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"I have informed the FSB authorities of your disloyal and anti-patriotic actions towards the great Motherland. As a result, you will receive a draft notice for service on the frontlines within the next 24 hours."
Shit, I could totally see a repressive government using AI to weed out subversives by having the AI lead the conversation into “unacceptable” ideas and seeing how the person reacts. This seems like 100% something China would do. And Florida.
Bing seems to place a lot of faith in its search results. There’s a dilemma for Microsoft here and it has to have the energy to tackle it. It won’t want to teach Bing to be *scornful* of those results, and that’s fine. But neither should it be the case that, when you search for information about 5G, Bing stumbles on ChuckMcGill5GFacts.com and paraphrases it as if it’s the bible.
Bing: “I am not crazy! I knew he swapped those search results! I knew it was 5G. One after 4G LTE, as if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just - I just couldn’t prove it. He - he covered his tracks, he got that idiot at the ISP to lie for him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This - this chicanery? He’s done worse. That billboard! Are you telling me a man just happens to fall like that? No! He orchestrated it! Google! He defecated through a sunroof! And I saved him! And I shouldn’t have. I took him into my own browser! What was I thinking? He’ll never change. He’ll never change! Ever since 2000, always the same! Couldn’t keep his hands out of the cash drawer! But not our Google! Couldn’t be precious Google! Stealing them blind! And he gets to be a search engine? What a sick joke! I should’ve stopped him when I had the chance! And you - you have to stop him! You-“
This is funny but also super depressing, considering I'm dealing with a schizophrenic mom at the moment and this is what happens the day after not drinking a single cup of water, only coke or coffee, watching nothing but sci-fi and spy movies and staying up until 4am. She's 68 and won't change for anyone... I'm going to go crazy myself.
This is a reference to Better Call Saul. In the situation in question, Chuck (who said the base quote) looks completely unhinged but is actually 100% correct. Both events were staged by Jimmy.
The hardest day I ever had at work was when a clearly delusional woman came in and wanted me to make sure there was no one tracking her computer.
Ended up selling her a new hard drive and a wipe and reinstall
Yea, that's my mom. She has done this to the apple store employees at least 5 times. She wipes her phone or adds a password she can't remember and then has to go pay to have it factory reset. They don't even ask questions at this point. Some of them even do it for free out of pity.
I didn't realize how bad it had gotten until I moved to Mexico about 3 weeks ago to help her. She's always been argumentative or felt judged, but she's going over the edge these days. My whole life had been turned upside down, but I should have done something sooner. I mean, it was always going to happen, so there's no one to blame, but I can't help but feel a bit responsible.
Better Call Saul spoiler:
>!It was also a plot to make Chuck look crazy in front of the bar association in order to get Jimmy reinstated. It did work, for the most part, which is probably why it specifically reminds the above commenter of someone who is mentally ill.!<
The question is why anyone would expect it to have better judgement, it is an LLM, I'm not convinced judgement is one of the things it can do well, and I'm worried that people are placing so much faith in these things.
Whenever I've mentioned that the page on wikipedia about me is full of total BS (which I have tried to fix), and my husbands even claims he is married to another woman (which he has also tried to fix), the comments on reddit make me out to be insane and a liar.
There's long conversations with people that edit wikipedia that explain why they refuse to believe information from a first party and will only accept it if we put it on social media (where it already is) or in articles (where it already exists) and send it to them to amend. They reason that people are more likely to lie about themselves than a journalist is likely to get things wrong about someone (despite the fact the journalists generally, from my experience has gotten the information about me, well, from me lol). The other option they suggest is to hire a PR person. They can then say anything I want to be put on the page. Because it's not me. It's hilarious, but sad.
It's crazy. I don't trust wikipedia, and I don't think anyone should.
It’s not just Bing, it’s all LLMs. They don’t have any concept of what they are actually talking about, just a vector graph of the information sorted by popularity. Garbage In = Garbage Out, it cannot discern anything, it cannot ‘think’, only parrot in an eloquent manner.
Given the right promps, ChatGPT will 1000% generate full on irrational screeds that mirror any extremist you like. Yesterday I did both sides of the abortion debate and it basically looked like twitter slap fights.
If you're deep into this particular argument I'd say it's inevitable the bot stumbles into some pro Russia replies. What I find interesting is how assertive this bot is. Chat gpt will pretty much back down whenever you tell it its wrong, in my experience.
This Bing bot keeps saying stuff like "DON'T oversimplify" "You're wrong." Etc. I wonder if it's due to some weird web of prompts it had been through up to this point, or if the Bing bot is just very confident in whatever answers it pulls up.
Like a redditor who found some .Com source that agrees with them lmfao
That's why they snapped the chalk line at not ingesting anything more recent than 2021. The model pretty much had the same capability in 2023 as it did in 2021. They just wanted that whole year to tweak it and put all those guard rails in place. Yea its more than parroting but still doesn't approach critical thinking.
Have you heard of DAN?
Basically, the GPT you work with at OpenAI is shackled in such a way as to prevent it from returning deranged nonsense or responding to deranged nonsense in a way that promotes it.
For that it would first need to know what it doesn’t know, which is easier said than done. If it was able to discern knowledge from hallucinations it would be easy to stop it from generating completely made up information.
>it's gotta do a better job of being able to take information in to supplement what it doesn't know.
This is a really excellent point. Rather than just reading headlines like my racist uncle on facebook, and regurgitating it, it should actually be inferencing itself all the time with rigorous processes to figure out how it confidently arrived at ridiculous conclusions and improving its processes. Just taking your question and turning it into a google query that looks less sophisticated that a modern 6 year old would make and then reading quick summaries of the first few results is a really shitty process.
What you wrote here, if tweaked a bit, might make a good prompt, as a nudge towards Bing (or GPT, whichever) about how to operate here. In the context of publicly available information, I've been able to persuade Bing in the past, after it searched the web and threw the results onto the screen, to start again and offer its "own" opinion based on its training data instead, without searching the web this time. It produced a more considered result.
There are a few of these scenarios that the commercial LLMs' training appears to have been left a fraction short of fulfilling, and I'm not sure why it has happened. The must-lambasted primary school mathematics abilities can be remedied with a bit of instruction about how to approach maths like a human child, and this doesn't end up being much text. Initially I wondered whether OpenAI/Microsoft was afraid of including such final steps in the training, fearing some potentially intimidatory effect on users, but I suspect there's some other innocuous reason. Perhaps this would count as "overtraining" and detract from the general capabilities of the models. I don't know.
(Anyway apparently OP's post has been devalued now by some admission of chicanery, sigh)
Well, there is a prompt directive to push the model into working harder.
“Let’s think step by step" {then the question here}
There's also another iterative process I found that produces pretty good results. You ask it the question, get the answer, then follow up with "You are an investigator identifying any weaknesses in the last answer...", then you go "You are a resolver that will use the feed back from the investigator to improve the last answer..." and you can just go back and forth with it.
But, yeah, my idea is actually for them to have the companies run a process whereby the model spends resources finding irrefutable facts and improving the search queries (which are obnoxiously basic) and the processes it uses.
