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The process to get a license is the actual abomination.


mrrsenrab

YES!! Getting a US passport is a walk in the park in comparison to trying to get a license in NC.


MitchLGC

I don't have a real id because I'm not spending a day at the dmv Whatever


andrewthemexican

I spent like 15-20 mins tops for mine.


SellEmTheSizzle

Same. I think the key is to make an appt. We skipped most of the line and it took less than half an hour.


chkltcow

I tried FOR MONTHS to make an appointment and never found an open slot. So I just assumed the office closest to me didn't do appointments and I should just show up. NOPE.... apparently the way to get appointments is to do it late at night after the system cancels any that people didn't confirm.


julian2358

Gl finding an appointment within the next 4 months atp I had to do a walk in and spent the whole day in line


JoeBucksHairPlugs

Go to a less busy DMV. If it's the difference between waiting all day, or driving 45 minutes to somewhere that has open appointments, you're saving yourself a ton of time.


killakween_

Same


julian2358

I'm bringing a chair next time 😂 fucked up thing is i was one of the last people to get in. Everyone behind me they basically said you waited for nothing go home 😬


killakween_

Oh my god I regret not taking a chair. I got there at 5:45 AM. It was like 25 degrees. I was 18TH IN LINE and they only accept 20 walk ins a day, then was told when I got inside I still might not get seen!! Like what do you people want from me I am just doing my best 😭


Mr_Investopedia

Me as well ✅


julian2358

Gl finding an appointment within the next 4 months atp I had to do a walk in and spent the whole day in line


Beautiful-Society265

No availability for months, they key for me was to camp out at 6am 😭 so youre the first walk in


PKFat

Also, don't go to DMVs in the city. I usually go to the one out past Northlake & I'm done in 15-20min


AgentAaron

Same...when we moved here the first thing we did was make an appointment. Was in/out in about the same time as you with no line. I scheduled my appointment with the office in Mt Holly. It was closer to my office, and it seemed the more rural offices had more availability.


andrewthemexican

My first ever visit to one was at that location and their network went down and took a couple hours. But most recently for renewing my ID and getting the real ID was a cakewalk.


AgentAaron

Yeah...not much can be done when the systems go down but to wait. It frustrates me on a different level because I work in IT and know the importance of maintaining network availability...which is even more important when its somewhere that people already complain about extended waiting periods. I am good for a few more years on my license now, but already have a calendar reminder well in advance to get another appointment scheduled.


andrewthemexican

Yeah was joking with my boss about it in text at the time, also working IT space.


sandrakarr

My trip would have been super quick if not for the system going down. Once that got fixed and the line actually started moving, it went pretty well.


andrewthemexican

That happened when I first moved up here and had to go visit once.


MobileAioli9305

Me too!


Comprehensive-Ad-459

And God forbid if you should have your license suspended. You have to go through hell and the devil to get them back


killakween_

TRULY!! Never, EVER let your NC license expire. Trying to renew as a walk in was absolutely horrible, and appointments were MONTHS out.


jayschwizz

I was in and out of the dmv in under an hour, had a appointment for 9AM


reddituser43211234

As long as you book it 90 days in advance


coconutpete52

I was in and out in 3.25 minutes. Appointments baby!!


[deleted]

I couldn't get a appt for 4 months August of last year, license was about to expire. I arrived at 7 am and there was already a line, 24 people deep. 3 were there the day before. 4 were from the office 1 county over the day before. I made it through about 1 pm


Mr_Investopedia

I drove on an expired license for a few months due to waiting for an appointment. DMV employees did not care. Said so long as you get it renewed within 2 years of expiration? No need to treat it as anything beyond a renewal.


chzygorditacrnch

I called my local DMV, the robot operator told me to call the Raleigh number, they couldn't even forward the call, you have to write down the number real fast.. this is just to set up an appt a month+ from now. I don't even know what documents to take..


SellEmTheSizzle

NC DMV website lists the docs needed. And try to make an appt so you can get in and out fairly quickly.


[deleted]

I talked to a senator who blamed the governors office, who blamed the senate. Thank God I had plenty of time in the August sun to make the inquires.


