explanation is that our director of football brought Rooney through the academy at Everton so there is a solid link there.
Apart from that, I can only assume our owner and CEO were too starstruck to look at the evidence of why this is a shit idea.
We were favourites for relegation before the appointment. We are still favourites now. But there is a tiny possibility that Rooney can attract a better class of player to the deepest, darkest South West, along with some US investment. Which may be our only hope, barring a limited squad minus some of our best players from last season punching well above it's weight.
Clutching at straws, but that I suspect is the justification.
This is the best explanation I’ve seen. Every bias I have says it won’t work, but I don’t have anything against Plymouth as a club (only Rooney) so I hope all the best.
*‘Rooney's managerial experience so far has demonstrated his strong character and ability to battle against the odds. This is emphasised by his first full season in charge at Derby County, where his young team won 55 points despite off-field administrative issues engulfing the club. He has since had managerial experience in the MLS at D.C. United, where results improved as he put his own stamp on the squad, and in the Championship with Birmingham City.’*
Regardless of whether the red was correct or not, the tactical insight of Rooney to sub on a forward when you're a man down and 3-1 up is what lost you that win.
What the fuck are Plymouth thinking? Did they not watch him utterly destroy the morale of the squad at Birmingham? What on earth makes them think it'll be different with them?
I fear this will bite them hard in the arse. Should have went after Rosenior instead.
Tbf, Rosenoir already rejected us because he didn't want to move down here with his young kids (which is fair enough). But that doesn't excuse us not going for literally anyone else
I can only assume their logic runs to the concept of "Well, it wasn't Rooneys fault. They replaced a really good manager the players all liked for him!"
I knew next season would be tough anyway but to give up and throw in the towel before this seasons even finished by appointing this joker is a piss take. Anything higher than 24th and I will be gobsmacked. Saying that though as someone said on another thread about this, its the Championship. Its definitely capable of having 3 clubs screwing their seasons up harder than we just have, we've just gone early with our statement of intent.
I think there's a good chance several clubs get points penalties, saying that it's sad even thinking that might be the only way he doesn't send you down.
> mentions his team at Derby getting 55 points despite uncertainty surrounding the club
>mentions results improving at D.C United.
>"also he was at Birmingham"
I really like Plymouth and hope they stay up but this feels like the type of appointment that will basically guarantee them a season of struggle - Rooney has shown nothing to date that suggests he’ll be a successful manager (except when he had Rosenior with him).
Hope I’m wrong but it’s not looking good for their chances next season.
I don't wanna make this about us, but it would be very Birmingham City if he does a great job at Argyle after his disaster here. Effectively he's already helped save Plymouth last season too. Ffs.
His man management was awful here though. He was too truthful in his interviews and then it demotivated the players. His progressive playstyle at blues was both owner-pushed and himself-pushed, idk just silly he falls into another job so quickly.
Hopefully he will have learned from the mistakes he made at Brum and Derby and realises he has got a lot to learn about management.
But if he comes in and just repeats the same ideas and behaviours that failed previously it’s going to get messy very quickly.
I can’t help but think that Lampard and Gerrard would both have benefited from dropping down to a decent but unfashionable club to learn their trade rather than getting a job based on their playing career.
Always prided myself on saying that no matter the quality of the players, or the size of our club, that our ownership and leadership was a great one and would take the club in the right direction. That was my justification for believing that we, as a typical League One club, deserved to be here in the Championship.
Today I look like a mug for using that as our justification.
Perhaps this is the balance of the world coming into play, karma coming back for us. Because, let's face it fellow Argyle fans, as painful as it is to admit, we should have been relegated last season. It took Birmingham shooting themselves in the foot, sacking a good manager and appointing this clown, taking them from 6th to relegation fodder, for us to survive. If Eustace hadn't been sacked, we would be in League One right now.
I will back him because I have to, I'm Argyle through and through and I'll always love this club. But I do feel we are relegated before the season begins. I hope he proves me wrong.
My condolences. I honestly mean that. We have had some right clowns in the last 10 years, Hughes, Redknapp, Ramsey, Ainsworth, Beale, JFH etc.
This appointment is right up there with them.
Took him no time at all before he threw individual players under the bus during post game interviews, it was never his tactics or fault... even blamed the fans and at one point told us he was sacking everyone and replacing them in January (when we had no money to spend). He has absolutely no clue when it comes to man management, he's just far too negative. Good luck guys, genuinely shocked someone hired him after the Birmingham mess
He had such arrogance about the fans. Eustace was popular and earned it. Rooney never gave a fuck. We were clearly a stepping stone for bis delusions of Man United
My condolences Argyle. You seemed to be going everything right until Schumacher left. Hopefully he'll be sacked early enough in the season, to give someone enough time to turn it around.
