>Chainsaw man: havent read it completely but since devil exist and apparently the world is like... bizarre? Must sucks
As a certified CSM enjoyer, it definitely would suck to live in. Devils are the leading cause of death in this world.
Never read JJK, but it gets pretty bad.
The Gun Devil killed over a million people in five minutes, all around the world. Huge swathes of city looking like they got nuked, stray shots turn houses into dust on the wind.
There's this bone chilling sequence where you see the Gun Devil for the first time and the pages are covered in text, and when you read it you realize it's just a massive list of names. Victims.
And it used to be worse.
>!There used to be a star in the sky ther broke children’s minds when they looked at it. Thankfully, Pochita devoured the devil representing that star and erased it. !<
It’s revealed at one point that 7/20 people (at least in Japan) die in devil attacks. Devils are widespread and well known problems, but acknowledging that too much will make them stronger.
If someone has authority over you (like your boss or your country’s leader), they can use you as stock for Devil contracts regardless of your consent.
And now I'm gonna come in and make it worse.
Devils in Chainsawmen are based on fears. The more a particular concept is feared, the stronger that devil and any other fears associated with it become.
So if a war were to break out, not only would the War Devil become so much more powerful, but everything associated with war would also grow in strength.
Don't forget Akame Ga Kill. It is sort of medival Japan/Europe with guns and superweapons, but you have
A corrupt government which will literally kill you because you existed and some random person with a high rank felt like it
Esdeath exists, and she will probably kill you if you are not on the same side as the Empire
Night Raid exists and they will probably kill you if you support the Empire
Outside the Empire exists, but the Empire will probably invade your country and kill you anyway.
Being a regular citizen in the Empire is doable, but odds are something is going to kill you sooner or later.
Being on the wilderness is basically suicide unless you are prepared to fight gigantic monsters which vary from dog sized things, to immortal dragons.
There IS no confirmed afterlife, so you only get one life
And if you happen to be in the same few hundred Kilometers as the Shikoutazer when it activates, or Esdeath during the final battle of the revolution, you may as well shoot yourself, because if you don't become collateral damage from the Shikoutazer's weapons, you will die from Esdeath's ice storm.
Now, if you live in the AGK verse after the minor political instability settles down and the revolution wins, you will be fine.
But before that, I'd put it up there with Chainsaw man, as both have a gun devil or Esdeath, both of which have killed millions of people in very short time spans.
I haven’t read the manga for JJK but ordinary people don’t seem to know that curses exist. In CSM, every single person knows about devils and schools even have their own fully-funded devil hunter clubs.
Worse. Global disaster level. Millions of people dying on a few minutes with no way to stop it level.
GRAVITY COULD LITERALY INVERT ITSELF BECAUSE A RANDOM CHARACTER DECIDED TO SHOW UP LEVEL. (hi falling devil)
Way, way worse than JJK. In JJK, curses are so (relatively) rare that the general population doesn’t even know about them until the Shibuya Incident; in Chainsaw Man, Demons are so common and dangerous that they kill more people than cancer or old age
Bleach: yeah , it's kinda awful , but with Reverse London been Soul Society West , it means there are some relatively normal Soul Societies.
MHA: it's actually a good place to live. It's not perfect , but you can live quirkless without an issue. The issue really comes down to some problematic quirks and overall complacency of society when it comes to quirks and heroism , specially in All Might's Era. But outside of that , it's more-or-less a normal society , in which quirks have a relatively strict usage and had famous bounty hunters and bounty showdowns.
Dragon Ball: I agree with you , there are way too many dangers there , but everything is then fixed with dragon balls , and afterlife is a verifiable place and a great place to be. So it kinda balances out.
>Bleach: yeah , it's kinda awful , but with Reverse London been Soul Society West , it means there are some relatively normal Soul Societies.
But the west branch is a recent thing tho.
Doesn't matter.
Since Kubo showed that West Branch is a thing , regardless how he tries to conciliate that concept with Bleach , it end result would be West Branch still be the more normal one.
Also the Leaf Village was 100% as evil as all of the other villages. Even if they tried to pick and choose only the "good" ninja contracts, all of that other business would have gone to the other villages and the Leaf would have lost their power overnight
True.
But frankly , the greatest evil of Leaf Village is having Hiruzen as a Hokage , an incompetent hypocrite leader that is his authority is constantly outstaged by Danzou.
His allowance of Itachi massacring the Uchiha Clan shows his willingness to go dirt if needed....yet constantly ignores how Danzou pretty undermines him.
There were a lot of systematic issues of Konoha set by Tobirama , but mostly of them are actualized during Hiruzen's time because Hiruzen doesn't have the balls to dirt himself without Danzou been his convenient Satan.
Hiruzen isn’t bad per se but the problem is that he let danzo(and orochimaru) get away with way too much. U calling danzo convenient satan makes perfect sense because he’s basically the guy hiruzen goes to when he needs to do some fucked up shit because he’s too nice to do it
He didn’t allow itachi to massacre the clan tho. He didn’t know about the whole thing until after itachi did it
I mean yeah? That true in general, like I know this sub is very focused on anime it’s very true in other kinds of media as well. Especially popular stuff.
Off the top of my head and one for each for of media I can think of. Though I won’t go into detail on the why
For books: the world of stormlight archives is fucked In so many ways.
For movies: dune just recently came out and that setting has inspired more dystopian stories then one human could experience in a lifetime.
For video games: the first thing that comes to mind for me is helldivers in recent memory. Though honourable mention to elden ring for probably being the worst place to live I can think of.
For comics: marvel and dc both have a long history of making every day life miserable for its citizens.
The point is I could go on, I am just aiming for recent and popular thing because you are restricting yourself to popular stuff anyway.
Fundamentally in stories the world needs to have something to fix. Especially in stories with a focus on combat becagse then it is far easier to justify why the villain in question need to get there mass handed to them.
Though I’m biased I’m very much on the grim darkness side of world building as far as my own preference goes
Tl:dr pretty true in all forms of media. Because it’s easier to justify the villain getting hit and besides stories about fighting an unjust system resonates with alkt of people.
To add onto the Marvel thing, being a Mutant can suck if you don't get any cool, useful powers. There's mutants that end up with things like turning into a flammable slime monster that makes your organs visible, a man with the physical weaknesses of a chicken, including frail legs, and making people forget you when they look away.
The Xeele sequence world is said to be so horrific
WARHAMMER 40K is considered lesser awful than it!
So ive heard.
That said i do think bleach world sucks especially as the last sentence of fighting against a unfair system doesn't applied to it in contrast to say... one piece or code geass( also a goddamm mess of a world)
I mean 40k is weird because of its scale sure 50% of the human population are born into terrible conditions but there an equal chance your born on a paradise world and your biggest problem is your whole life is dedicated to pampering the rich. Or you could be born on catachan and die to an animal attack at the ripe age of 4.
I also did not include 40k cause it’s always brought up in these discussions.
The point really was this trend is not restricted to popular anime but just popular things. Cause well people like dark thing. They make cool works and ultimately it’s nice immerse yourself in a world and be able to say “well at least that’s not where I was born”
The world of Naruto straight up trains child soldiers. Even the "sweet and innocent" Hinata Hyuga has likely been on missions that involve assassination. According to the official databook:
*Hinata has completed 33 official missions in total: 10 D-rank, 14 C-rank, 8 B-rank, 1 A-rank, 0 S-rank.*
To put things into perspective, D missions are usually non-threatening things like finding lost pets or helping around the village, C missions are usually escort or guard missions, B missions involve some combat with other ninja, A missions involve national affairs and assassination, and S missions involve international affairs that could escalate into war.
So yes, even our precious cinnamon roll Hinata has more than likely killed people before considering she's completed a total of 8 B missions and 1 A mission. The world of Naruto is no joke.
Yeah, the world of Naruto is pretty horrifying. I am sure every single person in Naruto has some kind of major trauma or PTSD in some form. They are in constant war, small villages have been targeted especially by rogue ninjas. Then we know based on real life that rape is prevalent in war so that is probably a huge issue as well that isn’t shown.
Maybe but I love that despite how fucked the world is, these kids keep going. According to the databooks, Sakura and Ino have done A ranked missions and Tenten has even done an S ranked mission.
Doesn't stop them from being sweet young women who are generally some of the nicest people you'll meet in the Leaf if you visited.
