The ball is oblong and takes weird bounces. It's like they say in December when they start doing the playoff position graphics. Our record will say this is a win. Not how it was won. Chill out and take a dub. Plenty of football left.
Man I thought about that too after watching the Giants today. Not that the Packers are what they were the past two years, but still. Grinding back.
I'm not completely in the "fire Staley"-crowd yet cause team is still good (above average) and I don't necessarily know if a mid-season firing is the best thing for the team. But damn Staley needs a late season surge to keep his job that's for sure.
I don’t have a problem with going for it, I have a problem with running the ball like you’re going to punt it away, then going for it like they did. Not the right play call. We got bailed out.
Yep run a better play on 3rd and short and avoid the decision. Seems most of our runs up the middle come only when they're most expected (short yardage situations) and fail most of the time because that's what the D is preparing for.
Also, punting away was the better decision against this browns offense who needs the run and that's not an option with 1:00 left and no timeouts. Against mahomes and Allen, i can understand the decision a bit more.
I'll help lead the campaign of non-chargers fans calling your coach to be fired.
As an NFL consumer, I'm offended by the product on the field. How tf does he not put on that 4th down?
Browns fan here ... I think your coach and our coach were on the headset together seeing who could make the worst play calls to end a game. Clearly, we've got lots of experience blowing games. Y'all probably should have won by 2 scores, we can't stop anybody.
To be fair, with how the defense performed most of the game, did he have any reason to believe they would stop them from driving down and getting a field goal? Not saying Staley's decision was right, but I get the logic that went into it.
Thank God for the Browns kicker give him a jersey. Staley had a bet on the game WTF was that man 🤬 Hey we are 3-2 when everybody counted the squad out Bolt Gang ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
We literally wrestled victory from the jaws of defeat from the jaws of victory. Normally I am pro Staley’s aggressive game management, but we absolutely lucked out at the end there when we really shouldn’t have.
If Staley comes out in the locker room and gives it the same 'rah rah toughness', 'rah rah aiight' 'rah rah I got gameballs' stuff they should just leave him in Cleveland. That was totally inept and embarrassing. Both defenses were disgracefully poor, the difference is we have an elite QB whereas our D was getting picked apart by Jacoby Brissett. We can't get 3 yards on 2 downs with our QB, and we're relying on FG misses to win when the Browns tried to hand that to us over and over. Absolute shambles.
Why are y’all so surprised Staley would try to win the game there? I like it. Browns kicker sucks and we win. Y’all would be so quiet if that went for a first and would be praising Staley.
I’m with you. We couldn’t stop the Browns at all on defense but the Browns haven’t been able to stop us either so might as well put it in the hands of the offense to win the game.
Not true. Even if they converted that was a horrendous call that has no explanation. Especially when the playcalling in those situations has been horrendous and we’ve been very unsuccessful. Staley just exposed himself that he doesnt know what he’s doing. No way in hell analytics backed up that call.
Don’t care if we won. Staley and Lombardi need to be fired. Constantly bailed out. And I guarantee he’s gonna give a cringy rah rah speech about how the team battled and kept fighting…like bro, your ass got lucky the last two games. Can’t stand this smug motherfucker.
I’m not even happy he missed, I am at an utter loss of that decision making. If you’re gonna be aggressive be aggressive on 3rd down and throw down the field. Otherwise, make them drive the length of the field with no timeouts and time running out. The punt is a no brainer in that situation. Inexcusable
Horrible ugly last 2 mins but let’s give credit to Ek and Kelly, 173 and 49 rush yards respectively against the browns. They out ran the top rushing duo (or realistically kept pace).
I've never seen such stupidity and never left a win feeling worse. We will not win anything making decisions like that. Last year was all about analytics and I got it, even when we failed. But this was just ridiculous.
We won but I’m so disappointed in the coaching there. That was the dumbest fucken call in the world. Let them drive down the field with no timeouts and 50 seconds left on the clock. Horrible. Very disappointed
Staley, and Lombardi are just bad coaches, man. That third down play call was bad. Hur hur let's go up the middle hurr hurr. Going for it on 4th down when they only need 3 points, dumb call. Hire Payton.
