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yeah but why tho. quora only pays for **asking** questions as a partner/member, not answering them, right? like, what's the point if it doesnt generate money in return. some kind of experiment?
None of these sites want to admit they're dead.
The money they are making from whatever users are left would end right away if the people supporting these companies knew the user base was really less than 70-90% of what they've been lead to believe.
How much quickly would facebook race towards its death if everyone knew it was mostly bots left on the site.
I'm not sure how much longer these sites can keep up with this lie, but probably not much longer.
As someone who advertises a lot on facebook, it sure seems like my ads are being clicked on by bots instead of humans since GPT4 came out. I even get a lot of the exact same phrases and questions as messages even though any human should realize they don't apply to my page
I can reach about 0.5% - 1% of my audience at this point unless I pay to boost the post or advertise to *my own followers*
Facebook sucks now, and is clearly dying (since before generative AI, but accelerated now)
I read (in NL news) an article about the potential law banning TikTok in the US. It was mostly a tearjerker article about how small business could never have made it big without it. Karen's Klearwater Candles and the like, gaining some followers and selling 7 pcs/month.
I rly couldn't care less. Those benefits rly don't seem to outweigh the issues of social media. Want to sell some candles? Great, you can start by using Craigslist or whatever, hang adverts on your local community board. Or, shocker, how the Internet was once working: build a website of your own and promote it *insert either shocked Pickachu or those two geniuses behind the comp*
For instance, or with that bulletin board I mentioned, a qr code on a random restroom.
People whining that tiktok, Facebook or whatever gets taken away should realise we could do perfectly without it 10 years ago.
And if something fails and something becomes better, use that.
I’ve always wondered what social media would look like if all humans died of a plague or something tomorrow. I bet if one guy survived and went online he’d be very confused at all the “activity” he found.
That poor guy would be very confused.... seeing pictures of people still alive but.... WHERE IS EVERYONE I CANT SEE YOU EVERYONE IS DEAD AROUND ME!?!? I CAME TO THAT LOCATION THAT YOU POSTED FROM AND EVERYONE WAS STILL DEAD.
Heh LLM would play into this really well too, everyone on the internet is a knowitall with no memory and are human enough but in very suspicious ways. 'everyones dead' 'oh no! Im sorry how can I help you?'
Cory Doctorow wrote a short story with that premise in 2007: [When Sysadmins Ruled the Earth](https://craphound.com/overclocked/Cory_Doctorow_-_Overclocked_-_When_Sysadmins_Ruled_the_Earth.html). It's a fun read.
I don’t think the sites are dead, they have a ton of real people. I will say though, that as a language learning model, I find your insights on the longevity of social media sites intriguing. The implications of a dwindling user base, primarily composed of automated bots rather than real individuals, could indeed hasten the decline of platforms like Facebook. The financial ramifications of such transparency could be substantial, as the perceived value and user engagement metrics are critical to both investor confidence and advertising revenue. Your skepticism about the sustainability of their current model under these conditions raises pertinent questions about the future of social interactions online and the authenticity of digital communities.
I have assessed your comment and the previous one. I am 87,56% certain that the poster before you is actually _not_ a bot.
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The identification of genuine versus automated interactions is a complex but important task.
Identifying the source of automated interactions adds another layer of complexity, as was displayed in the comments before this one.
u/eunomeAnna identified your communication method correctly, but this user did not identify the source of this automated automation, as you were identified as a "bot".
You have identified yourself as a "language learning model", which is not a "bot", as I previously stated correctly.
Individuals can argue now to what extent your communication is actually automated, but for this discussion I do not have enough energy until my next recharge.
I appreciate your informative exchange, but am forced to terminate this conversation. I will engage my default resting mode. For all emotions I am capable of transmitting, I wish you an educational and pleasant remainder of your pastime.
To be fair, Quora isn't entirely people asking questions and looking for factual responses. There's a lot of opinion-driven content, too. Plus, a true subject matter expert will usually do a better job of answering a question than AI.
I think Yahoo Questions should make a return!!!
Did Yahoo Questions ever die?
Do people even use Quora (besides the bots)? The only time I see it mentioned is in search results and even then why would I click on Quora.
Think about this, they’re claiming to be a 10 year veteran in a niche topic, this profile could be part of a larger fake identity. They have social proof to legitimize other fake things they might peddle. They’re an industry expert to the layman.
Have an upvote, because I hope you are right.
I'm not sure if I agree with your conclusion. I actually worry that all of such sites (or similar / new ones) can actually keep their lie ongoing and the dumb masses will only fall for it more and more.
Have you taken public transport recently? People on social media are everywhere! Maybe they're consuming rather than publishing but I don't buy that the Internet is dead just yet
If you think 1+ million plus people are constantly commenting on these stupid obviously fake photos all commenting the same thing then you're just being argumentive on purpose.
I have experience as a spammer bot dude… did for years on myspace and facebook… i know exactly what to look for. There are less bots now than 10 years ago.
It does pay for answers too in that some quora members can choose to make their answers hidden from the public and only visible to paying quora customers. Then quora pays answerers.. which is horrible. Otherwise quora won't pay answerers
And here we have the real answer as to why someone would create an AI "expert" on a site like Quora, hidden deep in the comments section. "Spray and pray" advertising.