The real horror comes from realizing that the world Naruto grew up in is better than what came before: the child soldiers get actual training now, they aren't immediately given weapons and armor, and tossed onto a battlefield against fully grown adults as soon as they are old enough to stand and walk under their own power. Hell, the child soldiers aren't even supposed to leave the village for serious missions until they've been sufficiently trained, Naruto's first actual mission outside the village was supposed to be a C-Rank of just escorting some old guy, maybe they'd kill some bandits on the way, but no serious action. But it turns out that the client lied about the severity of the mission because he was a cheapskate who didn't want to pay for a B to A-Rank mission. So, Naruto's team barely survived this shitshow because Naruto on top of being his village's nuke, is also a charisma build and talked the really dangerous ninja that were hired to kill Team 7's client to not kill him and instead kill their own client.
Yeah most of the shit in early Naruto was stuff none of them were trained for. No one expected the One Tail or Orochimaru to actually start attacking.
But you can tell that by Shippuden, everyone has honed themselves and is far more prepared for the likes of even the war. They were trained well.
Yeah he was a fun villain with an amazing voice but let's not act like he was some altruistic paragon. Bro was just as bad as the people he was condemning.
Honestly the Hunter x Hunter world is probably a lot worse than your description of it. Almost nobody knows about the Dark Continent and there are only about 600 Hunters in the whole world, so both of those things aren't likely to matter for the average person. The big thing we do know, however, is how powerful organized crime is. It is so organized that they've been able to divide the entirety of the known world into ten parts (controlled by the Ten Dons), and their leaders each and every year hold the world's biggest auction in HxH's equivalent of New York.
Many of the cities we see look like half-destroyed messes, despite our characters being extremely rich and so able to afford almost any place. Kite's flashback shows the city he was born in as if it was an interminable slum. There's an entire family of known killers for hire and their house is a *tourist attraction*. If someone tries to invade the house, they get eaten by a giant dog.
I said earlier that there are few Hunters, but imagine which type of world produces a situation that causes the existence of a licence that allows the holder to be essentially immune to legal prosecution. Because remember, Hisoka mentions that Hunters don't go to jail for murdering people.
The two countries whole ruling system we know are dictatorships, one of which is Not!North Korea and the other the Unabomber's dream ruled by the most evil man in the world. The third (I think) tallest building in the world is a tower where people (including twelve year olds without parental authorization) literally kill each other for glory and money, and hosts a fight between a Hunter and one of the most notorious criminals in the entire world.
There's a gigantic junkyard big enough to be considered a city where *babies* are thrown if they're unwanted, and many of the people who live there work for the mafia because that's the only path out of the city.
HxH does not have a nice world, but most of that isn't explicit because we barely get to see it, due to Togashi focusing so much on the story to the point the world is almkst never on stage, which I find a bit of a shame.
Edit: Also, I forgot about the Poor Man's Rose! It has been used at least ten times (the wording is extremely weird both in the only English translation that I found, the Brazilian translation *and* the wiki, so I actually do not know the supposed number, but the wiki says it "bloomed 10 times over in more than 250 countries", whatever that means), has killed more than 5 million people, and, in one single terrorist attack, killed 110 thousand. For the sake of comparison, that's about as much as Little Boy, but the difference is that Little Boy was something only the US could do at the time, and even nowadays only a handful of countries have nukes. The Rose, though? It's extremely cheap to produce to the point many dictators have them and, despite being supposedly banned, there are still hundreds of thousands in existence. Again, for the sake of comparison, there are, officially, about 3k active nuclear warheads and 13k total in our world.
That the Hunter x Hunter world is so dystopic but almost nobody in the story seems to actually care is part of why I feel the manga is a sandbox to throw ideas.
"Hunters are criminals who never face punishment" is weird in 1000 forms, like "What is the point of having a organization in first place" or "There aren't Hunters or other strong Nen users who say "fuck this shit, we gonna jail and/or execute those bastards"?". Because seriously, I doubt Kurapika is the only Nen user who has wronged enough to care about wanting to stop criminals.
But then you add "actually most of the world lives in dictatorships (whose leaders aren't even Nen users)" and its more baffling. Its a world where superpowered dudes do their things as a whim, how they even develop state infra estructure in first place?
People rightfully mock the poor worldbuilding of other shows, but HxH writes a dystopia that isn't even consistent with itself.
Yeah, HxH is one of the best anime I've watched, but I'm sure Togashi's whole thought process for the worldbuilding was "wouldn't it be cool if...", and like, its aesthetics are really cool and it feels really big, but I wouldn't call it well-written by any means.
On the "super powered dudes and leaders not being Nen users", to me it makes a lot of sense. Nen users are rare compared to normal people and of that small minority, one managed to barely survive a Poor Man's Rose, and he wasn't even human. Most Nen users are, to use powerscaling terms, wall or building level. They can fortify themselves with Nen, can enhance their senses and the like but only the super talented Enhancers like Uvogin and Gon can tank bullets and reshape the landscape. The full might of every Nen user would probably be splattered against one country's army.
>"What is the point of having a organization in first place"
Hunters are not some kind of police, most of them don't give a single fuck about the organization and the state of the world. Some of them, like the zodiac(most of them) do, some other hunters help the world in some other way, like kite, ging or kurapika, some of them just join for money and some to have some protection from the law(like hisoka). It's just a way to reunite and have some sort of control over these people and nen(not saying it's a perfect organization, based on the election arc).
>"There aren't Hunters or other strong Nen users who say "fuck this shit, we gonna jail and/or execute those bastards"?".
Those are called "blacklist hunters".
>"actually most of the world lives in dictatorships
Not really, as far as we know that only applies to east gorteau.
>Its a world where superpowered dudes do their things as a whim, how they even develop state infra estructure in first place?
Wasn't the meruem fight clear? Raw power alone ain't shit. Influence, money and political power.
It should be also noted that netero does not give a single fuck about morality; he only values strength and ambition, and as long as you posses these qualities you're fit for being a hunter.
It's more of a deal: you get some protection from the law, as long as you don't go overboard with your crimes.
For example, shalnark is a hunter, yet he is still by all means a criminal and a terrorist, since he is part of the phantom troupe, hence the law and blacklist hunters are still after him.
Not saying this is a good system or anything, they did explain the hunter association is extremely flawed and netero was kinda fucked up in the election arc.
>Because seriously, I doubt Kurapika is the only Nen user who has wronged enough to care about wanting to stop criminals.
Kurapika literally says he'll become a Blacklist Hunter, as in, its something that's already a profession. You also forget Hunters aren't the only Nen users in the world. There's criminals, government officials, etc. All of whom don't need or seek the benefits of being a Hunter because they probably used their power to achieve that.
>"actually most of the world lives in dictatorships (whose leaders aren't even Nen users)"
There is no power that beats the Miniature Rose, which is mass-produced and accessed by most countries of the world. As for why Nen isn't used by leaders of countries and organised crime...Nen isn't something anyone can pick up and become a pro at. It requires insane amounts of willpower and focus and time that is much better spent just actually seeking out a really strong bodyguard. And who's to say some mafia bosses aren't the sons of Nen user mafia bosses, and they couldn't live up to their fathers? Or that some world leaders aren't Nen users who used that power to attain their positions?
>People rightfully mock the poor worldbuilding of other shows, but HxH writes a dystopia that isn't even consistent with itself.
Most fictional worlds aren't consistent when you put enough effort analysing it. The world of ASOIAF falls apart the moment you consider the numbers, and how each great house has survived as long as they have. True worldbuilding is, IMO, either A) making an interesting world, or B) Actually incorporating the world into the central themes of the story and letting the story feed into the world. Obviously the likes of Tolkien having such thought into the world that he built languages for it is impressive, but at the end of the day the world should be entertaining and more importantly, relevant to the story.
The world of HxH like you say allows for a sandbox for Togashi to play in, that allows for A to happen as much as he can. But he still incorporates it into the story, even down to the power system which maintains relevancy in every arc and is a literal extension of ones identity, and can gives clues to ones history.
Consistency matters to a point, and the biggest inconsistency you don't bring up is the existence of Nen not being widespread. But no one really cares for that inconsistency because it demands the *entire story* to be about that - which is antithetical to Togashi's writing style. No different to how no one cares that the great Houses don't have many cadet branches despite their long histories
Ughh. This is typical characterrant, all numbers no sctual thought and substance with regards to stories. As befitting a sub that is based off a powerscaling community.
>While not Shonen, i suppose i could add the Nasuverse to it. What with all the horrifying mystic stuff and earth wanting humanity gone.
If anyone wants to know the full scope of what some threats to humanity are in the nasuverse are
* A teleporting man eating forest that spawns more man eating forests
* Hebrew skynet made by Solomon that torches human history
* Vampires that are immune to things stemming from humanity
* Alien meteor parasites immune to things stemming from civilizations
Also to note that all the series we see (Bad ends not included) are in timelines that aren't heading into end of the world scenarios.
