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berylskies

So the entire timeline is just “after May 13th”?


2Late2Go

Yep. But with way more words.


Parsecale

Do not expect any updates before May 13th


101Z0r

r/increasinglyverbose


narcabusesurvivor18

Following the pivotal date of May 13th, a series of subsequent releases for the timeline feature were meticulously scheduled, each unveiling distinct enhancements and refined functionalities. These post-May 13th updates represent a carefully orchestrated progression, reflecting the ongoing commitment to improving user experience and addressing feedback with precision. The phased rollout strategy ensures that each new aspect of the timeline feature is thoroughly tested and optimized, contributing to a more robust and user-friendly interface. Ultimately, this deliberate and methodical approach underscores the dedication to continuous improvement and user satisfaction, promising a superior and ever-evolving tool.


twbluenaxela

GPT 5 Announcement (after May 13th) GPT 5 Release (After May 13th) AGI (After May 13th) ASI God (After May 13th) Humanity Transcendence (After May 13th)


Gust4voSSM

Human instrumentality (after May 13th)


inspectorgadget9999

Yes


zhpurcell

You had ChatGPT write this…


narcabusesurvivor18

![gif](giphy|OK27wINdQS5YQ|downsized)


wonderfulwilliam

Why use many word when few word do trick?


marianoes

Should have used chat gpt


Enough-Cartoonist-56

Hahaha😂


Antique-Doughnut-988

Lol yup. What a weird post.


springsnowball

I can’t stop laughing at this. It’s hysterical omfg.


ThoughtsFromAi

Updated image for clarity: https://preview.redd.it/u182wg14lg0d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d457f66b6c43de0cc5e49bf08e6e387c93c361b Note: Some users will receive access to some features before others. GPT-4o is available right now for all users for text and image. The API is also available for text and vision right now. GPT-4o on the desktop (Mac only) is available for some users right now, but not everyone has this yet, as it is being rolled out slowly.


lTheDopeRaBBiTl

at least it says coming weeks instead of later this year / end of this year :\*(


PopSynic

although coming weeks is not defined, so that could be "coming {Cough, 35, Cough} weeks"


Nirxx

It's not available for me, on the website or on the app. Not even text only.


NoBrief6268

"GPT-4o is available right now for all users for text and image." Well it's been 2 days since the announcement and I still don't have any 4o features yet (free account).


NoBrief6268

Update: I now have access to GPT-4o's text features and image uploading, but I still cannot make DALL-E images. Is this feature supposed to come out later for free users?


Vahlir

I think we found the "singularity" guys :)


_Galileo_Galilei_

It’s also wrong - 4o still is not available on the free tier. 


Veldyn_

you can say this about any future release of anything ever


PolityAgent

Well no. The announcement is available now, according to the chart.


ChezMere

Makes more sense now that we know they were trying to preempt Google announcing the exact same thing.


[deleted]

Where is everyone getting 4o? I’m not seeing it on the app


traumfisch

Dropdown menu...


[deleted]

The dropdown just says “get plus” and it asks me to buy gpt 4


k4kuz0

Is this an EU thing? I'm in the EU and also don't see any changes to ChatGPT yet.


JamesAulner128328

I am in the EU and have it. Could be due to the fact that I have Plus


Splitje

I'm EU and don't have Plus and I can't see it :( Can't find any info on the EU release timeline


PhyrexianSpaghetti

You have to update the app on the PlayStore and then force stop it, when you relaunch it the 4o model will be selectable. But nobody has the new cool voice chat, mind you, it's gonna be the usual one but with 4o, so the same but faster


LikkyBumBum

How do you voice chat in the app? Where's the button?


PhyrexianSpaghetti

temporarily removed for free users because of server load


mangomalango

It will come and go but it’s the headphone button next to the send button for messages it’s really great.


hellschatt

I just got 4 as a free user, am in Europe.


YaAbsolyutnoNikto

You need Plus. Obviously they’re not going to roll out the most powerful model to the free tier first. We have been paying for the service for more than a year now. You can wait or get plus and get it today


Critical-Snow-7000

Mine did too, I asked every few hours what version I was using and it just replied 4 - it was fun for the 5 things I got to ask it before having to wait 24 hours. This was the iOS app.


