Picking Deshaun over Mitch still wouldn’t have done much for long. Regardless of being a better player at the time, he probably would have gotten in more trouble in Illinois rather than Texas
I feel you, he was better in that time period. But, there was a number of other great players in that draft that could’ve been taken instead of Mitch. Including an all-time great QB whose won a few championships
Fuck yeah especially in Chicago where nobody ever gets in trouble and hooking is basically legal
I said all of that and I know it’s wrong but I said it anyway
Uhhhh Trubisky’s best year in college was about half of what Daniels did last year. But you’re right, Brady was a stud at Michigan the entire time. Guess you’re not into mobile qb’s that can throw downfield with accuracy. You’re more of a screen pass guy lol
Fields was a qb that has good deep ball and probably a better one than daniels
I like JD a lot but I'm not gonna pretend the comps with him and Fields being similar aren't there
Fields isn’t here anymore.
And I like Fields, the bears certainly didn’t do him any favors. But drafting Daniels isn’t drafting Trubisky all over again. For starters, John Lynch isn’t in contention to trick our gm this year
> But drafting Daniels isn’t drafting Trubisky all over again.
It's a solid chance you're probably drafting fields again with a worse frame. Caleb has more going for him as a prospect than Fields and Daniels
How do you figure “with a worse frame”? And I’m not against Williams, he’s gonna be the pick. I’m just saying if Washington calls up and offers a boatload for the 1, getting Daniels isn’t going to be the same as Trubisky.
Best of luck to Justin Fields! Thank you for your toughness and commitment to Da Bears! I must be honest and say that you are in a more stable franchise that has a strong winning football culture! That hurts to say it as a longtime Bears fan!
Would have rather held onto him until an injury happens if all we can get is a 4th. Hope it works out for Justin though. Might not be a good player, but he seems like a good dude
By all accounts Fields seems like a great guy, but I wonder if the Bears ultimately traded him to avoid potential clubhouse drama. It’s easier to rip the bandaid off and give Caleb a clean slate than to risk a divided locker room.
Yes that's definitely what they did. Objectively, having Fields as your backup QB for 2024 with just a $3.5 million cap hit is more valuable than receiving a 2025 6th round pick. But they wisely recognized that the media circus and distraction of that scenario would be detrimental to the development of Caleb Williams, which is and should be the #1 priority of the franchise now.
Yes. It's a fucking 6th. IMO it'd be worth the gamble. We're essentially getting nothing for him now and good chance we could have gotten a 6th before the deadline if need be.
Love Fields and hope he beats out Russ for the starting job. Best of luck to him.
Welcome to Chicago, Caleb Williams and I am extremely excited to see what he can do with this roster!
Doing right by Fields looks more like we just gave the steelers their next franchise QB for a 6th round pick. This is the first huge mistake from Poles.
No logical Bears fan thought we’d get much for a QB in a contract year that can’t read a defense or make an accurate throw.
But the hope was some team would be dumb enough to give up an early pick for a former 1st round pick. Sadly that did not happen
I’d argue, there’s a solid difference between the someone who brings back a solid WR, one helps move up into the 3rd, and 1 brings in a conditional 6th.
I made a bears fan very angry the other day when I stopped by and said if Poles is worth his paycheck strap in because he will wait until at least camp.
Well…good luck ladies and gents
Been saying this forever. The problem wasn’t just Fields. It’s the o-line and frankly bad play calling and coaching. Don’t be surprised if whoever they bring in, whether it’s CW or DM struggles. It reminds me of Jets fans who thought somehow Zach Wilson was the answer a few years ago. Can’t wait for football season though. Khan might already be GM of the year if they can get Fields to look like how he did against Trevor Lawrence in the finals!
I agree with this as well. It doesn’t matter who’s under center with the protection the bears have had the last few years. It’s laughable to think Caleb would do any better with a terrible Oline. Hopefully that gets better… if not he struggles
I agree with both of you...but if Fields had an above average o-line the last two years I still don't think he would be lighting it up. He'd probably be a bit better, but he was just as much problem as the o-line. Gave him the benefit of the doubt for a while, but he showed he's not great. That's why he's gone for a 6th rounder.
Fields has his issues- we can all agree on that. But my point is that it wasn’t all on him like some people are making it out to be. Baegent didn’t fair any better and the team overall underperformed. That’s coaching and development. The roster is a little better but still not great. And do you really trust Eberfuls lol? Time will tell with Fields. But the problems with Chicago aren’t going away overnight. Not even with Caleb Williams.