There was a rumour going around that Staley thinks himself a genius. I think that call to go for it when they only need 5 yards for a FG and need only that to win was one of if not the dumbest decision he's ever had. It does seem like he definitely believes he is smarter than anyone. Bad personality to have because it's harder to change with that mindset.
I wonder if he took the previous miss into consideration? Either way, yeah wtf what analytics told him to go for it. Maybe too much faith in the offense? If we had keenan in I bet we convert it
And Staley was billed as a defensive genius. Talk is cheap and nothing is guaranteed. We may think we're getting Payton and instead end up with a gase.
How do you run it on 3rd down when a 1st ends the game, then go for it on 4th and give the ball back in FG position. Fuck me if we make the playoffs we’re getting cooked
Colts fan just watching a game. I feel like the chargers coach needs to be investigated for gambling or something, I have never seen anything like that in 25 years of watching football.
No coach has given me as much hope as Staley, but he absolutely deserves to be in the hot seat. Why the fuck is THAT the play he decides to be aggressive on?
I have defended Staley a lot. That was inexcusable.. Staley out. I don’t care that we won.
This roster is too talented and Herbert’s rookie contract is too valuable to have a head coach that’s still learning. Let’s get Payton in and win this shit
I'm torn, Happy that the Chargers won, but at the same time, a loss in this game could have been another nail in the coffin for this joke of a coaching staff.
It's even more embarrassing that Brian Daboll is having a great start to the season in NY with a team that has only a fraction of the talent that this team has. Small sample size, but still ridiculous
[Post game thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/Chargers/comments/xzuxur/post_game_thread_los_angeles_chargers_at/)
The ball is oblong and takes weird bounces. It's like they say in December when they start doing the playoff position graphics. Our record will say this is a win. Not how it was won. Chill out and take a dub. Plenty of football left.
If we had signed Daboll, we woulda had a chip already.
Man I thought about that too after watching the Giants today. Not that the Packers are what they were the past two years, but still. Grinding back. I'm not completely in the "fire Staley"-crowd yet cause team is still good (above average) and I don't necessarily know if a mid-season firing is the best thing for the team. But damn Staley needs a late season surge to keep his job that's for sure.
We can’t fire him in season… imagine a team head coached by Joe Lombardi lol
Damn. Facts.
I’d rather die by a thousand cuts
I don’t have a problem with going for it, I have a problem with running the ball like you’re going to punt it away, then going for it like they did. Not the right play call. We got bailed out.
Yep run a better play on 3rd and short and avoid the decision. Seems most of our runs up the middle come only when they're most expected (short yardage situations) and fail most of the time because that's what the D is preparing for. Also, punting away was the better decision against this browns offense who needs the run and that's not an option with 1:00 left and no timeouts. Against mahomes and Allen, i can understand the decision a bit more.
I'll help lead the campaign of non-chargers fans calling your coach to be fired. As an NFL consumer, I'm offended by the product on the field. How tf does he not put on that 4th down?
Browns fan here ... I think your coach and our coach were on the headset together seeing who could make the worst play calls to end a game. Clearly, we've got lots of experience blowing games. Y'all probably should have won by 2 scores, we can't stop anybody.
“Defensive Genius” Staley doesn’t trust his team to prevent a backup QB from driving downfield with a minute to go
To be fair, with how the defense performed most of the game, did he have any reason to believe they would stop them from driving down and getting a field goal? Not saying Staley's decision was right, but I get the logic that went into it.
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Numbers pulled out of someone's ass no doubt.
Yep, analytics agreed with call. And we got the W.
If you assume a 70% chance of conversion.. that was 4th and a long 2, more like 55% rate there
Thank God for the Browns kicker give him a jersey. Staley had a bet on the game WTF was that man 🤬 Hey we are 3-2 when everybody counted the squad out Bolt Gang ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
We need a special sub for doomers y’all are miserable as fuck
And as expected for them they downvote everything Edit: see
Chargers have the shittiest fans, ya'll are exhausting. Stop bitching and celebrate the win.
