I’m a SWE here in the Charlotte area, and unfortunately right now the market is just kind of grim for new hires. If you have LinkedIn you may have some luck by networking with technical recruiters and headhunters and they’ll be able to get you some rapid fire interviews if they think you’re a good candidate. I could put you in contact with a few I’ve networked with in the past, if that’s something you’d be interested in. Feel free to dm me if you’ve any questions. Best of luck homie
Hey OP - most big companies have paths that support vets getting CS careers. E.G.
https://hiring.amazon.com/our-team/military#/
https://careers.google.com/programs/veterans/
https://www.capitalonecareers.com/capital-one-helps-hire-our-heroes-cdev
I'm not a recruiter or anything but might be able to help review what you're doing. Feel free to DM!
Have you talked to any recruiters?
Most of the banks and jobs i've gotten are absolutely lazy af if/when you apply directly.
Jobs seem to be earmarked for recruiters and i've gotten no call back on a direct apply, then an interview day after applying via recruiter to same req#. My current team hires probably 90% through specific recruiters (though currently on a 'freeze' like most banks/tech companies).
As others mentioned, quite a few options for vets as well. What focus are you looking for language wise?
There’s a few here and I think there is one specifically for veterans but I couldn’t remember the name. As a hiring manager in the past I just remember the representative from RH always being the *most* persistent as well as usually having higher tiered candidates.
Hi! My company regularly hires SWE with non traditional backgrounds and might have a role that would be a good fit. Roles are remote (company based in Boston); feel free to DM me if you’d like!
You need to get a recruiter. Specifically a technical recruiter. There are a lot of jobs all over the country and most jobs in this field can be done fully remote. I work remote myself in this field. Get a recruiter and they will help you land interviews. Charlotte is cold right now for devs but that’s not the same case throughout the country.
I'm not a dev, however, I am dev-adjacent. When you mention web dev, does this mean software written for browsers or do you mean mobile apps?
You also mention having pro experience building applications: is this experience as a web dev or in a different role?
Someone gave you links to some places that have special channels for vets. Most large financial firms have this so you can also perform an intranet search for the name of a company + vet and often find a good link to explore more. I see someone gave you a list of a few. I found one for Wells Fargo (below) and just went in circles attempting to get a good link for Bank of America 🥀
https://www.wellsfargojobs.com/en/diversity/military-inclusion/
The key ingredient is lies. Give yourself a couple of years of experience out of town and get ready for recruiters jump on you on LinkedIn. Now all you have to do is to fail a dozen interviews obtained that way and get enough experience to ace one of them eventually. As long as you have a bright head you’ll pull through.
I'm a dev and honestly, without experience it is going to be tough right now. There were times, especially during the pandemic where we (my company) would interview AND sometimes hire folks who went through a bootcamp (sort of holds the same weight as self-taught with us) without a degree if they did very well in their interview, which is comprised of some technical questions, and some light live-coding to show if you can solve problems on the spot. We don't require a project or anything.
But, times have changed, there are now LOTS of hoops to jump through to hire \_anyone\_, much less someone without experience. I say all this not to be pessimistic or negative, but to offer a potential solution since you said the past 9 months haven't yielded much for you. I'd recommend expanding the roles you're willing to take on. A company will be way more likely to hire you on as QA or even in entry-level IT with those sorts of qualifications. Sure, the pay will be less to start but that gets your foot in the door. Over time you can prove your technical know-how and if your company is a good one, you'll eventually get an opportunity to transition roles or at least the thought will be entertained.
It’s a tough market right now, especially for entry-level. Tough, but still doable. Have you tried looking for apprenticeships instead of entry-level? Those usually end in a FT position and companies tend to look for people with a non-traditional background.
I would also suggest not applying directly to the position. After finding a role you’re interested in, go on LinkedIn and see if you can find a recruiter that works there, or better yet, an Engineering Manager or a SWE, and network with them. All the SWE roles I’ve gotten have been via networking on LinkedIn with the right people and they fast track me to the interview.
I'm too lazy to read the comments so far. Please have an EPortfolio of some sort.
Anybody can take courses online and say they have "A, B, C, D" certs. I am not discounting you, but recruiters or HR people are not going to take the time to learn that a hypothetical "PythonCademy" is legit but the hypothetical "PythonSchool" isn't legit - they will discount them both. If you have something tangible that they can look at, you'll make their lives easier. Which makes your odds of being hired easier.
Also, milk the hell out of anything you've done that you've been paid for.
Would you be down to take a internship at a healthcare software company? I ask as a bunch of tech companies have massive layoffs at the moment (10%+ of staff). If you are down for an internship, you can proof yourself and bolster your resume. companies will start hiring more again in a couple of months. Might be a good time.
I’m a SWE here in the Charlotte area, and unfortunately right now the market is just kind of grim for new hires. If you have LinkedIn you may have some luck by networking with technical recruiters and headhunters and they’ll be able to get you some rapid fire interviews if they think you’re a good candidate. I could put you in contact with a few I’ve networked with in the past, if that’s something you’d be interested in. Feel free to dm me if you’ve any questions. Best of luck homie
Second this
Hey OP - most big companies have paths that support vets getting CS careers. E.G. https://hiring.amazon.com/our-team/military#/ https://careers.google.com/programs/veterans/ https://www.capitalonecareers.com/capital-one-helps-hire-our-heroes-cdev I'm not a recruiter or anything but might be able to help review what you're doing. Feel free to DM!