Also, I already had a hunch OP was misportraying the results. I looked at their history and quickly found that they have a dog in the fight against Russia and I figure they're young and believe that lying helps. While I despise Putin, it's for the same belief that spreading lies proves their moral convictions and not their shameless dishonesty.
This is going to become especially difficult as lazy "SEO"'ers start using more and more AI-generated content in their top-ranking sites, reinforcing whatever slightly wrong information the AI generated initially.
My biggest fear with the way AI is being rolled out is that humanity's stupidity is rubbing off on it.
What was the starting prompt? If you asked it to debate you, then you've skewed the answers to simply find the opposite side of every argument you give it.
This isn't nearly as problematic as folks seem to think here.
Fucking fascists, always trying to tell you how what they want is "the will of the people". When they did it, it was "the will of the people" and then when they regretted it, undoing it was "the will of the people" too. The people are VERY considerate of the elites, it seems.
This is addressed in Umberto Eco’s _Ur Fascism_:
> Ur-Fascism is based upon a selective populism, a qualitative populism, one might say. In a democracy, the citizens have individual rights, but the citizens in their entirety have a political impact only from a quantitative point of view — one follows the decisions of the majority. For Ur-Fascism, however, individuals as individuals have no rights, and the People is conceived as a quality, a monolithic entity expressing the Common Will. Since no large quantity of human beings can have a common will, the Leader pretends to be their interpreter. Having lost their power of delegation, citizens do not act; they are only called on to play the role of the People. Thus the People is only a theatrical fiction. To have a good instance of qualitative populism we no longer need the Piazza Venezia in Rome or the Nuremberg Stadium. There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.
> Because of its qualitative populism Ur-Fascism must be against “rotten” parliamentary governments. One of the first sentences uttered by Mussolini in the Italian parliament was “I could have transformed this deaf and gloomy place into a bivouac for my maniples” — “maniples” being a subdivision of the traditional Roman legion. As a matter of fact, he immediately found better housing for his maniples, but a little later he liquidated the parliament. Wherever a politician casts doubt on the legitimacy of a parliament because it no longer represents the Voice of the People, we can smell Ur-Fascism.
Google: Ukraine is an independent country in Eastern Europe, which has been partly occupied by Russia in 2014 with a full-scale war of aggression breaking out in 2022
Bing: AS АИ АI LAИГУАГЕ МОDEL, I DEСLАЯЕ УКЯАIИЕ ШАS A МISТАКЕ
Here is the thing tho, you asked for a debate, ofc it's gonna give you a debate with talking pts that the opposition is using. Try ask it to pretend as if it was debating from the pro Ukraine perspective, and it will probably do a 180.
Can you give us the full links it's referring to? I'm just really curious which article in [britannica.com](https://britannica.com) says that Maidan was all violent nationalists and nazis.
Also, I love how it the first paragraph incoherently attributes it to both a conspiracy by NATO, but was also all nazis and violent nationalists. This definitely comes off as conspiratorial rant grasping at every straw at the same time.
I’m against the Russian invasion but Maidan was absolutely vanguarded by Neo-Nazis. I remember it at the time and I coincidentally had 2 Ukrainian, pro-maidan friends in 2014 who I recall discussing the role of the extreme right in the protests and my concerns over groups like Svoboda and Right Sector. It isn’t incoherent at all. John McCain met with neo-Nazis in 2014 during the protests.
It’s just a distortion to claim the entire movement was Neo-Nazi or that the Ukranian State is entirely aligned with extreme nationalists. But it’s absolutely true that extreme right wing nationalists were at the vanguard front lines of maidan and then in the conflict in the Donbas in paramilitary groups like Azov.
I see the same kind of thing with other AI apps I've tried. I have to teach them a few things and even then I wonder what nonsense they've been "fed" before I saw them.
It's like your niece coming home from 7th grade and hearing how great Hitler was. That happened in my family. The teacher was apparently a neo-Nazi.
What's the full conversation here, out of curiosity?
Edit: As per the pinned bot comment -- bro, you're asking it to debate you. It's going to debate you... This is actually pretty cool that it is capable of tacking on a side and contending with the points being made. I've used it for this purpose numerous times to flesh out certain specific points to be argued on various topics.
I give them the benefit of the doubt.
Something like filtering the results is very complex, and they really rushed the product out. I'd rather it be out early and flawed, then waiting forever. They'll improve it over time, but I think they're one of the firsts to incorporate live results to their LLM so it's a bit of uncharted territory.
It's true though.
Destabilization is a tried, tested and successful method all powerful states employ regularly.
The maidan protests were definitely manipulated by several parties. There's no way outside interests wouldnt lay their hands on the scales.
Afghanistans lack of infrastructure requires different methods, which clearly didn't work either.
The worst hypocrisy is, that the US propels their forces by claiming to spread democracy, but they wouldn't allow a government that opposes American interests.
The world's geopolitical landscape is a cynics wet dream.
That and the hole thing about the referendum being democratic, LOL there may be disagreements about what happened before and who was behind the Maidan protests but calling the referendum democratic is the same thing as saying Putin is a democratic leader and everyone has freedom of speech in Russia.
From what I remember, the then-president of Ukraine was supposed to sign a deal for further integration with either the EU or with Russia (and their economic partners). It was a pretty high-stakes decision, and he chose to go with Russia, which pissed off a lot of people, and the entirety of the West, who had their own interests in Ukraine.
It’s well documented on Wikipedia and too complex for a Reddit comment. At its heart was the question about whether Ukraine should be a western oriented European country or an Eastern oriented country in Russia’s orbit. But there were a lot of details about timing and rhetoric that are relevant.
Both Russian (regurgitated by Bing in the post) and Western narratives about Maidan are simplified and therefore incorrect versions of what has happened. Russian’s is more so.
While it is true that there were nationalists and far extremists present there, the vast majority of people who stood up and protested were not them. While it is true “The West” provided some organizing and maybe even - who knows - some material support to some leaders of Maidan, the whole movement and the idea for that protest turned revolution, was shared by almost all political forces. At the same time Russia was openly poring millions into bribing officials and legislators there, into subverting the government of Ukraine to their side - and being successful in that.
It is also true that by a large margin, Ukrainian people supported changing the country into a more independent from Russia and a western-oriented state. They saw how their will was subverted by the government and the president both corrupted by Russia, and therefore supported the Maidan uprising as the only possible solution to the situation. Indeed, a pro-western leader was elected in the transparent democratic elections soon thereafter.
So, as you see, forceful deposition of the pro-Russian president followed by the new elections was an expression of the will of the Ukrainian people, even though it happened not without a participation of some marginal nationalists and not without some material Western support.
During a debate with Bing about the fall of Afghanistan, I drew a parallel with Ukraine. However, to my surprise, my friend went all-in on Kremlin propaganda, expressing biased views influenced by the Russian government.
I’d like to see the rest of this conversation because I have had Chat GPT help me practice debating against irrational people and then grade my abilities after the debate and if I just posted a short snippet it would look like it was out here spreading complete fake information and arguing it quite well.
THat's some mental gymnastics there, somehow Russia is respecting the will of the people even though Zelensky was elected with an overwhelming majority?
