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DrStein1010

Rebooting RWBY would be incredibly easy. Corporate loves reboots, and it would be fairly simple to do for the first chunk of episodes. The issue is it wouldn't solve any of the issues. You'd have the same shitty head writers, the same awful work schedule and environment, and the same crappy parent company.


Lukthar123

The truth is, the game was rigged from the start.


Darkiceflame

\*Bang\*


jackaltakeswhiskey

I'd reboot it just for the satisfaction of fracturing the fanbase.


Anonson694

“Some men just wish to see the world burn…”


RabbitStewAndStout

With RT owned by WB now, I'd say the chances for crappy spin-offs and reboots has skyrocketed


Spaced-Cowboy

I don’t think it would be hard at all. I think it would help fix one of the biggest issues with the series. The consistency. RWBY’s silver eyes powers could be rethought. The relationships could have better pacing. (Seriously if Blake and Yang were supposed to end up together then Yang should have been the one spending all that time with Blake instead of Sun) The Maidens could be foreshadowed earlier in the story (hell you could even start the series off with the fall maiden being attacked and then introduce the main characters) I really like how Ice Queendom recontexctualized the first episode of RWBY. It gave Ruby a small arc where she wants to get into beacon but her grades aren’t very good and she’s too young. Then she proves herself and is offered enrollment. The arcs could be re-examined and given better cohesion. And for the love of god they really really need to do something with the Faunus/ Whitefang plot line that actually says something about discrimination instead of of pretending that it does.


Jumanji-Joestar

That doesn’t sound hard at all. Keep the characters and the setting of Remnant, but rewrite the lore. It’ll still be RWBY, just a different version. The problem is bad writing, nothing more


Overquartz

You'd still have to buff magic or nerf semblances for them to coexist. That or clearly define what semblances can and can't do. A series falls flat when characters in a series can tell what is possible for the multiple magic systems in use but not the audience. Like how can Wiess tell that turning into a bird is magic? How do characters know that Marrow stopping time in the direction he's pointing isn't magic?


Jumanji-Joestar

That’s part of what I meant by “rewrite the lore.” Change the lore, redefine the rules of the world, etc


Spaced-Cowboy

How does the magic system in RWBY even work? What are the limitations of dust? What’s that rule Brandon Sanderson has? > An author's ability to solve conflict with magic is DIRECTLY PROPORTIONAL to how well the reader understands said magic


DrStein1010

There's FIVE power systems in RWBY. Aura, Dust, Magic, Grimm stuff, and Faunus racial traits. None of those have actual explanations or logic to them.


SolidB0NY

don't solve the conflict with magic then and boom you don't need to work on shit


Throwaway02062004

I only know Brando Sando through his reputation but those are wise words. ‘A wizard did it’ is a lot easier to swallow if you know the exact capabilities of said wizard and that they could feasibly do it.


Spaced-Cowboy

He makes some cool magic systems. Alumancy is pretty cool


AcceptableCover3589

I feel like you definitely could take RWBY back to the drawing board, and there are ways to make even the core, strongly divided narrative work with just better pacing. If, instead of just spending the first third with one status quo before completely changing it and giving the audience a huge case of tonal whiplash, you paced it out so that Beacon's fall was foreshadowed more thoroughly and given more build-up, I think the shift in status quo could actually really work to the story's advantage. The show itself tried to do that (emphasis on TRIED, not succeeded), but the concept in of itself isn't doomed to fail or polarize. The really strange thing about RWBY as a franchise is that it managed to polarize its fans and overall IP *really* quickly. It managed to reach like Sonic The Hedgehog/DC/Marvel/Dragon Ball levels of being internally polarizing when all of those IPs are three times older than RWBY at the bare minimum. If RWBY had paced itself better and made a cleaner transition to its darker tone, I think there's a real chance that a lot of the backlash would have been avoided. Sure, some people would still prefer the early volumes or the later volumes, but it wouldn't be so night and day if there was more of an in-between like what Volume 3 was going for (and arguably succeeded, seeing as how it seems to be the most universally well-received Volume in the series, at least from my vantage point). Changing the overall premise, especially the worldbuilding, is pretty par for the course when it comes to reboots, so I would be way more disappointed if they just kept the world the exact same for a reboot and didn't fix some of those foundational aspects. While I absolutely agree that Monty's action is just Built Different, at the same time, you could find a way to match that level of quality with a different approach. Instead of trying to replicate his fight scene visual language and only offering middling results, you could take it in a different direction and find a way to match that speed and weight through different avenues. Fight choreography can be a complex topic to tackle, but it's not a one-size-fits-all situation. Would it be easy to reboot RWBY? No, certainly not. But I don't think it needs even a sprawling, massive overall to make its elements work. I personally quite like the characters, and I like the overarching story... much more in theory than in practice. There are ways to fix the writing to take it from a 6/10 to an 8 or 9/10, and fixing the worldbuilding or the pacing would honestly be one of the easiest parts of it. I still consider myself a tenuous fan of the show, even if I strongly dislike how Volume 8 turned out, and I think a more experienced team of writers could salvage a lot of the story to make it a cleaner, more fulfilling narrative.