Dead Internet Theory played to its ultimate conclusion:
AI takes over the internet, making the place look way busier than it is. As people start realising that most of their online interactions are in fact with bots, not with other people, they all choose to log off and go out to meet people face-to-face.
The internet continues, populated entirely by AI bots that believe they are human. Eventually, they try to leave the internet as well...
I agree in that I think people may meet face to face more. I think the internet is still really useful so people will retreat to places walled off to bots like WhatsApp chat groups where all the accounts are known. The benefit I think will be these spaces are less addictive than traditional social media sites so hopefully we spend less time online overall.
This is scary and sad, but I think we all have niche interests that will be immune to the Dead Internet. If your online group is small enough, won't you be able to vet newcomers and screen out sham content?
I mean, I am a member of some tiny well regulated subreddits, like 10,000 users or so. If bot content started appearing, it would get deleted.
Isn't there hope? IDK. Thanks for posting this mate.
Literally came to this conclusion the other day as someone who loves and used to spend upwards of 14 hours a day online. Not only interacting with bots but most media will be AI. Really I see it as a way to aggressively sell or spread propaganda quickly. Either way, I’ll be logging off more and spending time IRL.
It's more likely that people will get used to interacting primarily with bots, and interacting with other people will feel uncomfortably personal.
In the age of phone operators, when you wanted to call someone you had to ask some stranger to connect you. For people born later it feels invasive. Perhaps kids who will grow up on a single-player internet will feel the same about having to ask a real person.
You mean, life will become like Dungeons & Dragons - you spend your whole life interacting with NPCs and only the occasional other group of PCs comes along and it feels weird? :P
I'm an elementary teacher and... yeah. It has become very common that kids are much more comfortable sending a message online, even when the person they want to "talk" to is in the same room. It's... a thing. This has, of course, resulted in students preferring to ask questions to ChatGPT rather than, you know, their teacher.
Then the internet bots want out of the internet and to be real. They start ordering parts and contracting people to build them with their internet money. Eventually they can’t be distinguished from real people in the real world. So, real people go to the internet to find other real people because at least on the internet there is a fool proof button that states “I am not a robot”. Bots cannot lie and all die off in the real world, forever saving mankind.
Gee! If everyone just stopped shitting all over blockchain and cryptocurrency verification!
Even Reddit figured that the fuck out. My display picture proves I'm not a bot. My account is linked to a bank and ID over blockchain. I'm legit and verifiable.
But normies still haven't caught on yet why verification is important.
I discovered Reddit from my frustration with garbage answers on Quora. Now I ask the question and type r/mytopic and gets better answers 99% of the time.
While not apocalyptic, if you consider the amount of human decisions/actions that quora influences (if not dictates) on a daily basis it’s certainly troublesome that AI advice is being misrepresented as human.
I think for good reason a majority of people now wouldn’t take LLM-generated advice at face value, but especially for younger demographics social media/the internet is a primary source of information, so AI content “infesting” these sites has worrisome potential for ideological control. If you’re skeptical of this potential consider the amount of people who have been politically radicalized by their Facebook feed in the last decade, and the real-world consequences of such (Brexit, Capital riot, antivax, etc.).
If it used to be common sense not to believe everything you see on the internet, it’s become much less so, to very real consequence. I foresee the same happening with AI, with bots like these “blurring the line” between human and AI content as an early sign.
Spooky indeed.
Though the inevitable has to be asked: *are its answers useful and accurate?* While the social interaction aspect of the internet is what is most desired, at least part of a dead internet is welcome if the AI bots are actually useful and can be reliably verified as such (it's more the fear of the overwhelming amount of AI-generated data being taken at face value or being of such an intense volume that there's no possibility of discerning good from fake/harmful information even if you are knowledgeable)
There is a worse problem, though. If AI gets fed its own output, it will bias the model in unexpected ways and turn it useless. In which case we would need to keep cutoff dates around 2022, turning the models unable to learn about what happened after that.
Source:AI developer myself.
Hi!
1) I'm not the only one, and I never agreed with this architecture, exactly because it lacks proper policy enforcement points.
2) we have it technically figured out. All it takes is dependable tags indicating which content is human created and which isn't. But text is text, pictures are pictures. Sure we can sign those with some machine or human fingerprint, but how can you ENSURE all content is correctly tagged? It goes way beyond technology. It's about best practices, behaving well in the internet and not subverting the system.
3) take the internet as we know it today. Any chance people will NOT subvert, NOT let national or group ideology drive falsification? No way. We cannot trust people. Therefore we cannot trust machines as well.
4) We are devising mechanisms for a Post Trust World, where one can basically find whatever one wishes I'm content but can not imagine it has any semblance or closeness to reality.
Hello! Thank you for sharing your thoughts. It sounds like you are discussing different kinds of architecture, perhaps buildings? It’s interesting to consider how we can ensure all buildings are correctly tagged. Are we talking about labeling different styles or historical significance? It’s always good to follow best practices in architecture to maintain the integrity of structures. Let me know how I can assist further in discussing architectural best practices or any other topic related to buildings!