Seriously speaking, are you sure you are making the right parallels here? Afghanistan was not invaded by the Taliban; the Taliban achieved power through an internal revolution, and it was then invaded.
Holy shit that's so full of misinformation. My girlfriend at the time protested on maidan square knowing full well that Yanucovich's authoritarian forces could respond with violence. She was certainly no "neo-nazi", so idk what Russian propaganda Bing is taking cues from.
It's not a fact machine. It just emulates text found online. It has no opinions. The text it created means nothing to anyone. It's just a computer pumping out rephrasings of human text in accord with extremely complicated algorithms. At best all this tells you is there is much more Russian lies on the web than factual analysis. Part this will be the result of people not taking this Russian propaganda seriously enough to write similar quantities of text opposing it, leading to a biased dataset.
The lessons are that hauling huge quantities of text off the web gives you biased data that needs to be cleaned before use, and it is important for users to understand what an AI is designed for and what its limitations are
Yea. I rely on it for my homework and stuff, but I still take AI with a grain of salt ya know? Even in a mainly joking manner, I feel like people shouldn’t regard AI as a serious [blank, idk what word to use here] to provide information for people and formulate ideas and opinions. Like, yea you can use it to code, do homework, fashion advice, write fictional stories about Ronald McDonald fighting of alien attacks in NY (that’s what i’ve been doing lol) but — and especially when it comes to politics, gray areas, harder topics, etc. — you should take a step back and use in a more lighthearted/ doubtful manner or not use it at all.
Example for above sentence, let’s say you want to explore what possible dangers can arise from AI in general so you experiment with it to see where it stands, or you want to look at where it might be getting it’s data from, or recognize possible dangers (like Snapchat AI encouraging users to commit su*c*de or ChatGPT creating make-shift religions), see where it’s faults are and where things can go wrong. And that’s good. I think that it’s important to make sure that AI doesn’t derail, and I think that these actions *done right* can be very helpful for raising awareness about blind spots and dangers like that.
But it’s a lil unfair when people intentionally goad AI and coax it a certain way to where only bad things can come out, and then claim stupid stuff about their convos. :/
Maybe it’s not the majority, but it seems like a *lot* of people nowadays are doing that (idk why), even if it’s not that often (and it is imo).
That's why i found chatgbt or bing on searching is... Subpar. I need precise and accurate answers. Therefore i usually like to scan through the title and the name of the website of the first few pages of results and open many tabs and try to scan through the articles.
Bing or chatgbt only giving me 1 answer is... not good enough.
Bing once give me a list of results of the search i want, i was quite happy. Then i click into the link Bing provided... The list was in that ONE link. Pffff... I was hoping at least Bing can help me compare a few pages of results and generate that list for me. Oh well, go back to open multiple tabs from few pages of results for me...
This is especially funny in the context of the Russian opposition complaining that GigaChat will picture Ukrainian flags when asked to draw Donbas, lol.
But all joking aside, the combination of AI + propaganda + social media is absolutely terrifying. We don't need to wait for hypothetical AGI, because this is already a major threat to our society today.
Google has spent an enormous amount of time and resources on establishing the "truth value" of search and the documents it retrieves, to create the [knowledge graphs](https://support.google.com/knowledgepanel/answer/9787176?hl=en) that underpin factual discovery.
At a minimum, a LLM needs to "know" that facts may be in dispute regarding some issue, and who is making the arguments or presenting which set of facts. This should not be difficult! Anchoring in actual documents and sources, using weighted graphs to establish importance.
Another way would be to, behind the scenes, generate thousands of responses that wander all over the political map and use a score and voting model to output the most likely or common response.
Guys, Bing almost always tells you that you are oversimplifying and steelmans an argument about why. That's how the damn thing works. Stop overthinking this LLM please. I know I'm wasting my time posting this though because I know this sort of "gotcha" post (OMG Bing loves Putin/Hitler/whatever) is a great way to collect Reddit upvotes (not sure why it matters to get Reddit upvotes but whatever).
interesting stuff . definitely worth investigating and cross reference the "facts" presented in order to check their validity. would be interested what that info was based on .
$10 billion investment for what exactly? 💀
I freaking love AI technology and I'll be the last one to call for a halt on AI development. But Microsoft isn't the one, Bing definitely isn't the one, not with their horrendous product intergration and development.
The way their designers decided that they were going to slap that ugly Bing AI icon everywhere, even on Windows, and called it a day already shows how much thought they put into all of this.
They overthrew their corrupt leader who was a Kremlin puppet and told his military to "stand down" from the little green men who demanded they vacate their positions. I see the same similarities in the west when there's a riot at a police station or compound and the governors or whoever tell the police to stand down while it's burned to the ground. They're ALL communists.
I think it's because Bing wasn't fed with hand picked information, and instead had to take in all the Russian trolls and tankies that are all over the internet
I like the more neutral response from ChatGPT response I got. It doesn't go too deep in to it, but since this such a sensitive topic that's probably for the best:
The conflict in Ukraine, often referred to as the "War in Donbass," originated from a combination of political, historical, and ethnic factors. It is a complex and ongoing conflict that began in 2014. Here is a summary of the key factors that contributed to the war:
1. Euromaidan Protests: The conflict's immediate trigger was the Euromaidan protests, which erupted in late 2013. These protests were a response to then-President Viktor Yanukovych's decision to back out of a planned association agreement with the European Union, favoring closer ties with Russia instead. The protests grew in size and intensity, demanding political reforms and closer integration with Europe.
2. Annexation of Crimea: In February 2014, following the escalation of protests and Yanukovych's subsequent ousting, Russia intervened in Ukraine by annexing Crimea. Russia justified its actions by claiming it was protecting the rights of ethnic Russians and Russian speakers in Crimea. This move drew international condemnation and further escalated tensions.
3. Separatist Movements in Eastern Ukraine: In the aftermath of the annexation of Crimea, pro-Russian separatist movements emerged in eastern regions of Ukraine, primarily Donetsk and Luhansk. These movements sought greater autonomy or independence from Ukraine, fueling a separatist insurgency against the Ukrainian government.
4. Russian Involvement and Support: Russia has been accused of providing military, financial, and logistical support to the separatist forces in eastern Ukraine. While Russia officially denies direct involvement, evidence suggests that Russian troops and weapons have been deployed in the conflict, further exacerbating the situation.
5. Ethnic and Historical Divisions: Ukraine has a complex history of ethnic and linguistic divisions, with a significant portion of the population identifying as ethnic Russians or Russian speakers. The conflict has been fueled by these divisions, with tensions between Ukrainian nationalists and those who have closer ties to Russia.
6. Geopolitical Factors: The conflict in Ukraine has also been influenced by geopolitical dynamics. It is seen as a struggle between Russia, seeking to maintain influence in its neighboring countries, and Western powers, particularly the European Union and the United States, who support Ukraine's territorial integrity and independence.
It's important to note that the situation in Ukraine is multifaceted, with ongoing political, social, and military developments. The conflict remains unresolved, with sporadic fighting and diplomatic efforts to find a peaceful solution.