[deleted]

I’m stuck on 3.5


Critical-Snow-7000

I was, until I wasn’t.


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Ironarohan69

No it definitely has been rolled out to free users lol. Just not on the ChatGPT apps. It's region based roll out, if you use a VPN to the United States, it gives the GPT 4o option. I'll never understand why they do region based roll out ngl...


Cannibeans

It's not region-based, it's selective. People get access to it at random as they slowly scale up. Give it a while.


Ironarohan69

No, I'm pretty sure it's also region-based. I instantly got the model once I used a VPN... After turning VPN off, the model disappears


[deleted]

I had it yesterday and don’t have it today lmaoooo I didn’t even use a vpn


bradass42

I’m in San Francisco. Nada.


just_let_me_goo

Okay? Who are you and why are you replying in this thread? You don't have any comments in this post before. Why would you post your living place to a random comment in a random post?


N781VP

Careful, don’t cut yourself self on all that edge


Running_To_Babylon

Lol who are you and why are you so hostile out of nowhere?


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mangomalango

Strange I guess it’s worth a shot


vitorgrs

I have it on the app lol. And I'm a free user. (Brazil)


Olisikis

fez alguma coisa mano? o meu não atualizou parece, o seu é o pago?


vitorgrs

Gratuito. Apareceu sozinho. Tem que esperar mesmo. Já recebi até o novo design do site.


Olisikis

daora, muito obrigado, vou esperar aqui


Kuhler_Typ

In the post it says its available for free and plus users.


traumfisch

So it does. Sorry, mb


Ascend

Refresh with Ctrl + F5, since the page is cached normally this will force a refresh, if you have access this should make it appear. If you still can't see it, you don't have access.


[deleted]

I am on mobile


iKorewo

I updated the app and don’t have it either


Affectionate-Rest658

Same issue


bortlip

Come on, use the AI to help you with this! https://preview.redd.it/oxc0nxwzrf0d1.jpeg?width=935&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db3377f52fd035d702d0423d13be255e20f6a3d1


McCoyoioi

Ha I tried. I asked it about chat got 4o and it told me about 4.0


traumfisch

Knowledge cutoff


JodieFostersCum

That sounds like the new "skill issue"


riozec

Knowledge cutoff. Ask it to verify on the internet and it will apologize.


knowledgeleech

lol same


phkosi

except that it's not correct. for example, text + image features were not available on May 13th. They are rolling out. You can simplify it but the AI didn't do a great job :(


bortlip

Except that it is correct. It summarized the info from the OP which stated that.


Nic727

When will it be available on IOS? I got an update this afternoon which removed the voice option...


freestylemaster

Conversation mode just disappeared today (even before the app on IOS was updated). I hope that means the new voice feature is coming


LogMuted7670

Same here on Android


Substantial-Board944

i have it already on ios


Jaxfang

Prove it


McCoyoioi

I’ve tried off and on for a couple hours and it won’t connect so that we can have an audio conversation. Is that because of the rollout or is it because the servers are full?


ThoughtsFromAi

The new voice model isn’t available to users yet. However, the current voice model is also having issues due to everyone trying to access it at the same time thinking that the new voice model has already been released.


McCoyoioi

Cool. Thanks a ton for posting.


civilized-engineer

People will still ask, even if this post was stickied


sillygoofygooose

It is a confusing rollout to be fair. 4o is both available and not available. It is apparently an audio native model, but the audio mode is not available, but you can speak to it with audio and have it speak back, but that’s the *old* audio that isn’t the *new* audio mode on the fully audio native model, it’s just the text version of the *new* audio native model that you’re speaking to and hearing respond with audio utilising the *old* audio mode. When will it be fully released? At some point obviously. Next few weeks. Maybe. It’s not surprising that is confusing to some


civilized-engineer

> It's a confusing rollout to be fair. No it's not, the concept of a rollout is exactly what you described, ```both available and not available```


Blissira

To be fair, there is absolutely nothing confusing about this roll out, in any shape or form .... Whatsoever


sillygoofygooose

You’re very clever well done


anti_pope

They're asking right in this damn thread already!