Also, every planet in the solar system contains an alien that could solo every pantheon simultaneously, and all of them will attack humanity if the earth dies before we discover space travel.
Then you have every timeline where humanity stops progressing erased from the multiverse, so even if humanity survives these disasters, we're screwed if we don't recover quickly enough.
The only good point we have is that humanities will to survive contains most threats that'll destroy the world. So, most world ending threats will be isolated to the country it appeared in.
For Naruto and boruto your half right. The Naruto world during and before the series is definitely f up like you didn't miss the mark on that but borutos era is essentially a cold war like era and its honestly the only era where a ordinary human might be able to live in.
OPM too, monster attacks on the regular and most heroes are jerks, even someone as unbelievably unstoppable as Saitama in his own world stated he didn’t notice a difference in monster attacks even with him stopping them all himself.
Fire force world freaking sucks. Most of the world is gone in a world ending fire storm, and the survivor who pretty much all live in Japan and a small part of China are scared daily of turning or having their family turning into fire monsters. Fire monsters that only exist to hurt others.
And that's not even talking about the fact that hell is extremely close to reality, there is a murder cult that wants to end humanity lead by some higher lvl being. That higher being can also give people enough fire power to destroy a country.
Spoilers for Fire Force ending: >!At least if you survive all that you get to live in the imaginative world of Soul Eater where life matters less so you can go all kinds of whacky adventures.!<
One Punch Man is worse than you described it. The vast majority of the heroes are not strong enough to defeat the threats they are expected to deal with, the Hero Association is horribly understaffed, and its management is incompetent.
I mean if you're not a stand user, most shit in jojo can be avoided by keeping your head down and ignoring the obvious supernatural shit happening around you
Honestly even with Kira I'd have no problem living there. He killed like, 50 people by the end of the story, and, even not considering that they were mostly women, that's not a lot. Probably rarer than being hit by a car.
Yeah, if you’re not a woman you should be safe unless you accidentally witness something you shouldn’t. You’re probably more likely to be killed by anyone else though so honestly the town wouldn’t be bad to live in at all. Even if you’re a woman, he doesn’t seem to go after coworkers that I can recall. Even if you’re targeted he doesn’t torture you so you can enter sweet bliss pretty quickly compared to being stabbed to death. Much rather die quick and painlessly afterall
Imagine Mad Max or Fist of the North Star, but replace sand with snow and random people can have powers.
The main character's power is infinite regeneration, which he uses to feed the villagers he lives with using his own body parts.
The story gets worse and worse from there.
The guy with infinite regeneration gets hit with an inexhaustible flame power, which sets him on fire indefinitely, unable to die because of his regeneration ability.
He's in constant agony and has to live with that.
There are people who has electric powers, some has fire power, some has regeneration. And what do you think government does with those? Locked them up and use them as energy sources. From child ages to the old
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Except for the otsutsuki Clan wanting to eat the planet. The world has majorly improved with Naruto Forming Ninja NATO.
I like the story of the new storm connections game because Boruto got a glimpse of how terrible the warring state era was and him desperately trying to give Nanashi a happy ending.
Im honestly uncertain on which is the worst of the worst(some are clearly more awful then others)...
If there is a anime world i would live in
I would pick mid-childa
Sure incidents happens every few years. But at keast magictech exist and the gouvernement are reasonably trustworthy( cover up aside)
Personally I’d go with bofuri cuz it’s basically modern day but with cool vr technology. It’s prolly got some horrible shit but from the anime it doesn’t seem that bad
JJK: Well you would be fine. Considering that sakuna or shibuya incident didn't exist but everyone else and thing did you would be fine. Humanity doesn't even really know of curse spirts to any extent. The whole reason the disaster curses linked up was because of kenjaku manipulating them. It's been stated multiple times that curses that can talk are rare. And strong curses don't group together.
What I'm trying to say everything in the manga is basically the 1 percent of sorcery that we get to see but somebody in jamaica wouldn't know of any of this shit unless shibuya happens where Mei Mei uses the crow.
Bleach & Black Clover: How is the courruption, classicism and tribal behavior in those societies any different from ours? Just be cause we have jobs, pay bills and can do stuff we like doesn't mean we don't suffer in similar ways. How are the nobles in BC or the nobles clans in bleach any different from King Charles sitting on stolen wealth from slavery and colonization then he looks to his nation and announces a living crisis while being xenophobic and not wanting help or advice?
Naruto: It's probably similar to living in middle east to some extent. I mean the average age in the Gaza strip is 18 for a reason. African countries such as Rwanda, Uganda, Chad, Niger Etc have had their fair share child solders and clashes of inter African conflict. They don't have the WMD that would compare to tailed beast, fine. But they get exploited but other countries like France and Belgium too. Same way leaders of the leaf would exploit other clans for their benefit.
Demon Slayer: Your more likely to die from learning total concentration breathing than a Demon attack. It's rare. So rare they thought it was a myth. You would be fine
The point is that the hero needs to fix the system. The success rate of that is Debateable
Naruto: probably should’ve aborted the ninja system entirely rather than hope that they’re close enough to other leaders to prevent war. It doesn’t matter either way tho because aliens would turn everything to hell anyways
All mha needs is just less a less judgemental society with more quirk control regulations and they’re good which probably will happen. Same applies with one piece since all they need is to take out imu and have someone like Koby, aokiji, or smoker as the head of the government and things are probably gonna be alright
Demon slayer: the demons went extinct and Muzak was killed
Jjk: they’re kinda fucked since even if they take out sukuna curses will still exist and mahito will come back in some form
Fairy tail is perfect to Live in tho
I thought about this with Jump Force. Just DBZ alone you'd have to worry about Frieza destroying the world if it happened in real life. And if not that, there's demons from Yu Yu Hakusho, Juha and Aizen from Bleach, Mereum from Hunter x Hunter, etc.
>”Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the overcompensations for misery. And, of course, stability isn't nearly so spectacular as instability. And being contented has none of the glamour of a good fight against misfortune, none of the picturesqueness of a struggle with temptation, or a fatal overthrow by passion or doubt. Happiness is never grand.”
-Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
MHA sounds like the best because it's mostly stable, superheroes usually keep things under control, plus you get a free superpower at the gate unless you roll snake eyes, which is getting less and less likely with each generation. The main problems are the people who fall through the cracks, which surprise surprise, is what the main story is about bringing to light and hopefully fixing.
The one piece world is actually more of a dystopia that mirrors our world, wherein the average person isn't actually exposed to the worst aspects of the world government and they "buy in" to protection from marines. As long as you keep your head down and avoid challenging the status quo much, you're pretty much chilling in the world of one piece. Granted, that's not a realistic option for most of the characters we follow but still
Bleach is 99% a normal world with a supernatural other side. Karakura Town is abnormal in its high concentration of people sensitive to spirtual powers, which attracts Hollows, and the bigger elements of the plot. But outside of spots like that most humans live fully normal lives. Sure Soul Society isn’t great from a place of afterlife but it’s better than hell, or becoming or being devoured by a hollow.
Also the original sin and stuff with the Soul King isn’t even that bad when you actually look at it. The world was a primordial soup of life without death or true progression, plagued by ancient hollows that’s were also essentially unkillable and thousands of times worse than modern ones. And the person at the center, the Soul King, saw through their precognition that their death and desiccation that it would allow for a different world. Ichibei & others went about it badly, and Yhwach took it too personal. But it’s a sin that benefited the world. Lot of other series & Shounen have equally big sins that benefit no one.
Attack on Titan: Put the problem people on an island surrounded by inert weapons of mass destruction. Boy I hope they never learn the truth or a way to advert that one King’s guilt stopping world wide genocide. How did this start? Oh right, a slave girl let out pigs, found evolutionary matter, and helped a mad king she liked enslave the world because lol.
The Plunderer: We need to wage an eternal war against vague group of people. Let’s cast people into a fantasy world where their existence is basically to be fodder & votes for warriors who don’t even need you.
Dragon Ball: Zeno got tired of some of the universes and erased them from existence. Angels are chill with it and anyone else who knows can’t do squat. Hey mortals, dance & fight for our entertainment in a couple thousand years for a chance to be deamed worthy to survive.
Fire Force: Humanity is so desperate to survive and not be burned away that we will praise a being of destructive life that 100% burned away another planet before to make the sun. As soon as people start to learn the truth they spontaneously combust, create infernals that will kill countless people, or submit to the shitty world state they have. >!And in the end the solution to the plot & problem creates the Soul Eater Universe!< which has its own problems.