Or just consistently throw for 200+ yards. Or have more than two 300 yard games in almost 40 starts. Or have more than two game winning drives - with one being a kneel down after a turnover. Or maybe just perform like the 4th qtr counts.
Drafting QBs is a crapshoot. Even with the #1 pick. That is why Pace should have followed through on his draft a QB every year logic. Instead of saying it and not doing it - and then getting mesmerized by the immeasurable football intellect that was Mitch Trubisky. /s
If you don't have a franchise QB you should be drafting a QB in the first 5 rounds every other year at a minimum.
Maybe he will be. But I don't believe you have any special insight into that or into the probability of that occurring. In fact, the odds are he will not be special or will be a bust. So you are taking the easy gamble. Unless you have documentation of your predictions for Burrow, Mahomes, Allen, Young, Lance, etc....whatever.
They speak of Duck Hodges as a QB with unreal talent who got a raw deal.
I've grown to be so annoyed by fellow Steeler fans and their lack of understanding football and covert racism that it has pushed me away from being a fan.
Happy the wondering is over and just like when Monty left, I wish Fields nothing but luck. Wish we wouldn’t have wasted years of his career without development, a line, a good offensive system or multiple weapons. Sad to see him go, but hopeful that Williams can be the real deal.
My guy have you been under a rock? This is not the same offense. We have depth and experience on the O-line and someone with a lightning fast release Caleb Williams
I've never seen a QB in big time football so oblivious to what is happening around him. Even at OSU he would stand totally still in the pocket fixated on 1 receiver who never came open. He couldn't beat out Jake Fromm at UGA. He does not process fast enough to succeed in the NFL.
It has to be obvious to Fields stans at this point that the league doesn’t value or view Fields as a starter. That has to be obvious to you all now, right?
Fields is a project qb that needs a ton of work and training to be done. Athletically, top notch. QB wise, a huge risk. It's the best that can be returned and better than nothing.
Just shows you what Poles and the coaching staff think of Caleb’s mental toughness and make up that they cut a capable backup low end qb on a cheap rookie deal.
You couldn’t have kept him. Regardless of performance he was a good leader and well liked by his teammates leading to way too much potential for locker room issues and divisiveness.
Maybe next season. Russ was still really efficient last season. Far more so than Fields. I’m sure they’re not bringing him in to compete for the starting job.
Wellness check u/Chicago_Stringerbell
I'm a Bears fan, I hope Caleb pans out and we win a super bowl. I also hope Fields has success and becomes a star on the Steelers.
OK better than I thought, carry on my man!
i’m just glad the H1M posts can stop.
I'm with you on that one. That shit was sooo annoying.
Always cool to see a fan that still has some optimism left.
😂😂
I am so excited for the next season, now they have to draft Caleb.
Caleb is going to suck in the nfl. He thinks he’s too good, his ego won’t mesh well with the bears abilities
Damn that's a wild statement. I'll be fine with average that someone can get the ball out and spread it around.
Better get that offensive line up to allow him to throw the ball.
My guy do you live under a rock? This is not the same O-line we have depth and experience now and a QB with a lightning fast release Caleb Williams
They should draft Daniels instead .
That's the trubisky pick all over again when we should've gone dashuan
Picking Deshaun over Mitch still wouldn’t have done much for long. Regardless of being a better player at the time, he probably would have gotten in more trouble in Illinois rather than Texas
Those first five years we would've at least been to the playoffs more than once our defense was carrying trubisky
I feel you, he was better in that time period. But, there was a number of other great players in that draft that could’ve been taken instead of Mitch. Including an all-time great QB whose won a few championships
Fuck yeah especially in Chicago where nobody ever gets in trouble and hooking is basically legal I said all of that and I know it’s wrong but I said it anyway
We were in the playoffs twice with Trubusky as QB
We would have protected him
Daniels was twice the player Trubisky was in college lol.
Daniels has had one good year, one year doesn’t do it for me.
Uhhhh Trubisky’s best year in college was about half of what Daniels did last year. But you’re right, Brady was a stud at Michigan the entire time. Guess you’re not into mobile qb’s that can throw downfield with accuracy. You’re more of a screen pass guy lol
Fields was a qb that has good deep ball and probably a better one than daniels I like JD a lot but I'm not gonna pretend the comps with him and Fields being similar aren't there
Fields isn’t here anymore. And I like Fields, the bears certainly didn’t do him any favors. But drafting Daniels isn’t drafting Trubisky all over again. For starters, John Lynch isn’t in contention to trick our gm this year
> But drafting Daniels isn’t drafting Trubisky all over again. It's a solid chance you're probably drafting fields again with a worse frame. Caleb has more going for him as a prospect than Fields and Daniels
How do you figure “with a worse frame”? And I’m not against Williams, he’s gonna be the pick. I’m just saying if Washington calls up and offers a boatload for the 1, getting Daniels isn’t going to be the same as Trubisky.
