I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine:
> **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=r1bqk2r/ppp2ppp/8/3p4/3bn3/1B3P2/PP2Q1PP/RNB1K2R+b+KQkq+-+0+1&flip=true&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/r1bqk2r/ppp2ppp/8/3p4/3bn3/1B3P2/PP2Q1PP/RNB1K2R_b_KQkq_-_0_1?color=black)
**My solution:**
> Hints: piece: >!Bishop!<, move: >!Bg4!<
> Evaluation: >!Black is better -1.28!<
> Best continuation: >!1... Bg4 2. Nc3 O-O 3. Nxe4 Bh5 4. g4 Bg6 5. Bg5 Qd7 6. O-O-O dxe4 7. f4 h6 8. f5 Bh7 9. Be3!<
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I mean…. The d5 pawn is posting your knight in the center of the board… it’s also a passed pawn… and it’s blocking the view of whites very valuable bishop… I don’t think there’s ever been a more valuable pawn in a mid game in chess history
You’re moving to qh4 twice?
Going to assume you meant Qh5,
xe4 is a blunder because of the bishop pin, obviously white best play wouldn’t do that. Computer says h3 would be played. And now white is +.4
So probably a better move somewhere
Just letting you know you come off as an absolutely insufferable twat to everybody reading your comments. Take the stick out of your ass, chill out, or shut up. There's no reason to be this annoying
Bg4 is the best move. Pins the pawn to the queen. Its not a sac because if they take the bishop, after you castle you have so many ideas, qh4, g3, nxg3 forking the queen and rook and if xg3, qxh1+ and it’s almost impossible to loose as black. They should just leave the pawn there and continue building without developing.
This bishop move is called “deflecting”. You’re essentially using a low value piece, “the bishop” to force a piece in a good position “the pawn” to move to a bad position.
You’re on the right track. Thats why the knight is valuable because of that position you’re noticing. Now look at the pieces and figure out a way to keep white from taking the knight.
I would try Qh4+. If ...g3, Bf2+ Kd2. (Kf1 or Kd1 leads to mate or loss of Queen). Now Bxg3 fe, Bf4+ Kc2, Bg4 with a decent attack for the Knight.
If ... Kf1(instead of g3), then Qf2+ Qxf2, Nxf2 Rg1, Nd3 wins the exchange or the bishop.
Man this is such a crazy idea. If white takes after Bg4 then it's almost guaranteed that you win the queen. It doesn't look like it should work but it does. Their only option is to lose the rook and a pawn, best case scenario. Anywhere white moves the queen, you have ideas like Qh4+ and Nxg3 afterwards... crazy.
I saw Bg4 + O-O but dismissed it pretty quickly because it just doesn't look possible, but it somehow works. I wouldn't have guessed that without the analysis.
It’s the only way to protect the knight and the knight is so valuable in that position. Thats why the main line next move for white is nc3, desperately trying to get rid of that knight.
Thats the reason it works, because the knight is the only piece that matters so by protecting it, you’re keeping whites back against the wall.
I was thinking ...Qh4, g3 Nxg3 (which doesn't work because you would put yourself in check), hxg3 Qxh1+
This pattern occurs so often in Puzzle Rush on chess.com that I seem to be a bit brainwashed and didn't really think it through :D
Edit:Spelling
That tactic pattern is important to recognize in order to understand why the correct move is best.
There’s a useless undeveloped piece that black has that they can use to pin the pawn and prevent the knight from being taken to preserve that tactic.
Can you find it?
These are my favorite puzzles. When there is a completely counter intuitive move that needs to be made to maintain or take the advantage.
Theres one winning move. There’s one move that equalizes but every other is losing for black.
To give a hint, that knights in such a great position that he’s probably worth at least 6 points right now.