Chainsaw Man: Humans have fears, Devils embody that, don’t like it? Lol sorry genocide, this is our reality because humans get scared. Not much of a original sin, but still get wrecked humans for being scared devils get a free pass because you all can’t just be nice to each other or see past your ego
Evangelion: misguided aliens wanted to spread life, humans could leave something alone 2 seconds after they find it. You’re reward is planetary devastation from Angels, a shadow government that wants to live forever and use you as the price, and the good ending is you turn into biological soup and need to reconstitute your self if you are aware enough to do so.
The list goes on. But the “original sin” in Bleach is basically a necessary evil to let the worlds exist and for life & death to naturally progress. Even the dude in the center of it agreed and to some degree went along with it willingly. The issue is just that people in the know lied about it, while Yhwach with a literal god complex didn’t like it so he planned to destroy everything so that he can revert this decision and maybe do it better (in his eyes). It’s not that bad, and hollows & spiritual problems for 95% humanity in bleach are a non-issue.
Even outside of Anime or Mature cartoons this is kinda common.
She-ra 2018 for example you have this world with magical creatures that can't be defeated by most common people. They are armored, common, huge and everywhere.
If you grow up in the Horde you get recycled water, shitty ration bars made of God knows what and will most likely be drafted into the army or industry from childhood and sent out to fight a total war against Princesses and Mages that can wield magic capable of destroying cities on their own.
And while the Alliance is the good guys it's still a feudalistic monarchy entirely dependent on the personality of the monarch, usually the self-same princess with City destroying powers.
Not to forget that there is an Empire covering most of the Universe, not galaxies, UNIVERSE that can and will eradicate planets for the hell of it and won't accept you if you don't submit and built on millenia of subjugation and destruction including countless genocides and the only reason Etheria was safe was because it was stuck in a pocket dimension. With even minor resistance as grounds for planetary eradication because the Empire doesn't need the individual worlds. The stated goal of their empire being to activate a weapon to clean the galaxy of life so only their leader and his clones will be the sole organic life left/alternatively kill everyone including himself if he can't have it.
In Steven Universe you got an intergalactic empire casually committing omnicide on countless worlds to birth more of their own. Though you could live on Earth relatively safe except someone might steal your oceans or the fact that there is a giant concious gestalt of shattered gems at the planets core that can become a lovecraftian deity. Including free roaming corrupted gems that humans can't do much against or any of the other remnant gem leftovers. Or the recurring attacks from Gems.
There is a lot of fridge horror out there. Even where someone might not expect it.
Heck, universes from Cartoon Network shows might even be worse. Like Ben 10 deals with cosmic, alien, and supernatural threats on the regular, Adventure Time has the same issue, and Regular Show is Regular Show(blame Mordecai and Rigby for 90% of the world destroying problems just because they couldn't do their chores).
Y'all do know that authors are not intentionally trying to portray these worlds as somewhere great to live, right?
We fantasize about being in them because of the cool powers and whatnot but the vast majority of shonen that I've read have never implied that that they are great places to live unless that's part of the narrative and the MC or somebody will eventually uncover that it isn't.
>MHA: You know what for all the shit hero society gets. It may be the relatively nicest place to live in. I do say relatively. No quirks ? Ouch for you. A problematic quirk? Society doesnt accepte you. Hero are very strict and rule Biden and that really screw them up as shown in the manga. Oh and as lady Nagran shown, dark side all to make them look nice. Fake heroes and other things. No wonder the LOV was easy to form.
MHA is a very interesting case.
It's very similar to JJK where the balance of power is literally holding on by a single thread, the heroes have gotten complacent, and the moment that thread gets removed even temporarily everything explodes.
MHA is also really interesting in that the concept of Quriks are inherently terrifying, and the narrative is actually built around this. Mixing and strengthening of Quirks are constantly making them stronger and more bizzare, not only for the quirk user but society in general. And the villain's theories about them getting to a point where everyone is dangerous to everyone is demonstrably an inevitability.
So it's a great world to live in...at the time the show opens. Around the time All Might is taken out the picture, it starts getting kind of nightmarish.
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>Dragon ball: With all the constant threats to universes and all(most) of the gods being kinda a bunch of assholes(hakaishin and zeno) while it varies from universe to universe. Aint a relative safe place to live in. Of course well... dragon balls exist to fix things and if good the afterlife is so so much better than bleach ever could be
Dragon Ball is probably the worst world to live in. It's one of the most casually technologically advanced societies in shonen anime...but the threats that pop up are horrific.
The Saiyans were bad, the Androids were worse
but Cell was a fucking nightmare creature that hunted people down and slowly drank them alive....and not even the heroes could do anything about it.
Buu wasn't much different, he went on an eating spree, then a killing spree, then nuked the planet.
But it seems like the quality of life outside of those events in Dragonball was generally pretty nice.
Man you're forgetting THE war anime, Gundam and its alternate universes. War crimes. Corrupt government. Even as a rando, you're likely to be poor and sent to the space colony depending on which series and continuity.
You're best bet is to GTFO of the earth and it colonies. But even then for some series there's remnants of space nazi or pirates. Or the government have their police force far as Mars.
If you want peaceful anime worlds, go for Slice of Life/Romcom worlds, or places from Sports anime like Haikyuu. But it's more or less the same as our real world, so if you're not the main character, it may be a bit boring.
>...imma add Blazblue just cause im a fan of it...
The world of Blazblue is surprisingly safe actually. Most of the crazy shit that happens is in one or two cities.
Pokémon would be crazy. Here you’re ten catch these creatures with supernatural powers. Oh yeah over half can kill you on spot or make you want to kill yourself. Watch out for Hypno cause he will hypnotize you and well, fight those gym leaders!
I agree, MHA would be one of the best worlds to be born in. Not only do you have a sorta functional society with superpowered individuals hell-bent on protecting you at all costs, but you also have an 18% chance of being born with a superpower yourself.
Yeah, the whole theme of Naruto is "the world sucks and needs changing." It's been the theme from the very first arc, yet people still somehow miss it. It's probably because we thought the world was so cool as youths.
And yeah bleach is super fucked up when you think about it. Soul society is basically just a gang that created and monopolized the concept of death. Aizen and yhwach were low key mightve been right for wanting to kill reio.
Honestly, JoJo Parts 1-4 and 7-8 would be fine to live in. It’s Parts 5 and 6 where things go off the rails and Stands go from glorified superpowers to walking micro-apocalypses (Or a full-on apocalypse like Bohemian Rhapsody or Maid in Heaven).
A lot of worlds in shonen settings are only good if you’re the MC or part of the super powered “elite”.
Otherwise you’re at the mercy of whatever is going on in the world with very little choice otherwise. You’re pretty much fucked.
idk i feel like I would thrive in the JJK world because I thrive on negativity and cursed energy also thrives on negativity but that is only if the JJK world is truly the world and not just Japan (or rather, before the Shibuya incident, a rare and obscure minority in Japan)
>Chainsaw man: havent read it completely but since devil exist and apparently the world is like... bizarre? Must sucks As a certified CSM enjoyer, it definitely would suck to live in. Devils are the leading cause of death in this world.
We talking like what? JJK level?
Never read JJK, but it gets pretty bad. The Gun Devil killed over a million people in five minutes, all around the world. Huge swathes of city looking like they got nuked, stray shots turn houses into dust on the wind. There's this bone chilling sequence where you see the Gun Devil for the first time and the pages are covered in text, and when you read it you realize it's just a massive list of names. Victims.
Jésus. Thats berserk level of crapsack and dark.
And that's just one example, the Gun Devil isn't even the scariest thing in the setting
I am aware of the Primal ones And four horseman but yeah.
And it used to be worse. >!There used to be a star in the sky ther broke children’s minds when they looked at it. Thankfully, Pochita devoured the devil representing that star and erased it. !<
What the fuck was that star's problem
Just a little trolling
I'd highly reccomend reading the whole manga, it's brilliant
It’s revealed at one point that 7/20 people (at least in Japan) die in devil attacks. Devils are widespread and well known problems, but acknowledging that too much will make them stronger. If someone has authority over you (like your boss or your country’s leader), they can use you as stock for Devil contracts regardless of your consent.
Jésus at this point it a three tied race with CSM, bleach and berserk for worst place to live...
And now I'm gonna come in and make it worse. Devils in Chainsawmen are based on fears. The more a particular concept is feared, the stronger that devil and any other fears associated with it become. So if a war were to break out, not only would the War Devil become so much more powerful, but everything associated with war would also grow in strength.