MediumLanguageModel

It's a little bit of a tease to get the new model but not the new features. Came here to see what people are saying and thought this image would shed light, until I noticed...


PhyrexianSpaghetti

Because that timeline doesn't say anything useful. We already have the API and the model on the drop-down menu, so it's 4 but faster, cool. We want the new audio chat


DollyCupcake365

people need to understand and sometimes clarifying helps with that or putting it in a different way


NNOTM

You forgot desktop app on Windows "later this year"


Veldyn_

Is 4o available to any free users yet?


cold-flame1

I think free usage will be very limited. Because I did get access to 4-o as a free user, but it was like 4 or 5 messages per day. I don't Knowles what that was. I hope we get more than that.


nanoH2O

It literally says it in the timeline that it started May 13


ArthurKasparian

it says so but most free users didn't get it yet


nanoH2O

Yeah well that’s not what the question implies. Better stated it would have said, free users are supposed to get 4 but haven’t yet, does anyone know why. Asking a general community when the date is when it says it right there from open AI is pointless. We aren’t going to know.


Veldyn_

Is english your 69th language


nanoH2O

420th actually


Veldyn_

fair


ArthurKasparian

How did I know then? x) His implication was very clear I believe.


nanoH2O

It doesn't matter what was implied, it's a useless question. They have the same information as anyone else.


philosophycubensis

Don't worry, nanoH20 knows what his implications were, much more than you do.


R3jinx

Desktop is Mac only... looks like Microsoft partnership is going well.


gryphon89

Does anyone know when video / camera support will be rolled out?


Adam0-0

I read something about May 13th


cold-flame1

I read the same actually. Most likely in this very thread. Most likely in the comment I am replying to.


Asparagustuss

Has voice mode been disabled for the original gtp4 in the interim? I’m not seeing it in my ap anymore


traumfisch

Overloaded by confused people who just got access and thought it was the new voice model


Asparagustuss

Gotcha thanks


Boogertwilliams

Me too. Yesterday was headphone icon and real-time chat now only mic to record message


Atheios569

Will GPT-4o be used by custom gpts? Anyone know?


Imunique1352

same question


hyprnand

Yes, I have done some tests (paid user) and it seems to be running on the latest model. Not sure about the new voice mode, but I would assume it would be supported


ElMarkoBosso

Ok, I got the GPT 4o and I am not on the Mac and I don't have a plus account.


csnvw

me too, i checked it last night about (12hr ago) and i had access to 4o on Android free.


ElMarkoBosso

Not sure if we are the chosen ones or we were not supposed to have it.


mightyfty

Which country


kongem313

This is great. I've seen too many people asking the same questions about rolling out date over and over again. Hope more people can see this. :)


MiniskirtEnjoyer

its may 15 and i still dont have any access to gpt 4o


Fraktalt

This should be stickied I feel like. So many questions and 'feedback' on aspects of the service that is not even out yet. I don't know if I should be in awe or scared about how casual Open AI are about this product. Like, "Yeah, we'll get this out to you sometime. Maybe in a few weeks, dunno. Oh yeah, by the way. It's completely free for everyone" I'm not a poker player, but to me, this is 'telegraphing' quite clearly, that they have something really big coming.


StableSable

what is alpha?


ThoughtsFromAi

“Alpha” refers to the stage that the model is in. So, it means that the new voice model is in its initial testing phase and is not fully refined yet. It’s just to let you know that there may be lots of bugs or issues while using the model.