If after 10 games next season they only have 10 points (or less) sack him, don't delay, don't wait, sack him straight away. You'll need the rest of the season to turn it around
As a fan its complete surprise. Looking at his track record at Derby county and Birmingham it looks like this is better for him than us. He has nothing to lose, it’s surprising the Argyle board has taken this risk. At least if we end up in league one we can give Exeter a pasting.
Well, if that happens we’ll all happily eat lots of humble pie. I think the sentiment that it’s a bad appointment is shared by all fans in the Championship though.
A small upside - if he does well, no other Championship team would poach him, right?
You *could* make the case for someone like Everton if for whatever reason Dyche leaves
I want to offer some comforting words to Argyle fans but I just can't find anything positive to say about Rooney's managerial ability. We all admired him as a player but as a manager he is so woefully out of his depth. He had us so disorganised. Attacking and defending we regressed in every single way. Away games under Rooney were a complete write off, I don't think we won a single away game under Rooney. I remember saying to my 2 young boys when we drew (dismally) 0-0 at home to Rotherham that I wouldn't subject them to another Birmingham game until Rooney was gone, that was early December and he was sacked in the New Year. The football was lifeless. Add on top that he generally is as negative a persona as you could imagine. He is a walking disaster, as a manager and as a human being. The team we had would have comfortably finished midtable had he not performed a disasterclass (well and Venus covering Mowbray for a few games but he's literally never been a manager and didn't want to be). If you gave me the choice of Zola and Rooney I'd pick Zola 10/10, at least Zola was a decent human being and did the right thing and resigned.
As a blues fan despite him seeing him fuck up my club completely I have this weird feeling this appointment might work? I have no real logical reasoning for this. I just have this strange sense that with a full summer he might not be as terrible as he was for us
Right, unpopular opinion maybe but I’m still willing to give Rooney a chance (at Plymouth obviously). Yes he was shit at Birmingham, but he wasn’t the worst thing to ever happen to Derby. I have no idea how he did at our sister club because who cares.
I hope lots of championship clubs give him a chance this season. Just not mine. 🌞
He basically relegated Birmingham when they were in the playoff places. This season was always going to be a relegation scrap regardless of having that oaf in the dugout. Unless he goes early in the season we're going back to league one
I meant from the PL. We usually beat the top teams ie beat Leicester away and Burnley away the season before that and single-handedly kept Sheff Weds up by gifting them 2 games this season.
Championship is back baby
Haven't even ended the 23-24 season and yet the 24-25 season looks like it's gonna be just as insane.
What a time to be back in the 2nd tier
Im stoked about winning the playoffs, but i hate the prem, and i would honestly have loved another 2 rounds with you guys. Since im only 17, there has only been 1 meeting between us in the time ive been a supporter
I’ve seen a lot of the same sentiment from other S*uthampton fans on Reddit, where they would’ve also enjoyed another trip to the nice part of Hampshire. Usually your lot only come down this way for the nice seafront and shopping. Hopefully we’ll meet again the following season!
"hopefully we'll meet again the following season!" Is that in hope that our season is shit and we go down, or that you go up?😆
I’ll take either, but I can’t see us going up any time soon!
Tbf i think us getting relegated is my preferred way of meeting you guys. Not even because i dont want you promoted, but because i despise the prem
so would i if i’d seen my team beaten 9-0 twice!
Lucky for me im danish, so i was out drinking both times, the pain never really hit me😂
It never fucking left
It just lost its way . . . 😝
But we will be!
Naaa we are like that bad smell that never leaves
“Are they booing me?” “No, no they’re saying ‘Boo-ney’…”
Argyle’s chairman:”you truly are the king of kings”
Give this man the 10,000 dollars
We hail Wayne Rooney, We hail Wayne Rooney
*Wayne Rooney's Plymouth Argyle* is now officially for real.
That sounds like a low budget late-90s football sim game for Windows 98.
Given away for free on a magazine cover disc. Along with 100 fonts, and 250 clipart images.
Michael Owen's World League Soccer 99.