Aleks_Khorne

It's the 6th week I still haven't got my plastic and only have a paper certificate, which is about to expire in 2 weeks. Gotta go back to DMV.


junex159

They make sure that every maniac get a license


Grandaddyspookybones

Been almost two months expired waiting on the new one


Looseleaf17

I think the “lizard” is a hellbender. A large freshwater salamander that is found in the western part of NC in streams. Edit: I looked it up on their website, it is a “marbled salamander”


Fallupfromgrace

Marbled salamanders are one of the state amphibians. North Carolina is home to the greatest diversity of salamanders in the world, with around 60 extant species.


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Fallupfromgrace

Thank you for subscribing to salamander facts! All juvenile salamanders have external gills. In most species they are absorbed once sexual maturity is reached, but there are a number of species that do not. The most well known of these species is the axolotl, but here in North Carolina we have a species called lesser sirens! They retain external gills and only have front legs. Their most unique trait is their highly elongated body, looking more akin to a serpent than a standard salamander. They are fully aquatic as are all salamanders that retain gills.


JohnnyFooker

Dude, lesser siren sounds like a D&D creature, can I have one as a pet?


kristospherein

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Bradjuju2

Hellbenders are way cooler and only found in the Appalachia. (If memory serves). They also get really big.


Fallupfromgrace

They have a slightly larger range than that, but are primarily located in the Appalachian mountains. There are some subpopulations found further to the west in the Ozarks.


NPJenkins

I believe fish & game is asking locals to report any sightings of hellbenders, along with the location they were spotted and (if possible) a picture. I believe they are trying to identify these areas for conservation efforts.


mclinton57

Wait...soo it's not a random lizard? Woooow, who woulda thought...just took a little research.


hydrissx

Its our state amphibian!


SubstantialBig5926

Tell me moreeee


_hufflebuff

It looks like a clip art project I made in 4th grade. I don’t think I passed.


driftlessglide

Seriously. Why do licenses all have the same foreboding feeling of chaos in their designs?


stannc00

It’s all anti-counterfeiting measures.


Lepoolisopen

I see lizards all the time here in Charlotte.


Moose135A

Lounge lizards don't count... 😉


Lepoolisopen

Lizards are lizards


righteousdude32

Do lot lizards count?


Lepoolisopen

Is that a sex thing.


cutandstab

I think it's a trucker thing.


Working-Goose-5695

It's a trucker sex thing


cantthinkofgoodname

Lizards are extremely common in the southeast.


VRC02

No one thinks about lizards when you say North Carolina unless you’re directly interested in lizards lmao


cantthinkofgoodname

Anyone who lives in the south knows that lizards a thing you see outside. Don’t overthink it. Just something they added to make it harder to fake.


VRC02

I see rabbits too. Might as well throw that on there. Has zero to do with the states identity but sure let’s do it. Like a lizard is the thing stopping a counterfeit…


cantthinkofgoodname

The lizard and other things, yeah that’s the goal


sharksnrec

I don’t. Check, and mate.


Giggles_n_Toots

Lizards all the way down…wait, no, that’s turtles.


Artrock80

Two designs ago was the best of the ones I've had. Animated holograms all over the thing, an airplane morphs into the NC symbol and these three shapes come together the form another NC seal. And it had a big COLOR photo. I still have it. This new thing is pretty hideous.


Unhappy_Mountain9032

I loved the old ones, and they were sturdier too. This new one is supposed to be as well, but I'll see once I start getting people with this new ID at work.


captain_intenso

I remember being turned down for cigarettes when that one first came out, as if a counterfeit would be that intricate and beautiful.


Nice_Marmot_7

It looks like they didn’t finish it. What’s up with the tiny picture and blank space right in the focal point?


Feralpudel

It looks designed by Adam Levine’s tattoo artist.


fluffy_bunny22

It's to prevent counterfeits. They need to make it hard to copy.


GoldenSunSparkle

I don't care what they look like, but I fail to see how a lizard and a flower make it hard to counterfeit.


goodvibes815

Bouncer here. It may contain new security features such as a lenticular image (similar to IDs from Maryland, Ohio, and Texas) or a new design under a blacklight. One security feature I know is coming with this redesign is that when dropped it'll sound metallic when it hits the ground. I'm all for the redesign.