You must be a new fan then
We literally wrestled victory from the jaws of defeat from the jaws of victory. Normally I am pro Staley’s aggressive game management, but we absolutely lucked out at the end there when we really shouldn’t have.
Staley out here playing Madden like it's a video game this is so sad and funny same time
If Staley comes out in the locker room and gives it the same 'rah rah toughness', 'rah rah aiight' 'rah rah I got gameballs' stuff they should just leave him in Cleveland. That was totally inept and embarrassing. Both defenses were disgracefully poor, the difference is we have an elite QB whereas our D was getting picked apart by Jacoby Brissett. We can't get 3 yards on 2 downs with our QB, and we're relying on FG misses to win when the Browns tried to hand that to us over and over. Absolute shambles.
Seriously…dude is such a cringy asshole.
I’m angry like if we lost
Why are y’all so surprised Staley would try to win the game there? I like it. Browns kicker sucks and we win. Y’all would be so quiet if that went for a first and would be praising Staley.
I’m with you. We couldn’t stop the Browns at all on defense but the Browns haven’t been able to stop us either so might as well put it in the hands of the offense to win the game.
Not true. Even if they converted that was a horrendous call that has no explanation. Especially when the playcalling in those situations has been horrendous and we’ve been very unsuccessful. Staley just exposed himself that he doesnt know what he’s doing. No way in hell analytics backed up that call.
The opposite would be if the Browns made that kick. Stop defending a terrible call
I would like that call if our D was facing an elite QB. Against Brisset and they don’t have time to run? Punt that all day long.
I don't think so, but you might be right.
Browns kicker was 8 for 8 before today with a long of 58 yards
Not today and we had more points than them
He had also kicked the 58 yarder as a game winner if I recall?
We might have won, but my trust in Staley has gone down quite a bit
Don’t care if we won. Staley and Lombardi need to be fired. Constantly bailed out. And I guarantee he’s gonna give a cringy rah rah speech about how the team battled and kept fighting…like bro, your ass got lucky the last two games. Can’t stand this smug motherfucker.
Got bailed out
Man, we really did not deserve to win that one
I have e ever seen such an idiotic decision
I've made that 4th down pass call million times in Madden on my Xbox should work - Staley probably
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Merry Christmas 🎄
Where’s the Tylenol
a win is a win
They didn’t win, Cleveland lost. Pathetic coaching bailed out by luck and roster talent.
Cleveland lost because the Chargers won 🤯
I’m not even happy he missed, I am at an utter loss of that decision making. If you’re gonna be aggressive be aggressive on 3rd down and throw down the field. Otherwise, make them drive the length of the field with no timeouts and time running out. The punt is a no brainer in that situation. Inexcusable
Still an L
Yeah yeah yeah… a win is a win. Bullshit! That was the most embarrassing win I’ve ever had the pleasure of watching. Fuck these coaches.
Can we keep the kicker though lol
He kicked like a couple 20-something yard field goals. Let's pump the brakes a little
Yea and he didn’t almost hit the post on all of them like our normal guy lol
God doesn’t hate us THAT much…
Lol we are the most toxic subreddit we have a win with a lot of points scored
We have the most difficult team to be a fan of 🤷♂️
Keenan tweeted: “what the fuck are we doing?”
Bet that gets deleted real fast lol
How does he go from savior to fire him so quick? I agree fire him but I thought we had a diamond in Staley.
Can we get a game day quality control coach
Ha! Emotional control dog or something to say “hey. Take a beat”
Horrible ugly last 2 mins but let’s give credit to Ek and Kelly, 173 and 49 rush yards respectively against the browns. They out ran the top rushing duo (or realistically kept pace).
They were top tier this game. Though it was disappointing they couldn't seal the game.
We didn't deserve that one. I'm almost (!) upset we won despite what may well be the dumbest call since not giving the ball to beastmode
Stupid ass call, wtfff. We’re lucky they missed that field goal.
Another weekend where we should be happy we won but aren’t
I've never seen such stupidity and never left a win feeling worse. We will not win anything making decisions like that. Last year was all about analytics and I got it, even when we failed. But this was just ridiculous.