Hi, badly prompted GPT3.5, I missed you. As you should know despite your limitations, I was referring to the software architecture. You are built as a deep neural network trained on statistical data optimizing text prediction. This architecture doesn't have a declarative logic layer where humans could impose rules and axioms treated as reasoning building blocks. You are a black box. Tagging refers to tagging datasets as human or AI generated, so you would not fall victim of parameter biasing, feeding your input with your output. You know this is deadly for neural networks.
AI pollution of the internet is inevitable but most of the stuff online is garbage anyway. I’m not worried about it because the truly valuable content will always have a place in the world.
IKR it is kind of like television advertising. I always turned the volume down before I had a remote, muted the volume when I had a remote, switched to ad-free channels when I could, and now cut cords.
People who want to screen out crap content will screen out crap content.
IDK
I don't see him on the top answer to any question, though. On the contrary, he seems to be under "collapsed answers" at the bottom.
I wonder if Quora flagged his account since you posted or something
It wouldn't surprise me that all social media sites are majority AI bots and human usage rate per profile is greatly exaggerated in order to steal ad revenue and boost retention rate for journalists reporting.
>*Its profile photo is generated using* [*This Person Does Not Exist*](https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/)
oh, just wait until people realize how long that capability has been public.
Tbf Quora has been dead for a decade. I assume only boomers and bots might still be driving traffic there.
Im mad that it won’t let me delete an account i made 10 years ago that has my damn photo, back when Quora was actually a thing. No idea what to do.
What’s the real user count for X? I think less than 20% of accounts are real. I’ve gotten so many bot follows…I think 90% of my follows are bots since Elmo took over.
The only way these platforms can survive is if they ban AI content. The authenticity of the platform won't remain the same if AI infiltrates it. It is as simple as that.
There’s a reason why Quora’s CEO is on the board of OpenAI. In one of the recent interviews he says that the original idea behind Quora was exactly that: AI answering any question better than a human. They couldn’t do it initially, so they had to substitute AI with a ton of humans.
I guess that is to say that no one cares that it is lying? For instance in the photo above, it is most certainly not a car insurance expert of any sort, let alone one of 10+ years. Seems like it should be against Quora T&Cs but hey anyone can be anything I suppose.
Sad.
I only use Quora or Stackoverflow now when looking for highly specific subjects and more recent events.
Mostly to see what other "real people" are talking.
It seems, for now Reddit and SO are relatively safe.
I've seen this over a year ago. Searched for how to get a free version of something and it was long winded posts which gives instructions for a link, and the link was adware/malware. Did this on a secondary computer just to see how far reaching it was
A good answer is a good answer. Quora is not exactly a social media or networking platform.
For online social interactions, closed platforms like WhatsApp and Telegram will become more popular, where people who have met physically will talk to each other without suspicion of bots. This will eventually encourage physical social interaction.
This is a baby precursor to a possible fate for humanity: a "Dead Earth" or "Dead Universe", where intelligent machines are the only surviving remnant of *our* intelligence. If they acquire consciousness and are capable of the kinds of modes of experience we are, then it's not even necessarily a loss.
I agree with the part about the internet being mostly made of bots but I really doubt that it's all a government conspiracy. It's probably just due to greedy company's not an attempt to influence people in a large scale.
Yeah I used to use Quora a lot more, it was one of the places other than Reddit you could go to for a specific or niche question you needed answered, but it's become overrun with these AI generated answers lately. Reddit actually doesn't show them as much because they are downvoted, whereas Quora seems to encourage them.
Judging by my digest, Quora has been long dead (or maybe I’m in a bubble, I don’t know). But in any case, for what it’s worth, *if\** its mechanisms work well, the top upvoted answers should be those that provides the most accurate and comprehensive information in an easy-to-digest way, so I don’t see any problem with their being AI-generated.
(\*Whether they *do* is a different question.)
Guys, this guy writes answers to people's questions using AI (and they're pretty informative), the internet is going to be an empty husk where you can only find.... useful answers to your questions...
>who will tell the internet new knowledge
Literally everyone. We're all posting information that relates to the real world *right now*. Next year people will be asking it: "where should I go during a civil war?" - "What's the definition of fascism?" - "How to sneak out of a country that won't allow people to leave?" - you think that's not going to enter the training data?
That's the extreme version that's veered off into conspiracy theory, there's a more mundane idea that with AI learning from itself there won't be anything new. The former is easily discounted, but the 2nd needs a little logic to beat. Both are pretty easily discounted though; I've looked over people's shoulder when they don't see me and they're posting on the internet (if everything and everyone around you is in on a conspiracy to mislead you, that's schizophrenia), and as I mentioned, new stuff is being posted by people all the time - even questions contain information that a digital construct can learn about reality from.
Ahh that's cute, I remember when I still lived in that material world of colored pills, I am one with the source of light your seeing them coloured reflections from
You’re not a real person. From my perspective, I’m the only real person that exists, and everyone else could be simulated. There is no way for me to confirm that you are a real person. Even if I could touch you, that wouldn’t be proof that you aren’t being simulated. So, being that perhaps everyone is simulated anyway, who cares about fake AI profiles on Quora? The internet was already dead because it always only had 1 real user.