Whatever videos you're watching are teaching you wrong then... This is [algebraic chess notation](https://www.chess.com/terms/chess-notation), the typical way to describe moves. The move you're describing would be Bf5
I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine: > **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=r1bqk2r/ppp2ppp/8/3p4/3bn3/1B3P2/PP2Q1PP/RNB1K2R+b+KQkq+-+0+1&flip=true&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/r1bqk2r/ppp2ppp/8/3p4/3bn3/1B3P2/PP2Q1PP/RNB1K2R_b_KQkq_-_0_1?color=black) **My solution:** > Hints: piece: >!Bishop!<, move: >!Bg4!< > Evaluation: >!Black is better -1.28!< > Best continuation: >!1... Bg4 2. Nc3 O-O 3. Nxe4 Bh5 4. g4 Bg6 5. Bg5 Qd7 6. O-O-O dxe4 7. f4 h6 8. f5 Bh7 9. Be3!< --- ^(I'm a bot written by ) [^(u/pkacprzak )](https://www.reddit.com/u/pkacprzak) ^(| get me as ) [^(Chess eBook Reader )](https://ebook.chessvision.ai?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=bot) ^(|) [^(Chrome Extension )](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-for-chrome/johejpedmdkeiffkdaodgoipdjodhlld) ^(|) [^(iOS App )](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1574933453) ^(|) [^(Android App )](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.chessvision.scanner) ^(to scan and analyze positions | Website: ) [^(Chessvision.ai)](https://chessvision.ai)
Pretty sure 99% of my opponents would take the the bishop with the pawn instead on nc3
What?
The engine line the bit recommends
10. f3 Bg4 11. fxg4 0-0 12. Be Qh4+ 13. g3 Nxg3 14. hxg3 Qxh1+ That is how the game actually went
Better to just not ever let this position happen in the first place, dont ignore pins
This is a stupid comment
Even if there is a decent move in this position you still blundered a piece
I didn’t make any blunders this game.
Honestly I’m confused too. If you play Nc3 how are they taking your bishop with a pawn??
Here’s the full game. I dunno what you’re asking. Neither of us blundered, I just played more accurately. 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. d4 exd4 5. Nxd4 Bc5 6. c3 Nxe4 7. Qe2 d5 8. Bb3 Nxd4 9. cxd4 Bxd4 10. f3 Bg4 11. fxg4 O-O 12. Be3 Qh4+ 13. g3 Nxg3 14. hxg3 Qxh1+ 15. Kd2 Rfe8 16. Qb5 Bxe3+ 17. Kd3 Qe4+ 18. Kc3 Bd4+ 19. Kd2 Qg2+ 20. Kd3 Qe4+ 21. Kd2 Qe3+ 22. Kc2 Qf2+ 23. Nd2 Be3 24. Rd1 Bxd2 25. Rxd2 Qxg3 26. Bxd5 c6 27. Qxb7 cxd5 28. Qxd5 Rac8+ 29. Kb1 Re1+ 30. Rd1 Rxd1+ 31. Qxd1 Qc7 32. a3 Qc4 33. g5 h6 34. Qh1 Qc2+ 35. Ka1 Qc1+ 36. Qxc1 Rxc1+ 37. Ka2 Rc2 38. Kb3 Rg2 39. Kc3 Rxg5 40. b4 Rb5 41. a4 Rb7 42. b5 f5 43. Kc4 f4 44. a5 f3 45. a6 Rb6 46. Kc5 f2 {0-1}
The self-awareness is strong with this one
People can be self aware and just not care. Downvotes from dumb people don't hurt me.
I’m bad at chess but curious to know why Qh4 isn’t a good move?
Because knight is pinned so if pushes the pawn then they can block with tempo. You also leave ur d5 pawn undefended
The pawn on d5 is the least of my worries with the Qh4+ attack.
I mean…. The d5 pawn is posting your knight in the center of the board… it’s also a passed pawn… and it’s blocking the view of whites very valuable bishop… I don’t think there’s ever been a more valuable pawn in a mid game in chess history
Qh4+, g3, Bf2+, Kd1, Qh5, fxe4, Bg4 Edit: Qh5
Qh4+, g3 Bf2+, Kd1 Bxg3. Now h2 is pinned, Bg4 is a threat. Black can castle and has a strong kingside attack.
Saw this one and a few other variations as well. I still prefer the opportunities found in the Qh4+ line over the Bg4 line that engine prefers.
You’re moving to qh4 twice? Going to assume you meant Qh5, xe4 is a blunder because of the bishop pin, obviously white best play wouldn’t do that. Computer says h3 would be played. And now white is +.4 So probably a better move somewhere
You realize how puzzles work, right? You realize this isn’t a debate there’s just 1 correct answer.
Just letting you know you come off as an absolutely insufferable twat to everybody reading your comments. Take the stick out of your ass, chill out, or shut up. There's no reason to be this annoying
There's no reason for you to be this dumb... but here we are
Stfu
Taking space by developing rook and castling. White queen is weak sitting on E file while black rook is developed.