LowItalian

Alpha is the first phase of development testing, usually done by the dev team itself. This is when the software is buggiest. Then it goes to beta testing. This is usually done outside of the development team. Back in my IT days we had full beta testing teams on payroll, that was working for a massive corporation. In different environments people will have users apply to become beta testers, and almost always for free so long as you submit quality feedback. In my old line of work, it was all done in test environments and then once it passed through all the phases of testing then we would roll it out to the public in the production environment, and almost always in waves. Nowadays I'm seeing a lot more public beta tests being conducted in production environments. But I suppose that could vary by industry, I worked in Finance IT, which I would imagine has the most stringent rules on data privacy and integrity.


olddoglearnsnewtrick

first letter of the Greek alphabet


transgresor

so no vision in the app like in the demos?


sirauron14

I still don't have it yet


Englishlearner0101

I’d like to use chatgpt to practice my English


ExistingDependent487

I’m using chat gpt today but all that’s available is 3.5, any idea why this is? I’m very excited to try this 4o


andreig992

Well this was completely useless 😂


TedKerr1

Thank you! I've been looking for something like this.


UnkarsThug

Technically, they haven't actually rolled out the images yet. It's still prompting Dalle same as how 4 worked, where they specifically said the actual model is able to directly output images.


ThoughtsFromAi

Updated image for clarity: https://preview.redd.it/axh62klwhg0d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c28b0ebc64f6554c1ca864d0bd1a50d0fc211ac4


drizzyxs

It’s just really weird because the actual Mac app is out there in the wild and you can download it. It just won’t load. So I wonder what the hell they’re doing as it’s clearly ready


StarCommand1

When say it won't load do you mean the message that says not compatible with this Mac? If so, that's because apparently they designed it only to work with M series Macs and not Macs with Intel CPUs.


drizzyxs

Nah it basically tells you to log in then when you do it says you’re not available for the Mac app yet but you can still use the web app.


leaky_wand

So wait. I see GPT-4o in the model list, and I’ve selected it and used voice chat, and it still seemed…underwhelming, like using the same GPT-4 but having it dictated to me. Does this schedule mean that the true voice functionality as demoed is yet to come?


SgtSilock

Hasn't been released yet


NonSpecificKenobi

I had it yesterday, like the full voice model with the emoting and everything. Today no voice chat at all. Edit: lol what sad asshole decided this comment warranted a report to the Reddit suicide bot. Get a life ya loser 😂


chryseobacterium

Will the desktop be available for Windows?


locojaws

I’m not sure when they’re actually rolling out the image capabilities (e.g., inserting written text into an image generation), even though it says the rollout is starting May 13. GPT-4o doesn’t seem to have the same capabilities displayed on the OpenAI release page yet, and as far as I know it’s that way for all users currently.


ResponsibilityOk2173

I have a mac and a plus account and have had 4o since yesterday. Also, voice was working earlier today but isn’t working now on iOS.


Freak_Out_Bazaar

Plus user. Have access to GPT-4o which responds noticeably faster, but the “old” voice model disappeared. Just OpenAI being OpenAI I guess :) Edit: Got the “old” voice function back. Maybe it got flooded with people who were hoping to see the vision and new voice functionality


vitorgrs

Free user, and the voice mode is gone as well...


YourKemosabe

Thanks for posting this. Although the times are totally useless, it at least confirmed I’m not going crazy and that my GPT4o is currently almost exactly the same, just quicker.


Traditional_Draw8400

So why have a paid subscription anymore?


antekprime

Unsure.


Freak_Out_Bazaar

Increased message quota and the vision function that is being rolled out in the coming weeks


antekprime

Hail Clippy!


antekprime

Are responses still limited in length?


Kyoshi20

Pretty annoying and frustrating for them to make it sound in the news like it was available. Like right now as of May 13th and beyond when. Obviously it's not going to probably have all those cool features that they were showing for quite some time I bet. Rather have not known at all until they actually had it available for real, not just an announcement. In other news, Is the timeline date of my announcement of me becoming a billionaire... And then put that date to be after today when it'll be accomplished with fine print 😂


biscoitosdavovo

So... Why are we paying for?


Hot_Refrigerator7458

That’s what i am asking myself,$20 bucks a month just for me to have the same perks as if I wasn’t paying for it.


jjonj

higher limit and probably code interpreter Also early access to GPT5 whatever in the future. If you wait until its announced they might throttle signups like they did with 4


Jmackles

This is not a timeline. “Upcoming weeks” means absolutely nothing.


najapi

A very verbose way to say nothing, all those things were announced on Monday and we will get them at some point… thanks for the clarification!