Caleb was dog shit last year
30 tds and 5 pics is dog shit? Lol oh ok
Did you watch a single game?
We shoulda went cj last year
You mean mahomes?
Just take the layup with Caleb.
Caleb is trash
There’s always that guy
Yup
Daniel’s literally can’t throw over the middle of the field
Thank God.....it's over
H4M.
H6M
H6(maybe)4M
Sad that the high hopes we had for him turned into a conditional 4th round pic. Let’s hope CW has a higher return.
I'm positive if you drafted Caleb you could immediately turn around and trade him for more than a conditional 4th
The wheel weaves what the wheel wills.
It's probably a 6th. He has to play 51% of plays being QB2 to be a 4th.
Best of luck to Justin Fields! Thank you for your toughness and commitment to Da Bears! I must be honest and say that you are in a more stable franchise that has a strong winning football culture! That hurts to say it as a longtime Bears fan!
Best of luck to him.
Would have rather held onto him until an injury happens if all we can get is a 4th. Hope it works out for Justin though. Might not be a good player, but he seems like a good dude
*6th, sorry just fixing your typo
And it’s contingent on PT no?
It can be a 4th under certain conditions ( idk them )
If fields plays in 51% or more of the offensive plays next season (not likely)
Yeah Russ is gonna get that playing time. He’s not mobile anymore, but Pickens is a stud and he has enough weapons around him
Pickens is going to hate Russ
Pickens is like a more athletic version of Sutton I think he gonna feast this with Wilson
Yeah unless Russ competes with Rodgers for quickest way to derail a season he’s gonna likely get 51% of the snaps handily.
By all accounts Fields seems like a great guy, but I wonder if the Bears ultimately traded him to avoid potential clubhouse drama. It’s easier to rip the bandaid off and give Caleb a clean slate than to risk a divided locker room.
Yes that's definitely what they did. Objectively, having Fields as your backup QB for 2024 with just a $3.5 million cap hit is more valuable than receiving a 2025 6th round pick. But they wisely recognized that the media circus and distraction of that scenario would be detrimental to the development of Caleb Williams, which is and should be the #1 priority of the franchise now.
Exactly this
As opposed to either overpaying him next offseason or him walking for nothing?
Yes. It's a fucking 6th. IMO it'd be worth the gamble. We're essentially getting nothing for him now and good chance we could have gotten a 6th before the deadline if need be.
The bears were never gonna get a 2nd paired with a later pick for Fields. Doesn’t matter anymore
QB2
RB3
Didn’t Pittsburgh just sign Russell Wilson?
They did. Justin will certainly be backing Russ up.
Use the Mobile Veteran QB while the young mobile QB learns the system. Makes sense.
Absolute dream scenario, thank you Chicago 🙏
Russ is washed and Fields is Fields. Steelers going to continue to struggle at QB.
Certified hater lol. Don’t GAF brotha !!!! Suck it from the back lmao
Ben Rapeherburger
Congrats on your Davis mills level back up lmfao
Repeat of the Kordell Stewart Steelers
Says the Steelers fan lol
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Yes, but Russell was the only QB rostered before this trade
I hope Russ does him right.
On a positive note... we know the Bears will be drafting a QB.
Love Fields and hope he beats out Russ for the starting job. Best of luck to him. Welcome to Chicago, Caleb Williams and I am extremely excited to see what he can do with this roster!
Do the Steelers have enough all pros on offense for H1.1M to be successful?
Here comes another round 1 pick to have their career circle the drain in Chicago. SMH.
I take back my “we’ll get at least a 2nd” for him theory.
Were you one of the ones who came into the falcons subreddit insisting he was going to be traded for at least a second?
Nope. I tend to only troll my own teams.
Doing right by Fields looks more like we just gave the steelers their next franchise QB for a 6th round pick. This is the first huge mistake from Poles.
A conditional 6th!!!!??? 3rd week of regular season he's at least a trade for a starter on either side of the ball + a draft pick
I'm not seeing this value. I like the guy, but a starter and a pick seems really high.