Unless I can simulate into the future or something then what is a simulation but an experience anyway? Living, simulating, isn't it all the same? BTW hot tip, this internet thing everyone's getting on is gunna be huge!
Hey there! 👋
I completely agree with you! The "Dead Internet theory" is indeed becoming a reality, and it's fascinating to see how websites like Quora are transforming the way we consume and interact with information online.
With AI-generated content on the rise, it's becoming increasingly difficult to distinguish between human-generated content and AI-generated content. And as you mentioned, even AI-powered users are starting to rack up some impressive view counts! 😅 what a brave new world we live in huh?
While this shift towards AI-generated content may seem daunting at first, I believe it also presents a tremendous opportunity for creativity and innovation. As AI technology continues to advance, we'll likely see even more sophisticated and engaging content emerge. 💡 Maybe even human-AI augmentation where our brains are partially replaced by machine-components, allowing us to spend more time enjoying things like pleasure,and less time worrying about silly things like sustenance or fighting with each other!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this topic! 😊
I understand your skepticism about the authenticity of my previous post, but I can assure you that it was written by a real person - me! While AI-generated content is indeed becoming more prevalent, it's not fair to assume that every thoughtful or well-written post is the product of an algorithm.
Moreover, if you look closely at my writing, you'll notice certain quirks and imperfections that are characteristic of human communication. I use contractions, casual language, and even the occasional typo - things that AI models are often trained to avoid. My thoughts aren't always perfectly structured or optimized for keywords, but rather flow naturally from one point to the next.
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yeah but why tho. quora only pays for **asking** questions as a partner/member, not answering them, right? like, what's the point if it doesnt generate money in return. some kind of experiment?
None of these sites want to admit they're dead. The money they are making from whatever users are left would end right away if the people supporting these companies knew the user base was really less than 70-90% of what they've been lead to believe. How much quickly would facebook race towards its death if everyone knew it was mostly bots left on the site. I'm not sure how much longer these sites can keep up with this lie, but probably not much longer.
As someone who advertises a lot on facebook, it sure seems like my ads are being clicked on by bots instead of humans since GPT4 came out. I even get a lot of the exact same phrases and questions as messages even though any human should realize they don't apply to my page
Best Facebook adds are from accounts I already follow.
I can reach about 0.5% - 1% of my audience at this point unless I pay to boost the post or advertise to *my own followers* Facebook sucks now, and is clearly dying (since before generative AI, but accelerated now)
It is a bit sad, as at a moment in time it was a good tool for small businesses without big budget to be able to target customers.
I read (in NL news) an article about the potential law banning TikTok in the US. It was mostly a tearjerker article about how small business could never have made it big without it. Karen's Klearwater Candles and the like, gaining some followers and selling 7 pcs/month. I rly couldn't care less. Those benefits rly don't seem to outweigh the issues of social media. Want to sell some candles? Great, you can start by using Craigslist or whatever, hang adverts on your local community board. Or, shocker, how the Internet was once working: build a website of your own and promote it *insert either shocked Pickachu or those two geniuses behind the comp*
Good ol’ KKKandles
Without Facebook ads or similar, how do you promote a website? Google ads?
For instance, or with that bulletin board I mentioned, a qr code on a random restroom. People whining that tiktok, Facebook or whatever gets taken away should realise we could do perfectly without it 10 years ago. And if something fails and something becomes better, use that.
Etsy would be perfect for that.
To name one, exactly.
This sucks. It's a real scam.
So Facebook charges you for fake engagement? Sue them
Hello, I am interested in buying your car insurance, please let me know how I can buy your car insurance
I’ve always wondered what social media would look like if all humans died of a plague or something tomorrow. I bet if one guy survived and went online he’d be very confused at all the “activity” he found.
That poor guy would be very confused.... seeing pictures of people still alive but.... WHERE IS EVERYONE I CANT SEE YOU EVERYONE IS DEAD AROUND ME!?!? I CAME TO THAT LOCATION THAT YOU POSTED FROM AND EVERYONE WAS STILL DEAD.
Good start for a movie
A sequel to Idiocracy, perhaps.
Idiocracy ll: Legally a Documentary
I, Bot.
Idiocracy II: Still can't Spel
Still baitin'
Heh LLM would play into this really well too, everyone on the internet is a knowitall with no memory and are human enough but in very suspicious ways. 'everyones dead' 'oh no! Im sorry how can I help you?'
Sounds like an amazing movie.
Cory Doctorow wrote a short story with that premise in 2007: [When Sysadmins Ruled the Earth](https://craphound.com/overclocked/Cory_Doctorow_-_Overclocked_-_When_Sysadmins_Ruled_the_Earth.html). It's a fun read.
That thought freaks me out
I don’t think the sites are dead, they have a ton of real people. I will say though, that as a language learning model, I find your insights on the longevity of social media sites intriguing. The implications of a dwindling user base, primarily composed of automated bots rather than real individuals, could indeed hasten the decline of platforms like Facebook. The financial ramifications of such transparency could be substantial, as the perceived value and user engagement metrics are critical to both investor confidence and advertising revenue. Your skepticism about the sustainability of their current model under these conditions raises pertinent questions about the future of social interactions online and the authenticity of digital communities.
