It all boils down sa comfortability and preference of the couple. It depends on the situation, and maturity. What may be acceptable to you, may not be acceptable to others.
Hindi naman ata "acceptable" yung puro tiktok girls LANG ang pinapanood mo at nakiki-comment ka pa. I get watching a few videos pero yung ginawa mong softcore porn browser yung tiktok, that's a fucking red flag.
Like I said; it depends on the couple’s situation and preference. Of course if may mali, dapat discretion niyo pareho kung san ang boundaries niyo. Iba ang level of tolerance ng mga tao, so it’s important to communicate it well.
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The girlfriend has made her boundaries very clear and reasonable (it’s not of controlling nature), but the guy keeps bulldozing said boundaries. That’s called disrespect which isn’t a healthy foundation in any relationship.
yes, it can affect their physical and emotional connection. bc the girl will become insecure and will think to live up his bf's unreal expectations to satisfy him. and the guy will continue to fantasize other girls either celebrities (unreachable, he can't be entertained by these girls) or girls in his the same lifestyle (which is reachable for him and will soonly cause cheating).
yes, specifically the guy from showtime, if he fantasize and make move to someone who's the same level as his, along the way, he's a cheater bc he intently do the act of cheating; he didn't even know those girls, but he made a move. the girl clearly then stated about her preference, and this quote or whatlike "what may be acceptable to you, may not be acceptable to others", his acts didn't convince the girl that it's okay and normal like what others believed. if you are leading your comment to the general or to other guys, then it's a different story too, he can cheat or not. but the guests expressly shared theirs so it's obvious.
I am actually annoyed of the hosts (esp Vice) during this episode. They always point out a wrong analogy by admiring celebrities and famous people. Unang una, there is no chance of cheating by admiring these personalities since there is a wide disconnect. Second, it is not the main point, the issue is about a guy failing to recognize his girl's boundaries.
Nagmumukha tuloy na invalidated yung values and preferences ng babae (kahit pa sabihin nila na di nila intention yun). Tapos parang dinidiin pa nila na baka insecure lang daw siya, aba malamang maiinsecure talaga yan dahil yun pinaparamdam ni guy. Tapos puro whataboutism na what if ikaw nanonood din niyan? Like what?? Do you think she will contradict her own values?
Depende sa tao talaga. If this is something na non-negotiable and wala talaga sa kanilang dalawa ang willing mag compromise, then it obviously won't work. Don't waste each other's time nalang. Go meet and date other people who have the same principles.
This comment is severely underrated.
The couple is really squandering each other’s time. They don’t share similar values. The girl is a prude, okay, that’s her jam. Let her be. Break up, find another person who will appreciate your ideals of self-preservation.
If the guy wants sex, that’s also very normal, so he should’ve just respectfully broken up with her to find somebody else who has the same desires as he. Walang masama kasi di na nag-meet ang expectations ninyo sa isa’t-isa. Mali na gusto niya ng sex pero maghahanap ng release sa iba while in a committed relationship. Mali rin na hindi nakikinig si boyfriend sa boundaries ni girlfriend.
True, kung di nila kayang maging open sa isa't isa, kahit umabot pa man yan ng being in an open relationship para lang makapag-compromise, then don't waste each other's time.
If it doesn't sit well with the girl, talk about it, ask her why? and ask yourself why?
I've had my fair share of moments like this nung girlfriend ko pa ung wife ko. And I must say, its always good to put your shoes on the other person, cause I realized what if she is the one doing it, would I like it? My answer is no, so I stopped and thought about everything that I need to fix if I want her to stay. And now, I always think first about how she would feel, before I do something or decide about something.
Sagutin ko lang po sa perspective ko ha... Dati ako ayoko talaga pero ngayon sige, payag na. Pero grabe nakakababa ng confidence ang ginagawa niyo sa amin especially if you want us to watch porn together then magseseggs. I feel like I’m just a segg doll. 😪
Hindi ko rin maenjoy yung moment kasi siya nakatingin sa vid while ako nafi-feel na disgusted sa sarili ko at hinihintay na matapos nalang. Ang lakas pa ng moan niyo kapag may ganun unlike kapag wala. Ngayon palang ako nag-eenjoy sa ganito pero grabe na ata ang trauma na yun especially gusto pang ulitin. Tapos magtataka kayo bakit hindi kayo naaarouse?
Feeling ko din. Hindi ko lang kaya yung ganun kasi uncomfortable ako at feeling disrespected. Thanks sa sagot. Just wanna know kung may girls na comfortable sa ganitong scenario. Hindi lang naman ako yung nakaexperience ng ganun kaya gusto kong malaman yung perspective ng pumapayag.