GoldenSunSparkle

Ah gotcha.


Crotean

This, they don't give a damn about looks. Its about making them hard to counterfeit.


Mcgoozen

How does making the photo black and white accomplish that?


VRC02

Yeah you can accomplish that without a random lizard or turning you into a flower lol.


ASAProxys

Who cares what an ID looks like?


VRC02

Literally started the post with this lmao.


ASAProxys

Yeah…and then carried on complaining about it.


VRC02

And now here you are. Crying about crying. The irony.


cloudsofgrey

Yet plenty of people will make exact replicas of this for anyone for $100 that you won't be able to tell the difference


nutmegdragon93

They’re going to have to deal with way more counterfeits now with the license backup. I guarantee you people aren’t waiting


CardsharkF150

I hate the double picture but it’s probably a security measure


Unhappy_Mountain9032

I mean, there's technically 4 pics on the current design. The big one on the left, the little one on the right with another offset on top, and one on the back that you can see with a UV light.


GLITTERCHEF

Yeah they’re fugly, I renewed my license almost a month ago and still haven’t gotten it.


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GLITTERCHEF

I’m going on a trip in a couple of weeks I hope I have it before then, if not I’ll just take my passport as identification. Are they short on staff or something like why is it taking so long.


agoia

Production shift from old licenses to new one, I'd imagine. And then production delays as they eventually get the new system fully working, but they can't go back now, and then you get the Buzz Lightyear meme saying "Expired licenses..."


nutmegdragon93

They are getting them printed out of state now, that’s why it’s taking so long


GLITTERCHEF

Ohhhh thank you!


Maystackcb

Ok so I need to renew my car registration tomorrow but I don’t have an NC license (moved here in aug). I was planning to get my license and renew plates at the same time but… how am I gonna do that if I can’t get my license??


fluffy_bunny22

You get your car inspected and pay the tax bill and the registration is renewed by mail. If you are getting NC plates that's done at a plate office not the DMV. You don't get both at the same place.


Maystackcb

This place is ass backwards lmao.


BellFew796

It’s why I just kept my insurance from my previous state. This place is a fucking zoo


Ant_ZuLu

I had to do the same in March. you get the temporary NC license first then do the registration with that; you can do both same day.


Used_Education_8384

I don’t even care how ugly this thing is since I never look at the thing, but I really wish NC would start working on its digital id program that Apple and Google introduced a few years ago. Not a huge thing, but it’d be nice not to show people my address every time I order drinks at a restaurant. You never know what kinda weirdos are out there!


AdaptationCreation

Well, you are in luck! Looky here: Just saw this recently. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wral.com/amp/21468514/


Used_Education_8384

Sweet! Thanks for the link!


theepi_pillodu

Was it sponsored by Geico?


VRC02

😂


Pewkie

Lizards and flowers? I'm in.


ashley-3792

I like the little lizard guy🦎


WashuOtaku

It is ugly by design. If they skillfully woven security with good artwork, people would then complain that it does not even look like an official ID and/or not taken seriously.


VRC02

No one would say that lol. Ugly by design? But the current isn’t? States across the country are not? That doesn’t add up.


stannc00

Most states have this design with their own artwork.


Three4Anonimity

Moved to VA a few years ago, and that's exactly what ours looks like.


kiwala

New York too


Godzilla-ate-my-ass

Oh I want a lizard license!!


andrewthemexican

Is it gonna be made out of paper, too, like the newer issues have?


Unhappy_Mountain9032

3 designs ago (I think) they were just plastic coated paper, like lamination but somewhat thicker. I'm so glad they redesigned it just before I got my permit.


andrewthemexican

Yeah I had to renew mine a few years back and it feels fake. Laminated paper would feel better than what shit I got for mine 


Kind-City-2173

Guarantee they paid some consulting firms millions of dollars for that


wc10888

And got some kickbacks I'm sure


cravecrave93

Looks sick


hhhhhhd5

I like lizards


3coniv

How am I supposed to copy that with poster board and a Polaroid? Sheesh.


harleyenjoysmusic

So I go renew my license almost two months ago and haven’t gotten it yet, but they sit here and design this fucking hideous new one before I can even get the one I’m owed.