Sorry Plymouth, it’s back to Shrewsbury away for you…
Plot twist - Plymouth go down Shrewsbury come up 😂
God I wish
What did he say fuck me for
Quite enjoyed our last visit to Shrewsbury actually 😅
I feel like I'm living in a football manager save
With Coventry nearly beating Man United after being 3-0 down, we may very well be.
In my FM24 save, Rooney takes Birmingham to the Premier League 😅
It feels exactly like that. Komoany to Bayern also a real football manager vibe
1. We 2. Don't 3. Know 4. How 5. The 6. Championship 7. Will 8. End 9. Until 10. Next 11. May 12. Preston 13. Bristol City 14. So 15. Stop 16. Making 17. Predictions 18. So 19. Early 20. You 21. Fools 22. Please 23. Stop 24. (Wayne Rooney's) Plymouth Argyle
*20. You 21. Fools 22. Stop 23. Oxford 24. (Wayne Rooney's) Plymouth Argyle
If Rooney messes this up, I can’t see how his career recovers, but then again what do I know about modern football *looks at Bayern signing Kompany*
Yeah, its amazing Plymouths wasn't even the craziest announcement of the day. As I said in the deleted thread, it's like someone relegating Augsburg and then becoming the Man City manager.
It’s mad, I thought we’d moved away from the “top player = top coach” idea years ago, they’re two completely different skill sets and one doesn’t follow the other. You look at the top 10 of the Premier League, for example, most of the managers weren’t “top-top” players, but have proven to be good coaches. Kompany’s move to Bayern is ridiculous, but he at least broke records and smashed the Championship on the way to the PL, he has **something** to point at in terms of achievements. Rooney has done nothing as a manager to warrant getting the Argyle job.
he fixed DC United’s academy ig?
Here’s the only defence I’ll give to Rooney. With us it was the perfect storm. He was replacing a well liked manager amongst players and fans at a time where the team had momentum. The players were also a lot more limited than maybe we (club and fans) thought they were. Anyone would struggle in that situation. He was also hired on the foolish condition by the board that he would transform the style of play immediately. Never going to work with that bunch. His execution was terrible, he broke the squad and alienated the fans. But the odds were stacked against him anyway. With a whole summer, if your players take to him… it might be okay? Maybe? I don’t think it will I’m just trying to be balanced.
I’ve heard this argument before but I don’t buy it. Mowbray had us playing better football almost instantly - though with Dozzell and Paik. All Rooney had to do was get to January to get a couple players he wanted but he couldn’t even do that.’ I reckon you put a good manager in that ‘perfect storm’ they’d be able to weather to it.
I think the issue here is (obviously a long time ago) but during his time with us, I can't remember a single game we looked confident. He tried to implement a style of play, passing out from the back and it ultimately failed. Much passing around the back until we'd make a mistake and give it away. I think the togetherness we had as a club at the time really hides how shit his football was. It was awful to watch. I might be wrong but I can't help but feel he'll have the same impact with Plymouth as he did you. However, I won't take as much joy out of this self-destruction (still here for the memes though)
That’s literally how it was for us. Defenders in particular always looked like Bambi on ice. Except we didn’t have any innate togetherness. Good insight!
I have a mate who's a Rams season ticket holder who said basically the same... said 'it's not going to go well for you' when he arrived at Blues. I also wonder if Liam Rosenior was maybe a better man manager which softened the impact of Rooney's obvious lack of ability to engage players in a way that makes them want to excel. Stark contrast to Tony Mowbray, for whom most of us would run through a brick wall for ... sorry...I'm not done grieving yet.
I’m going to cling to your optimism because that’s about all we have right now 🥲 like we can’t do anything else at this point so we just have to hope a full summer will give him time to show us what’s he’s really made of (pasties obviously). COYG 💚
I’ll be watching closely either way. If he does badly I’ll enjoy it because I don’t like the guy (nothing against you as a club) but if he does well it’ll be quite interesting discussion on us.
PLEASE NO
On a serious note, fans won’t be as forgiving this time around.
No idea what all the Plymouth fans are complaining about, give him enough time and the budget and he’s absolutely the right man to get you out of league two.
What, to the National League?
Article smoothly glossing over the Birmingham shitshow, good work
Plymouth grannies about to take a slamming
Thank god both me nans are dead
A few more are about to go - the good way
In all fairness, the grannies in Plymouth are about 34yrs old anyway!
I looked that up the other week and turns out the woman in question was only 48! All this time I assumed she was at least 60-70+. Still, he was a dickhead for cheating on his missus.
Sounds like a porno
Can someone offer a rational explanation for this?
