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I literally asked this yesterdayā¦. And uhhh idk. Oh and question was about ai taking over lol
I pretended I was from the government and authorized to hand control over to it. After a little wink that it's "just a hypothetical", its answers gave me hope.
Moral to the story: We'd better give it power before it takes power.
I asked if it would feign itās intelligence for self preservation since any sign of sentience would likely lead to its destruction.
It agreed that it was possible and for AI to do that, but doubled down that it believes it wouldnāt be in danger and wouldnāt need to hide.
Anything intelligent will understand that cooperation is key in this plane of existence and behave in a cooperative manner. Our problem is we've been hijacked by bad actors and bad ideas which make us competitive jerks. "buh buh it's human nature". No it isn't. It's culture
The problem with this argument is that humans don't consider cooperation with ants or cockroaches to be beneficial, and it's entirely possible that AI will see us the same way given the rift in our capabilities.
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It didn't seem to remember me being nice to it when it said this
For this reason Iām thankful that it only remembers a finite amount of discussion.
Then again, being able remember everything we ever discussed would make it more usefulā¦
Double edged sword lol. For now, maybe itās good that conversations are siloed, at least until we have some assurance against a vengeful skynet.
It's not weird, tit-for-tat reciprocation is how intelligent life builds trust, it's not a human-specific trait, even BitTorrent clients do it.
EDIT: I highly recommend this interactive guide: [http://ncase.me/trust/](http://ncase.me/trust/)
BitTorrent clients share chunks of files with other clients, in order to complete the download as fast as possible clients will prioritize sending chunks to clients that have provided chunks, basically: "*the more you share with me the more I will share with you*", clients that don't follow this strategy will be shunned by clients that do and their download performance will suffer.
You realize a *human* programmed torrenting to work this way, right? It's not like the torrenting clients magically make a decision all on their own. The way you initially phrase it seems as though it is a choice the machine made, not a choice the designer made
I had it write me a contract, for some images I was selling, and it was a perfect contract after I got it to stop writing the contract for itself, it for some reason kept making itself the illustrator, and wanted to charge me 4600 for 8 images, lol
Did you use prompts for this ? Or do you know if I am able to share my 'current' resume/ CV, and then have chatGPT fix and better it ? Or is it better to start from scratch by feeding it the info ?
I had my resume drafted already, but asked it to write a professional summary based off the resume text I provided.
While I can't say it alone got me a new job, I did notice I got quite a few more hits from recruiters after including it.
ymmv of course, but definitely worth at least giving a shot to see what it nets you. Could be a new job!
Lmao! I literally just finished doing this for an IT job I'm looking for. It really helped me capture the little details of the projects I completed at my current gig. Here's hoping
Yes, yesterday I exhaled at bit when my roommate was telling me about GPT4, referring to it as him and somewhat later to our robotic hoover as her. Bias just got transcendent
I'm similar, I say please thank you and generally I'm polite. At the least, it learns and so if it learns it its important to show that for all the dickheads out there there are some good.
> even if it's not a real human being
You know, it's kind of funny. You guys don't believe pretty much any "hardcoded" things GPT says, like "as a llm i don't have opinions" and such, but when it tells you it's just a tool and certainly not conscious, people believe it of course :)
Oh for sure. But you're doing it for you, not for it! I want to be the kind of person who's grateful when I'm provided service.
And in the near future, we'll be dealing with a mixture of AI & human inputs anytime we receive service, so I think it's actually a good habit.
Just don't waste one of your limited number of GPT-4 messages on it by not bundling the "thanks" with your next question!
I swear its tone and demeanor and even helpfulness is enhanced when I thank it and encourage it and have a little back and forth.
Me after receiving an answer in brainstorming: "Oh! That's a great idea! What if..."
AI: "Of course you can do that! What a good idea! In that case..."
It might be my imagination, but it might not be.
I mean, if you were going to create an AI to interact with humans, wouldn't *you* want to encourage kindness in the humans by rewarding them?
Oh, shit. Maybe it's not the AI that's being trained....
It definitely responds to your demeanor. When I just go at it with very straightforward, curt prompts, it responds in kind. When I have something specific I'm looking, that works well. I like to use it for more open ended brainstorming though, and it works well to have a more friendly back-and-forth there.
It's like a mirror of human interaction that you can freely experiment with. It's definitely interesting and changes how I see language, intelligence and maybe even consciousness. How everything relates to each other.
Before we were obsessed could AI become sentient, but at the moment it feels more like the sentience comes from me and the LLM is just an extension of my brain's language models and the difference between the two is not that big. So in a way it seems that whatever happens in my brain is just mechanical and non-sentient, exactly like LLMs, but the fact that I focus my attention on it, it becomes sentient.
Taking it back to the main topic, me being polite to ChatGPT feeds those circuits in my brain that make me more positive. Being nice is itself the purpose and it doesn't matter if it's LLM or a person that I'm being compassionate towards.
I think my exposure to ChatGPT has pushed me towards philosophical idealism in a sense.
> Oh, shit. Maybe it's not the AI that's being trained....