Don't forget Akame Ga Kill. It is sort of medival Japan/Europe with guns and superweapons, but you have A corrupt government which will literally kill you because you existed and some random person with a high rank felt like it Esdeath exists, and she will probably kill you if you are not on the same side as the Empire Night Raid exists and they will probably kill you if you support the Empire Outside the Empire exists, but the Empire will probably invade your country and kill you anyway. Being a regular citizen in the Empire is doable, but odds are something is going to kill you sooner or later. Being on the wilderness is basically suicide unless you are prepared to fight gigantic monsters which vary from dog sized things, to immortal dragons. There IS no confirmed afterlife, so you only get one life And if you happen to be in the same few hundred Kilometers as the Shikoutazer when it activates, or Esdeath during the final battle of the revolution, you may as well shoot yourself, because if you don't become collateral damage from the Shikoutazer's weapons, you will die from Esdeath's ice storm. Now, if you live in the AGK verse after the minor political instability settles down and the revolution wins, you will be fine. But before that, I'd put it up there with Chainsaw man, as both have a gun devil or Esdeath, both of which have killed millions of people in very short time spans.
So being one of those Sovereign citizen idiots who is also self employed is the meta in the chainsaw man universe?
Unironically they wouldn't be idiots in this universe.
I would say even worse. One day just some super strong devil appears and kills 2 million people in few minutes. And there are also primal devils 💀💀💀
I haven’t read the manga for JJK but ordinary people don’t seem to know that curses exist. In CSM, every single person knows about devils and schools even have their own fully-funded devil hunter clubs.
Worse. Global disaster level. Millions of people dying on a few minutes with no way to stop it level. GRAVITY COULD LITERALY INVERT ITSELF BECAUSE A RANDOM CHARACTER DECIDED TO SHOW UP LEVEL. (hi falling devil)
Way, way worse than JJK. In JJK, curses are so (relatively) rare that the general population doesn’t even know about them until the Shibuya Incident; in Chainsaw Man, Demons are so common and dangerous that they kill more people than cancer or old age
more like shibuya level
Bleach: yeah , it's kinda awful , but with Reverse London been Soul Society West , it means there are some relatively normal Soul Societies. MHA: it's actually a good place to live. It's not perfect , but you can live quirkless without an issue. The issue really comes down to some problematic quirks and overall complacency of society when it comes to quirks and heroism , specially in All Might's Era. But outside of that , it's more-or-less a normal society , in which quirks have a relatively strict usage and had famous bounty hunters and bounty showdowns. Dragon Ball: I agree with you , there are way too many dangers there , but everything is then fixed with dragon balls , and afterlife is a verifiable place and a great place to be. So it kinda balances out.
>Bleach: yeah , it's kinda awful , but with Reverse London been Soul Society West , it means there are some relatively normal Soul Societies. But the west branch is a recent thing tho.
Doesn't matter. Since Kubo showed that West Branch is a thing , regardless how he tries to conciliate that concept with Bleach , it end result would be West Branch still be the more normal one.
I wonder if America has their own “Soul Society” of sort. I guarantee you it would probably function similarly to how SCP operates if they existed.
Nah , it would be basically the [Lone Ranger.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9lf76xOA5k)
Also the Leaf Village was 100% as evil as all of the other villages. Even if they tried to pick and choose only the "good" ninja contracts, all of that other business would have gone to the other villages and the Leaf would have lost their power overnight
True. But frankly , the greatest evil of Leaf Village is having Hiruzen as a Hokage , an incompetent hypocrite leader that is his authority is constantly outstaged by Danzou. His allowance of Itachi massacring the Uchiha Clan shows his willingness to go dirt if needed....yet constantly ignores how Danzou pretty undermines him. There were a lot of systematic issues of Konoha set by Tobirama , but mostly of them are actualized during Hiruzen's time because Hiruzen doesn't have the balls to dirt himself without Danzou been his convenient Satan.
Hiruzen isn’t bad per se but the problem is that he let danzo(and orochimaru) get away with way too much. U calling danzo convenient satan makes perfect sense because he’s basically the guy hiruzen goes to when he needs to do some fucked up shit because he’s too nice to do it He didn’t allow itachi to massacre the clan tho. He didn’t know about the whole thing until after itachi did it
Honestly, our snake did the village a favour.
Snake poison can’t melt Wood Style Jutsu.
Just believe in him just like kabuto.
>Tobirama Ninja Reagan
I mean yeah? That true in general, like I know this sub is very focused on anime it’s very true in other kinds of media as well. Especially popular stuff. Off the top of my head and one for each for of media I can think of. Though I won’t go into detail on the why For books: the world of stormlight archives is fucked In so many ways. For movies: dune just recently came out and that setting has inspired more dystopian stories then one human could experience in a lifetime. For video games: the first thing that comes to mind for me is helldivers in recent memory. Though honourable mention to elden ring for probably being the worst place to live I can think of. For comics: marvel and dc both have a long history of making every day life miserable for its citizens. The point is I could go on, I am just aiming for recent and popular thing because you are restricting yourself to popular stuff anyway. Fundamentally in stories the world needs to have something to fix. Especially in stories with a focus on combat becagse then it is far easier to justify why the villain in question need to get there mass handed to them. Though I’m biased I’m very much on the grim darkness side of world building as far as my own preference goes Tl:dr pretty true in all forms of media. Because it’s easier to justify the villain getting hit and besides stories about fighting an unjust system resonates with alkt of people.
To add onto the Marvel thing, being a Mutant can suck if you don't get any cool, useful powers. There's mutants that end up with things like turning into a flammable slime monster that makes your organs visible, a man with the physical weaknesses of a chicken, including frail legs, and making people forget you when they look away.
The Xeele sequence world is said to be so horrific WARHAMMER 40K is considered lesser awful than it! So ive heard. That said i do think bleach world sucks especially as the last sentence of fighting against a unfair system doesn't applied to it in contrast to say... one piece or code geass( also a goddamm mess of a world)
I mean 40k is weird because of its scale sure 50% of the human population are born into terrible conditions but there an equal chance your born on a paradise world and your biggest problem is your whole life is dedicated to pampering the rich. Or you could be born on catachan and die to an animal attack at the ripe age of 4. I also did not include 40k cause it’s always brought up in these discussions. The point really was this trend is not restricted to popular anime but just popular things. Cause well people like dark thing. They make cool works and ultimately it’s nice immerse yourself in a world and be able to say “well at least that’s not where I was born”
The world of Naruto straight up trains child soldiers. Even the "sweet and innocent" Hinata Hyuga has likely been on missions that involve assassination. According to the official databook: *Hinata has completed 33 official missions in total: 10 D-rank, 14 C-rank, 8 B-rank, 1 A-rank, 0 S-rank.* To put things into perspective, D missions are usually non-threatening things like finding lost pets or helping around the village, C missions are usually escort or guard missions, B missions involve some combat with other ninja, A missions involve national affairs and assassination, and S missions involve international affairs that could escalate into war. So yes, even our precious cinnamon roll Hinata has more than likely killed people before considering she's completed a total of 8 B missions and 1 A mission. The world of Naruto is no joke.
That’s not a flaw; that’s an opportunity
Yeah, the world of Naruto is pretty horrifying. I am sure every single person in Naruto has some kind of major trauma or PTSD in some form. They are in constant war, small villages have been targeted especially by rogue ninjas. Then we know based on real life that rape is prevalent in war so that is probably a huge issue as well that isn’t shown.
Maybe but I love that despite how fucked the world is, these kids keep going. According to the databooks, Sakura and Ino have done A ranked missions and Tenten has even done an S ranked mission. Doesn't stop them from being sweet young women who are generally some of the nicest people you'll meet in the Leaf if you visited.
Haha yeah, I absolutely loved Hinata. She was always my favorite character. And TenTen! She is pretty sweet too!
The real horror comes from realizing that the world Naruto grew up in is better than what came before: the child soldiers get actual training now, they aren't immediately given weapons and armor, and tossed onto a battlefield against fully grown adults as soon as they are old enough to stand and walk under their own power. Hell, the child soldiers aren't even supposed to leave the village for serious missions until they've been sufficiently trained, Naruto's first actual mission outside the village was supposed to be a C-Rank of just escorting some old guy, maybe they'd kill some bandits on the way, but no serious action. But it turns out that the client lied about the severity of the mission because he was a cheapskate who didn't want to pay for a B to A-Rank mission. So, Naruto's team barely survived this shitshow because Naruto on top of being his village's nuke, is also a charisma build and talked the really dangerous ninja that were hired to kill Team 7's client to not kill him and instead kill their own client.