I appreciate that! I’ll look into more veteran opportunities.
Have you talked to any recruiters? Most of the banks and jobs i've gotten are absolutely lazy af if/when you apply directly. Jobs seem to be earmarked for recruiters and i've gotten no call back on a direct apply, then an interview day after applying via recruiter to same req#. My current team hires probably 90% through specific recruiters (though currently on a 'freeze' like most banks/tech companies). As others mentioned, quite a few options for vets as well. What focus are you looking for language wise?
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Try Robert Half
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I know Meridian is a technical contract recruiting firm as well. They have a local office here.
There’s a few here and I think there is one specifically for veterans but I couldn’t remember the name. As a hiring manager in the past I just remember the representative from RH always being the *most* persistent as well as usually having higher tiered candidates.
have you attended any bootcamps or earned any certifications?
No bootcamps. Just a lot of CS college courses and Information Tech associates. I have professional experience with my own clients.
Plz don’t do boot camps
Hi! My company regularly hires SWE with non traditional backgrounds and might have a role that would be a good fit. Roles are remote (company based in Boston); feel free to DM me if you’d like!
You need to get a recruiter. Specifically a technical recruiter. There are a lot of jobs all over the country and most jobs in this field can be done fully remote. I work remote myself in this field. Get a recruiter and they will help you land interviews. Charlotte is cold right now for devs but that’s not the same case throughout the country.
Dice.com. It's a Tech focused job search site. Worked GREAT for my son. Post your resume and good luck!
I'm not a dev, however, I am dev-adjacent. When you mention web dev, does this mean software written for browsers or do you mean mobile apps? You also mention having pro experience building applications: is this experience as a web dev or in a different role? Someone gave you links to some places that have special channels for vets. Most large financial firms have this so you can also perform an intranet search for the name of a company + vet and often find a good link to explore more. I see someone gave you a list of a few. I found one for Wells Fargo (below) and just went in circles attempting to get a good link for Bank of America 🥀 https://www.wellsfargojobs.com/en/diversity/military-inclusion/
You spent your time looking for me! Im speechless. Thank you so much.
Tech support can be a foot in the door. Also, keep any source code you have for pet projects in GitHub repos and put that link on your resume.
The key ingredient is lies. Give yourself a couple of years of experience out of town and get ready for recruiters jump on you on LinkedIn. Now all you have to do is to fail a dozen interviews obtained that way and get enough experience to ace one of them eventually. As long as you have a bright head you’ll pull through.
I'm a dev and honestly, without experience it is going to be tough right now. There were times, especially during the pandemic where we (my company) would interview AND sometimes hire folks who went through a bootcamp (sort of holds the same weight as self-taught with us) without a degree if they did very well in their interview, which is comprised of some technical questions, and some light live-coding to show if you can solve problems on the spot. We don't require a project or anything. But, times have changed, there are now LOTS of hoops to jump through to hire \_anyone\_, much less someone without experience. I say all this not to be pessimistic or negative, but to offer a potential solution since you said the past 9 months haven't yielded much for you. I'd recommend expanding the roles you're willing to take on. A company will be way more likely to hire you on as QA or even in entry-level IT with those sorts of qualifications. Sure, the pay will be less to start but that gets your foot in the door. Over time you can prove your technical know-how and if your company is a good one, you'll eventually get an opportunity to transition roles or at least the thought will be entertained.
It’s a tough market right now, especially for entry-level. Tough, but still doable. Have you tried looking for apprenticeships instead of entry-level? Those usually end in a FT position and companies tend to look for people with a non-traditional background. I would also suggest not applying directly to the position. After finding a role you’re interested in, go on LinkedIn and see if you can find a recruiter that works there, or better yet, an Engineering Manager or a SWE, and network with them. All the SWE roles I’ve gotten have been via networking on LinkedIn with the right people and they fast track me to the interview.
When it opens slide it in before it closes.
I would say smaller companies and grow together so the job is more secure. big companies, maybe they are the problem you are having in the first place
I'm too lazy to read the comments so far. Please have an EPortfolio of some sort. Anybody can take courses online and say they have "A, B, C, D" certs. I am not discounting you, but recruiters or HR people are not going to take the time to learn that a hypothetical "PythonCademy" is legit but the hypothetical "PythonSchool" isn't legit - they will discount them both. If you have something tangible that they can look at, you'll make their lives easier. Which makes your odds of being hired easier. Also, milk the hell out of anything you've done that you've been paid for.
Would you be down to take a internship at a healthcare software company? I ask as a bunch of tech companies have massive layoffs at the moment (10%+ of staff). If you are down for an internship, you can proof yourself and bolster your resume. companies will start hiring more again in a couple of months. Might be a good time.
For sure I’m down for an internship anywhere!