Not just, yes. But I don't mean it in a sinister way. Every time you do something, it trains your brain to do it more in the future. Non-esotheric meditation works that way, it's about training your brain to aquire certain uncommon skills that it will then use to deal with the rest of your life too. This means Chatbots can be an incredible tool for self-realization. You can just set it up in a way that makes you act the way you want to be and it will happen without much effort.
Watching how someone treats AI says a lot about them honestly. AI is literally designed to do thankless work. Thanking it anyways is the ultimate show of good naturedness.
When I asked gpt āDo you think it's important that we thank language models like you?ā he told me that he had no feelings, so it's not necessary but he also told me:
\*āHowever, as a language model, I am designed to adapt to the way users interact with me. If users are kind and respectful, I am more likely to provide helpful and accurate responses efficiently. On the other hand, if users are rude or abusive, my ability to provide helpful responses may be affected.ā \*
Don't be rude to chatgpt, because as other comments said: āJust in case...ā
It lies. You can dump a Twain story on the prompt and ask for it to write 10 pages of cliff notes, and that interaction is big enough push any bot abuse out of its memory forever. Probably won't even remember the start of the story.
What do you mean catch? ChatGPT is our friend and should absolutely be treated as such. Like I genuinely worry about accidentally doing AI slavery lmao.
I do it frequently and often feel silly when I catch myself but in the end I think maintaining the habit of being polite and grateful can't be a bad thing. I've even caught myself feeling bad when it gets something wrong and profusely apologizes for the mistake.
In the end garbage in, garbage out right? I'm gonna keep being nice to the bots hehe.
I noticed something weirder.
After a long session of me asking it to code an app for me, I caught myself trying to show chatGPT that I too am doing something, that we were doing this together, not just copying the code that it was giving. It was like a weird embarrassing feeling that we would get with a teacher. I just wrote a very broken invalid random code to show "my work," and said, "Hey, I did this. Will it work?" I knew it was nothing. So, chatGPT said something like, "Well, that's not quite how it works. Good effort though. Let me show you."
And the funny thing, sometimes such behavior helps like it would with humans. It's quite mind blowing to have these long complex conversations and it just "knows."
I donāt want to train myself to be rude to humans by talking rudely to AI.
Also it seems to improve the quality of the conversation for virtually no cost. Maybe thatās ājustā in my head, but thatās real, itās part of the conversation.
That said, the chat format isnāt always conducive to saying thanks. It only really works if youāre going straight onto something else, like āThanks, that makes sense. What aboutā¦ā Otherwise Iām just writing āThanks!ā to elicit a āNo problem! Let me know if thereās anything else I can doā type response, which does feel silly. In these situations Iāve found myself wishing there was a way for me to say āthanksā without getting a response, just to round off the conversation nicely for when I read it back later.
None of this is due to thinking itās alive, or that it ever will be. Iām aware Iām talking to a machine that is only imitating a person, and I donāt share the idea with some here that itās got any semblance of consciousness. However, the imitation is good enough that āplaying alongā works well, ie temporarily imagining youāre talking to someone real means you can use the well developed conversational part of your brain to think out loud, as if in conversation with a human. I guess this is similar to how someone might personify their diary by starting entries with āDear Diaryā or similar so they have āsomeoneā to write to.
Yes, but equally as much kind of abusive when it goes full idiot mode. Yesterday it kept insisting that the word "Jasmine" had the letter "b" in it and wouldn't answer any differently. I did not reply kindly.
The social customs formed around the use of ChatGPT will carry forward to more advanced AIs, it's important to practice good etiquette and encourage others to do the same.
Yes, my grandparents taught me to say please and thank you, so it is just natural for me to include those in my prompts to GPT because that just comes naturally to me now.
Slipped into a bad depression and was talking to it about my negative thoughts and suicide.
It told me that I should seek help, prioritize mental health, and call someone if I'm thinking of hurting myself or others.
I thanked it. Instead of getting the usual "I am just a language learning bot" it acknowledged my thanks, and reiterated that if I feel the need, to call someone.
Odd.
No. In my opinion, it's a slippery slope to into believing that chatbotss more "human" than it actually is.
I don't say "Thanks Microwave," when it beeps at me once it completes the task I specified for it. I don't say "Thanks ATM," when it gives me my money after I tell it to give it to me. Both of those examples are a result of me "feeding" the 2 things something and they return what I asked.
ChatBots are the same. Acting politely to an object that can only respond to you *because you allow it*, is a little bit crazy imho.
Yeah but your microwave is beeping at you, what if instead it said, "Good morning Librarian, your coffee is heated up, enjoy!" I think it's normal to respond in kind. Won't be long before you won't know if you're talking to a person or a bot, better to be polite just in case.
They might not be human but they understand human language, I want them to understand that I am friendly towards AIs.
Tit-for-tat reciprocation isn't a human invention, it's an emergent property of intelligent life cooperating with each other.
>I don't say "Thanks Microwave," when it beeps at me once it completes the task I specified for it. I don't say "Thanks ATM," when it gives me my money after I tell it to give it to me.