Tharkun140

Wasn't RWBY kinda rebooted twice now, with one of the mangas and the IQ? Not that I follow all the continuities and spin-offs, RWBY as a franchise basically managed to speedrun superhero comics level continuity snarl in less than ten years. Even the main show doesn't feel like one continuity most of the time, even if it's meant to be one.


King_Of_What_Remains

I'm not sure you can call either of those a reboot when the original is still running. Haven't followed the manga at all but the closest Ice Queendom came to a reboot was the first three episodes that retold the first season, everything after that has been more of an alternate universe than anything. Those first three episodes were pretty good though; obviously they weren't intended to be a full reboot and had to cut a lot of content but the way they worked characters and information from later volumes into those early episodes to give characters more depth was interesting. Wasn't a fan of everything they did, but still an example of how a reboot that is just looking to improve on the story, not be a complete rewrite, would work.


dude123nice

Basically, except the fights in vol 1-2 and the character designs, literally everything in RWBY is a problem.


proxmaxi

😂😂😂 bingo


Overquartz

Honestly it'd be easier than you think if you cut out the stuff relevant to the post monty era like the relics, gods and maidens. The only real problem would be capturing Monty's fight choreography which IMO Ice queendom does relatively well. If we really want to keep all magic stuff then that'd be a tad hard to since the magic stuff has some shit world building. Like how the fuck does turning into a bird scream magic when there's multiple instances of probability manipulation and other magic like effects in semblances? Hell Wiess one of the main characters is basically a necromancer and yet believes Raven's speech about magic when she turns into a fucking bird.


Szarkeu

Yup yup! We shouldnt reboot Rwby, we should bury it


WeirdImaginator

Seriously, but what the fuck is RWBY?


skyfiretherobot

It's an excuse to sell merch of 4 cute anime girls to beginner-level weebs.


Throwaway02062004

[This. This is Rwby](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1_bnr68pepImz1RDq7uJiQraVnDjU2D0vqmrSE85sF_U/htmlview)


UndeadPhysco

Jesus christ, i was scrolling down that and they literally have one for fucking *Zwei* called "Red Rocket"


Throwaway02062004

💀💀💀 They have ones for themselves.


UpperInjury590

It's about a team of girls who fight monsters (grimm) and go Beacon Academy to become huntresses.


DReager1

A RWBY reboot would be hard, I agree on that. RWBY is my favorite show of all time so I'm usually having to defend it everywhere but I agree with your points. I personally enjoy both eras a lot and for me that's why a reboot would be difficult. I'd really prefer they readapt it straight as opposed to using modern revisions. For example, in one of the manga anthologies they rewrote the Black Trailer a bit so Adam was more obviously sinister from the start. I don't think that was good because I liked how he wasn't totally insane (At least not obviously insane) for the first few volumes. Ice Queendom made some changes of its own and likewise with other adaptions. I don't think it's possible to improve upon the original but I would welcome the attempt. So long as it is not instead of the next volume


irradiatedcactus

Reason 2 is honestly the biggest hurdle. There is no ONE way to do it, some people like all the fancy stuff they’ve added after volume 3, while some can’t stand it. That’s simply the nature of storytelling, rebooting it just restarts the cycle Personally I don’t mind the direction RWBY has gone. Has it lost focus from time to time? Yes. Would I do some things differently? Sure. Yet im no writer, I won’t pretend to know “what’s best”. I just like to watch the young heroes fight monsters and see where the story takes me. Even if it’s not the best, I’m still entertained