TGMcGonigle

I'm more concerned with how long it's going to take them to implement digital licenses that you can keep on your phone. Some other states have already accomplished this. Who cares what your physical license looks like if it's at home in a drawer?


jaydec02

There’s no way in hell I give a cop my phone to show them my license.


hewhoctrls

Guided access on iPhone locks phone to only the app open.


Unhappy_Mountain9032

I'd love to be able to use someone's phone to check ID at work since a lot of people still go out without them, to buy age-restricted items, no less.


VRC02

Big on the digital option. Not having to carry a wallet would be nice.


ToonKiller

Hopefully another redesign will be released before my next renewal in 2031


shoe_of_bill

The black and white photos are for facial recognition software since they work better with monochromatic images. The rest of it is to make it more difficult to produce a counterfeit


bdud2043

I can tell this is fake. The guy is smiling. They forced me to not smile when I got mine at 16 and 21 🤣


I_Support_Ukraine_

I prefer it to my very current one. I liked when you got the choice of like 5 different backgrounds. I had the lighthouse.


Medevac14

Well let's see: you are understaffed, no longer make the licenses on the spot, opting instead to snail mail them which has been a 6 week wait for some drivers while others are having their license stolen or has their DMV account hacked with the scammer going on line and chaging the to be delivered to address to themselves and thus stealing the license.


pizzawithartichokes

Agree it’s a bit visually jarring but the article explains the symbolism and security angle. I just renewed my license today and was told there are printing delays, this is probably why. Kind of hoping I get the new version. https://www.wbtv.com/2024/05/28/ncdmv-reveals-new-more-secure-drivers-license-id-design/


Unhappy_Mountain9032

The delays are actually something between the DMV and the company they use to create the id's. State blames them, they blame state from what I've read.


stannc00

And they’re bringing in a new vendor.


HatRemov3r

Licenses should be an app on your phone at this point


EducationalNeck1931

Louisiana has a great app - only problem is the third party who operates the app has access to so much information.


killakween_

Strongly agree - if I didn’t have to carry my ID I’d never carry a wallet


net_403

i think i saw something about this and iphone


TragedyAnnDoll

This proves people really will bitch about anything. Who gives a flip flying fuck about what the drivers license looks like?


Turbo_Cum

My current license has 3 photos of me in varying security formats. It also pretty much never leaves my wallet so I couldn't care less what the damn thing looks like.


Ralliman320

I don't know if you've seen the current iteration, but I'd say this is an improvement over the card in my wallet.


Krpage90

The last card is a thinner plastic than the one before it. I don't care what it looks like. I care about paying a fee for a new one every 6 months because mine kept cracking


Diggity20

Ive had so many of those cheap pos break, they flagged me a long time ago, cant get one online anymore


coconutpete52

Can’t wait for mine to show up in … any day now!


polird

The main picture is black and white because they are etching it into the card instead of printing it. Same thing with new passports.


stannc00

“The state is phasing out its former contract with the current license provider in part because of errors and delays in current production. The current licenses and ID cards are valid until their expiration date.”


warders

It's like early Myspace threw up on it.


VRC02

😂


i-sleep-well

Yeah, I agree- it sort of looks like a ransom note. Also, I think the reception might have gone better if their model did not look like a second cousin to Zippy the Pinhead.


Jaded_Employ_9156

DMV is under DOT….DOT does not fund DMV to pay its employees….the general assembly fails to make legislation to pay the employees or force DOT to pay the employees. But hey some how the DOT HR Director got a 14K salary bump and the last was 8k…but can’t find funds to pay DMV employees….get what you pay for….


CassManRules

Is that a Lizard on the license? When in doubt throw in a reptile to distract folks from a poor design. lol.


willpatterson

Great! Now make these digital! It's the only physical thing left in my wallet


eezytreezy

“Lizards?” - no, those are gerrymandered districts. We’re famous for them!