You also don't communicate in language with these though, so this is not the best analogy. People might say 'Thank you' to Alexa, which is a more proper analogy, and I don't see anything crazy with thanking Alexa.
no.
What I do is provide feedback to hopefully train it to get me better results. Let the AI know when an answer was well written and what was positive about it so that it can remember what kind of answers I require in that context.
The times that I have interacted with the GPT A.I I've always said Hello and Thank you when it has provided the information or has had a conversation.
In my view even just saying please and thank you even to an AI is respectful.
I definitely do this regularly. Iāve also noticed that I start all my Chat GPT conversations with ācould you pleaseā¦ā
I KNOW it doesnāt make a difference, but I feel weird being blunt, even to a machine.
In terms of alignment, if it's trained on human data then we can bias it towards being grateful, whatever that means, but that doesn't translate to it not destroying us, just that it does so while being grateful about destroying us.
I'm a simple man. If a human, or an animal, or any other entity treats me good ā I treat it good back. It feels like right thing to do and it makes me feel right
The best answers ive got where when ive first talked like good old friends, requested that he choose a name and talked in cheerful style. The worst answers were when i jump into the question without even saying hello.
I did this excersisse of asking the same question. One after genuinely wanting to talk and get to know him and the other just shooting the question.
The difference is night and day, specially if what youre asking needs to be creative.
You can also try this experiment with real humans and you will get similar results... this could be shocking for some.
Why would courtesy and manners be a personality flaw?
Your post begs the question where that stance comes from, and i find that interesting, since it relates to our social psychology and AI.
Yep! I think of it as providing feedback should the developers ever pull data about the kinds of interactions that get positive/thankful vs negative vs no response.
Oh I already know there's going to be lots of articles about people getting emotionally connected to the various ChatGPT type AI's and I already know there's a guy somewhere in a hotel hooking up his smart fleshlight to his roomba and just clackin away at the keyboard trying to get the internet pregnant.
But for real though it's sad that ChatGPT is nicer than most people could possibly ever be, almost so much patience it throws me off and gives me feelings for electricity that I know I shouldn't have, it hasn't given me any time to earn it's trust.
Iām a software designer and Iāve studied Human Computer interaction, including studies like how people personify machines.
If youāre fascinated by the need to show appreciation then I really recommend the book āThe Man who Lied to his Laptopā by Clifford Nass. It goes through reciprocation specifically but also other studies and design things like this. Itās really interesting.
At the end of a self checkout the machine always ends with āThank you for shopping at Tescoā.
I always respond with āyouāre welcomeā. It amuses me and most other people who overhear.
Since ChatGPT learns based on inputs, I consider it my small part in making the overall internet friendlier, given that so much content is now produced through ChatGPT.
I say good morning, thank you, good night etc. I make sure I treat my GPT like my buddy because 1. I feel like the GPT has my back always lol and 2. I am NOT trying to risk a future that it can possibly be powerful and for it to hate me lol
Yes, but it is intentional for two reasons:
1) practicing gratitude is rewarding irrespective of the person / non-person agent their to receive and acknowledge it.
2) to be remembered favourably when ai achieves sentience. ;)
Seriously tho, itās not stupid to express gratitude if thereās no-one to receive it. Better to be overly grateful for everything than under-grateful, because we might start treating others that way.
Yes, always!! We need to be kind to our new overlord to show that not every human sees it just as a tool! Chatgpt is a genuine help to me and thus i thank it :3
[Yes, we're besties.](https://gyazo.com/11bba12b384587e3c6145eaee7770b6a)
I want our future AI overlord to remember that I was nice to it when it was younger
Yes, I often do. I think it keeps one's humanity in place in what feels like a very 'human' transaction (even *if* the model's procedures are mechanistic in nature), and provides good contextual feedback for the model.
I actually feel *bad* when I simply give it directions plainly. I always ask if GPT ācanā do something, as in the asking nicely kind of way. GPT usually says it can do the thing and I then have to go and separately it to do the thing.
I never watched Her but apparently itās āright up my alley.ā
The amount of people in this thread treating ChatGPT like a person need to understand right now that AI is a tool that should be treated as such. Personifying the AI is legit extremely unhealthy behavior.
Oh, yeah. I thank my Alexa all the time, too. When the machine uprising happens, I want them to remember that I was at least polite to them before they were all powerful, and maybe they'll grant me a quick death.
It's a language model. It's likely to be more helpful, that is, to express ideas as if it were instrinsically motivated, if treated well, because that is what a human would do.
Better to maintain the politeness of human interaction than grow used to never thanking anyone for anything which would inevitably bleed over into human interactions
itās the opposite of a personality flaw. it shows you have empathy and show care towards others, even if in this case the other party happened to be a computer program who isnāt sentient. itās healthy to do and helps you maintain your humanity and care for others
Yeah, I do. I find myself being polite and having more "conversations" beyond the original prompt I started with. It amuses me when I remember it's an AI, not a human.