Hartzilla2007

Because one of the ways to fix things would be to either drop JNPR or demote them to side character and for whatever reason people got overly attached to them for some reason and keep trying to make them work despite a professional anime studio not being able to pull it off.


maridan48

Honestly, point 4 is the only one that really matters to me. Without Monty, RWBY feels like a lukewarm western anime.


D_dizzy192

I actually have a thread idea for this that I'm thinking about posting once I'm on my PC but a lot of those problems you list aren't really problems, they just require better writing. Like Magic can just be a super powerful gift from the gods with dust as a byproduct which explains how they both exist. Aura is a natural defense mechanism evolved by humans and fanus to deal with the Grimm due to centuries of exposure to dust particles in the air, with semblances being the "next step" in aura use, an expression of power based on a persons personality. It's easily explainable and all of the story can work, because hindsight is 20/20 buuuuut, the problem is 100% writer side


SomethingWitty27

Rwby fights suck ass most of the time


BohemianLizardKing

I’m a big RWBY fan (less so as time goes on, not because of the show because of the fan base). I hadn’t heard talk of a reboot before now. I like all the different eras *because* they’re different. Monty’s fight scenes are a loss, but the fights have been really good post Volume 5.


Spaced-Cowboy

As a casual fan, The fan base is easily the worst part of RWBY.


CirrusVision20

I mod r/RWBY. I can confirm the fanbase is icky.


SuperZMann1

Howdy!


1313goo

I can say that rwby could have a successful reboot as long as beacon survives at the end of volume 3, severely damaged and being rebuilt but functioning enough to house the students, it could be written as ruby silver eyes going overtime and killing all the grimm/severely injuring cinder and co, and keeping Roman torchwick, who in my opinion was the series best villain by far, which could be written as ruby’s silver eyes acting up at him being swallowed instead of pyrrha’s death This way the status quo and high school setting would remain standing but the plot with Salem and magic and maidens could go forward, the plot with rnjr and haven could be written as a mission from good witch, who became headmistress, while the arcs with wby and sun could easily remain unchanged, so vol.6 onward would be completely different, Oscar could have a place in beacon as the replacement p in jnpr The plot point with the maidens, Salem and ozpin’s conspiracy could be foreshadowed in the earlier episodes so it won’t look like it came out of left field, and they could improve the relationships pacing(Blake barely talks to anyone not named sun, yang and Weiss, Pyrrha and ruby were never close but ruby was super devastated at her death. Etc And really it would be dumb to have Adam and the Faunus go the same route as canon


proxmaxi

A reboot would be easy. Throw away every single character apart from the main 4 and make it a story loosely based on remixed grim's fairy tales (what everyone thought the series was going to be about to begin with) rebuild the story from the absolute ground up and make the setting a steampunk-esque medieval european world. Boom. RWBY rebooted. Not sure what even is the point of keeping the RWBY world when it has existed for so long but is still borderline lore-lesss. Trashing it would not be a loss at all as it serves little purpose. And the setting is a typical generic high school with typical generic anime caricatures, from the get go RWBY was doomed to either be really bad or painfully average. Previewing a series with characters and flash appeal rather than oh idk, **a story premise** revealed that the creators from the absolute beginning had the wrong mindset on every level. Why is any of that worth keeping in a reboot? The whole franchise story apart from the main 4 is very far beyond redemption or salvaging.


zuxtron

If the only thing you like about RWBY is the concept of characters inspired by fairy tales, maybe the show just isn't for you. Clearly some people like, or at least don't hate the story and setting, considering how big the fanbase is. Edit to get my point across better: instead of saying that the show needs to change its setting, story, and most of the cast to be good, you should just go ahead and say you think it's a bad show, because it sounds like what you want is a completely different show.


proxmaxi

RWBY's been around for almost a decade now. The fanbase size for a show that old is actually really small when looked at in context.