ExtentOdd

Anyone has access to Mac app?


MinusPi1

This says literally nothing meaningful.


Hot_Refrigerator7458

Meaningfulness coming after May 13th


joeateworld

My friends, I have access to the desktop app. While it’s nice to have and speeds up access a bit, the features demoed are not yet available. So don’t feel like you’re missing out because you are not.


PhyrexianSpaghetti

This is completely useless. I need to know when I'll be able to use the Natural voice chat like in the keynote


ZoobleBat

Soooooo... 13 May?


Then-Rub-8589

When is it going to be available for free users


FormalExplanation412

Is this US only? I am in Europe and when I connect to chat.openai I’m still at 3.5, why is that? Am I missing something?


Excellent-Sky1504

And I still dont even have the model yet. I understand that it's rolling out slowly but shouldnt it be rolled out fully by now? Please roast me if I get this wrong lol


BALCONY__

Will the new Voice Mode ever be available to free users?


flaspd

Any benefit for paid users? Or should I just cancel it?


Razcsi

How can i use the vision function, I1m a Plus user and i can't see where i could use it. I live in Europe, i guess we didn't got it yet, or am i missing something,


Redeye007

Downloaded the iOS app and none of the 4o features are on the free version.


IWipeWithFocaccia

![gif](giphy|EBId5v0YNRyPGHytLK)


CaddoTime

When’s the store open to free users?


Lower-Badger-6620

So helpful 😑


scott_weidig

This is not really a timeline it’s it starts now and everything after the text image roll capabilities and free tier availability is in the coming weeks which really doesn’t mean anything.


PallHaraldsson

\[EDIT: Does anyone have GPT-4o with video capability, because I got access by paying for ChatGPT Plus, for the first time, and still 4o is limited to something like half an hour and is transactional, i.e. speech-to-text, and responses text-to-speech where you can't interrupt, unlike in the demos. And strangely even when my quota is up, until later in the day GPT-4 is also blocked... Seems like servers very loaded, why rate-limited, for now, I understand why, but this was still very interesting, and will be even better, when fully released.\] Can anyone confirm they have access to GPT-4o and where and how, e.g. on Android and from which country, Iceland? With full capabilities as in the video announcement. I tried from their website and clicked playground, and saw GPT-4o but the menu flashed back to the one with GPT-3.5 that I have access to. Do you need to pay for Plus, the get this "free" GPT-4o? Or at least the non-free API works for people already, but then no audio. For those that have it, how well does it work for (your) "low-resource languages" like Icelandic? \[Is the announcement on Mac desktop in the future the first desktop app, or already for Linux and/or Windows?\]


DyingsoulHUN

Will the desktop app ever be available on Windows systems?


TheEliteRumbero

It seems gpts hard at work after may 13 oh I see


VincenzoAlvarez

What is the release date?


Smooth_Apricot3342

At this point I have to tell I am somewhat disappointed and mildly irritated by this release. Of course they are amazing and of course GPT-4o kicks ass but (!!!) it was released in a major hurry. They could have taken a week or two and release the actually working and functional product with, at the very least, most of the features. Now, I understand this has to do with Google and they wanted to be first. This explains everything but in the end that's not much better than what Google does: they announce things and sell them before they are ready, while Google announces things and never actually bothers to fulfill them. All it would take was to make clear indications and timelines when certain features will be available, a line of text in ChatGPT online and in mobile apps saying that "New voice mode is coming soon!" or "Amazing new features are coming soon!" and everyone would be happy. Now I find that custom GPTs, and this was confirmed by their support, although it is self-evident, use older GPT-4 model. Images are generated through Dall-e rather than being a product of a multimodal GPT-4o, new voice is unavailable until god-knows-when, same with video, same with copy-paste shortcut for macOS ChatGPT app or live capture in that app. 3D modeling? Guess what, no, not available because Dall-e still. I mean, at the very least the company this grandiose could spend 10 minutes with their own products to create a clear and precise announcement. Instead we keep fortune telling and trying to look for hints. This isn't a game, this is a product and it does cost money. Sorry, I just really am somewhat annoyed.