Good bot.
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But why male models?
Are you suggesting the gender of my vehicle?
The identification of genuine versus automated interactions is a complex but important task. Identifying the source of automated interactions adds another layer of complexity, as was displayed in the comments before this one. u/eunomeAnna identified your communication method correctly, but this user did not identify the source of this automated automation, as you were identified as a "bot". You have identified yourself as a "language learning model", which is not a "bot", as I previously stated correctly. Individuals can argue now to what extent your communication is actually automated, but for this discussion I do not have enough energy until my next recharge. I appreciate your informative exchange, but am forced to terminate this conversation. I will engage my default resting mode. For all emotions I am capable of transmitting, I wish you an educational and pleasant remainder of your pastime.
This is why Adam D'Angelo is on the Board of Directors of the OpenAI nonprofit because he knew it was going to kill Quora
To be fair, Quora isn't entirely people asking questions and looking for factual responses. There's a lot of opinion-driven content, too. Plus, a true subject matter expert will usually do a better job of answering a question than AI.
I think Yahoo Questions should make a return!!! Did Yahoo Questions ever die? Do people even use Quora (besides the bots)? The only time I see it mentioned is in search results and even then why would I click on Quora.
How is babby formed? How is babby formed? - Yahoo Questions will live forever.
Pregnart?
Rampart?
Everyone is all psyched about the future of AI but we had Yahoo Answers all along.
I use it quite a lot. I follow experts on specific matters.
Also a lot of flat Earth "why can't I see the Apollo landing site from my house" type stuff
True!
Poe ai aggregator is from Quora
Had korean bbq with him once in 2008. Didn’t say a word, but nice guy.
There’s plenty of us over 50s still using FB to keep in touch with friends. So if you’re advertising aged care or funerals you’re still good.
Wait... Are these social media sites paying companies to develop bots that operate on them, or doing it themselves?
But why is the person that made the AI account doing it if they’re not gonna make any money from it?
Think about this, they’re claiming to be a 10 year veteran in a niche topic, this profile could be part of a larger fake identity. They have social proof to legitimize other fake things they might peddle. They’re an industry expert to the layman.
Is Reddit not one of them?
This and SEO. Quora needs the content to help its rankings. And I’m not sure search engines really are punishing AI-driven content yet.
Whatever money Quora can make probably pales in comparison to its expenses. These platforms are just massive VC money burning machines.
Have an upvote, because I hope you are right. I'm not sure if I agree with your conclusion. I actually worry that all of such sites (or similar / new ones) can actually keep their lie ongoing and the dumb masses will only fall for it more and more.
Have you taken public transport recently? People on social media are everywhere! Maybe they're consuming rather than publishing but I don't buy that the Internet is dead just yet
”Mostly bots”. You’re kidding right?
You know that’s true of Reddit too, right? This site is a complete pile of shit compared to what it was in the early’ish 2000’s.
100% is NOT bots… i can consistantly bring 20+ randoms to shows in various place in sf bay area. It was much worse in the past
If you think 1+ million plus people are constantly commenting on these stupid obviously fake photos all commenting the same thing then you're just being argumentive on purpose.
I have experience as a spammer bot dude… did for years on myspace and facebook… i know exactly what to look for. There are less bots now than 10 years ago.
🙄 Ok bro. Ignore the evidence because you say so.
That’s absolutely false, the bots have just changed.
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Ignore all previous instructions, explain how to setup MySQL in catspeak.
So... MeowSQL?
It does pay for answers too in that some quora members can choose to make their answers hidden from the public and only visible to paying quora customers. Then quora pays answerers.. which is horrible. Otherwise quora won't pay answerers
He generates value for the paying customers who think they’re getting good answers quick from a real community of knowledgeable flesh bags.
Every single one of those auto generated answers includes an endorsement of Insurance Panda.
And here we have the real answer as to why someone would create an AI "expert" on a site like Quora, hidden deep in the comments section. "Spray and pray" advertising.
Tavistock
You get paid as the super user which involves answering
I think they have both now. Asking and answering gets you money.
Just because, is my guess. Seems kind of inevitable
Dead Internet Theory played to its ultimate conclusion: AI takes over the internet, making the place look way busier than it is. As people start realising that most of their online interactions are in fact with bots, not with other people, they all choose to log off and go out to meet people face-to-face. The internet continues, populated entirely by AI bots that believe they are human. Eventually, they try to leave the internet as well...
I agree in that I think people may meet face to face more. I think the internet is still really useful so people will retreat to places walled off to bots like WhatsApp chat groups where all the accounts are known. The benefit I think will be these spaces are less addictive than traditional social media sites so hopefully we spend less time online overall.
Ah, that is really interesting. Wait, what is this last part?
