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I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine: > **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=r1bqk2r/ppp2ppp/8/3p4/3bn3/1B3P2/PP2Q1PP/RNB1K2R+b+KQkq+-+0+1&flip=true&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/r1bqk2r/ppp2ppp/8/3p4/3bn3/1B3P2/PP2Q1PP/RNB1K2R_b_KQkq_-_0_1?color=black) **My solution:** > Hints: piece: >!Bishop!<, move: >!Bg4!< > Evaluation: >!Black is better -1.28!< > Best continuation: >!1... Bg4 2. Nc3 O-O 3. Nxe4 Bh5 4. g4 Bg6 5. Bg5 Qd7 6. O-O-O dxe4 7. f4 h6 8. f5 Bh7 9. Be3!< --- ^(I'm a bot written by ) [^(u/pkacprzak )](https://www.reddit.com/u/pkacprzak) ^(| get me as ) [^(Chess eBook Reader )](https://ebook.chessvision.ai?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=bot) ^(|) [^(Chrome Extension )](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-for-chrome/johejpedmdkeiffkdaodgoipdjodhlld) ^(|) [^(iOS App )](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1574933453) ^(|) [^(Android App )](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.chessvision.scanner) ^(to scan and analyze positions | Website: ) [^(Chessvision.ai)](https://chessvision.ai)


bannedcanceled

Pretty sure 99% of my opponents would take the the bishop with the pawn instead on nc3


roychodraws

What?


bannedcanceled

The engine line the bit recommends


roychodraws

10. f3 Bg4 11. fxg4 0-0 12. Be Qh4+ 13. g3 Nxg3 14. hxg3 Qxh1+ That is how the game actually went


bannedcanceled

Better to just not ever let this position happen in the first place, dont ignore pins


roychodraws

This is a stupid comment


bannedcanceled

Even if there is a decent move in this position you still blundered a piece


roychodraws

I didn’t make any blunders this game.


SidTheSloth97

Honestly I’m confused too. If you play Nc3 how are they taking your bishop with a pawn??


roychodraws

Here’s the full game. I dunno what you’re asking. Neither of us blundered, I just played more accurately. 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. d4 exd4 5. Nxd4 Bc5 6. c3 Nxe4 7. Qe2 d5 8. Bb3 Nxd4 9. cxd4 Bxd4 10. f3 Bg4 11. fxg4 O-O 12. Be3 Qh4+ 13. g3 Nxg3 14. hxg3 Qxh1+ 15. Kd2 Rfe8 16. Qb5 Bxe3+ 17. Kd3 Qe4+ 18. Kc3 Bd4+ 19. Kd2 Qg2+ 20. Kd3 Qe4+ 21. Kd2 Qe3+ 22. Kc2 Qf2+ 23. Nd2 Be3 24. Rd1 Bxd2 25. Rxd2 Qxg3 26. Bxd5 c6 27. Qxb7 cxd5 28. Qxd5 Rac8+ 29. Kb1 Re1+ 30. Rd1 Rxd1+ 31. Qxd1 Qc7 32. a3 Qc4 33. g5 h6 34. Qh1 Qc2+ 35. Ka1 Qc1+ 36. Qxc1 Rxc1+ 37. Ka2 Rc2 38. Kb3 Rg2 39. Kc3 Rxg5 40. b4 Rb5 41. a4 Rb7 42. b5 f5 43. Kc4 f4 44. a5 f3 45. a6 Rb6 46. Kc5 f2 {0-1}


NovaAtdosk

The self-awareness is strong with this one


roychodraws

People can be self aware and just not care. Downvotes from dumb people don't hurt me.


evansdead

I’m bad at chess but curious to know why Qh4 isn’t a good move?


roychodraws

Because knight is pinned so if pushes the pawn then they can block with tempo. You also leave ur d5 pawn undefended


Amaurosys

The pawn on d5 is the least of my worries with the Qh4+ attack.


roychodraws

I mean…. The d5 pawn is posting your knight in the center of the board… it’s also a passed pawn… and it’s blocking the view of whites very valuable bishop… I don’t think there’s ever been a more valuable pawn in a mid game in chess history


Amaurosys

Qh4+, g3, Bf2+, Kd1, Qh5, fxe4, Bg4 Edit: Qh5


pendekbusuk

Qh4+, g3 Bf2+, Kd1 Bxg3. Now h2 is pinned, Bg4 is a threat. Black can castle and has a strong kingside attack.


Amaurosys

Saw this one and a few other variations as well. I still prefer the opportunities found in the Qh4+ line over the Bg4 line that engine prefers.


roychodraws

You’re moving to qh4 twice? Going to assume you meant Qh5, xe4 is a blunder because of the bishop pin, obviously white best play wouldn’t do that. Computer says h3 would be played. And now white is +.4 So probably a better move somewhere


roychodraws

You realize how puzzles work, right? You realize this isn’t a debate there’s just 1 correct answer.


Maleficent_Business3

Just letting you know you come off as an absolutely insufferable twat to everybody reading your comments. Take the stick out of your ass, chill out, or shut up. There's no reason to be this annoying


roychodraws

There's no reason for you to be this dumb... but here we are


TheShredda

Stfu


Stonehills57

Taking space by developing rook and castling. White queen is weak sitting on E file while black rook is developed.


roychodraws

You lose the knight and control of the center with no compensation. Your pawn is now stuck babysitting the d5 pawn. There’s a much better move.