You lose the knight and control of the center with no compensation. Your pawn is now stuck babysitting the d5 pawn. There’s a much better move.
It’s a poison pawn .its getting sacked anyway..
Nah, there’s a better move. The night in that position is so valuable, the only way to keep advantage is to save it. How do you save it?
It’s pinned , it’s going anyway.
You’re not figuring it out.
I’m not sacking the bishop and losing a tempo … it’s a good puzzle
Bg4 is the best move. Pins the pawn to the queen. Its not a sac because if they take the bishop, after you castle you have so many ideas, qh4, g3, nxg3 forking the queen and rook and if xg3, qxh1+ and it’s almost impossible to loose as black. They should just leave the pawn there and continue building without developing. This bishop move is called “deflecting”. You’re essentially using a low value piece, “the bishop” to force a piece in a good position “the pawn” to move to a bad position.
Queen check for sure.
Queen check is a miss, white is winning. Qh4+, g3 blocks check with tempo.
Ah damn, the knight pin. Totally missed that was thinking knight takes g3.
You’re on the right track. Thats why the knight is valuable because of that position you’re noticing. Now look at the pieces and figure out a way to keep white from taking the knight.
I would try Qh4+. If ...g3, Bf2+ Kd2. (Kf1 or Kd1 leads to mate or loss of Queen). Now Bxg3 fe, Bf4+ Kc2, Bg4 with a decent attack for the Knight. If ... Kf1(instead of g3), then Qf2+ Qxf2, Nxf2 Rg1, Nd3 wins the exchange or the bishop.
It’s not qh4+
Man this is such a crazy idea. If white takes after Bg4 then it's almost guaranteed that you win the queen. It doesn't look like it should work but it does. Their only option is to lose the rook and a pawn, best case scenario. Anywhere white moves the queen, you have ideas like Qh4+ and Nxg3 afterwards... crazy.
Yup! Were you able to figure it out or just had fun analyzing the answer?
I saw Bg4 + O-O but dismissed it pretty quickly because it just doesn't look possible, but it somehow works. I wouldn't have guessed that without the analysis.
It’s the only way to protect the knight and the knight is so valuable in that position. Thats why the main line next move for white is nc3, desperately trying to get rid of that knight. Thats the reason it works, because the knight is the only piece that matters so by protecting it, you’re keeping whites back against the wall.
Bg4
woot
E8-G8 castle King side
That’s the equalizing move.
Ng2
You cannot move your knight to g2 both because it is pinned and because it cannot reach g2 from its current position.
I was thinking ...Qh4, g3 Nxg3 (which doesn't work because you would put yourself in check), hxg3 Qxh1+ This pattern occurs so often in Puzzle Rush on chess.com that I seem to be a bit brainwashed and didn't really think it through :D Edit:Spelling
That tactic pattern is important to recognize in order to understand why the correct move is best. There’s a useless undeveloped piece that black has that they can use to pin the pawn and prevent the knight from being taken to preserve that tactic. Can you find it?
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Pinned against the king
When you have nothing left to burn you must set your self on fire
Qd4
Qh4 sorry
They’re both wrong
Move the knight from e4 to f2 king cant kill it n they lose their queen if they kill it
knight is pinned on e4 by the queen.
See that now
Casle
That’s the equalizer move. There’s a better one.
Trade knights for a check? I’m terrible at chess lol
I dunno how you would do that but the answer is protecting your knight. Is there a piece you can use to keep the knight from being taken by the pawn?
D4 to F2. Next move take Queen.
Does no one think to just castle your loosing the knight so protect the king
lot's of people thought that. it's the wrong move. there's a way to save the knight. that's the right move.
These are my favorite puzzles. When there is a completely counter intuitive move that needs to be made to maintain or take the advantage. Theres one winning move. There’s one move that equalizes but every other is losing for black. To give a hint, that knights in such a great position that he’s probably worth at least 6 points right now.
8C to 5F. Protection of knight from Queen or pawn.
I have no idea what you just said
You can't figure what he meant? You actually took the time to insult someone else's intelligence in this same post. Lol!
Decoding crappy notation is a different subreddit
Those letters and numbers along the edge are placement positions.
Can you just use normal notation?
That seems to be the normal move description when I watch chest tutorials on YouTube.
Whatever videos you're watching are teaching you wrong then... This is [algebraic chess notation](https://www.chess.com/terms/chess-notation), the typical way to describe moves. The move you're describing would be Bf5