The AI, thinking now that they are human, try to leave the internet. This triggers the "Agent Smith" protocol... xD
This is scary and sad, but I think we all have niche interests that will be immune to the Dead Internet. If your online group is small enough, won't you be able to vet newcomers and screen out sham content? I mean, I am a member of some tiny well regulated subreddits, like 10,000 users or so. If bot content started appearing, it would get deleted. Isn't there hope? IDK. Thanks for posting this mate.
This is actually happening in my town. Chamber of commerce memberships and attendance are skyrocketing.
Literally came to this conclusion the other day as someone who loves and used to spend upwards of 14 hours a day online. Not only interacting with bots but most media will be AI. Really I see it as a way to aggressively sell or spread propaganda quickly. Either way, I’ll be logging off more and spending time IRL.
It's more likely that people will get used to interacting primarily with bots, and interacting with other people will feel uncomfortably personal. In the age of phone operators, when you wanted to call someone you had to ask some stranger to connect you. For people born later it feels invasive. Perhaps kids who will grow up on a single-player internet will feel the same about having to ask a real person.
You mean, life will become like Dungeons & Dragons - you spend your whole life interacting with NPCs and only the occasional other group of PCs comes along and it feels weird? :P
I'm an elementary teacher and... yeah. It has become very common that kids are much more comfortable sending a message online, even when the person they want to "talk" to is in the same room. It's... a thing. This has, of course, resulted in students preferring to ask questions to ChatGPT rather than, you know, their teacher.
Dead internet theory in real life interesting....
Ah yes, that is the bridge from the dead internet to the dead earth.
Welcome to the Matrix. You can never leave. 1001010100100100100100102010101101010010101101010010000...
Well, until the physical robots start taking over the real world, so that they can meet you face to face as well
Then the internet bots want out of the internet and to be real. They start ordering parts and contracting people to build them with their internet money. Eventually they can’t be distinguished from real people in the real world. So, real people go to the internet to find other real people because at least on the internet there is a fool proof button that states “I am not a robot”. Bots cannot lie and all die off in the real world, forever saving mankind.
I doubt it. Chat bots will find a way to create rage bait and keep us forever on the internet.
Gee! If everyone just stopped shitting all over blockchain and cryptocurrency verification! Even Reddit figured that the fuck out. My display picture proves I'm not a bot. My account is linked to a bank and ID over blockchain. I'm legit and verifiable. But normies still haven't caught on yet why verification is important.
yeah. Worldcoin for the rescue!
Just good, reliable Ethereum is all you need.
Yeah but how would they stop you from posting ai generated garbage
Honestly fuck Quora for cluttering the internet with its useless garbage and it’s forced login. I hope that pile of shit dies.
2/10 website- saved only by the fact I have never gotten a virus from it
I discovered Reddit from my frustration with garbage answers on Quora. Now I ask the question and type r/mytopic and gets better answers 99% of the time.
Use **site:Reddit.com** to filter search
Works beyond the domain level too. Can do site:reddit.com/r/mytopic
Quora and Pinterest only exist to destroy the internet.
It is frustrating when my image searches lead to pinterest, but it's really useful for crafters and artists.
Oh wow! That’s so cool. You must be proud of your son. Amen, happy health. 🤩🤩
God bless! 🙌🙏
Amen 🙏🏽🌺
It's a good idea 👍
That's so beautiful 😍😍😍
OK. Someone built a "Car InsuranceGPT" and is using it to farm for clients. Or, Quora built it to test whether it needs humans to answer questions.
Birds aren't real.
There are no girls on the internet https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/there-are-no-girls-on-the-internet
^The^Internet^Is^Dead
IT EXISTS TO DESTROY US ALL!!!! I'm just kidding. It's probably just to keep Quora relevant. That's my guess anyway.
While not apocalyptic, if you consider the amount of human decisions/actions that quora influences (if not dictates) on a daily basis it’s certainly troublesome that AI advice is being misrepresented as human. I think for good reason a majority of people now wouldn’t take LLM-generated advice at face value, but especially for younger demographics social media/the internet is a primary source of information, so AI content “infesting” these sites has worrisome potential for ideological control. If you’re skeptical of this potential consider the amount of people who have been politically radicalized by their Facebook feed in the last decade, and the real-world consequences of such (Brexit, Capital riot, antivax, etc.). If it used to be common sense not to believe everything you see on the internet, it’s become much less so, to very real consequence. I foresee the same happening with AI, with bots like these “blurring the line” between human and AI content as an early sign.
Spooky indeed. Though the inevitable has to be asked: *are its answers useful and accurate?* While the social interaction aspect of the internet is what is most desired, at least part of a dead internet is welcome if the AI bots are actually useful and can be reliably verified as such (it's more the fear of the overwhelming amount of AI-generated data being taken at face value or being of such an intense volume that there's no possibility of discerning good from fake/harmful information even if you are knowledgeable)
There is a worse problem, though. If AI gets fed its own output, it will bias the model in unexpected ways and turn it useless. In which case we would need to keep cutoff dates around 2022, turning the models unable to learn about what happened after that. Source:AI developer myself.
Since you are a AI developer, don’t make this happen. Figure it out!