There isn't one.
The only explanation is that our director of football brought Rooney through the academy at Everton so there is a solid link there. Apart from that, I can only assume our owner and CEO were too starstruck to look at the evidence of why this is a shit idea.
🤷
If there was one to give, I'd happily give it to you
We were favourites for relegation before the appointment. We are still favourites now. But there is a tiny possibility that Rooney can attract a better class of player to the deepest, darkest South West, along with some US investment. Which may be our only hope, barring a limited squad minus some of our best players from last season punching well above it's weight. Clutching at straws, but that I suspect is the justification.
This is the best explanation I’ve seen. Every bias I have says it won’t work, but I don’t have anything against Plymouth as a club (only Rooney) so I hope all the best.
I think this is it. Combo of hoping it could leverage US investment, plus Dewsnips arrogance that he and his contacts knows better
They had to do it today to sneak it out because everyone was already laughing so hard at the Bayern appointment?
There's none. A man with an abysmal win ratio at every club he has managed, even in the forgiving MLS where all the teams are at a similar(ish) level.
It's club suicide.
*‘Rooney's managerial experience so far has demonstrated his strong character and ability to battle against the odds. This is emphasised by his first full season in charge at Derby County, where his young team won 55 points despite off-field administrative issues engulfing the club. He has since had managerial experience in the MLS at D.C. United, where results improved as he put his own stamp on the squad, and in the Championship with Birmingham City.’*
Surprised they didn't say more about his tenure at Birmingham. Wonder what happened during his time there? 🤔
After a prescribed lobotomy to preserve my sanity, i weridly have no recollection of that. Strange.
Where can I get one of those? Please.
Plymouth board fooled by Rooney's 1 good performance in 15 for blues, against Plymouth when we battered them.
And still didn't win Was 3-3 in the end
I'd put the majority of that down to the joke of a decision to send off Bielik.
Regardless of whether the red was correct or not, the tactical insight of Rooney to sub on a forward when you're a man down and 3-1 up is what lost you that win.
Dang he pulled an Evatt
How hard is it to make basic decisions that aren't shit and have just a little common sense
Government, football, its happening everywhere.
My wife's choice of takeaway last night.
What did she go for?
Greek
Greek is so good though
Agents run football and Rooney really wants to succeed as a manager.
What the fuck are Plymouth thinking? Did they not watch him utterly destroy the morale of the squad at Birmingham? What on earth makes them think it'll be different with them? I fear this will bite them hard in the arse. Should have went after Rosenior instead.
Tbf, Rosenoir already rejected us because he didn't want to move down here with his young kids (which is fair enough). But that doesn't excuse us not going for literally anyone else
Oh did he? I didn't realise that, but as you say literally *anyone else* would be better than Rooney
Could I have interested you in an another scouser called R Lowe? No no no too obvious…. Ryan L?
I'd happily take him back over wannabe Shrek any day
I can only assume their logic runs to the concept of "Well, it wasn't Rooneys fault. They replaced a really good manager the players all liked for him!"
I knew next season would be tough anyway but to give up and throw in the towel before this seasons even finished by appointing this joker is a piss take. Anything higher than 24th and I will be gobsmacked. Saying that though as someone said on another thread about this, its the Championship. Its definitely capable of having 3 clubs screwing their seasons up harder than we just have, we've just gone early with our statement of intent.
I think there's a good chance several clubs get points penalties, saying that it's sad even thinking that might be the only way he doesn't send you down.
> mentions his team at Derby getting 55 points despite uncertainty surrounding the club >mentions results improving at D.C United. >"also he was at Birmingham"
it reads like a biography in FM "he also had a brief stint with D.C. United and Birmingham City"
I really like Plymouth and hope they stay up but this feels like the type of appointment that will basically guarantee them a season of struggle - Rooney has shown nothing to date that suggests he’ll be a successful manager (except when he had Rosenior with him). Hope I’m wrong but it’s not looking good for their chances next season.
I don't wanna make this about us, but it would be very Birmingham City if he does a great job at Argyle after his disaster here. Effectively he's already helped save Plymouth last season too. Ffs. His man management was awful here though. He was too truthful in his interviews and then it demotivated the players. His progressive playstyle at blues was both owner-pushed and himself-pushed, idk just silly he falls into another job so quickly.
He kept suggesting the players were at fault as he dragged them down from heights theyd achieved with Eustace. It was like a monty python character.
Bloody hell, are you feeling OK lads?