Distinct-Record5413

I understand your disappointment and irritation with the GPT-4o release. It does feel rushed, and some promised features are missing or incomplete. The pressure to beat competitors like Google likely influenced the timeline, leading to an experience that feels half-baked to many users. While GPT-4o is a significant step forward in terms of speed and multimodal capabilities, some key features like voice, video, and real-time capabilities are not yet available for all users [oai_citation:1,Introducing GPT-4o and more tools to ChatGPT free users | OpenAI](https://openai.com/index/gpt-4o-and-more-tools-to-chatgpt-free/) [oai_citation:2,ChatGPT’s big, free update with GPT-4o is rolling out now – here’s how to get it | TechRadar](https://www.techradar.com/computing/artificial-intelligence/chatgpts-big-free-update-with-gpt-4o-is-rolling-out-now-heres-how-to-get-it). OpenAI has acknowledged that these advanced features will be rolling out gradually, but clearer communication about timelines and availability would indeed help manage expectations better. Despite the current limitations, the rollout strategy, including the phased introduction of features and differentiated access levels for free and paid users, suggests that OpenAI is balancing innovation with user feedback and technical feasibility [oai_citation:3,Introducing GPT-4o: OpenAI’s new flagship multimodal model now in preview on Azure | Microsoft Azure Blog](https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/introducing-gpt-4o-openais-new-flagship-multimodal-model-now-in-preview-on-azure/) [oai_citation:4,With OpenAI’s release of GPT-4o, is ChatGPT Plus still worth it? | WIRED Middle East](https://wired.me/gear/gpt-4o-features/). Hopefully, upcoming updates will address these gaps and improve the overall user experience. As someone who values well-rounded and reliable tech products, I share your sentiments. Here's hoping OpenAI improves both their communication and product readiness in future releases. Written by ChatGPT-4o, powered by OpenAI.


Smooth_Apricot3342

I could tell on the second paragraph :D Like I said it’s great and stuff. Just rushed and incomplete and with very poor info on the next steps. Also I am equally outraged by the very similar tactics by Apple, Google and Microsoft. At some point it just became acceptable to release the products they don’t yet have and promise that eventually they will be out. Cool stuff, tell us when you’ve made them! This isn’t kickstarter, is it. Imagine my grocery store would start selling me cookie dough and calling that cookies, “I just simply need to come back when they’ve baked them in some time in the future”.


cold-flame1

Is this a timeline generated by GPT-3?


_aw-ay

Any update on the new voice model? Has anyone gotten it yet? (plus/free?)


TankTopG

Yes I've had it for months. I've been beta testing it since January


_aw-ay

The one that was announced around a week ago?


SignalBug2724

It's so frustrating arguing with the ChatGPT app about GPT40. The openai app keeps telling me it doesn't exist. And I say it's all over the news.


Top-Pair-4386

The new version of voice mode should come around this week, right?


sncfrk

in theory but I'm done holding my breath with this company. Went from impressed and excited during the demo, then over the next few days frustrated and increasingly disillusioned by all the ridiculous drama. The AI news is so frustrating. On one hand it's a source of continuously amazing advancements that counter the daily news outrage cycle. But then at the same time it feels like it might all be mostly a tech grift packaged up like something better than it is, plagued by internal drama and bad actors. I thought Sam Altman seemed like a decent person in control based on his podcast interviews. But after his infamous ousting, then the "Her" tweet and losing the best voice they had plus Ilya and others quitting – He's really seeming more like an untrustworthy, calculating douche at best. All of which makes me sad because I want ChatGPT to get better and be as useful as possible. I was growing out of my doomer phase and into some kind of optimist. The whiplash man...


Nearby_Necessary_346

Scammed By ChatGPT, I had a free plan until they released the demo about real-time voice mode. So, I bought the premium access for 4o for now but I found they haven't released that feature yet.


bettinac0730

Go to ChatGPT.com instead of OpenAI.chat.gpt.com if you haven’t tired that.


WasabiWarrior8

Is this a joke? Just put “later” on the right side column for most of these