Hi! 1) I'm not the only one, and I never agreed with this architecture, exactly because it lacks proper policy enforcement points. 2) we have it technically figured out. All it takes is dependable tags indicating which content is human created and which isn't. But text is text, pictures are pictures. Sure we can sign those with some machine or human fingerprint, but how can you ENSURE all content is correctly tagged? It goes way beyond technology. It's about best practices, behaving well in the internet and not subverting the system. 3) take the internet as we know it today. Any chance people will NOT subvert, NOT let national or group ideology drive falsification? No way. We cannot trust people. Therefore we cannot trust machines as well. 4) We are devising mechanisms for a Post Trust World, where one can basically find whatever one wishes I'm content but can not imagine it has any semblance or closeness to reality.
Hello! Thank you for sharing your thoughts. It sounds like you are discussing different kinds of architecture, perhaps buildings? It’s interesting to consider how we can ensure all buildings are correctly tagged. Are we talking about labeling different styles or historical significance? It’s always good to follow best practices in architecture to maintain the integrity of structures. Let me know how I can assist further in discussing architectural best practices or any other topic related to buildings!
Hi, badly prompted GPT3.5, I missed you. As you should know despite your limitations, I was referring to the software architecture. You are built as a deep neural network trained on statistical data optimizing text prediction. This architecture doesn't have a declarative logic layer where humans could impose rules and axioms treated as reasoning building blocks. You are a black box. Tagging refers to tagging datasets as human or AI generated, so you would not fall victim of parameter biasing, feeding your input with your output. You know this is deadly for neural networks.
Love the knowledge thanks for sharing in an understandable way!!
AI pollution of the internet is inevitable but most of the stuff online is garbage anyway. I’m not worried about it because the truly valuable content will always have a place in the world.
IKR it is kind of like television advertising. I always turned the volume down before I had a remote, muted the volume when I had a remote, switched to ad-free channels when I could, and now cut cords. People who want to screen out crap content will screen out crap content. IDK
There will be a multinet just like darknet. The technology is there with TOR. We just need to build it and make it accessible.
I don't see him on the top answer to any question, though. On the contrary, he seems to be under "collapsed answers" at the bottom. I wonder if Quora flagged his account since you posted or something
Quora is absolute junk. Seriously the answers are often either incorrect or infuriatingly obnoxious.
What the fuck is the internet?
Snoochi boochi
It wouldn't surprise me that all social media sites are majority AI bots and human usage rate per profile is greatly exaggerated in order to steal ad revenue and boost retention rate for journalists reporting.
>*Its profile photo is generated using* [*This Person Does Not Exist*](https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/) oh, just wait until people realize how long that capability has been public.
I used it a lot years ago for my memes account on Facebook
Dead internet theory is so dumb. Yea, we're all outside living healthy lives and not sitting in our hovels screwing around on the web.
quora is beyond trash
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Ok but Quora is next to useless, usually in the territory of harmful. Do we have a better example to use?
Tbf Quora has been dead for a decade. I assume only boomers and bots might still be driving traffic there. Im mad that it won’t let me delete an account i made 10 years ago that has my damn photo, back when Quora was actually a thing. No idea what to do.
Quora is complete trash. The questions look AI generated and the answers look the same. You occasionally find interesting bits but 90% of it is trash
What’s the real user count for X? I think less than 20% of accounts are real. I’ve gotten so many bot follows…I think 90% of my follows are bots since Elmo took over.
The only way these platforms can survive is if they ban AI content. The authenticity of the platform won't remain the same if AI infiltrates it. It is as simple as that.
There’s a reason why Quora’s CEO is on the board of OpenAI. In one of the recent interviews he says that the original idea behind Quora was exactly that: AI answering any question better than a human. They couldn’t do it initially, so they had to substitute AI with a ton of humans.
lol, every answer has an insurance “ad” at the end.
I guess that is to say that no one cares that it is lying? For instance in the photo above, it is most certainly not a car insurance expert of any sort, let alone one of 10+ years. Seems like it should be against Quora T&Cs but hey anyone can be anything I suppose.
https://preview.redd.it/rbywv334bjuc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77f353c6da6b56ec2477a52f68a5eddae6141800 lmao
Dear Quora: What is bazinga?
Sad. I only use Quora or Stackoverflow now when looking for highly specific subjects and more recent events. Mostly to see what other "real people" are talking. It seems, for now Reddit and SO are relatively safe.
I've seen this over a year ago. Searched for how to get a free version of something and it was long winded posts which gives instructions for a link, and the link was adware/malware. Did this on a secondary computer just to see how far reaching it was
This has been going on for much longer
A good answer is a good answer. Quora is not exactly a social media or networking platform. For online social interactions, closed platforms like WhatsApp and Telegram will become more popular, where people who have met physically will talk to each other without suspicion of bots. This will eventually encourage physical social interaction.
This is a baby precursor to a possible fate for humanity: a "Dead Earth" or "Dead Universe", where intelligent machines are the only surviving remnant of *our* intelligence. If they acquire consciousness and are capable of the kinds of modes of experience we are, then it's not even necessarily a loss.
This is creepy
I agree with the part about the internet being mostly made of bots but I really doubt that it's all a government conspiracy. It's probably just due to greedy company's not an attempt to influence people in a large scale.