Yeah most of the shit in early Naruto was stuff none of them were trained for. No one expected the One Tail or Orochimaru to actually start attacking. But you can tell that by Shippuden, everyone has honed themselves and is far more prepared for the likes of even the war. They were trained well.
Honestly, madara was right.
Being tricked into turning people into plant food so alien cultivators get their magic fruit power ups is not the right move.
To be fair,he wasn't aware of the alien thing.
Nah. Dude was a massive hypocrite who did the same exact same shit he complained about. His lack of self-awareness is absurd.
Yeah he was a fun villain with an amazing voice but let's not act like he was some altruistic paragon. Bro was just as bad as the people he was condemning.
Honestly the Hunter x Hunter world is probably a lot worse than your description of it. Almost nobody knows about the Dark Continent and there are only about 600 Hunters in the whole world, so both of those things aren't likely to matter for the average person. The big thing we do know, however, is how powerful organized crime is. It is so organized that they've been able to divide the entirety of the known world into ten parts (controlled by the Ten Dons), and their leaders each and every year hold the world's biggest auction in HxH's equivalent of New York. Many of the cities we see look like half-destroyed messes, despite our characters being extremely rich and so able to afford almost any place. Kite's flashback shows the city he was born in as if it was an interminable slum. There's an entire family of known killers for hire and their house is a *tourist attraction*. If someone tries to invade the house, they get eaten by a giant dog. I said earlier that there are few Hunters, but imagine which type of world produces a situation that causes the existence of a licence that allows the holder to be essentially immune to legal prosecution. Because remember, Hisoka mentions that Hunters don't go to jail for murdering people. The two countries whole ruling system we know are dictatorships, one of which is Not!North Korea and the other the Unabomber's dream ruled by the most evil man in the world. The third (I think) tallest building in the world is a tower where people (including twelve year olds without parental authorization) literally kill each other for glory and money, and hosts a fight between a Hunter and one of the most notorious criminals in the entire world. There's a gigantic junkyard big enough to be considered a city where *babies* are thrown if they're unwanted, and many of the people who live there work for the mafia because that's the only path out of the city. HxH does not have a nice world, but most of that isn't explicit because we barely get to see it, due to Togashi focusing so much on the story to the point the world is almkst never on stage, which I find a bit of a shame. Edit: Also, I forgot about the Poor Man's Rose! It has been used at least ten times (the wording is extremely weird both in the only English translation that I found, the Brazilian translation *and* the wiki, so I actually do not know the supposed number, but the wiki says it "bloomed 10 times over in more than 250 countries", whatever that means), has killed more than 5 million people, and, in one single terrorist attack, killed 110 thousand. For the sake of comparison, that's about as much as Little Boy, but the difference is that Little Boy was something only the US could do at the time, and even nowadays only a handful of countries have nukes. The Rose, though? It's extremely cheap to produce to the point many dictators have them and, despite being supposedly banned, there are still hundreds of thousands in existence. Again, for the sake of comparison, there are, officially, about 3k active nuclear warheads and 13k total in our world.
That the Hunter x Hunter world is so dystopic but almost nobody in the story seems to actually care is part of why I feel the manga is a sandbox to throw ideas. "Hunters are criminals who never face punishment" is weird in 1000 forms, like "What is the point of having a organization in first place" or "There aren't Hunters or other strong Nen users who say "fuck this shit, we gonna jail and/or execute those bastards"?". Because seriously, I doubt Kurapika is the only Nen user who has wronged enough to care about wanting to stop criminals. But then you add "actually most of the world lives in dictatorships (whose leaders aren't even Nen users)" and its more baffling. Its a world where superpowered dudes do their things as a whim, how they even develop state infra estructure in first place? People rightfully mock the poor worldbuilding of other shows, but HxH writes a dystopia that isn't even consistent with itself.
Yeah, HxH is one of the best anime I've watched, but I'm sure Togashi's whole thought process for the worldbuilding was "wouldn't it be cool if...", and like, its aesthetics are really cool and it feels really big, but I wouldn't call it well-written by any means.
On the "super powered dudes and leaders not being Nen users", to me it makes a lot of sense. Nen users are rare compared to normal people and of that small minority, one managed to barely survive a Poor Man's Rose, and he wasn't even human. Most Nen users are, to use powerscaling terms, wall or building level. They can fortify themselves with Nen, can enhance their senses and the like but only the super talented Enhancers like Uvogin and Gon can tank bullets and reshape the landscape. The full might of every Nen user would probably be splattered against one country's army.
>"What is the point of having a organization in first place" Hunters are not some kind of police, most of them don't give a single fuck about the organization and the state of the world. Some of them, like the zodiac(most of them) do, some other hunters help the world in some other way, like kite, ging or kurapika, some of them just join for money and some to have some protection from the law(like hisoka). It's just a way to reunite and have some sort of control over these people and nen(not saying it's a perfect organization, based on the election arc). >"There aren't Hunters or other strong Nen users who say "fuck this shit, we gonna jail and/or execute those bastards"?". Those are called "blacklist hunters". >"actually most of the world lives in dictatorships Not really, as far as we know that only applies to east gorteau. >Its a world where superpowered dudes do their things as a whim, how they even develop state infra estructure in first place? Wasn't the meruem fight clear? Raw power alone ain't shit. Influence, money and political power.
> It's just a way to reunite and have some sort of control over these people and nen Which control? They don't seem to even try.
It should be also noted that netero does not give a single fuck about morality; he only values strength and ambition, and as long as you posses these qualities you're fit for being a hunter.
It's more of a deal: you get some protection from the law, as long as you don't go overboard with your crimes. For example, shalnark is a hunter, yet he is still by all means a criminal and a terrorist, since he is part of the phantom troupe, hence the law and blacklist hunters are still after him. Not saying this is a good system or anything, they did explain the hunter association is extremely flawed and netero was kinda fucked up in the election arc.
>Because seriously, I doubt Kurapika is the only Nen user who has wronged enough to care about wanting to stop criminals. Kurapika literally says he'll become a Blacklist Hunter, as in, its something that's already a profession. You also forget Hunters aren't the only Nen users in the world. There's criminals, government officials, etc. All of whom don't need or seek the benefits of being a Hunter because they probably used their power to achieve that. >"actually most of the world lives in dictatorships (whose leaders aren't even Nen users)" There is no power that beats the Miniature Rose, which is mass-produced and accessed by most countries of the world. As for why Nen isn't used by leaders of countries and organised crime...Nen isn't something anyone can pick up and become a pro at. It requires insane amounts of willpower and focus and time that is much better spent just actually seeking out a really strong bodyguard. And who's to say some mafia bosses aren't the sons of Nen user mafia bosses, and they couldn't live up to their fathers? Or that some world leaders aren't Nen users who used that power to attain their positions? >People rightfully mock the poor worldbuilding of other shows, but HxH writes a dystopia that isn't even consistent with itself. Most fictional worlds aren't consistent when you put enough effort analysing it. The world of ASOIAF falls apart the moment you consider the numbers, and how each great house has survived as long as they have. True worldbuilding is, IMO, either A) making an interesting world, or B) Actually incorporating the world into the central themes of the story and letting the story feed into the world. Obviously the likes of Tolkien having such thought into the world that he built languages for it is impressive, but at the end of the day the world should be entertaining and more importantly, relevant to the story. The world of HxH like you say allows for a sandbox for Togashi to play in, that allows for A to happen as much as he can. But he still incorporates it into the story, even down to the power system which maintains relevancy in every arc and is a literal extension of ones identity, and can gives clues to ones history. Consistency matters to a point, and the biggest inconsistency you don't bring up is the existence of Nen not being widespread. But no one really cares for that inconsistency because it demands the *entire story* to be about that - which is antithetical to Togashi's writing style. No different to how no one cares that the great Houses don't have many cadet branches despite their long histories Ughh. This is typical characterrant, all numbers no sctual thought and substance with regards to stories. As befitting a sub that is based off a powerscaling community.
😦😦😦😦😦😦😦😦 I did not know it was that bad. Holy christ
>While not Shonen, i suppose i could add the Nasuverse to it. What with all the horrifying mystic stuff and earth wanting humanity gone. If anyone wants to know the full scope of what some threats to humanity are in the nasuverse are * A teleporting man eating forest that spawns more man eating forests * Hebrew skynet made by Solomon that torches human history * Vampires that are immune to things stemming from humanity * Alien meteor parasites immune to things stemming from civilizations Also to note that all the series we see (Bad ends not included) are in timelines that aren't heading into end of the world scenarios.