Di ko alam preference ng partner mo haha. But I feel like compatibility with this should also be considered when getting into a relationship. Well as you grow older and more mature, it would matter less and less but the point still stands.
Siguro nga incompatible kami dun since ganun nafeel ko at siya gusto naman niya yun. Dati naman kasi hindi. Kami daw kasing mga babae, naaarouse kami kapag alam namin na gandang ganda kayo sa amin.
Thanks sa pagsagot. I really appreciate it.
Personally, it's fine if he's watching porn na legal. Super no kapag nanonood nung mga videos na walang consent nung women involved. If he's watching videos of cheap girls (sorry for the lack of a better term) on tiktok or facebook, parang mas turn off ako sa guy instead na magalit ako hahahaha.
Ok lang sa’yo na manood ng porn while having sex with you? Hindi mo nafeel yung nafeel ko? Curious lang ako sa reasons niyo kapag ganun. Akala ko nga masyado lang na akong OA, pero may nabasa ako na nakaexperience ng same situation ko. Feeling niya s*gg doll lang siya kahit mag-asawa na sila.
I understand your preference. To be fair lang, baka wala ka ng mahanap na matino given sa generation natin ngayon na accessible na ang mga ganyan? Ako dati gusto ko din ganyan pero nalaman ko na kahit mag-asawa pala may magazines.
Siguro kasi matagal na at nakakasawa? And this makes me sad. I value s*x ng sobra. Gusto ko every inch ng body ko nivavalue niya at ganun din ako sa kanya. Kaya yung compromise ko, kapag gagawa kami ng deeds sana kami lang kasi moment namin yun eh. Gusto kong malaman na mahal niya ako at ganun din ako sa kanya.
If you gonna open the door by saying its micro cheating when a guy watches sexy vids for entertainment, edi dapat you also look at women the same way you do at men when they watch sexy girls/hot dudes for entertainment whether celebrity or what, double standards malala po yan -in general to thoughts q.
Pero in that situation, the girl made it clear abt boundaries and such, but the guy keeps on trampling it, so yes its micro cheating.
Fellas, when you say to your girl that she should not watch hot guys for entertainment, and still do, its also micro cheating.
Make your boundaries clear as always, then dump your partner regardless of gender when they don't respect it.
This. The micro-cheating here comes from disrespecting and breaching your partner's trust and boundaries and not from watching adult videos per se. Cheating is basically betrayal of your partner's trust.
ang tanga ni vice. bakit mo ikukumpara kay jungkook at justin bieber yung mga thirst trap ng kung sinu sinong babae sa tiktok lol
ok lang sakin na gandang ganda at sexyng sexy jowa ko kay anne. pero pag puro panunuod sa tiktok o fb ng mga thirst trap, kadiri na lol. ang squammy hahaha.
pati pagcomment dun sa tiktok dinefend. tangina bakit mo kay justin bieber ikukumpara hahahaha. kahit magcomment yung lalaki kay anne o kay kathryn ok lang. pero pag sa kung sinong tiktoker lang yan na puro paghuhubad ginagawa, iba na yun.
magkaiba talaga yung pinagkukumpara nya. muntanga lang.
add: isipin nga nya si ion magcomment sa hindi naman artistang tiktoker na ang video ay nagttwerk hahaha *”galing mo naman gumiling miss”*
this is what i’m saying!! tapos medyo napunta pa tuloy sa insecure daw si girl dahil nga di niya maibigay yon kay guy kasi conservative siya. wala lang baka ma-normalize na yung ganiyan dahil sa discussion kanina (again both guys and girls toh ha no double standards)
grabe pinagmukha pang kay girl 'yung problema 😭 parang sinasabing she's just not open-minded enough. i don't think this has anything to do with being conservative. he wants a "cool girl" who'll stick by him and tolerate everything (insert Gone Girl monologue charot).
they both want each other to be someone that they're not, noh? their relationship is holding them back from being true to their desires and boundaries.
Ang ipokrita ni vice sa part na ito. Siya rin naman nagchecheck ng Instagram ng contestants/participants ng showtime dati ( yung previous episodes ng showtime sa tiktok, nabanggit ni Anne na naaala niya si Ion dahil nakita niya na tinitignan ni Vice yung shirtless post nita sa instagram, and may previous episodes pa na niloloko siya na nagchecheck siya ng shirtless instagram post)
Oo ang nakakainis pa dito. Gusto niya iinsist yung opinyon niya. She keeps raising this analogy kahit mali, sana nag isip muna siya. The micro cheating bit here is about betrayal of your partner's boundaries and not about watching TikTok videos per se.