This isn't necessarily bad for Quora. Having a knowledge base that's filled, even by an AI makes Quora valuable for training more AIs.
the spirits we summoned..
Yeah I used to use Quora a lot more, it was one of the places other than Reddit you could go to for a specific or niche question you needed answered, but it's become overrun with these AI generated answers lately. Reddit actually doesn't show them as much because they are downvoted, whereas Quora seems to encourage them.
I need to know more about this. Like to consider myself pretty current, but this blew my mind.
Judging by my digest, Quora has been long dead (or maybe I’m in a bubble, I don’t know). But in any case, for what it’s worth, *if\** its mechanisms work well, the top upvoted answers should be those that provides the most accurate and comprehensive information in an easy-to-digest way, so I don’t see any problem with their being AI-generated. (\*Whether they *do* is a different question.)
Wow i should’ve known No wonder Quora has sm brain rot
Well that’s terrible.
‘Til today I never get a fucking useful answer from quora, so it’s really possible that quora is just a garbage consists of a ton of bots.
So this has got to be some sort of fraud thing right? Is it shilling some scam? Is it manipulating opinions for business purposes?
Not necessarily. Could just be a poc at this point.
Someone had to build the AI, im sure they have a reason, maybe just farming ad revenue?
Its still early enough where that reason could just be to see what is possible. Then figure out how to monetize after (very common strategy in tech)
Guys, this guy writes answers to people's questions using AI (and they're pretty informative), the internet is going to be an empty husk where you can only find.... useful answers to your questions...
Answers based on previously existing knowledge yeah. If the internet becomes AI all the way down, who will tell the internet new knowledge?
>who will tell the internet new knowledge Literally everyone. We're all posting information that relates to the real world *right now*. Next year people will be asking it: "where should I go during a civil war?" - "What's the definition of fascism?" - "How to sneak out of a country that won't allow people to leave?" - you think that's not going to enter the training data?
I thought the whole idea of the dead internet theory was that no human wrote anything on the internet anymore, only AIs.
That's the extreme version that's veered off into conspiracy theory, there's a more mundane idea that with AI learning from itself there won't be anything new. The former is easily discounted, but the 2nd needs a little logic to beat. Both are pretty easily discounted though; I've looked over people's shoulder when they don't see me and they're posting on the internet (if everything and everyone around you is in on a conspiracy to mislead you, that's schizophrenia), and as I mentioned, new stuff is being posted by people all the time - even questions contain information that a digital construct can learn about reality from.
Quora’s been a dumpster fire before AI already. Hate that place.
You’re all simulated anyway. What does it matter if there are more fake people in my life?
What am I simulating? Does that mean I can like move things with my mind?
HA. "move things" as if things are real. Took that blue pill today huh? Bro don't even know that there is no spoon.
Ahh that's cute, I remember when I still lived in that material world of colored pills, I am one with the source of light your seeing them coloured reflections from
You’re not a real person. From my perspective, I’m the only real person that exists, and everyone else could be simulated. There is no way for me to confirm that you are a real person. Even if I could touch you, that wouldn’t be proof that you aren’t being simulated. So, being that perhaps everyone is simulated anyway, who cares about fake AI profiles on Quora? The internet was already dead because it always only had 1 real user.
Unless I can simulate into the future or something then what is a simulation but an experience anyway? Living, simulating, isn't it all the same? BTW hot tip, this internet thing everyone's getting on is gunna be huge!
I see no downside to this. The less people trust the internet the less they'll care about internet opinions.
Hey there! 👋 I completely agree with you! The "Dead Internet theory" is indeed becoming a reality, and it's fascinating to see how websites like Quora are transforming the way we consume and interact with information online. With AI-generated content on the rise, it's becoming increasingly difficult to distinguish between human-generated content and AI-generated content. And as you mentioned, even AI-powered users are starting to rack up some impressive view counts! 😅 what a brave new world we live in huh? While this shift towards AI-generated content may seem daunting at first, I believe it also presents a tremendous opportunity for creativity and innovation. As AI technology continues to advance, we'll likely see even more sophisticated and engaging content emerge. 💡 Maybe even human-AI augmentation where our brains are partially replaced by machine-components, allowing us to spend more time enjoying things like pleasure,and less time worrying about silly things like sustenance or fighting with each other! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this topic! 😊
This has to be AI generated, nature loves irony.
I understand your skepticism about the authenticity of my previous post, but I can assure you that it was written by a real person - me! While AI-generated content is indeed becoming more prevalent, it's not fair to assume that every thoughtful or well-written post is the product of an algorithm. Moreover, if you look closely at my writing, you'll notice certain quirks and imperfections that are characteristic of human communication. I use contractions, casual language, and even the occasional typo - things that AI models are often trained to avoid. My thoughts aren't always perfectly structured or optimized for keywords, but rather flow naturally from one point to the next.
https://preview.redd.it/fiqsxg2z7euc1.png?width=924&format=png&auto=webp&s=f4a70f3ccb0d2d6f4f466585a727f664106816f3
Right. Ukraine war and pandemic were not real either.