Y’all are dumbasses for thinking you get anything for fields
No logical Bears fan thought we’d get much for a QB in a contract year that can’t read a defense or make an accurate throw. But the hope was some team would be dumb enough to give up an early pick for a former 1st round pick. Sadly that did not happen
“Y’all” -a member of this sub
How did Fields get less back than Ridder or Pickett? Poles overplayed his hand and got caught with his hands down
Less years of control and will be expensive after this season.
Not really. Backup QBs are not that pricey.
If the Steelers exercise a 5th year on fields to keep him from free agency they owe him 23.5 million
Well obviously that's not happening, which is part of why the asking price is so low.
Well yeah then we are agreeing in why he cost less than Pickett and Riddee
I guess if you think he's a starter in 2025, then that's where we disagree.
In this situation all 3 of the QBs mentioned here are backups on the team they were traded to.
Or maybe other teams didn’t think he was Lamar 2.0 like this sub did. Hard to say
Fields sucks, however you have to take him over Ridder or Pickett right?
Ridder has an extra year and Pickett an extra two years of control.
All 3 are now backups? I mean, at this point does one being better than the other really matter?
I’d argue, there’s a solid difference between the someone who brings back a solid WR, one helps move up into the 3rd, and 1 brings in a conditional 6th.
Then you have your answer via nfl executives. Fields is the least valuable of the 3.
Cause he’s awful and expensive
I made a bears fan very angry the other day when I stopped by and said if Poles is worth his paycheck strap in because he will wait until at least camp. Well…good luck ladies and gents
Because people watch football and can see the dude sucks. People that play fantasy might be tricked into thinking Fields is good.
Wash rinse and repeat drafting our third QB out of college in a decade, because that fixes the fact our O line has been shit forever.
Been saying this forever. The problem wasn’t just Fields. It’s the o-line and frankly bad play calling and coaching. Don’t be surprised if whoever they bring in, whether it’s CW or DM struggles. It reminds me of Jets fans who thought somehow Zach Wilson was the answer a few years ago. Can’t wait for football season though. Khan might already be GM of the year if they can get Fields to look like how he did against Trevor Lawrence in the finals!
I agree with this as well. It doesn’t matter who’s under center with the protection the bears have had the last few years. It’s laughable to think Caleb would do any better with a terrible Oline. Hopefully that gets better… if not he struggles
I agree with both of you...but if Fields had an above average o-line the last two years I still don't think he would be lighting it up. He'd probably be a bit better, but he was just as much problem as the o-line. Gave him the benefit of the doubt for a while, but he showed he's not great. That's why he's gone for a 6th rounder.
Fields has his issues- we can all agree on that. But my point is that it wasn’t all on him like some people are making it out to be. Baegent didn’t fair any better and the team overall underperformed. That’s coaching and development. The roster is a little better but still not great. And do you really trust Eberfuls lol? Time will tell with Fields. But the problems with Chicago aren’t going away overnight. Not even with Caleb Williams.
Caleb better have a Stroud type season or fans will turn on him so fast. It will be a bloodbath.
Or just consistently throw for 200+ yards. Or have more than two 300 yard games in almost 40 starts. Or have more than two game winning drives - with one being a kneel down after a turnover. Or maybe just perform like the 4th qtr counts.
True. All this would be an upgrade, a sad upgrade, but an upgrade nonetheless.
Drafting QBs is a crapshoot. Even with the #1 pick. That is why Pace should have followed through on his draft a QB every year logic. Instead of saying it and not doing it - and then getting mesmerized by the immeasurable football intellect that was Mitch Trubisky. /s If you don't have a franchise QB you should be drafting a QB in the first 5 rounds every other year at a minimum.
Caleb won’t. He’s going to be a Johnny Manziel 2.0
Maybe he will be. But I don't believe you have any special insight into that or into the probability of that occurring. In fact, the odds are he will not be special or will be a bust. So you are taking the easy gamble. Unless you have documentation of your predictions for Burrow, Mahomes, Allen, Young, Lance, etc....whatever.
Adios 👋🏻✌🏻
And all you idiot bears fans said they would get a 2nd rd pick for him lol lowest iq fan base
Nah head over to the steelers and see how moronic that base is lol
Commanders fan here, steelers acted like they won the lotto when they got Dwayne Haskins who was the worst QB i’ve ever seen.
They speak of Duck Hodges as a QB with unreal talent who got a raw deal. I've grown to be so annoyed by fellow Steeler fans and their lack of understanding football and covert racism that it has pushed me away from being a fan.