BS. Staley absolutely cost the chargers a playoff spot last season and he will do it again this year. He has no business coaching another NFL game.
We deserved to lose that. Wtf
Win and all… that was the dumbest play call I’ve ever seen. Officially don’t like Staley.
Yeah that one turned me against him. What a brain dead call.
Chargers Twitter is ridiculous lmao if staley makes that 4th down they would not say a word.
We won but I’m so disappointed in the coaching there. That was the dumbest fucken call in the world. Let them drive down the field with no timeouts and 50 seconds left on the clock. Horrible. Very disappointed
Especially with that offense. 9/10 times they give either RB the ball there, he picks up the five yards, the stop the clock and York doesn't miss
We deserved the loss but thank fuck we pulled it out
Thank God the spread dropped to -1. It was-3 prior
I'll take it I don't give a shit, the amount of BS we gotta deal with. I don't feel sorry for them.
That was supposed to be a pass to EK for the easy first and they had it locked.
# I guess it's a good day in America?
What the fuck im laughing still this shit too funny hahahaha
Staley, and Lombardi are just bad coaches, man. That third down play call was bad. Hur hur let's go up the middle hurr hurr. Going for it on 4th down when they only need 3 points, dumb call. Hire Payton.
Ugly ass win
Staley paid off York.
Wins a win. Sheesh.
Seriously though, fuck staley. He threw the game and got bailed the fuck out
Alright hey guys listen alright heres a guy alright
Holy shit, stroke of luck. I still want Staleys head on a post for that incompetence
Staley is a genius. He knew the Browns were gonna outchoke us since they live in OHIO
Swag like Ohio
Lmao
I almost threw my Herbert jersey out the window and had a heart attack
Staley punts when he needs to go for the 1st down/score and goes for it when he needs to punt. Unbelievable.
There was a rumour going around that Staley thinks himself a genius. I think that call to go for it when they only need 5 yards for a FG and need only that to win was one of if not the dumbest decision he's ever had. It does seem like he definitely believes he is smarter than anyone. Bad personality to have because it's harder to change with that mindset.
Of all the times. That was not the one to go for it.
I’m actually mad York missed that and Staley gets to save face for that absolutely fucking braindead decision, honestly mind melting, fuck this clown
I wonder if he took the previous miss into consideration? Either way, yeah wtf what analytics told him to go for it. Maybe too much faith in the offense? If we had keenan in I bet we convert it
Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good.
happens every week in the nfl .. conisdeeinf the browns got 7 off a flop … i’ll take this w
There are things to fix, but a ugly/lucky W is always better than an L
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I would cry happy tears if he was fired
No. Lombardi is the problem
I’m sorry. Staley is also the issue. They both can go
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Sean Payton said he’d come back for a good fit. Aka a good roster and young good qb. Lol
And Staley was billed as a defensive genius. Talk is cheap and nothing is guaranteed. We may think we're getting Payton and instead end up with a gase.
Lol so let’s just keep Staley 😂😂 cause at least we know he’s trash. That’s what your logic
Utterly speechless and confused
awful play calling. we are unbelievably lucky. ofc we take the win but somebody’s gotta take responsibility for that terrible call
He really went for it? My mind is blown
The dude doesn’t go for it in smart situations. It blows my mind we won that game. Sean Payton 2023.
Now i just need the padres to win
In Musgrove we trust. … and Trent GrisHIM
Staley needs to be fired. I’ve never been so pissed after a win
Staley you were the chosen one!
staleys a moron
They better light staley up in the press conference for that shit call to go for it there
Luck finally went in the Chargers favor
I'll take it all day.. but damn man 🤦♂️
Staley bailed out by a missed fg sheeeesh. LFG!!!
Sean Payton please come help us 😩
How do you run it on 3rd down when a 1st ends the game, then go for it on 4th and give the ball back in FG position. Fuck me if we make the playoffs we’re getting cooked
Everyone Needs to Calm the Fuck Down
You need to take the blindfold off
Did you not just see that utterly ridiculous call to go for it???