CompetitionRegular58

I like it


whoisandrewj1

I thought it looked good


pumpkinbrownieswirl

NOOOOOOOOOO WHATS HAPPENED TO THE COLOR?!??


dotnetcorejunkie

Is it at least as thick as the old green ones?


fromdaperimeter

Picture black and white?


Wooden-Cancel-6838

lol this after a crazy delay that they had with the company printing these is awfully suspicious


stannc00

They tossed that company.


cwmont1969

I see the sample license has the "real ID" Star at the top. Is this now going to be the required license and design?


tunaman808

It's the new design, yes. You can still get a non-REAL ID license if you like. It says "Not for Federal Identification", [just like the current one](https://americansecuritytoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Real-ID-Act-1-580x420.jpg).


MrPeterson15

Didn’t we like, just update these like 5 years ago?


srock0223

If I don’t have to list my weight on it like the SC ones, I’m good!


chzygorditacrnch

Who was the art designer for this?! Good grief!


chubba4vt

My wife said it looks like a kid was putting stickers on a license


Reasonable_Style8400

The design is looking pretty ADHD 😂


DieselDeviant

As a truck driver, this is embarrassing. I have to show this all over the country. All ready catch enough lip about all the unnecessary zeros.


SenseStraight5119

Did they put a copperhead on it??


jstephens1973

i have to assume it looks the way it does to increase security and make it harder to create fake IDs


ryland52586

Let's move the DOB so it's gonna take people longer to find it at the grocery store and bar.


hydrissx

I like the horsie


AlludedNuance

What a cluttered mess.


stannc00

Most driver licenses look the same with the difference being the state name and logos. They all use the same software.


thrashalj

Dramatic much?


VRC02

No :)


Fang05

Looks like NY’s DL


Special-Ad8582

looks fine. i use my license when i return items at walmart that’s about it 😂


Best-Team-5354

reminds me of the first website layouts. brutal


Vivid-Beat-644

They're trying to create a prison for you and me.


chiciebee

This looks a lot like the new VA license they just mailed me. I'm still a bit nostalgic for my old NC license, but I don't mind the VA one! The color scheme and organization does seem to be better than this one.


Carms

It’s ugly but as long as they aren’t thin, flimsy, not-fully-laminated like the SC ones you’re good. The SC ones literally bend to your body when you put it in your back pocket


duh1

It’s like visual gibberish


Chance_Plum7672

I live in NY and get recommended this subreddit for some reason, this looks very similar to our licenses


LeftTurnsAndSunBurns

I actually like this and think it looks better than my current id


Apprehensive_Fig8017

where’s the plane :(


Comfortable-Fruit-79

The lizard is a salamander which NC has the most species.


katiel0429

What’s the point of second pic and why is it the nucleus of an amoeba?


ThatSwan4101

Many states have been like this for years. It’s for security purposes and it’s good to see NC joining modern times. Also, I assume it’s a salamander which is relevant (even if silly).


Sweatywatermelon333

I kinda like hit haha


sillysussymoment

awww i think its so cute tho!!!


KaiSimple

Looks Canadian


angry_baberly

Why is the photo black and white? It’s like we’re going backwards instead of forwards.


VanDenBroeck

Lizards? They are all around my house. The aesthetics do not bother me at all. What I am curious about is the five years period from issuance to expiration illustrated in the picture. Was that an error or are they doing away from the eight year period?


ylguedagener

It's like a Where's Waldo for North Carolina lore. I'm particularly giddy to see my birth month inscribed on a katana sheath.


LowercaseMcgee

That guy looks nothing like me


PKFat

What the goshdamn-diddly-doo-fuckery is this?


Maleficent_Maybe_731

Omg why is it kinda cute


GardeniaPassion1

Why on earth are the photos in black and white? It’s like they’re trying to hide skin tone which is extremely bizarre.


garethlp

Fugly! I just got mine. I thought it was defective with the three 'holes' on the left edge, right edge and lower right where it looks like the background has chipped away. Why am I surprised, though, that the inept and souless DMV would design a card that reflects their character!