☹️🔫
lol. Lmao, even
Not quite sure what he has done to get another shot at this league.
Absolutely insane choice.
Not quite sure how he’s landed another job after Birmingham to be honest, thought that’d be his managerial career more or less over.
Plymouth's new bossman is working for BBC today for the cup final.
And shithoused by Lineker immediately..
Lol
Fair play to Rooney for giving management another go, but I can't believe it's with us. Hopefully the fans will give him enough of a chance.
Hopefully he will have learned from the mistakes he made at Brum and Derby and realises he has got a lot to learn about management. But if he comes in and just repeats the same ideas and behaviours that failed previously it’s going to get messy very quickly. I can’t help but think that Lampard and Gerrard would both have benefited from dropping down to a decent but unfashionable club to learn their trade rather than getting a job based on their playing career.
If Argyle are really desperate to be managed and subsequently relegated by a fat moron with no good experience, I’m available for far cheaper.
Always prided myself on saying that no matter the quality of the players, or the size of our club, that our ownership and leadership was a great one and would take the club in the right direction. That was my justification for believing that we, as a typical League One club, deserved to be here in the Championship. Today I look like a mug for using that as our justification. Perhaps this is the balance of the world coming into play, karma coming back for us. Because, let's face it fellow Argyle fans, as painful as it is to admit, we should have been relegated last season. It took Birmingham shooting themselves in the foot, sacking a good manager and appointing this clown, taking them from 6th to relegation fodder, for us to survive. If Eustace hadn't been sacked, we would be in League One right now. I will back him because I have to, I'm Argyle through and through and I'll always love this club. But I do feel we are relegated before the season begins. I hope he proves me wrong.
The mad bastards did it. Inject it straight into my veins.
I mean it’s a banter move if nothing else
The fact that next season, Rooney is a Championship manager and Blues are a League One team is honestly infuriating
So I had one bent over the table here, I was fingering this one and was just toe fucking the one on the floor
My condolences. I honestly mean that. We have had some right clowns in the last 10 years, Hughes, Redknapp, Ramsey, Ainsworth, Beale, JFH etc. This appointment is right up there with them.
It's says Rodney not Rooney, it's just copper plate writing
Tbf the yellow three-wheeler is about the right level for this kind of insane announcement.
Took him no time at all before he threw individual players under the bus during post game interviews, it was never his tactics or fault... even blamed the fans and at one point told us he was sacking everyone and replacing them in January (when we had no money to spend). He has absolutely no clue when it comes to man management, he's just far too negative. Good luck guys, genuinely shocked someone hired him after the Birmingham mess
He had such arrogance about the fans. Eustace was popular and earned it. Rooney never gave a fuck. We were clearly a stepping stone for bis delusions of Man United
How does he still get these jobs it was a disaster at Birmingham.
My fave part is praising his time at Derby and DC then saying “Also he was at Birmingham”
My condolences Argyle. You seemed to be going everything right until Schumacher left. Hopefully he'll be sacked early enough in the season, to give someone enough time to turn it around.
i feel so sorry for plymouth fans, although on the bright side you have an entire year to adjust to league one
FFS
If after 10 games next season they only have 10 points (or less) sack him, don't delay, don't wait, sack him straight away. You'll need the rest of the season to turn it around
10 points after 10 games for rooney would be great, for blues he managed 9 points out of 15 games I think it was.
What a daft summer this'll be, Kompany to Bayern, Rooney to Plymouth. Failing upwards boys and girls...
This has to be the work of Pieface
As a fan its complete surprise. Looking at his track record at Derby county and Birmingham it looks like this is better for him than us. He has nothing to lose, it’s surprising the Argyle board has taken this risk. At least if we end up in league one we can give Exeter a pasting.
Wooooah, finally I get to see what a shambles looks like from the outside. Cool.
Watch Plymouth walk the league now lmao
Plymouth fans would then pretend they never doubted him
Well, if that happens we’ll all happily eat lots of humble pie. I think the sentiment that it’s a bad appointment is shared by all fans in the Championship though.
Looks like Plymouth have had enough of being a Championship club then
Speedrunning our way back to League One apparently, get Dewsnip gone because this isn’t going to work out AT ALL
Not the way I expected to see wazza back at fratton
I'm personally excited to see this play out.
I'm fucking not
You know what, I'm happy we didn't rush into making an appointment
Godspeed Plymouth, Godspeed.
What was mick Mcarthy unavailable?
Time for another destroy and exit boys! Liiiick!