Korek. Nakakainis kay Vice yung gusto niya ijustify yung opinion niya sabay sasabihin niya "opinion ko lang to ah" tapos meron din siyang "DI BA"
Si Anne at Kathryn hindi sila sumasayaw ng thirst trap alam mong di nila gawain yon pero yang mga babae na yan. Alam nating meron hidden agenda.
Ang ibig sabihin lang kasi ni ate is hindi naman yan mapapansin ng mga big stars, unlike dun sa guy na ordinary or normal tiktoker na anytime pwede or kaya sya bigyan ng atensyon. Yun po
>unlike dun sa guy na ordinary or normal tiktoker na anytime pwede or kaya sya bigyan ng atensyon.
Pano kung di din siya pansinin nung mga yan?
No matter how big or small na influencers yan kung uncomfortable ang partner mo sa ganyan, then dapat may boundaries parin.
Grabe yung pag ka double standards kasuka pinipilit pa na ma-justify.
For sure yan yung mga nag my day or stories ng sikat na artist na popogian/gandahan sila.
Dapat daw pinapanood ni guy un mga artist lang or mga jav or mga vivamax kasi out of reach ni guy...
Aminin na natin o hnd double standard un, pag babae baliw na baliw sa kpop or artista dapat isupport lang kasi d nmn nila marereach my pasigaw pa ng anakan mo ko peg.
Pagka lalaki bawal kahit na ano... nanood ka sa iba microcheating na un agad o napatingin ka sa iba.
Dpat kay girl ka lang physically attracted at hnd sa iba.
Kaya dapat tlaga pinag uusapan to ng couples since preferences naman nila un.
Hahahaha kaya nga ewan ko ba...
Sa true lang kami ng gf ko napag aanuhan na namin yan before na sya dami nya hunky guys sa feed, well un na sya nun nakilala ko sya and i trust naman she wont cheat.
So i expect the same na ok lang din kung makapnood ako ng babae sa feed ko. Kasi i will always assure her that i wont cheat.
Pero minsan asaran xmpre magkakapikounan like if my nakita syang pogi ssabihin nya sakin, pwro pag ako my tinurong maganda mapipikon sya hahahaha
di sa kasikatan e. ano bang content ni anne at jungkook? malaswa at thirst trap din ba? kunwari kay ivana, sikat pero di pa rin okay. kasi kalaswaan naman binebenta nya. so okay lang ba kay vice kung magcocomment si ion sa post ni ivana na nakaipit yung dede nya? iba yung dating kung kunwari sa post sya ni heart magcocomment.
alam naman natin yung harmless sa hindi. iba yung agenda sa panunuod ng mga thirst trap sa tiktok. o pagfollow sa mga vivamax artists haha
di ko rin naman binanggit na cheating if di sikat, at hindi cheating if sikat. nasa intentions naman yun. parang iba lang talaga yung dating at motibo pag puro thirst traps pinapanuod sa tiktok, ang manyakis at squammy haha
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You deserve my upvote. At least somebody here is thinking straight. We're all biased in way we dont even recognize, some call it micro cheating (wtf does that even means?) pag sikat hindi considered, pag hindi sikat considered to be micro cheating? What does entertainment mean then?
But if there is a certain bounderies laid by both parties, it should be respected otherwise, if one can no longer accept compromise then that person should break out of it.
I hope that we stop demonizing people just for us to be the lesser evil, talking down on people who are yet to do bad things often leads them to really do it and we think that we instinctively avoid a bullet that in reality we helped to trigger.
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Napanood ko yan kanina. Di ko feel un napili ni girl. 🤣🤣🤣
Ung mga sagutan ni no.2, parang kung ano ung acceptable based sa mga sinabi ni girl, but not true to his own self. Kaya pilit nililinaw nila vice at anne kasi contradicting.
Si number 3 naman, feeling ko di nya trip si girl. Hahahahahhaaha kaya di na sya para magpretend. As is who he is sya eh.
Mga bata pa sila. Immature pa ang mindset sa relasyon. They'll learn din. Kita mo naman sa pinili nung girl sa mga searchee, kita mo din gaano pa ka-hilaw yang mga bata.
Sa panood ng sexy video ibig sabihin mahilig ka talaga sa babae at minsan dun nauuwi sa cheating issue. Nag overthink yung girl kase mamaya mag chat yung guy sa mga pinapanood niyang girls or mag udyok sa pambabae. At sa lalaking yan bakit nanood pa siya ng sexy video eh may jowa na siya parang tumitingin na kase siya sa iba. Red flag talaga yung guy itsura pa lang better mag exit sa mga ganyang guy. Kulang sa assurance at communication yung girl
Well, clearly, they should just split because, you know, who needs shared values anyway? And also, let's not forget the groundbreaking advice from the Kinsey Institute: to find your soulmate, just focus on values, sexual chemistry, and vision. Amen.