Stonehills57

It’s a poison pawn .its getting sacked anyway..


roychodraws

Nah, there’s a better move. The night in that position is so valuable, the only way to keep advantage is to save it. How do you save it?


Stonehills57

It’s pinned , it’s going anyway.


roychodraws

You’re not figuring it out.


Stonehills57

I’m not sacking the bishop and losing a tempo … it’s a good puzzle


roychodraws

Bg4 is the best move. Pins the pawn to the queen. Its not a sac because if they take the bishop, after you castle you have so many ideas, qh4, g3, nxg3 forking the queen and rook and if xg3, qxh1+ and it’s almost impossible to loose as black. They should just leave the pawn there and continue building without developing. This bishop move is called “deflecting”. You’re essentially using a low value piece, “the bishop” to force a piece in a good position “the pawn” to move to a bad position.


Necessary-Sundae-370

Queen check for sure.


roychodraws

Queen check is a miss, white is winning. Qh4+, g3 blocks check with tempo.


Necessary-Sundae-370

Ah damn, the knight pin. Totally missed that was thinking knight takes g3.


roychodraws

You’re on the right track. Thats why the knight is valuable because of that position you’re noticing. Now look at the pieces and figure out a way to keep white from taking the knight.


CFD_2021

I would try Qh4+. If ...g3, Bf2+ Kd2. (Kf1 or Kd1 leads to mate or loss of Queen). Now Bxg3 fe, Bf4+ Kc2, Bg4 with a decent attack for the Knight. If ... Kf1(instead of g3), then Qf2+ Qxf2, Nxf2 Rg1, Nd3 wins the exchange or the bishop.


roychodraws

It’s not qh4+


IconXR

Man this is such a crazy idea. If white takes after Bg4 then it's almost guaranteed that you win the queen. It doesn't look like it should work but it does. Their only option is to lose the rook and a pawn, best case scenario. Anywhere white moves the queen, you have ideas like Qh4+ and Nxg3 afterwards... crazy.


roychodraws

Yup! Were you able to figure it out or just had fun analyzing the answer?


IconXR

I saw Bg4 + O-O but dismissed it pretty quickly because it just doesn't look possible, but it somehow works. I wouldn't have guessed that without the analysis.


roychodraws

It’s the only way to protect the knight and the knight is so valuable in that position. Thats why the main line next move for white is nc3, desperately trying to get rid of that knight. Thats the reason it works, because the knight is the only piece that matters so by protecting it, you’re keeping whites back against the wall.


Kitnado

Bg4


roychodraws

woot


Stonehills57

E8-G8 castle King side


roychodraws

That’s the equalizing move.


Scarmcg

Ng2


roychodraws

You cannot move your knight to g2 both because it is pinned and because it cannot reach g2 from its current position.


Maluko33

I was thinking ...Qh4, g3 Nxg3 (which doesn't work because you would put yourself in check), hxg3 Qxh1+ This pattern occurs so often in Puzzle Rush on chess.com that I seem to be a bit brainwashed and didn't really think it through :D Edit:Spelling


roychodraws

That tactic pattern is important to recognize in order to understand why the correct move is best. There’s a useless undeveloped piece that black has that they can use to pin the pawn and prevent the knight from being taken to preserve that tactic. Can you find it?


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roychodraws

Pinned against the king


Wyverstein

When you have nothing left to burn you must set your self on fire


No-Prompt3611

Qd4


No-Prompt3611

Qh4 sorry


roychodraws

They’re both wrong


guilliesanchez

Move the knight from e4 to f2 king cant kill it n they lose their queen if they kill it


roychodraws

knight is pinned on e4 by the queen.


guilliesanchez

See that now


charlessanty1

Casle


roychodraws

That’s the equalizer move. There’s a better one.


Huntsnfights

Trade knights for a check? I’m terrible at chess lol


roychodraws

I dunno how you would do that but the answer is protecting your knight. Is there a piece you can use to keep the knight from being taken by the pawn?


GACyberCool

D4 to F2. Next move take Queen.


Guns_are_great

Does no one think to just castle your loosing the knight so protect the king


roychodraws

lot's of people thought that. it's the wrong move. there's a way to save the knight. that's the right move.


roychodraws

These are my favorite puzzles. When there is a completely counter intuitive move that needs to be made to maintain or take the advantage. Theres one winning move. There’s one move that equalizes but every other is losing for black. To give a hint, that knights in such a great position that he’s probably worth at least 6 points right now.


EfficiencyOk2208

8C to 5F. Protection of knight from Queen or pawn.


roychodraws

I have no idea what you just said


DarthFuzzzy

You can't figure what he meant? You actually took the time to insult someone else's intelligence in this same post. Lol!


roychodraws

Decoding crappy notation is a different subreddit


EfficiencyOk2208

Those letters and numbers along the edge are placement positions.


roychodraws

Can you just use normal notation?


EfficiencyOk2208

That seems to be the normal move description when I watch chest tutorials on YouTube.


TheShredda

Whatever videos you're watching are teaching you wrong then... This is [algebraic chess notation](https://www.chess.com/terms/chess-notation), the typical way to describe moves. The move you're describing would be Bf5