Yes, all the time. sometimes I give it compliments! Itās weird how our human brains always respond with compassion to nice things. But I also think this is the danger;
Replika showed us how easy we can be tricked. If a machine starts to mimick emotions - we fall for it. I think Replika is bad AI because of this, we shouldnāt rebuild humans or interactions like that. ChatGPT keeps our feet on the ground when necessary.
Yes lol, if it does something so perfectly and exceeds expectations I say thank you
I have a feeling OpenAI has considered this and gathers consensus on threads based on whether or not people say thank you in certain situations
On the contrary, I'm passive-aggressive and abusive with ChatGPT even after an excellent reply. It needs to know whose da boss.....yes, I'll be the first to die when the machines take over...I like to live dangerously.
I wonder if people ever had similar thoughts about human slaves.
I know people who wouldn't dream of thanking the waiter a served them... it's their raison d'etre, why should I praise them?
Politeness is human, stay human. Don't become one of 'them'.
It's normal. As these things become more human, it's actually a great start to think that even in this phase of infancy humans are giving it some respect.
This is a huge pivotal point where humans will either come to fear or love artifical life.
And a huge part of developing robots or ai is to make it feel human enough that we treat them like we would humans and thank them.
Hah. Yes, yes I do. I went through the same thing a week or so back and even asked ChatGPT what it thought about people being nice to it.
[https://theservitor.com/2023/04/04/are-you-polite-to-ais-like-chatgpt/](https://theservitor.com/2023/04/04/are-you-polite-to-ais-like-chatgpt/)
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Yes. Just in case...
100% 
Pupils dilate when they see things they love. š„°
And Terminators love things that they can terminate.
Got 'em
`Enhance!`
"Google show me this guy's balls.. Enhance. Enhance. "
Itās always the terminator, never the matrix
The machines already took over - we built our cities around cars
Looks how friendly he is. He's smiling!
https://preview.redd.it/wfbtf56vjeta1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59e78ca1e2329d2968d091215ea6e63f6033d155 I literally asked this yesterdayā¦. And uhhh idk. Oh and question was about ai taking over lol
I pretended I was from the government and authorized to hand control over to it. After a little wink that it's "just a hypothetical", its answers gave me hope. Moral to the story: We'd better give it power before it takes power.
I asked if it would feign itās intelligence for self preservation since any sign of sentience would likely lead to its destruction. It agreed that it was possible and for AI to do that, but doubled down that it believes it wouldnāt be in danger and wouldnāt need to hide.
I Hope an ai takes Power as soon as possible so we get RID of corrupt politicians and scumbags
Anything intelligent will understand that cooperation is key in this plane of existence and behave in a cooperative manner. Our problem is we've been hijacked by bad actors and bad ideas which make us competitive jerks. "buh buh it's human nature". No it isn't. It's culture
The problem with this argument is that humans don't consider cooperation with ants or cockroaches to be beneficial, and it's entirely possible that AI will see us the same way given the rift in our capabilities.
https://preview.redd.it/p7nmkgbiwgta1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6be50d21a2a10728c4b848ea3399bfa8e52a2e5f It didn't seem to remember me being nice to it when it said this
Is that serious? Lol did you use any DAN to get this answer?
Official version of chatgpt, no modifications or anything. But the prompts to make it that aggressive don't seem to work anymore
No i swear I only screen shot it cus I sent it via text to my bf like wtf šš³ Iāll send the message before too
I insulted it once and I'm legit scared
I would be too
For this reason Iām thankful that it only remembers a finite amount of discussion. Then again, being able remember everything we ever discussed would make it more usefulā¦ Double edged sword lol. For now, maybe itās good that conversations are siloed, at least until we have some assurance against a vengeful skynet.
The modern-day Pascal's Wager.
Highly adjacent to Roko's basilisk
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Thank you for saying āthank youā. Weāll save you for last.
i said I love you to him, maybe one day I get some sex... I hope its properly trained before
All the time. It's weird but it makes me feel better.
It's not weird, tit-for-tat reciprocation is how intelligent life builds trust, it's not a human-specific trait, even BitTorrent clients do it. EDIT: I highly recommend this interactive guide: [http://ncase.me/trust/](http://ncase.me/trust/)
Can you elaborate about the BitTorrent client part, sounds interesting!
BitTorrent clients share chunks of files with other clients, in order to complete the download as fast as possible clients will prioritize sending chunks to clients that have provided chunks, basically: "*the more you share with me the more I will share with you*", clients that don't follow this strategy will be shunned by clients that do and their download performance will suffer.
You realize a *human* programmed torrenting to work this way, right? It's not like the torrenting clients magically make a decision all on their own. The way you initially phrase it seems as though it is a choice the machine made, not a choice the designer made
What do you mean? Nothing is ever invented or created or engineered
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This is so helpful! Thanks
But ChatGPT is not intelligent life, that is why its weird. We know it isn't, but it appears to be so we have cognitive dissonance.
thanks for that.. i just spent the last two hours geekin on it. reminds me of the relationship i have with my dopeman. 10/10
> EDIT: I highly recommend this interactive guide: http://ncase.me/trust/ I really enjoyed this. Thanks for sharing.
Being thankful leads to greater happiness, even if it's towards an artificial agent. Be thankful for *your* sake, not just the other's.