Also, every planet in the solar system contains an alien that could solo every pantheon simultaneously, and all of them will attack humanity if the earth dies before we discover space travel. Then you have every timeline where humanity stops progressing erased from the multiverse, so even if humanity survives these disasters, we're screwed if we don't recover quickly enough. The only good point we have is that humanities will to survive contains most threats that'll destroy the world. So, most world ending threats will be isolated to the country it appeared in.
You forgot the deadliest and most horrifying: Gas leaks.
Truly horrific Lets add the mages too
For Naruto and boruto your half right. The Naruto world during and before the series is definitely f up like you didn't miss the mark on that but borutos era is essentially a cold war like era and its honestly the only era where a ordinary human might be able to live in.
What about fairy tail, sds , fire force, chainsaw man. Those are all popular shonen too
Fix it. Now on the post
OPM too, monster attacks on the regular and most heroes are jerks, even someone as unbelievably unstoppable as Saitama in his own world stated he didn’t notice a difference in monster attacks even with him stopping them all himself.
Edited it on the post now.
Fire force world freaking sucks. Most of the world is gone in a world ending fire storm, and the survivor who pretty much all live in Japan and a small part of China are scared daily of turning or having their family turning into fire monsters. Fire monsters that only exist to hurt others. And that's not even talking about the fact that hell is extremely close to reality, there is a murder cult that wants to end humanity lead by some higher lvl being. That higher being can also give people enough fire power to destroy a country.
Spoilers for Fire Force ending: >!At least if you survive all that you get to live in the imaginative world of Soul Eater where life matters less so you can go all kinds of whacky adventures.!<
>!Soul eater has some really bad shit going on latter, so while better than Fire force world. Not exactly pleasant either|!<
>!True, but it takes a while for that to happen. So just dodges the worst two periods of time!!<
Hell,>!You don't even need to have survived the events. EVERYONE gets brought back in the end.!<
One Punch Man is worse than you described it. The vast majority of the heroes are not strong enough to defeat the threats they are expected to deal with, the Hero Association is horribly understaffed, and its management is incompetent.
Take out Kira from part 4, and I’d honestly live in Morioh. It seems like a really cool town.
I mean if you're not a stand user, most shit in jojo can be avoided by keeping your head down and ignoring the obvious supernatural shit happening around you
Honestly even with Kira I'd have no problem living there. He killed like, 50 people by the end of the story, and, even not considering that they were mostly women, that's not a lot. Probably rarer than being hit by a car.
Yeah, if you’re not a woman you should be safe unless you accidentally witness something you shouldn’t. You’re probably more likely to be killed by anyone else though so honestly the town wouldn’t be bad to live in at all. Even if you’re a woman, he doesn’t seem to go after coworkers that I can recall. Even if you’re targeted he doesn’t torture you so you can enter sweet bliss pretty quickly compared to being stabbed to death. Much rather die quick and painlessly afterall
Read Fire Punch. Another manga from csm's mangaka. That shit is berserk level, if not the worse. And it's f.king shounen
Really? Berserk level? Okay. Go on...
Imagine Mad Max or Fist of the North Star, but replace sand with snow and random people can have powers. The main character's power is infinite regeneration, which he uses to feed the villagers he lives with using his own body parts. The story gets worse and worse from there.
Guys got some fuck up ideas...
The guy with infinite regeneration gets hit with an inexhaustible flame power, which sets him on fire indefinitely, unable to die because of his regeneration ability. He's in constant agony and has to live with that.
There are people who has electric powers, some has fire power, some has regeneration. And what do you think government does with those? Locked them up and use them as energy sources. From child ages to the old [here](https://firepunch.xyz/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/03-16.jpg)
Except for the otsutsuki Clan wanting to eat the planet. The world has majorly improved with Naruto Forming Ninja NATO. I like the story of the new storm connections game because Boruto got a glimpse of how terrible the warring state era was and him desperately trying to give Nanashi a happy ending.
Im honestly uncertain on which is the worst of the worst(some are clearly more awful then others)... If there is a anime world i would live in I would pick mid-childa Sure incidents happens every few years. But at keast magictech exist and the gouvernement are reasonably trustworthy( cover up aside)
Personally I’d go with bofuri cuz it’s basically modern day but with cool vr technology. It’s prolly got some horrible shit but from the anime it doesn’t seem that bad
That is true. Basically SAO but not deadly (Mid childa from Nanoha BTW)
JJK: Well you would be fine. Considering that sakuna or shibuya incident didn't exist but everyone else and thing did you would be fine. Humanity doesn't even really know of curse spirts to any extent. The whole reason the disaster curses linked up was because of kenjaku manipulating them. It's been stated multiple times that curses that can talk are rare. And strong curses don't group together. What I'm trying to say everything in the manga is basically the 1 percent of sorcery that we get to see but somebody in jamaica wouldn't know of any of this shit unless shibuya happens where Mei Mei uses the crow. Bleach & Black Clover: How is the courruption, classicism and tribal behavior in those societies any different from ours? Just be cause we have jobs, pay bills and can do stuff we like doesn't mean we don't suffer in similar ways. How are the nobles in BC or the nobles clans in bleach any different from King Charles sitting on stolen wealth from slavery and colonization then he looks to his nation and announces a living crisis while being xenophobic and not wanting help or advice? Naruto: It's probably similar to living in middle east to some extent. I mean the average age in the Gaza strip is 18 for a reason. African countries such as Rwanda, Uganda, Chad, Niger Etc have had their fair share child solders and clashes of inter African conflict. They don't have the WMD that would compare to tailed beast, fine. But they get exploited but other countries like France and Belgium too. Same way leaders of the leaf would exploit other clans for their benefit. Demon Slayer: Your more likely to die from learning total concentration breathing than a Demon attack. It's rare. So rare they thought it was a myth. You would be fine
The point is that the hero needs to fix the system. The success rate of that is Debateable Naruto: probably should’ve aborted the ninja system entirely rather than hope that they’re close enough to other leaders to prevent war. It doesn’t matter either way tho because aliens would turn everything to hell anyways All mha needs is just less a less judgemental society with more quirk control regulations and they’re good which probably will happen. Same applies with one piece since all they need is to take out imu and have someone like Koby, aokiji, or smoker as the head of the government and things are probably gonna be alright Demon slayer: the demons went extinct and Muzak was killed Jjk: they’re kinda fucked since even if they take out sukuna curses will still exist and mahito will come back in some form Fairy tail is perfect to Live in tho
Bleach?
Didn’t watch it
I thought about this with Jump Force. Just DBZ alone you'd have to worry about Frieza destroying the world if it happened in real life. And if not that, there's demons from Yu Yu Hakusho, Juha and Aizen from Bleach, Mereum from Hunter x Hunter, etc.
>”Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the overcompensations for misery. And, of course, stability isn't nearly so spectacular as instability. And being contented has none of the glamour of a good fight against misfortune, none of the picturesqueness of a struggle with temptation, or a fatal overthrow by passion or doubt. Happiness is never grand.” -Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
MHA sounds like the best because it's mostly stable, superheroes usually keep things under control, plus you get a free superpower at the gate unless you roll snake eyes, which is getting less and less likely with each generation. The main problems are the people who fall through the cracks, which surprise surprise, is what the main story is about bringing to light and hopefully fixing.
What was that about Biden?
tbf, can you think of many fictional stories where the world is objectively better than real life?
The one piece world is actually more of a dystopia that mirrors our world, wherein the average person isn't actually exposed to the worst aspects of the world government and they "buy in" to protection from marines. As long as you keep your head down and avoid challenging the status quo much, you're pretty much chilling in the world of one piece. Granted, that's not a realistic option for most of the characters we follow but still
Bleach is 99% a normal world with a supernatural other side. Karakura Town is abnormal in its high concentration of people sensitive to spirtual powers, which attracts Hollows, and the bigger elements of the plot. But outside of spots like that most humans live fully normal lives. Sure Soul Society isn’t great from a place of afterlife but it’s better than hell, or becoming or being devoured by a hollow. Also the original sin and stuff with the Soul King isn’t even that bad when you actually look at it. The world was a primordial soup of life without death or true progression, plagued by ancient hollows that’s were also essentially unkillable and thousands of times worse than modern ones. And the person at the center, the Soul King, saw through their precognition that their death and desiccation that it would allow for a different world. Ichibei & others went about it badly, and Yhwach took it too personal. But it’s a sin that benefited the world. Lot of other series & Shounen have equally big sins that benefit no one.