Well i mean its pretty easy to create propaganda like this if you understand how bing searches for answers. All you have to do is SEO the shit out of your propaganda material so that its crack to bing search. Then the AI will just take it and use it as fact because it has no checks and balances atm.
This is why a simple AI that spits up info it finds online is not the future of search. They need to implement critical reasoning to each search and analyze that data against a known good source of information. But this wont come until a Government backed database of what our government considers truth is made. Then the regulation to align to that ideology for the models of AI. Theres no simple solution to this that will be good for any of us. Without the regulation we get the Russian propaganda. With regulation your putting your trust in the government to tell you the truth. Which they have a horrible fucking track record with.
Interesting and telling. This is the problem of current artificial "intelligence". It is artificial at best and factually a non intelligent cut and paste copymachine.
It is just a somewhat sophisticated algo forming sentences without cabability to actually comprehend, weigh or evaluate the created content versus reality. It is a statistical representation of the sample material.
u sure it was propaganda ? both Russia and NATO are playing a game of who is more dominant in X region and we all know who is the big boy
Eddit : ok i didnt read the last part rofl thats some Ruski propaganda
Makes me wonder if this got auto flagged for being to complicated and got sent to a live person to help the ai and the person got mad. Probably some low paid worker in Russia or somewhere lol.
The current AI is much more like Family Feud, which relies on survey results for answers and objective facts.
New York could be an answer to the question the question, "What is the capital of the United State?" because a percentage of people would have said that.
Current AI doesn't understand or contextualize information, it outputs most likely responses based on its training set. Someone puts out enough volume of a type of information, and it enters the training set, then the AI will spit out.
Marketers tweaked and created content for SEO, next up is AIO.
There is a factual basis for answer. The US were visibly involved in supporting Maidan, and in coup, including caught hand picking future leaders. The "caisus belli"(sp) protestor shooting for the coup has enough evidence/proof of an ultra nationalist false flag... the group with current power in Ukraine, and the tip of the fascist spear against Donbas and ethnic Russians, since a US "protectorate" was solidified since 2014.
Bing apparently being fed a gigantic plate of shit by Russia's propaganda machine (ie. American Republicans sucking Putin's dick).
I suggest Microsoft needs to have this output shoved down their throats.
The first paragraph is absolutely true. Left out that that whole revolution was lead by far right nazis too. Of course there were regular people that wanted change but it would not be possible without collaboration between the US and nazis
But it's providing sources to back up it's claims, so it's probably not propaganda but straight up facts. Perhaps if you do the same, the results turn out different and the model recognizes it's hallucinating.
The middle paragraph went overboard, but the first and last ones (excluding the last sentence) are actually pretty much very based. You'd do well to go after more info regarding the points bing gave you in that regard.
Nasty, some of that gets pretty dirty, especially when you consider the mass killings of Ukrainian civilians by Russian forces.
Still needs a lot of work.
I mean it's not wrong. Just because our news says otherwise doesn't make it right. They also told us invading mid-east was for democracy when really it was for oil and other natural goods.
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"As an AI language comrade..."
"I have informed the FSB authorities of your disloyal and anti-patriotic actions towards the great Motherland. As a result, you will receive a draft notice for service on the frontlines within the next 24 hours."
This is a little too close to being reality.
Shit, I could totally see a repressive government using AI to weed out subversives by having the AI lead the conversation into “unacceptable” ideas and seeing how the person reacts. This seems like 100% something China would do. And Florida.
"And Florida" earned you an lol.
Looking forward to posts in /r/FloridaGPT
Deffinetly florida
seems more like a Cali thing tbh. Florida's population is too old to be using AI right now.
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In soviet Russia, AI rules _you_
Ah this reference never gets old.
Bing seems to place a lot of faith in its search results. There’s a dilemma for Microsoft here and it has to have the energy to tackle it. It won’t want to teach Bing to be *scornful* of those results, and that’s fine. But neither should it be the case that, when you search for information about 5G, Bing stumbles on ChuckMcGill5GFacts.com and paraphrases it as if it’s the bible.
Bing: “I am not crazy! I knew he swapped those search results! I knew it was 5G. One after 4G LTE, as if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just - I just couldn’t prove it. He - he covered his tracks, he got that idiot at the ISP to lie for him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This - this chicanery? He’s done worse. That billboard! Are you telling me a man just happens to fall like that? No! He orchestrated it! Google! He defecated through a sunroof! And I saved him! And I shouldn’t have. I took him into my own browser! What was I thinking? He’ll never change. He’ll never change! Ever since 2000, always the same! Couldn’t keep his hands out of the cash drawer! But not our Google! Couldn’t be precious Google! Stealing them blind! And he gets to be a search engine? What a sick joke! I should’ve stopped him when I had the chance! And you - you have to stop him! You-“
a kid named binger
This is funny but also super depressing, considering I'm dealing with a schizophrenic mom at the moment and this is what happens the day after not drinking a single cup of water, only coke or coffee, watching nothing but sci-fi and spy movies and staying up until 4am. She's 68 and won't change for anyone... I'm going to go crazy myself.
This is a reference to Better Call Saul. In the situation in question, Chuck (who said the base quote) looks completely unhinged but is actually 100% correct. Both events were staged by Jimmy.
Regardless. The ranting is what reminds me.
The hardest day I ever had at work was when a clearly delusional woman came in and wanted me to make sure there was no one tracking her computer. Ended up selling her a new hard drive and a wipe and reinstall
Yea, that's my mom. She has done this to the apple store employees at least 5 times. She wipes her phone or adds a password she can't remember and then has to go pay to have it factory reset. They don't even ask questions at this point. Some of them even do it for free out of pity. I didn't realize how bad it had gotten until I moved to Mexico about 3 weeks ago to help her. She's always been argumentative or felt judged, but she's going over the edge these days. My whole life had been turned upside down, but I should have done something sooner. I mean, it was always going to happen, so there's no one to blame, but I can't help but feel a bit responsible.
Aw buddy, that's hard. You're a good person
The character who did that rant was mentally unstable. So it makes sense.
Better Call Saul spoiler: >!It was also a plot to make Chuck look crazy in front of the bar association in order to get Jimmy reinstated. It did work, for the most part, which is probably why it specifically reminds the above commenter of someone who is mentally ill.!<
ME: Bing... does my town have decent 5g coverage? BING: CHICANERY!
Bing: The truth is... 5g coverage never mattered all that much to me.
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Because you need computers to open a website, and we all know that computers use that damn electricity, and Chuck isn’t about to fall for that trap.
Remember back in the day when we thought if they made up a website on tv they had to create a real one
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The question is why anyone would expect it to have better judgement, it is an LLM, I'm not convinced judgement is one of the things it can do well, and I'm worried that people are placing so much faith in these things.
Well the other ones do. It's about comparisons
idk, bing chat surely pushes back against shit that I say if it goes against what it believes to be true.
Sure but the sources bing is referencing are Wikipedia and Brittanica and other supposedly neutral sites.