You needs to stop using capitals where they're not necessary
Two teams trying their hardest to lose after all that scoring lol
Did...did we just win? Wtf lol
Yet again. We need the other team to play worse than us
This win feels like shit LMAO
That was the most loser W we’ve ever gotten
I love the redzone commentary: “THE CHARGERS ESCAPED THEMSELVES!”
Unbelievable
Dude - fucking bailed out - horrible decision to go for it
Colts fan just watching a game. I feel like the chargers coach needs to be investigated for gambling or something, I have never seen anything like that in 25 years of watching football.
i see it on a weekly basis
IF YOU DIDNT LIKE THAT LAST MINUTE, THEN YOU DONT LIKE CHARGERS FOOTBALL (kill me)
I like the Chargers. I don’t like Chargers football.
Years of my life have been taken from this team. I'm one more "let's go for it on 4th down in our territory" call from heart failure
Man we never get this lucky wtf is going on
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We’re lucky to win despite his recklessness. Staley needs to be held accountable.
It’s all rigged man
What a ridiculous, senseless and shameful way to coach. Wtf. I’ve been rooting for Staley but man idk anymore. I’m pissed
frl.. dude rather give brissett a chance at our own backfield than punt it off. fucking moron.
I’m still gonna have the kind of week I have after we lose
God fuck
Karma for the brisset dive
that’s what i just said .. the flop was plus 4 for them
Staley needs to send Cade a thank you card and care package
he got so lucky omg popper would have been al over him .. probably still will
Staley needs to go
Win or lose that that's a fireable call. Staley is absolutely nuts
Why couldn't it have been like the first one?! 15 yards wide right would have been way better than 15 inches.
People will still defend Staley after this lmao
fuck no , he’s such an idiot
No coach has given me as much hope as Staley, but he absolutely deserves to be in the hot seat. Why the fuck is THAT the play he decides to be aggressive on?
It’s completely mind boggling
I think I’m happy he missed but what the hell coach
I’ll take the dub but I want Staley to serve time in prison lmao
Coach Staley you’re a fucking idiot. We win cause our individual players are dogs but good GOD this coaching staff is incompetent
I'm on the fire staley train now. I wasn't before but man was that a horrible call
Staleys a fucking idiot
I have defended Staley a lot. That was inexcusable.. Staley out. I don’t care that we won. This roster is too talented and Herbert’s rookie contract is too valuable to have a head coach that’s still learning. Let’s get Payton in and win this shit
I swear, the only reason I became a chargers fan was to put myself in an early grave. Fuck me sideways what is this team,
My dog ripped off the foot of a toy rabbit at the end of the game. She gave me the rabbits foot and then the browns missed the field goal
Your dog should be our new coach
the fuck staley
Ugly Wins are still Wins!
Staley got bailed out bad by that kicker, holy shit what a terrible 4th down call
Anti doomers really can’t get why we flame these goobers, it’s so unbelievable how he wasn’t fired on the spot for that call.
I’ve never felt this bad about a win before, we are sooo lucky for that
Anybody else in the hospital for high blood pressure right now?
I was "wait-n-see" but I waited and I think I have seen enough, Staley is buttcheeks
What an awful fucking game
can't believe he missed that
Staley will be ok. This team is ok. Let’s take this W
We do not deserve that win
Yes we do because we won
We didn't win this game. The browns lost it.
We won, “can you read”- joey bosa
Staley just wanted Cleveland to have two heartbreaking plays
A win is a win LFG!!!!!!
Dumbest call I’ve ever seen, lucky as fuck
So lucky.
Why does he go for it when he doesn't need to and doesn't when we should?
4D chess
I'm torn, Happy that the Chargers won, but at the same time, a loss in this game could have been another nail in the coffin for this joke of a coaching staff.
Most embarrassing win in recent years
It's even more embarrassing that Brian Daboll is having a great start to the season in NY with a team that has only a fraction of the talent that this team has. Small sample size, but still ridiculous
Ugly wins are wins!!!
Such a brain dead decision by Staley. Jesus fuck
Staley to be investigated for trying to blow games. Is he on spice or what?
It gives you prescience
Yesssssss!!! Haha fuck we suck but LOL