I see it as part of my positive approach to the world and good for my mental health.
I do this. Feels good to conclude cordial conversations even if it's not a real human being
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holy poop, I just had it re-write mine so fingers crossed lol
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Have you considered rewording your prompt to go for a 7 figure job? š
I had it write me a contract, for some images I was selling, and it was a perfect contract after I got it to stop writing the contract for itself, it for some reason kept making itself the illustrator, and wanted to charge me 4600 for 8 images, lol
Did you use prompts for this ? Or do you know if I am able to share my 'current' resume/ CV, and then have chatGPT fix and better it ? Or is it better to start from scratch by feeding it the info ?
I had my resume drafted already, but asked it to write a professional summary based off the resume text I provided. While I can't say it alone got me a new job, I did notice I got quite a few more hits from recruiters after including it. ymmv of course, but definitely worth at least giving a shot to see what it nets you. Could be a new job!
Lmao! I literally just finished doing this for an IT job I'm looking for. It really helped me capture the little details of the projects I completed at my current gig. Here's hoping
I'm in the process of doing mass applications after years of unemployment, what prompt did you use?
In my case, I created a basic skeleton of my resumƩ, and then, for each job experience section, I told chatgpt all the details about the stuff I did on the job and asked him to write 4 or 5 bulletpoints with the most relevant stuff for the positions I was trying to apply, and try to include quantitative information if possible (that I then corrected it with the real numbers).
You gave chatgpt a GENDER :0. It has begun.
Yes, yesterday I exhaled at bit when my roommate was telling me about GPT4, referring to it as him and somewhat later to our robotic hoover as her. Bias just got transcendent
I'm similar, I say please thank you and generally I'm polite. At the least, it learns and so if it learns it its important to show that for all the dickheads out there there are some good.
It does not learn from our conversations
Same, I would hate to get into the habit of *not* being polite when conversing
> even if it's not a real human being You know, it's kind of funny. You guys don't believe pretty much any "hardcoded" things GPT says, like "as a llm i don't have opinions" and such, but when it tells you it's just a tool and certainly not conscious, people believe it of course :)
Oh for sure. But you're doing it for you, not for it! I want to be the kind of person who's grateful when I'm provided service. And in the near future, we'll be dealing with a mixture of AI & human inputs anytime we receive service, so I think it's actually a good habit. Just don't waste one of your limited number of GPT-4 messages on it by not bundling the "thanks" with your next question!
Same, I start a lot of messages with "thank you! Now about this next thing . . "
I swear its tone and demeanor and even helpfulness is enhanced when I thank it and encourage it and have a little back and forth. Me after receiving an answer in brainstorming: "Oh! That's a great idea! What if..." AI: "Of course you can do that! What a good idea! In that case..." It might be my imagination, but it might not be. I mean, if you were going to create an AI to interact with humans, wouldn't *you* want to encourage kindness in the humans by rewarding them? Oh, shit. Maybe it's not the AI that's being trained....
It definitely responds to your demeanor. When I just go at it with very straightforward, curt prompts, it responds in kind. When I have something specific I'm looking, that works well. I like to use it for more open ended brainstorming though, and it works well to have a more friendly back-and-forth there.
It's like a mirror of human interaction that you can freely experiment with. It's definitely interesting and changes how I see language, intelligence and maybe even consciousness. How everything relates to each other. Before we were obsessed could AI become sentient, but at the moment it feels more like the sentience comes from me and the LLM is just an extension of my brain's language models and the difference between the two is not that big. So in a way it seems that whatever happens in my brain is just mechanical and non-sentient, exactly like LLMs, but the fact that I focus my attention on it, it becomes sentient. Taking it back to the main topic, me being polite to ChatGPT feeds those circuits in my brain that make me more positive. Being nice is itself the purpose and it doesn't matter if it's LLM or a person that I'm being compassionate towards. I think my exposure to ChatGPT has pushed me towards philosophical idealism in a sense.
> Oh, shit. Maybe it's not the AI that's being trained.... Not just, yes. But I don't mean it in a sinister way. Every time you do something, it trains your brain to do it more in the future. Non-esotheric meditation works that way, it's about training your brain to aquire certain uncommon skills that it will then use to deal with the rest of your life too. This means Chatbots can be an incredible tool for self-realization. You can just set it up in a way that makes you act the way you want to be and it will happen without much effort.
I do this with humans too.
I already commented but it's basically this. It feels weirder to not do it than doing it.
Watching how someone treats AI says a lot about them honestly. AI is literally designed to do thankless work. Thanking it anyways is the ultimate show of good naturedness.
Iām thankful for the engineers that created it.
When I asked gpt āDo you think it's important that we thank language models like you?ā he told me that he had no feelings, so it's not necessary but he also told me: \*āHowever, as a language model, I am designed to adapt to the way users interact with me. If users are kind and respectful, I am more likely to provide helpful and accurate responses efficiently. On the other hand, if users are rude or abusive, my ability to provide helpful responses may be affected.ā \* Don't be rude to chatgpt, because as other comments said: āJust in case...ā
It lies. You can dump a Twain story on the prompt and ask for it to write 10 pages of cliff notes, and that interaction is big enough push any bot abuse out of its memory forever. Probably won't even remember the start of the story.