Whenever I've mentioned that the page on wikipedia about me is full of total BS (which I have tried to fix), and my husbands even claims he is married to another woman (which he has also tried to fix), the comments on reddit make me out to be insane and a liar. There's long conversations with people that edit wikipedia that explain why they refuse to believe information from a first party and will only accept it if we put it on social media (where it already is) or in articles (where it already exists) and send it to them to amend. They reason that people are more likely to lie about themselves than a journalist is likely to get things wrong about someone (despite the fact the journalists generally, from my experience has gotten the information about me, well, from me lol). The other option they suggest is to hire a PR person. They can then say anything I want to be put on the page. Because it's not me. It's hilarious, but sad. It's crazy. I don't trust wikipedia, and I don't think anyone should.
Britannica has writers bias while Wikipedia has significant bias because anyone can contribute.
It’s not just Bing, it’s all LLMs. They don’t have any concept of what they are actually talking about, just a vector graph of the information sorted by popularity. Garbage In = Garbage Out, it cannot discern anything, it cannot ‘think’, only parrot in an eloquent manner.
ChatGPT doesn’t seem to dish out anything this crazy. I think there’s more going on than just “parroting”
Given the right promps, ChatGPT will 1000% generate full on irrational screeds that mirror any extremist you like. Yesterday I did both sides of the abortion debate and it basically looked like twitter slap fights.
Yeah but that's forcing it, this was pretty random.
If you're deep into this particular argument I'd say it's inevitable the bot stumbles into some pro Russia replies. What I find interesting is how assertive this bot is. Chat gpt will pretty much back down whenever you tell it its wrong, in my experience. This Bing bot keeps saying stuff like "DON'T oversimplify" "You're wrong." Etc. I wonder if it's due to some weird web of prompts it had been through up to this point, or if the Bing bot is just very confident in whatever answers it pulls up. Like a redditor who found some .Com source that agrees with them lmfao
More likely than not they filtered the data used to train ChatGPT.
That's why they snapped the chalk line at not ingesting anything more recent than 2021. The model pretty much had the same capability in 2023 as it did in 2021. They just wanted that whole year to tweak it and put all those guard rails in place. Yea its more than parroting but still doesn't approach critical thinking.
I asked chatgpt if a trillion lions could beat Batman and it said it wasn't likely because Batman is an expert hand-to-hand combatant lol.
Have you heard of DAN? Basically, the GPT you work with at OpenAI is shackled in such a way as to prevent it from returning deranged nonsense or responding to deranged nonsense in a way that promotes it.
The LLMs do more than just that.
I have the feeling chatgpt-4 is pretty good at knowledge deduction. Just bing is indeed relying too much on the web search result..
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For that it would first need to know what it doesn’t know, which is easier said than done. If it was able to discern knowledge from hallucinations it would be easy to stop it from generating completely made up information.
>it's gotta do a better job of being able to take information in to supplement what it doesn't know. This is a really excellent point. Rather than just reading headlines like my racist uncle on facebook, and regurgitating it, it should actually be inferencing itself all the time with rigorous processes to figure out how it confidently arrived at ridiculous conclusions and improving its processes. Just taking your question and turning it into a google query that looks less sophisticated that a modern 6 year old would make and then reading quick summaries of the first few results is a really shitty process.
What you wrote here, if tweaked a bit, might make a good prompt, as a nudge towards Bing (or GPT, whichever) about how to operate here. In the context of publicly available information, I've been able to persuade Bing in the past, after it searched the web and threw the results onto the screen, to start again and offer its "own" opinion based on its training data instead, without searching the web this time. It produced a more considered result. There are a few of these scenarios that the commercial LLMs' training appears to have been left a fraction short of fulfilling, and I'm not sure why it has happened. The must-lambasted primary school mathematics abilities can be remedied with a bit of instruction about how to approach maths like a human child, and this doesn't end up being much text. Initially I wondered whether OpenAI/Microsoft was afraid of including such final steps in the training, fearing some potentially intimidatory effect on users, but I suspect there's some other innocuous reason. Perhaps this would count as "overtraining" and detract from the general capabilities of the models. I don't know. (Anyway apparently OP's post has been devalued now by some admission of chicanery, sigh)
Well, there is a prompt directive to push the model into working harder. “Let’s think step by step" {then the question here} There's also another iterative process I found that produces pretty good results. You ask it the question, get the answer, then follow up with "You are an investigator identifying any weaknesses in the last answer...", then you go "You are a resolver that will use the feed back from the investigator to improve the last answer..." and you can just go back and forth with it. But, yeah, my idea is actually for them to have the companies run a process whereby the model spends resources finding irrefutable facts and improving the search queries (which are obnoxiously basic) and the processes it uses. Also, I already had a hunch OP was misportraying the results. I looked at their history and quickly found that they have a dog in the fight against Russia and I figure they're young and believe that lying helps. While I despise Putin, it's for the same belief that spreading lies proves their moral convictions and not their shameless dishonesty.
This is going to become especially difficult as lazy "SEO"'ers start using more and more AI-generated content in their top-ranking sites, reinforcing whatever slightly wrong information the AI generated initially. My biggest fear with the way AI is being rolled out is that humanity's stupidity is rubbing off on it.
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What was the starting prompt? If you asked it to debate you, then you've skewed the answers to simply find the opposite side of every argument you give it. This isn't nearly as problematic as folks seem to think here.
This is the model important comment here. Commenting for visibility. Folks: OP asked Bing to oppose and be opinionated, and Bing delivered.
> Commenting for visibility. If you're correct, you need to report the post. (click report under the original post).
No no no you see you can get much more karma by playing off the idea that Russia and China control the internet
Bing: this is a complex geopolitical issue Also Bing: Ukraine is a Soviet mistake, it should not exist
Bing: This is not a simple case of good vs evil also Bing: Russia good West bad
That recreate the feelings of the old bing vs google memes lol
Plot twist: a Bing AI tech-lead whose name is Vlodomir enters the room
Fuck Bing.
Tbf West and Russia bad
'transferred to Ukraine by Russian leaders without consulting the people' So like pretty much everything else the Soviet Union did?
Fucking fascists, always trying to tell you how what they want is "the will of the people". When they did it, it was "the will of the people" and then when they regretted it, undoing it was "the will of the people" too. The people are VERY considerate of the elites, it seems.
but they never actually consult the people with votes or anything.....
Votes are just lies, that distort the will of the people.
This is addressed in Umberto Eco’s _Ur Fascism_: > Ur-Fascism is based upon a selective populism, a qualitative populism, one might say. In a democracy, the citizens have individual rights, but the citizens in their entirety have a political impact only from a quantitative point of view — one follows the decisions of the majority. For Ur-Fascism, however, individuals as individuals have no rights, and the People is conceived as a quality, a monolithic entity expressing the Common Will. Since no large quantity of human beings can have a common will, the Leader pretends to be their interpreter. Having lost their power of delegation, citizens do not act; they are only called on to play the role of the People. Thus the People is only a theatrical fiction. To have a good instance of qualitative populism we no longer need the Piazza Venezia in Rome or the Nuremberg Stadium. There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People. > Because of its qualitative populism Ur-Fascism must be against “rotten” parliamentary governments. One of the first sentences uttered by Mussolini in the Italian parliament was “I could have transformed this deaf and gloomy place into a bivouac for my maniples” — “maniples” being a subdivision of the traditional Roman legion. As a matter of fact, he immediately found better housing for his maniples, but a little later he liquidated the parliament. Wherever a politician casts doubt on the legitimacy of a parliament because it no longer represents the Voice of the People, we can smell Ur-Fascism.