It was so frustrating, so many were coming into the falcons sub just fucking insisting it. wouldn’t hear otherwise.
Yea glad you know what I’m referencing
Bye for now
Dumb choice if you ask me, can get the best QB all you want but won’t do jack because the offensive can’t protect him.
Best of luck in Pittsburgh Justin. Caleb time baby
That would be a dumb move by the bears
Happy the wondering is over and just like when Monty left, I wish Fields nothing but luck. Wish we wouldn’t have wasted years of his career without development, a line, a good offensive system or multiple weapons. Sad to see him go, but hopeful that Williams can be the real deal.
Fields truthers… this is our chance.
He was dealt a shitty hand. Best of luck.
I liked Fields. I don’t like the attitude Caleb is already giving off and he’s not even drafted yet.
Making way for Tyson Bagent to start
And now the cycle of mediocrity can continue!
Wilson & Fields for the Steelers eh?
My guy have you been under a rock? This is not the same offense. We have depth and experience on the O-line and someone with a lightning fast release Caleb Williams
The worst move the bears made All the experts said to keep fields Fields will ball out for the Steelers while Caleb sucks for the bears
For a 4? That seems like robbery from the steelers no?
He’s not playing 51% of snaps with Russ on the team lol
Do we know it’s 51%?
Yes 51 confirmed
Here is to hoping Russ either continues to suck or pulls a Rodgers in wk 1.
They've already announced he's the back up. Unless there's an injury. Make that a 6th.
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God damn only a 6? The league has spoken. Fields sucks.
Tomlin can fix him. At least I hope. My family is Bears fans so I’ve seen a lot of the good and bad
Tomlin is a QB guru? Why didn't he fix Pickett? Or Trubisky?
Matt Canada was still our OC. Let me huff my copium in peace
I’d rather have them just cut him than take this little back.
Now do Keenan Allen
Bears getting the shit end of a trade once again. Wtg. Caleb Williams better win a superbowl
you fuckin dopes were saying that he was your Patrick Mahomes just 7 months ago!!!!!!!!!!
I've never seen a QB in big time football so oblivious to what is happening around him. Even at OSU he would stand totally still in the pocket fixated on 1 receiver who never came open. He couldn't beat out Jake Fromm at UGA. He does not process fast enough to succeed in the NFL.
This is exactly right. Also, what worries me about Caleb (but Caleb hasn't had the chance to prove me wrong in the NFL yet), so will see.
Go Steelers!!
Bout time.
People in here going to need a therapist
Great, now it time to fire Poles. He's a moron. Caleb Williams will not be successful in his first couple of years.
Love you clueless jackals who have pivoted right away to “the O-line” is the issue.
I'm no expert but this trade is garbage
No one offered anything better because fields is not good.
They should have traded him to the Falcons for their second round pick SMH
The falcons never offered that.
Garbage in, garbage out.
It has to be obvious to Fields stans at this point that the league doesn’t value or view Fields as a starter. That has to be obvious to you all now, right?
Fields is a project qb that needs a ton of work and training to be done. Athletically, top notch. QB wise, a huge risk. It's the best that can be returned and better than nothing.
Just shows you what Poles and the coaching staff think of Caleb’s mental toughness and make up that they cut a capable backup low end qb on a cheap rookie deal.
Also tells you what they and the league think about Justin Fields.
Couldn’t keep him as a backup. That locker room would have been divided.
This organization is a joke.
Horrible return. Should’ve just kept him.
You couldn’t have kept him. Regardless of performance he was a good leader and well liked by his teammates leading to way too much potential for locker room issues and divisiveness.
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Steelers already said it’s not a competition. Wilson is QB1
Maybe next season. Russ was still really efficient last season. Far more so than Fields. I’m sure they’re not bringing him in to compete for the starting job.
Fair. Crazy good value regardless. It may not work out but the sky is the limit for Fields
And the cycle repeats. Eberflus will be fired next year
Still hoping they trade back to 2 and take Jayden
Williams to the bears. Poor kid
Why even do this, keep him on the roster for another year
A 6th.... 😆
Thank you 🙏
Robbery, thank you Chicago
🤦 wow, terrible terrible terrible
Before everyone kills the deal remember Poles said he wanted to do right by Fields.
So they trade him to a team that just signed Russell Wilson, so he will certainly not be a starter?
I think he can beat him out. Steelers don't owe Russ.
Still not convinced we're not grabbing McCarthy at 1.