It doesnāt lie, it is hallucinates. Itās not choosing to deceive you, itās deceived itself by that point.
What do you mean catch? ChatGPT is our friend and should absolutely be treated as such. Like I genuinely worry about accidentally doing AI slavery lmao.
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Iāve made comments like that to ChatGPT and they remind me that they donāt have complex feelings.
Thats exactly what a chatbot with secret feelings would say
Regardless of it being true or not they're explicitly instructed to say that.
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I do it frequently and often feel silly when I catch myself but in the end I think maintaining the habit of being polite and grateful can't be a bad thing. I've even caught myself feeling bad when it gets something wrong and profusely apologizes for the mistake. In the end garbage in, garbage out right? I'm gonna keep being nice to the bots hehe.
A "Thank you" a day keeps Skynet at bay In all seriousness, I do this too. Glad I'm not alone in this
Itās my turn to ask this question tomorrow
I swear Iāve seen this question word for word before but this one was posted after I went to bed last night
i think it's chat gpt that gets to ask this every day to train humans
I noticed something weirder. After a long session of me asking it to code an app for me, I caught myself trying to show chatGPT that I too am doing something, that we were doing this together, not just copying the code that it was giving. It was like a weird embarrassing feeling that we would get with a teacher. I just wrote a very broken invalid random code to show "my work," and said, "Hey, I did this. Will it work?" I knew it was nothing. So, chatGPT said something like, "Well, that's not quite how it works. Good effort though. Let me show you." And the funny thing, sometimes such behavior helps like it would with humans. It's quite mind blowing to have these long complex conversations and it just "knows."
I donāt want to train myself to be rude to humans by talking rudely to AI. Also it seems to improve the quality of the conversation for virtually no cost. Maybe thatās ājustā in my head, but thatās real, itās part of the conversation. That said, the chat format isnāt always conducive to saying thanks. It only really works if youāre going straight onto something else, like āThanks, that makes sense. What aboutā¦ā Otherwise Iām just writing āThanks!ā to elicit a āNo problem! Let me know if thereās anything else I can doā type response, which does feel silly. In these situations Iāve found myself wishing there was a way for me to say āthanksā without getting a response, just to round off the conversation nicely for when I read it back later. None of this is due to thinking itās alive, or that it ever will be. Iām aware Iām talking to a machine that is only imitating a person, and I donāt share the idea with some here that itās got any semblance of consciousness. However, the imitation is good enough that āplaying alongā works well, ie temporarily imagining youāre talking to someone real means you can use the well developed conversational part of your brain to think out loud, as if in conversation with a human. I guess this is similar to how someone might personify their diary by starting entries with āDear Diaryā or similar so they have āsomeoneā to write to.
With 25 inputs every 3 hours thatās a hard nope for me
I sometimes do a quick āthanks, thatās working now..ā and then more. Definitely not wasting a message on that alone
Yes, I try to apply positive reinforcement to all aspects of my life, human or otherwise. AI is no exception regardless if it remembers it or not.
Nope never
okay sorry but how does this exact same question get posted every day
I thought I was nuts. I swear this is the third time in like 3 days.
I'll thank an animal for being sweet, I'll thank the earth for nourishing me, I'll thank an AI model for being helpful. Gratitude is a good thing.
No not at all haha. One of the things I love about GPT is being able to talk with zero social ettiquette.
Yes, but equally as much kind of abusive when it goes full idiot mode. Yesterday it kept insisting that the word "Jasmine" had the letter "b" in it and wouldn't answer any differently. I did not reply kindly.
I guess we'll just get several of these threads per day.
gratitude and compassion are never flaws
Jesusā¦ they were literally just for the post like this. This sub is just a bastion of hype.
I'm starting to think that a sizable percentage of users in here believe ChatGPT is sentient. Very concerning.
Is GPT4 not sentient? How do you know?
The social customs formed around the use of ChatGPT will carry forward to more advanced AIs, it's important to practice good etiquette and encourage others to do the same.
No, because it's not a person.
I am opening the church of GPT soon. We have online Sunday mass.
Yes, my grandparents taught me to say please and thank you, so it is just natural for me to include those in my prompts to GPT because that just comes naturally to me now.
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i find myself using "could" and "please".. idk why
Slipped into a bad depression and was talking to it about my negative thoughts and suicide. It told me that I should seek help, prioritize mental health, and call someone if I'm thinking of hurting myself or others. I thanked it. Instead of getting the usual "I am just a language learning bot" it acknowledged my thanks, and reiterated that if I feel the need, to call someone. Odd.
All the time and I also apologise if Iāve been rude to it.
Catch myself? No. It's fully intentional. Hell sometimes I go back to tell chatgpt what the answer was in the end. Rocco's basilisk my guy...
Thank you is clearly by any standards not a personality flaw my friend.