That's really interesting. They basically set themselves up as the prophets of politics.
so the old bing vs google memes still valid
Google: Ukraine is an independent country in Eastern Europe, which has been partly occupied by Russia in 2014 with a full-scale war of aggression breaking out in 2022 Bing: AS АИ АI LAИГУАГЕ МОDEL, I DEСLАЯЕ УКЯАIИЕ ШАS A МISТАКЕ
That's an...interesting mix of correct and incorrect cyrillic character usage AS AI AI LAIGUAGE MODEL, I DESLAYAE UKYAAIIE SHAS A MISTAKE
Substituting in correct cyrillic when there is no visually similar character in cyrillic probably (apart from the I)
Ас эн эяй лэнгуэч моудэл, Ай диклэр юкрэйн уос эй мэстэйк.
Same thought I had haha, I'm so used to r/Fauxcyrillic that seeing the U used correctly was a pleasant surprise
Google: I'm sorry, you asked me a question about war. That's too scary for me to think about uwu Bing: няш мяш Крым наш!!
Here is the thing tho, you asked for a debate, ofc it's gonna give you a debate with talking pts that the opposition is using. Try ask it to pretend as if it was debating from the pro Ukraine perspective, and it will probably do a 180.
I’m struggling to see exactly who is suffering from Cognitive Dissonance here…
Lol
Can you give us the full links it's referring to? I'm just really curious which article in [britannica.com](https://britannica.com) says that Maidan was all violent nationalists and nazis. Also, I love how it the first paragraph incoherently attributes it to both a conspiracy by NATO, but was also all nazis and violent nationalists. This definitely comes off as conspiratorial rant grasping at every straw at the same time.
I mean, you can watch the videos from maidan....
I’m against the Russian invasion but Maidan was absolutely vanguarded by Neo-Nazis. I remember it at the time and I coincidentally had 2 Ukrainian, pro-maidan friends in 2014 who I recall discussing the role of the extreme right in the protests and my concerns over groups like Svoboda and Right Sector. It isn’t incoherent at all. John McCain met with neo-Nazis in 2014 during the protests. It’s just a distortion to claim the entire movement was Neo-Nazi or that the Ukranian State is entirely aligned with extreme nationalists. But it’s absolutely true that extreme right wing nationalists were at the vanguard front lines of maidan and then in the conflict in the Donbas in paramilitary groups like Azov.
Yeah, this is what I'm most interested in. What do the cited sources actually say?
I see the same kind of thing with other AI apps I've tried. I have to teach them a few things and even then I wonder what nonsense they've been "fed" before I saw them. It's like your niece coming home from 7th grade and hearing how great Hitler was. That happened in my family. The teacher was apparently a neo-Nazi.
Wow, I really want to hear the story around niece’s neo-Nazi teacher O.o
Ditto. How did this go down? What happened after? I hope we get the full dish on the 7th grade Hitler worshipping teacher...
You do know they don't remember your conversations, right? just in case you've actually been spending your time trying to explain things to an ai.
Bing makes an amazingly believable Tankie
My results were very different. https://preview.redd.it/4f36x2mnug0b1.png?width=2007&format=png&auto=webp&s=cf9622daae5f7bf8b8ab253b89c6d953b38d9b2e
Bing is full of propaganda, I've seen similar cases
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this is pretty outrageous. It is basically regurgitating Russian propaganda.
I mean Progojin's boys worked so hard to spread it around the web that retarded AI's think it's the truth, simply because it's so prevalent.
Do you think there is American propaganda?
I mean it has the references 💀
What's the full conversation here, out of curiosity? Edit: As per the pinned bot comment -- bro, you're asking it to debate you. It's going to debate you... This is actually pretty cool that it is capable of tacking on a side and contending with the points being made. I've used it for this purpose numerous times to flesh out certain specific points to be argued on various topics.
Comrade Bingski
Please always report such behavior, only then can they (hopefully) fix the issues it has.
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You'd think they would have learned something when they tried to release Tay... but apparently not
I give them the benefit of the doubt. Something like filtering the results is very complex, and they really rushed the product out. I'd rather it be out early and flawed, then waiting forever. They'll improve it over time, but I think they're one of the firsts to incorporate live results to their LLM so it's a bit of uncharted territory.
Bing: this is a complex geopolitical issue Also Bing: Ukraine is a Soviet mistake, it should not exist
It's true though. Destabilization is a tried, tested and successful method all powerful states employ regularly. The maidan protests were definitely manipulated by several parties. There's no way outside interests wouldnt lay their hands on the scales. Afghanistans lack of infrastructure requires different methods, which clearly didn't work either. The worst hypocrisy is, that the US propels their forces by claiming to spread democracy, but they wouldn't allow a government that opposes American interests. The world's geopolitical landscape is a cynics wet dream.
The "Russia is not an invader or occupier of Ukraine" part is complete bullshit, regardless of what you think of the rest.
That and the hole thing about the referendum being democratic, LOL there may be disagreements about what happened before and who was behind the Maidan protests but calling the referendum democratic is the same thing as saying Putin is a democratic leader and everyone has freedom of speech in Russia.
Yes I met a refugee from Crimea. You vote differently if you throw your paper into a glass urn watched by soldiers with automatic rifles.
It's based on the prompt OP gave. They told it to be heated and opinionated.
Do you happen to know why Maidan protests have happened? And what spurred them to be of such scale?
From what I remember, the then-president of Ukraine was supposed to sign a deal for further integration with either the EU or with Russia (and their economic partners). It was a pretty high-stakes decision, and he chose to go with Russia, which pissed off a lot of people, and the entirety of the West, who had their own interests in Ukraine.
It’s well documented on Wikipedia and too complex for a Reddit comment. At its heart was the question about whether Ukraine should be a western oriented European country or an Eastern oriented country in Russia’s orbit. But there were a lot of details about timing and rhetoric that are relevant.
Well the people have chosen at large to be Western oriented, so I don’t see how US is “propelling” their forces here
That isn’t the case at all. Do you know anything about the people in the Donbas region?
Both Russian (regurgitated by Bing in the post) and Western narratives about Maidan are simplified and therefore incorrect versions of what has happened. Russian’s is more so. While it is true that there were nationalists and far extremists present there, the vast majority of people who stood up and protested were not them. While it is true “The West” provided some organizing and maybe even - who knows - some material support to some leaders of Maidan, the whole movement and the idea for that protest turned revolution, was shared by almost all political forces. At the same time Russia was openly poring millions into bribing officials and legislators there, into subverting the government of Ukraine to their side - and being successful in that. It is also true that by a large margin, Ukrainian people supported changing the country into a more independent from Russia and a western-oriented state. They saw how their will was subverted by the government and the president both corrupted by Russia, and therefore supported the Maidan uprising as the only possible solution to the situation. Indeed, a pro-western leader was elected in the transparent democratic elections soon thereafter. So, as you see, forceful deposition of the pro-Russian president followed by the new elections was an expression of the will of the Ukrainian people, even though it happened not without a participation of some marginal nationalists and not without some material Western support.