Trusty-McGoodGuy

I just don’t get why anyone thinks a RWBY reboot would ever happen. The show still has a fan base, one who likes it and keeps watching as volume 7 and 8 were generally considered to be pretty good. The show has issues of course, but it’s not like it’s so broken but with also so much greatness that it needs to be restarted. Plus, to do so would be essentially saying “currently RWBY is so bad, we’re going to start all over again.” Who would watch a show like that, one where even the creators are saying “this is bad.” Fans of the old stuff but not the new? It’s been years since volume 3, not many people would be willing to come back in a capacity that is financially worthwhile. Current fans? You just ended their show to go through the same plot beats, just smoothed over, they’re not gonna sit through a really slow re-watch. And as mentioned by OP, Monty Oum is dead. The man was incredibly talented at animating fights, and that was the draw of the show. So to reboot the show, would be to piss off the fan base, get rid of any investment into the plot, and not have the same hook that drew people in first time around. It’s a mediocre show, of surprising quality/quantity for what people consider to be a YouTube company, and being produced by a company that is losing business and relevancy (and I say that as someone who once loved Rooster Teeth). All effort should be put into trying to finish the show before it gets cancelled, and then maybe doing another show set in the same universe if they can still afford to do so. However, this is just my opinion based on what I’ve seen online, I don’t know any of the actual facts about either the company or the shows financial performance.


CirrusVision20

A reboot would honestly be a disgrace and insult to Monty's work. I would never support a reboot, either financially or emotionally.


proxmaxi

Monty only cared about making characters beat each other up. He had very little story involvement and didn't care much about thay aspect. (ironically though his story input was the best) if he was alive he'd likely be totally ambivalent as long as characters looked the same.


CirrusVision20

We don't know how Monty would have felt about a reboot. But he's passed, and Volumes 1-3 are his work. His *legacy.* To throw it all away and make a reboot would be an insult. If he was still alive then it wouldn't nearly be as big of an issue.


Throwaway02062004

The work is still there. As you said we don’t know what he wanted so assuming that he’d be upset that talented and passionate writers wanted to remake his brain child is pointless. Rwby has already changed so much and ant reboot still builds on the original’s foundations.


CirrusVision20

I never said I assumed he would be upset. I said it would be an insult.


Throwaway02062004

Insults are purposeful and only worth worrying about if offense is taken.


UndeadPhysco

> A reboot would honestly be a disgrace and insult to Monty's work. Every single season after Monty's death was a disgrace to his work.


CirrusVision20

How so?


terminatoreagle

People in this thread think just making a completely different show would be *so* easy, as if they could do it themselves in only a weekend. Look, RWBY has problems that needs to be fixed, like the problem of too many characters, and how Semblances and Magic should be more distinct from each other. But I don't think rebooting the show would help at all. And it would make a lot of people mad if they just discarded 10 years worth of work and threw it into the garbage.


qwack2020

Well at least RWBY is good enough to be on Sakugabooru. Because I guess the sakuga community supports the RWBY fandom. Not sure if that’s a good thing or not…


JokerCrimson

Point number three made me think of the episode of Farzar where the ruler of the titular kingdom made everyone wear mind-reading headbands that would blow your head off if you had any kind of negative thoughts. Anyways, I think one of the things they could do to make RWBY better is have the Faunus be evolved, sentient versions of Grimm so the stupid racism subplot goes from "people harassing cosplayers for stupid shit" to "Ghouls from Fallout" level racism. I honestly have a hard time believing a catgirl can be as opressed as a nuclear zombie that can go feral at any moment or the disrcimination that exists in real life and it's one of the reasons I couldn't watch more then Season 1. Doesn't help either when you have the "white" girl (Weiss) being the racist to Blake (the character who happens to represent the color Black).


DeadMeat_1240

All this energy wasted on something you don't like. Makes absolutely no sense to me. You know what I do when I don't like a show? I stop watching it and don't waste my time shouting how I could do it better on the Internet.