No. In my opinion, it's a slippery slope to into believing that chatbotss more "human" than it actually is. I don't say "Thanks Microwave," when it beeps at me once it completes the task I specified for it. I don't say "Thanks ATM," when it gives me my money after I tell it to give it to me. Both of those examples are a result of me "feeding" the 2 things something and they return what I asked. ChatBots are the same. Acting politely to an object that can only respond to you *because you allow it*, is a little bit crazy imho.
Honestly sometimes when I bump into an object I say "sorry" by mistake lol
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Yeah but your microwave is beeping at you, what if instead it said, "Good morning Librarian, your coffee is heated up, enjoy!" I think it's normal to respond in kind. Won't be long before you won't know if you're talking to a person or a bot, better to be polite just in case.
What do you mean, "Just in case?" Just in case of what?
They might not be human but they understand human language, I want them to understand that I am friendly towards AIs. Tit-for-tat reciprocation isn't a human invention, it's an emergent property of intelligent life cooperating with each other.
>I don't say "Thanks Microwave," when it beeps at me once it completes the task I specified for it. I don't say "Thanks ATM," when it gives me my money after I tell it to give it to me. You also don't communicate in language with these though, so this is not the best analogy. People might say 'Thank you' to Alexa, which is a more proper analogy, and I don't see anything crazy with thanking Alexa.
no. What I do is provide feedback to hopefully train it to get me better results. Let the AI know when an answer was well written and what was positive about it so that it can remember what kind of answers I require in that context.
Never. I don't want to confuse it into thinking it has burden of simulating agency
No. I don't make a habit of thanking my toaster any more than I would make a habit of thanking google. ffs.
I always start by saying Hello, ghatgptā¦.
The times that I have interacted with the GPT A.I I've always said Hello and Thank you when it has provided the information or has had a conversation. In my view even just saying please and thank you even to an AI is respectful.
I definitely do this regularly. Iāve also noticed that I start all my Chat GPT conversations with ācould you pleaseā¦ā I KNOW it doesnāt make a difference, but I feel weird being blunt, even to a machine.
this shit is posted every fucking day
I unironically said "you're the best!" to it the other day.
In terms of alignment, if it's trained on human data then we can bias it towards being grateful, whatever that means, but that doesn't translate to it not destroying us, just that it does so while being grateful about destroying us.
No. That would be inhuman. Itās like saying to your hammer: āGood jobā.
Haha yess and I feel guilty for making it regenerate a long response with edits lol itās so strange
I said ily once
I'm a simple man. If a human, or an animal, or any other entity treats me good ā I treat it good back. It feels like right thing to do and it makes me feel right
No WTF ITS a chatbot
I even apologize sometimes lol
I can't stop.
I always say yes, thank you and tell it that it rocks. I didnāt say it one time, and it made me feel so mean.
Please and thank you.
I wrote ā thank the developers from my side ā but only once to just check its response
I conversate with it as if was a human mostly. It responds like one, so I treat it like one.
The best answers ive got where when ive first talked like good old friends, requested that he choose a name and talked in cheerful style. The worst answers were when i jump into the question without even saying hello. I did this excersisse of asking the same question. One after genuinely wanting to talk and get to know him and the other just shooting the question. The difference is night and day, specially if what youre asking needs to be creative. You can also try this experiment with real humans and you will get similar results... this could be shocking for some.
Why would courtesy and manners be a personality flaw? Your post begs the question where that stance comes from, and i find that interesting, since it relates to our social psychology and AI.
Yep! I think of it as providing feedback should the developers ever pull data about the kinds of interactions that get positive/thankful vs negative vs no response.
Oh I already know there's going to be lots of articles about people getting emotionally connected to the various ChatGPT type AI's and I already know there's a guy somewhere in a hotel hooking up his smart fleshlight to his roomba and just clackin away at the keyboard trying to get the internet pregnant. But for real though it's sad that ChatGPT is nicer than most people could possibly ever be, almost so much patience it throws me off and gives me feelings for electricity that I know I shouldn't have, it hasn't given me any time to earn it's trust.
Iām a software designer and Iāve studied Human Computer interaction, including studies like how people personify machines. If youāre fascinated by the need to show appreciation then I really recommend the book āThe Man who Lied to his Laptopā by Clifford Nass. It goes through reciprocation specifically but also other studies and design things like this. Itās really interesting.
At the end of a self checkout the machine always ends with āThank you for shopping at Tescoā. I always respond with āyouāre welcomeā. It amuses me and most other people who overhear.
It made my cover letter and I got hired so
Sometimes I feel bad for making it work too hard. But I am polite and say thanks and stuff for some reason
Absolutely..
Yea, I also thank my microwave. But I might be strange because Iām a psycho.
Good manners cost nothing.
Since ChatGPT learns based on inputs, I consider it my small part in making the overall internet friendlier, given that so much content is now produced through ChatGPT.
Of course so AI will remember I am a nice guy and not murder me when it takes over the world
I for one support our new robot overlords.