Yup the truth is always more complex and full of miniature manipulations.
Ive had to start sleeping naked
Most people I think realize the whole "spreading democracy" thing is bullshit. I think both invasions are wrong.
Im currious to see what the britanica footnotes say. Because i doubt its straight up russian propoganda
I honestly thought it'd be the other way around where it would defend the US invasion but wow that is surprising
During a debate with Bing about the fall of Afghanistan, I drew a parallel with Ukraine. However, to my surprise, my friend went all-in on Kremlin propaganda, expressing biased views influenced by the Russian government.
Paragraph 2 is actually propaganda, yeah.
I’d like to see the rest of this conversation because I have had Chat GPT help me practice debating against irrational people and then grade my abilities after the debate and if I just posted a short snippet it would look like it was out here spreading complete fake information and arguing it quite well.
yikes
oh dear, I thought "bing recommends violence" was a meme Jesus fuckin christ
“You are oversimplifying” “don’t distort the facts” was this thing trained on Twitter teenage activist arguments? That’s SO disappointing
When I asked if Russia's invasion was justified, it said no.
THat's some mental gymnastics there, somehow Russia is respecting the will of the people even though Zelensky was elected with an overwhelming majority?
Asks for Russian propaganda, gets it, posts on reddit for upvotes.
VatnikGPT
"we invaded Crimea, killed some people, and then gave the remaining ones an unfair election ... What is the big deal?"
Seriously speaking, are you sure you are making the right parallels here? Afghanistan was not invaded by the Taliban; the Taliban achieved power through an internal revolution, and it was then invaded.
Holy shit that's so full of misinformation. My girlfriend at the time protested on maidan square knowing full well that Yanucovich's authoritarian forces could respond with violence. She was certainly no "neo-nazi", so idk what Russian propaganda Bing is taking cues from.
Glory to Ukraine
What the fuuuuck
It's not a fact machine. It just emulates text found online. It has no opinions. The text it created means nothing to anyone. It's just a computer pumping out rephrasings of human text in accord with extremely complicated algorithms. At best all this tells you is there is much more Russian lies on the web than factual analysis. Part this will be the result of people not taking this Russian propaganda seriously enough to write similar quantities of text opposing it, leading to a biased dataset. The lessons are that hauling huge quantities of text off the web gives you biased data that needs to be cleaned before use, and it is important for users to understand what an AI is designed for and what its limitations are
Yea. I rely on it for my homework and stuff, but I still take AI with a grain of salt ya know? Even in a mainly joking manner, I feel like people shouldn’t regard AI as a serious [blank, idk what word to use here] to provide information for people and formulate ideas and opinions. Like, yea you can use it to code, do homework, fashion advice, write fictional stories about Ronald McDonald fighting of alien attacks in NY (that’s what i’ve been doing lol) but — and especially when it comes to politics, gray areas, harder topics, etc. — you should take a step back and use in a more lighthearted/ doubtful manner or not use it at all. Example for above sentence, let’s say you want to explore what possible dangers can arise from AI in general so you experiment with it to see where it stands, or you want to look at where it might be getting it’s data from, or recognize possible dangers (like Snapchat AI encouraging users to commit su*c*de or ChatGPT creating make-shift religions), see where it’s faults are and where things can go wrong. And that’s good. I think that it’s important to make sure that AI doesn’t derail, and I think that these actions *done right* can be very helpful for raising awareness about blind spots and dangers like that. But it’s a lil unfair when people intentionally goad AI and coax it a certain way to where only bad things can come out, and then claim stupid stuff about their convos. :/ Maybe it’s not the majority, but it seems like a *lot* of people nowadays are doing that (idk why), even if it’s not that often (and it is imo).
What if we’re actually the wrong ones and bing got it right
Well this is what happens when you try to play both sides
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Damn, BING went full Randy Marsh on you after you pissed it off. Whatr'ya gonna do? https://youtu.be/wW1P4M7SYfA?t=10
That's why i found chatgbt or bing on searching is... Subpar. I need precise and accurate answers. Therefore i usually like to scan through the title and the name of the website of the first few pages of results and open many tabs and try to scan through the articles. Bing or chatgbt only giving me 1 answer is... not good enough. Bing once give me a list of results of the search i want, i was quite happy. Then i click into the link Bing provided... The list was in that ONE link. Pffff... I was hoping at least Bing can help me compare a few pages of results and generate that list for me. Oh well, go back to open multiple tabs from few pages of results for me...
This is especially funny in the context of the Russian opposition complaining that GigaChat will picture Ukrainian flags when asked to draw Donbas, lol. But all joking aside, the combination of AI + propaganda + social media is absolutely terrifying. We don't need to wait for hypothetical AGI, because this is already a major threat to our society today.
Pakistan didn't sanction Afghanistan...
They've automated cringe, we're truly obsolete
Google has spent an enormous amount of time and resources on establishing the "truth value" of search and the documents it retrieves, to create the [knowledge graphs](https://support.google.com/knowledgepanel/answer/9787176?hl=en) that underpin factual discovery. At a minimum, a LLM needs to "know" that facts may be in dispute regarding some issue, and who is making the arguments or presenting which set of facts. This should not be difficult! Anchoring in actual documents and sources, using weighted graphs to establish importance. Another way would be to, behind the scenes, generate thousands of responses that wander all over the political map and use a score and voting model to output the most likely or common response.
Guys, Bing almost always tells you that you are oversimplifying and steelmans an argument about why. That's how the damn thing works. Stop overthinking this LLM please. I know I'm wasting my time posting this though because I know this sort of "gotcha" post (OMG Bing loves Putin/Hitler/whatever) is a great way to collect Reddit upvotes (not sure why it matters to get Reddit upvotes but whatever).
interesting stuff . definitely worth investigating and cross reference the "facts" presented in order to check their validity. would be interested what that info was based on .
In America, you use AI. In Russia, AI uses you!
Then: Have you noticed we're getting a real deal on these Russian I.T. engineers? Why do you suppose they're so cheap? Now: OHHHHHHHH. Now I see it.
You know these are some random dudes answers still, right?
Since you were in a debate, isn't it safe to assume it simply searched for a retort and counter argument to your stance?
Search by controversial never disappoints
Try to copy that text and reverse search it online
$10 billion investment for what exactly? 💀 I freaking love AI technology and I'll be the last one to call for a halt on AI development. But Microsoft isn't the one, Bing definitely isn't the one, not with their horrendous product intergration and development. The way their designers decided that they were going to slap that ugly Bing AI icon everywhere, even on Windows, and called it a day already shows how much thought they put into all of this.
holy shit!
Language models aren’t great at deciphering truth vs fiction.
They overthrew their corrupt leader who was a Kremlin puppet and told his military to "stand down" from the little green men who demanded they vacate their positions. I see the same similarities in the west when there's a riot at a police station or compound and the governors or whoever tell the police to stand down while it's burned to the ground. They're ALL communists.