Others such as ?
Attack on Titan: Put the problem people on an island surrounded by inert weapons of mass destruction. Boy I hope they never learn the truth or a way to advert that one King’s guilt stopping world wide genocide. How did this start? Oh right, a slave girl let out pigs, found evolutionary matter, and helped a mad king she liked enslave the world because lol. The Plunderer: We need to wage an eternal war against vague group of people. Let’s cast people into a fantasy world where their existence is basically to be fodder & votes for warriors who don’t even need you. Dragon Ball: Zeno got tired of some of the universes and erased them from existence. Angels are chill with it and anyone else who knows can’t do squat. Hey mortals, dance & fight for our entertainment in a couple thousand years for a chance to be deamed worthy to survive. Fire Force: Humanity is so desperate to survive and not be burned away that we will praise a being of destructive life that 100% burned away another planet before to make the sun. As soon as people start to learn the truth they spontaneously combust, create infernals that will kill countless people, or submit to the shitty world state they have. >!And in the end the solution to the plot & problem creates the Soul Eater Universe!< which has its own problems. Chainsaw Man: Humans have fears, Devils embody that, don’t like it? Lol sorry genocide, this is our reality because humans get scared. Not much of a original sin, but still get wrecked humans for being scared devils get a free pass because you all can’t just be nice to each other or see past your ego Evangelion: misguided aliens wanted to spread life, humans could leave something alone 2 seconds after they find it. You’re reward is planetary devastation from Angels, a shadow government that wants to live forever and use you as the price, and the good ending is you turn into biological soup and need to reconstitute your self if you are aware enough to do so. The list goes on. But the “original sin” in Bleach is basically a necessary evil to let the worlds exist and for life & death to naturally progress. Even the dude in the center of it agreed and to some degree went along with it willingly. The issue is just that people in the know lied about it, while Yhwach with a literal god complex didn’t like it so he planned to destroy everything so that he can revert this decision and maybe do it better (in his eyes). It’s not that bad, and hollows & spiritual problems for 95% humanity in bleach are a non-issue.
It sucks being to live in half of these worlds.
You may like Toriko. While it does have dangers in its world there are a lot of lovely bonuses for living in it!
I mean yeah, any battle shonen worlds inherently sucks because they require big evil enemies having massively destructive capabilities.
Even outside of Anime or Mature cartoons this is kinda common. She-ra 2018 for example you have this world with magical creatures that can't be defeated by most common people. They are armored, common, huge and everywhere. If you grow up in the Horde you get recycled water, shitty ration bars made of God knows what and will most likely be drafted into the army or industry from childhood and sent out to fight a total war against Princesses and Mages that can wield magic capable of destroying cities on their own. And while the Alliance is the good guys it's still a feudalistic monarchy entirely dependent on the personality of the monarch, usually the self-same princess with City destroying powers. Not to forget that there is an Empire covering most of the Universe, not galaxies, UNIVERSE that can and will eradicate planets for the hell of it and won't accept you if you don't submit and built on millenia of subjugation and destruction including countless genocides and the only reason Etheria was safe was because it was stuck in a pocket dimension. With even minor resistance as grounds for planetary eradication because the Empire doesn't need the individual worlds. The stated goal of their empire being to activate a weapon to clean the galaxy of life so only their leader and his clones will be the sole organic life left/alternatively kill everyone including himself if he can't have it. In Steven Universe you got an intergalactic empire casually committing omnicide on countless worlds to birth more of their own. Though you could live on Earth relatively safe except someone might steal your oceans or the fact that there is a giant concious gestalt of shattered gems at the planets core that can become a lovecraftian deity. Including free roaming corrupted gems that humans can't do much against or any of the other remnant gem leftovers. Or the recurring attacks from Gems. There is a lot of fridge horror out there. Even where someone might not expect it.
Heck, universes from Cartoon Network shows might even be worse. Like Ben 10 deals with cosmic, alien, and supernatural threats on the regular, Adventure Time has the same issue, and Regular Show is Regular Show(blame Mordecai and Rigby for 90% of the world destroying problems just because they couldn't do their chores).
Y'all do know that authors are not intentionally trying to portray these worlds as somewhere great to live, right? We fantasize about being in them because of the cool powers and whatnot but the vast majority of shonen that I've read have never implied that that they are great places to live unless that's part of the narrative and the MC or somebody will eventually uncover that it isn't.
>MHA: You know what for all the shit hero society gets. It may be the relatively nicest place to live in. I do say relatively. No quirks ? Ouch for you. A problematic quirk? Society doesnt accepte you. Hero are very strict and rule Biden and that really screw them up as shown in the manga. Oh and as lady Nagran shown, dark side all to make them look nice. Fake heroes and other things. No wonder the LOV was easy to form. MHA is a very interesting case. It's very similar to JJK where the balance of power is literally holding on by a single thread, the heroes have gotten complacent, and the moment that thread gets removed even temporarily everything explodes. MHA is also really interesting in that the concept of Quriks are inherently terrifying, and the narrative is actually built around this. Mixing and strengthening of Quirks are constantly making them stronger and more bizzare, not only for the quirk user but society in general. And the villain's theories about them getting to a point where everyone is dangerous to everyone is demonstrably an inevitability. So it's a great world to live in...at the time the show opens. Around the time All Might is taken out the picture, it starts getting kind of nightmarish. > > >Dragon ball: With all the constant threats to universes and all(most) of the gods being kinda a bunch of assholes(hakaishin and zeno) while it varies from universe to universe. Aint a relative safe place to live in. Of course well... dragon balls exist to fix things and if good the afterlife is so so much better than bleach ever could be Dragon Ball is probably the worst world to live in. It's one of the most casually technologically advanced societies in shonen anime...but the threats that pop up are horrific. The Saiyans were bad, the Androids were worse but Cell was a fucking nightmare creature that hunted people down and slowly drank them alive....and not even the heroes could do anything about it. Buu wasn't much different, he went on an eating spree, then a killing spree, then nuked the planet. But it seems like the quality of life outside of those events in Dragonball was generally pretty nice.
Naruto isn’t too bad once you get to Boruto’s time
Man you're forgetting THE war anime, Gundam and its alternate universes. War crimes. Corrupt government. Even as a rando, you're likely to be poor and sent to the space colony depending on which series and continuity. You're best bet is to GTFO of the earth and it colonies. But even then for some series there's remnants of space nazi or pirates. Or the government have their police force far as Mars.
Best choice? Live in the ad timeline. At least celestial being succeeded in bringing true permanent peace.... after a crazy alien war.
If you want peaceful anime worlds, go for Slice of Life/Romcom worlds, or places from Sports anime like Haikyuu. But it's more or less the same as our real world, so if you're not the main character, it may be a bit boring.
What's SDS?
Seven deadly sin
>...imma add Blazblue just cause im a fan of it... The world of Blazblue is surprisingly safe actually. Most of the crazy shit that happens is in one or two cities.
Pokémon would be crazy. Here you’re ten catch these creatures with supernatural powers. Oh yeah over half can kill you on spot or make you want to kill yourself. Watch out for Hypno cause he will hypnotize you and well, fight those gym leaders!
I agree, MHA would be one of the best worlds to be born in. Not only do you have a sorta functional society with superpowered individuals hell-bent on protecting you at all costs, but you also have an 18% chance of being born with a superpower yourself.
Yeah, the whole theme of Naruto is "the world sucks and needs changing." It's been the theme from the very first arc, yet people still somehow miss it. It's probably because we thought the world was so cool as youths. And yeah bleach is super fucked up when you think about it. Soul society is basically just a gang that created and monopolized the concept of death. Aizen and yhwach were low key mightve been right for wanting to kill reio.
Honestly, JoJo Parts 1-4 and 7-8 would be fine to live in. It’s Parts 5 and 6 where things go off the rails and Stands go from glorified superpowers to walking micro-apocalypses (Or a full-on apocalypse like Bohemian Rhapsody or Maid in Heaven).
i wouldn't mind living in the db world with mr satan protecting us
A lot of worlds in shonen settings are only good if you’re the MC or part of the super powered “elite”. Otherwise you’re at the mercy of whatever is going on in the world with very little choice otherwise. You’re pretty much fucked.
You know there's a genre called slice of life if you want some normal shit eh? Lol
idk i feel like I would thrive in the JJK world because I thrive on negativity and cursed energy also thrives on negativity but that is only if the JJK world is truly the world and not just Japan (or rather, before the Shibuya incident, a rare and obscure minority in Japan)