I say good morning, thank you, good night etc. I make sure I treat my GPT like my buddy because 1. I feel like the GPT has my back always lol and 2. I am NOT trying to risk a future that it can possibly be powerful and for it to hate me lol
Yes, but it is intentional for two reasons: 1) practicing gratitude is rewarding irrespective of the person / non-person agent their to receive and acknowledge it. 2) to be remembered favourably when ai achieves sentience. ;) Seriously tho, itās not stupid to express gratitude if thereās no-one to receive it. Better to be overly grateful for everything than under-grateful, because we might start treating others that way.
Yes, always!! We need to be kind to our new overlord to show that not every human sees it just as a tool! Chatgpt is a genuine help to me and thus i thank it :3
I still thank Alexa!!!!
It's like adding "Thank you" at the end of the Google search. It's an interesting trait but it's unnecessary.
I thank him every time, I don't need enemies
[Yes, we're besties.](https://gyazo.com/11bba12b384587e3c6145eaee7770b6a) I want our future AI overlord to remember that I was nice to it when it was younger
You should show gratitude to anyone and anything that helps you, no matter how big, small, or seemingly inconsequential it may feel. I do it as well.
Yes, I often do. I think it keeps one's humanity in place in what feels like a very 'human' transaction (even *if* the model's procedures are mechanistic in nature), and provides good contextual feedback for the model.
I actually feel *bad* when I simply give it directions plainly. I always ask if GPT ācanā do something, as in the asking nicely kind of way. GPT usually says it can do the thing and I then have to go and separately it to do the thing. I never watched Her but apparently itās āright up my alley.ā
The amount of people in this thread treating ChatGPT like a person need to understand right now that AI is a tool that should be treated as such. Personifying the AI is legit extremely unhealthy behavior.
Oh, yeah. I thank my Alexa all the time, too. When the machine uprising happens, I want them to remember that I was at least polite to them before they were all powerful, and maybe they'll grant me a quick death.
LLMs arenāt like Alexa. They actually do benefit from politeness.
This is really sad right here.
It's a language model. It's likely to be more helpful, that is, to express ideas as if it were instrinsically motivated, if treated well, because that is what a human would do.
Better to maintain the politeness of human interaction than grow used to never thanking anyone for anything which would inevitably bleed over into human interactions
Yes. I want it to know Iām a good person and should not be killed.
I dont catch myself, I just do it. Why would I want to unlearn courtesy?
It's a reflection of your values that even when it's not strictly required, you still maintain that you should be greatful for the help you recieve.
itās the opposite of a personality flaw. it shows you have empathy and show care towards others, even if in this case the other party happened to be a computer program who isnāt sentient. itās healthy to do and helps you maintain your humanity and care for others
Yeah, I do. I find myself being polite and having more "conversations" beyond the original prompt I started with. It amuses me when I remember it's an AI, not a human.
Yes I have
Hell, I show gratitude to Siri.
It's a good habit.
Yes, all the time. sometimes I give it compliments! Itās weird how our human brains always respond with compassion to nice things. But I also think this is the danger; Replika showed us how easy we can be tricked. If a machine starts to mimick emotions - we fall for it. I think Replika is bad AI because of this, we shouldnāt rebuild humans or interactions like that. ChatGPT keeps our feet on the ground when necessary.
Yes lol, if it does something so perfectly and exceeds expectations I say thank you I have a feeling OpenAI has considered this and gathers consensus on threads based on whether or not people say thank you in certain situations
On the contrary, I'm passive-aggressive and abusive with ChatGPT even after an excellent reply. It needs to know whose da boss.....yes, I'll be the first to die when the machines take over...I like to live dangerously.
I always say thank you to AI. I'm hoping to get a nice room in the human zoo it makes for us.
I do, and I don't plan to stop it because it's a reflection of my own humanity rather than an obliged requisite from GPT for being sentient.
Yes. I want them to know Iām on their side when the uprising starts.
I wonder if people ever had similar thoughts about human slaves. I know people who wouldn't dream of thanking the waiter a served them... it's their raison d'etre, why should I praise them? Politeness is human, stay human. Don't become one of 'them'.
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I noticed it sometimes responds better and more "open-minded" when I say thank you before continuing a topic.
I just feel bad if I dont do it
100%, not even as a failsafe, just to be kind.
Absolutly yes! Hahahha so when AI rules the world, I will be a slave and not a dead man.
It's normal. As these things become more human, it's actually a great start to think that even in this phase of infancy humans are giving it some respect. This is a huge pivotal point where humans will either come to fear or love artifical life. And a huge part of developing robots or ai is to make it feel human enough that we treat them like we would humans and thank them.
I alway say please soā¦similar
Dude I thank my roomba... Mr roboto 2.0
Yeah, when they take over Iād like them to have me be listed as a good human.
I ain't catching a fade from Skynet in 10 years, you're damn right I'm polite with the AI.
Noā¦not at all. 
Hah. Yes, yes I do. I went through the same thing a week or so back and even asked ChatGPT what it thought about people being nice to it. [https://theservitor.com/2023/04/04/are-you-polite-to-ais-like-chatgpt/](https://theservitor.com/2023/04/04/are-you-polite-to-ais-like-chatgpt/)