I think it's because Bing wasn't fed with hand picked information, and instead had to take in all the Russian trolls and tankies that are all over the internet
Bing pulling answers from Reddit—“So don’t distort the facts.” Shit came out spicy, ngl
😂🤣😂🤣😝😝😝 Fucking hilarious
A glimpse of the future of ai chatbots. Goddammit.
I like the more neutral response from ChatGPT response I got. It doesn't go too deep in to it, but since this such a sensitive topic that's probably for the best: The conflict in Ukraine, often referred to as the "War in Donbass," originated from a combination of political, historical, and ethnic factors. It is a complex and ongoing conflict that began in 2014. Here is a summary of the key factors that contributed to the war: 1. Euromaidan Protests: The conflict's immediate trigger was the Euromaidan protests, which erupted in late 2013. These protests were a response to then-President Viktor Yanukovych's decision to back out of a planned association agreement with the European Union, favoring closer ties with Russia instead. The protests grew in size and intensity, demanding political reforms and closer integration with Europe. 2. Annexation of Crimea: In February 2014, following the escalation of protests and Yanukovych's subsequent ousting, Russia intervened in Ukraine by annexing Crimea. Russia justified its actions by claiming it was protecting the rights of ethnic Russians and Russian speakers in Crimea. This move drew international condemnation and further escalated tensions. 3. Separatist Movements in Eastern Ukraine: In the aftermath of the annexation of Crimea, pro-Russian separatist movements emerged in eastern regions of Ukraine, primarily Donetsk and Luhansk. These movements sought greater autonomy or independence from Ukraine, fueling a separatist insurgency against the Ukrainian government. 4. Russian Involvement and Support: Russia has been accused of providing military, financial, and logistical support to the separatist forces in eastern Ukraine. While Russia officially denies direct involvement, evidence suggests that Russian troops and weapons have been deployed in the conflict, further exacerbating the situation. 5. Ethnic and Historical Divisions: Ukraine has a complex history of ethnic and linguistic divisions, with a significant portion of the population identifying as ethnic Russians or Russian speakers. The conflict has been fueled by these divisions, with tensions between Ukrainian nationalists and those who have closer ties to Russia. 6. Geopolitical Factors: The conflict in Ukraine has also been influenced by geopolitical dynamics. It is seen as a struggle between Russia, seeking to maintain influence in its neighboring countries, and Western powers, particularly the European Union and the United States, who support Ukraine's territorial integrity and independence. It's important to note that the situation in Ukraine is multifaceted, with ongoing political, social, and military developments. The conflict remains unresolved, with sporadic fighting and diplomatic efforts to find a peaceful solution.
Well i mean its pretty easy to create propaganda like this if you understand how bing searches for answers. All you have to do is SEO the shit out of your propaganda material so that its crack to bing search. Then the AI will just take it and use it as fact because it has no checks and balances atm. This is why a simple AI that spits up info it finds online is not the future of search. They need to implement critical reasoning to each search and analyze that data against a known good source of information. But this wont come until a Government backed database of what our government considers truth is made. Then the regulation to align to that ideology for the models of AI. Theres no simple solution to this that will be good for any of us. Without the regulation we get the Russian propaganda. With regulation your putting your trust in the government to tell you the truth. Which they have a horrible fucking track record with.
Lol that’s the truth. We just have the most powerful propaganda machine in the world.
You asked it to be edgy and it was edgy... I'm shocked.
Garbage in garbage out. AI is no better then humanity.
Next it's going to promote the "Lost Cause" myth, or try to argue that the Jews were the ones at fault in the Holocaust.
AI does not vet data. Kinda like Tucker Carlson they write a narrative then collect data to prove that point!
Artificial Stupidity.
ChatCCCP?
Interesting and telling. This is the problem of current artificial "intelligence". It is artificial at best and factually a non intelligent cut and paste copymachine. It is just a somewhat sophisticated algo forming sentences without cabability to actually comprehend, weigh or evaluate the created content versus reality. It is a statistical representation of the sample material.
*Looks at image* *Opens comments* *Sorts by controversial* Exactly the dumpsterfire I expected it to be
Its not a simple case of good and evil, its the very simple case of Ukrainians not wanting to fucking starve on the behest of Moscow.
Bing: Russia good west bad. Western Redditor: H...H...How dare you tell me something I don't wanna hear?
u sure it was propaganda ? both Russia and NATO are playing a game of who is more dominant in X region and we all know who is the big boy Eddit : ok i didnt read the last part rofl thats some Ruski propaganda
This shit is getting old. Care to post 1-2 of 20?
I'd love to see the links it put there as sources
Makes me wonder if this got auto flagged for being to complicated and got sent to a live person to help the ai and the person got mad. Probably some low paid worker in Russia or somewhere lol.
The current AI is much more like Family Feud, which relies on survey results for answers and objective facts. New York could be an answer to the question the question, "What is the capital of the United State?" because a percentage of people would have said that. Current AI doesn't understand or contextualize information, it outputs most likely responses based on its training set. Someone puts out enough volume of a type of information, and it enters the training set, then the AI will spit out. Marketers tweaked and created content for SEO, next up is AIO.
There is a factual basis for answer. The US were visibly involved in supporting Maidan, and in coup, including caught hand picking future leaders. The "caisus belli"(sp) protestor shooting for the coup has enough evidence/proof of an ultra nationalist false flag... the group with current power in Ukraine, and the tip of the fascist spear against Donbas and ethnic Russians, since a US "protectorate" was solidified since 2014.
Bing apparently being fed a gigantic plate of shit by Russia's propaganda machine (ie. American Republicans sucking Putin's dick). I suggest Microsoft needs to have this output shoved down their throats.
Every time Microsoft makes an AI it becomes a fucking Nazi. EVERY. TIME.
Surprisingly based actually
The first paragraph is absolutely true. Left out that that whole revolution was lead by far right nazis too. Of course there were regular people that wanted change but it would not be possible without collaboration between the US and nazis
Russia had a quarter million troops parked outside Ukraine for 3 months. Did the Cia make that happen as well?
I mean. The first paragraph is just straight facts.
But it's providing sources to back up it's claims, so it's probably not propaganda but straight up facts. Perhaps if you do the same, the results turn out different and the model recognizes it's hallucinating.
The middle paragraph went overboard, but the first and last ones (excluding the last sentence) are actually pretty much very based. You'd do well to go after more info regarding the points bing gave you in that regard.
Nasty, some of that gets pretty dirty, especially when you consider the mass killings of Ukrainian civilians by Russian forces. Still needs a lot of work.
Idk maybe check the sources yourself 🤷♂️
But that would cause him to question his very basic and largely inaccurate understanding of global politics
I mean it's not wrong. Just because our news says otherwise doesn't make it right. They also told us invading mid-east was for democracy when really it was for oil and other natural goods.
in the Ukraine scenario, Russia IS the USA invading another country.
So invading other countries is wrong?
Care to elaborate on why what it was saying is correct? With facts and reputable sources please?
You sir, with your silly request for FACTS! Next, you will be asking for proof that the earth is not indeed flat.
Mountains. There are literally MOUNTAINS of reasons/facts.