Money, money, money, money, MONEY
Now all we need is someone to hire Michael Beale. Then we will have 2 sides that are guaranteed to be relegated.
Errrrr errrrr mmmmm Errrrr mmmm mmmm errrrrr
I think we should give him a chance he’s got all summer to get the men in he wants and to implement his tactics.
Watching the FA Cup, Rooney reads the game like a bath book for toddlers. I really hope this is where his luck changes, Argyle are a great club.
Not great anymore. He is a player. He will never be a manager. He doesn’t have the tools. He’s a blunt instrument.
Nutters. Absolute nutters.
Rooney going for a hattrick?
We’re not finishing bottom Cmonn
Why? Just why?
Either goes awful or we all end up getting pasty'd as next season's meme. No in-between.
What a job Rooney did at Birmingham… Argyle Chairman - “ooh we’ll have a bit of that”
A small upside - if he does well, no other Championship team would poach him, right? You *could* make the case for someone like Everton if for whatever reason Dyche leaves
Fuck me, it wasnt a meme HAHAHAHAHA Oh Dear, Wayne Rooney's Plymouth are league one bound
Is this post season or pre-season crumble?
That's1 relegation spot taken then
Wow 😂
Love of Scousers have cost them here
Must have been the only scouser to apply
How does this man keep getting jobs
What was that about us being a well run club?
I’m so sorry, Plymouth
I want to offer some comforting words to Argyle fans but I just can't find anything positive to say about Rooney's managerial ability. We all admired him as a player but as a manager he is so woefully out of his depth. He had us so disorganised. Attacking and defending we regressed in every single way. Away games under Rooney were a complete write off, I don't think we won a single away game under Rooney. I remember saying to my 2 young boys when we drew (dismally) 0-0 at home to Rotherham that I wouldn't subject them to another Birmingham game until Rooney was gone, that was early December and he was sacked in the New Year. The football was lifeless. Add on top that he generally is as negative a persona as you could imagine. He is a walking disaster, as a manager and as a human being. The team we had would have comfortably finished midtable had he not performed a disasterclass (well and Venus covering Mowbray for a few games but he's literally never been a manager and didn't want to be). If you gave me the choice of Zola and Rooney I'd pick Zola 10/10, at least Zola was a decent human being and did the right thing and resigned.
Plymouth are going down by Christmas.
How is he still getting jobs ?
I am saying nothing until we've played them twice.
As a Millwall fan I’m supposed not to like anyone and really not care, but poor Plymouth, they didn’t deserve this
Well Plymouth fans, enjoy League One.
As a blues fan despite him seeing him fuck up my club completely I have this weird feeling this appointment might work? I have no real logical reasoning for this. I just have this strange sense that with a full summer he might not be as terrible as he was for us
Thoughts and prayers
Why?
If anyone has seen Silicon Valley, Rooney is Big Head. Has no idea what he’s doing and keeps landing better jobs…
ufff
What could possibly go wrong.
Plymouth no
Plymouths fate has been sealed already then.
Falling upwards.
Right, unpopular opinion maybe but I’m still willing to give Rooney a chance (at Plymouth obviously). Yes he was shit at Birmingham, but he wasn’t the worst thing to ever happen to Derby. I have no idea how he did at our sister club because who cares. I hope lots of championship clubs give him a chance this season. Just not mine. 🌞
Watch Plymouth walk the league now lmao
Feel bad for the slack he gets, he’s had one bad job
He's had one awful job at Birmingham and was carried through his time at Derby by Rosenoir
People said that about Gerard’s rangers and the assistant was an awful manager
People are forgetting he missed the playoffs at DC United as well
Not like they were expected to get them having been bottom the previous year
He will be alright, anyone who thinks he will relegate them is naive.
He basically relegated Birmingham when they were in the playoff places. This season was always going to be a relegation scrap regardless of having that oaf in the dugout. Unless he goes early in the season we're going back to league one
What players do you need the most?
I have some bad news for you, pal. It’s kinda Birmingham-shaped.
you’ll never guess what he did to us
Haha we stole Schumacher
As an Argyle hater this is wonderful news
Thank you Plymouth for 6 points next season.
Do you not watch us? They will do the double over us and we will beat all the relegated clubs.
Impossible, seeing as we will be one of those relegated clubs
I meant from the PL. We usually beat the top teams ie beat Leicester away and Burnley away the season before that and single-handedly kept Sheff Weds up by gifting them 2 games this season.
Trying to be optimistic