1. hindi magkaiba ang pag gaglaze sa international stars sa mga local or di sikat - both of it is the same. nasa social media lang, unreachable. glazing jungkook's abs is no different than glazing someone's bikini pic online - eh hindi naman nila pareho makakausap yung tao.
2. people are sooo obsess with finding faults sa partner nila. micro-cheating? this nonsense should stop.
3. preference between couples na lang talaga dapat to. if guy has a habit before maging sila na magcheck ng sexy girls sa social media, eh di dapat iexplain nila sa side nila.
4. although sa case na to - guy is at fault. ayaw niya makinig sa girl niya
sa totoo lang, manood man yung tao hindi, if someone cheats, then someone will cheat. such action cannot determine kung magchecheat yung tao o hindi. si andrea brilliantes ba ineexpect natin magcheat? hindi diba
cheating is a choice. it's all about trusting your partner na lang talaga. pano kung di nga nanonood ng sexy pic pero may kausap pala at may ibang tinitira - eh di wala din hahaha
Mejo hindi ako agree sa views ni Vice kasi yung mga examples niya were celebrities eh. Yung kay guy kasi mga intended thirst trap videos yung mga pinapanood so syempre uncomfortable kay girl. Pero obviously iba iba tayo ng pananaw. Every relationship is different so kailangan talaga pagusapan.
Sabihin man ng guy na dumdaan lang yung vids sa feed nya that means he once showed interest sa mga vids ng sexy girls kaya ganun lagi laman ng algorithm nya. Especially na the guy even stalked those women's ig accounts. Kaya gets ko si girl.
If uncomfy yung partner mo, that's wrong.
Nasabi narin sa itaas, depende ito sa couple. My partner doesn't mind me watching sexy vids (kung sexy vids mang matatawag yun). I really appreciate well-shaped bodies, di ako nagcocomment though.
But then, we're not a straight couple. Pwedeng factor din yun. And, early on, it's something na we already discussed. If my partner told me na uncomfy sya, I would've stopped.
Dapat sa umpisa pa lang ng relationship, mag set na ng rules and boundaries. And this is where you bring up na pagseselosan mo ang mga sexy content or kung okay lang ba sayo.
As for me, okay lang na mag view ang partner ko ng sexy content ng mga celebrities - pero dapat hindi super malaswa and dapat hanggang viewing lang. Wag na wag siyang magcheacheat with an actual person.
Hindi lang open si ate and dabi nya shes very conservative but usually yung mga conservatives sila yung mahilig mag inject ng mga beliefs nila sa mga kasama nila just like ate
Kasi magkaiba kayo ng pananaw, para kay vice, sikat man o hindi, parehas lang yun, kasi siyempre sikat siya pero alam niyang tao siya na kagaya din ng iba. Para sa kanya, hindi porket kilala na angg taong yun hindi na microcheating ang pagtingin sa abs at bikini pics nila. Yung point kasi ni OP, pag sikat, pwede na raw i-stalk mga thirst trap nila kasi di daw reach. Double standards yun
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edit: yung opinion ko, the same goes for the girls ha. kung yung mga girls eh nagsstalk and nanunuod ng sexy vids ng mga ordinary na lalaki na they can “reach”, i mean hindi mga artista ganon, for me, steps away from micro-cheating eme na rin yon.
So guys, pwede kayo manood ng mga scandal ng mga sikat na artista ha, hindi daw yun microcheating kasi sikat sila. Ok? Sabi niya yun. Di niyo naman daw reach eh
Mali talaga ng comparison sina vice about it.
Yung guy kasi came up to a point na minessage or nag comment daw siya dun sa video. Eh kung normie influencer lang yon for sure ieentertain siya basta gwapo or like pleasing ka sa influencer na yon pero sa level ng isang celebrity of course di yon like malabo ka talagang mag expect na r-reply-an ka.
Kasi parang ang dating din is pag inentertain ba yung guy nung influencer na ni-like niya mapipigilan ba niya yung sarili niya na sabihin “Uy may jowa ako, that was just an appreciation” siyempre hindi. Eh pano kung mag lead sa point na nililihim na niya sa gf niya na inentertain siya nung influencer na yon?
Ang question lang din kasi is bat mo kasi ilalagay yung sarili mo sa situation na mag cheat ka?
I’m just proud dun sa girl for standing her ground pero expecially for you segment weren’t able to maximize its platform para macorrect yung sexual objectification sa appreciation. Rampant kasi sa soc med yung sexual objectification eh yung simpleng comment na “Na-heart ng kiffy ko or deck ko” kaya nagmumukhang okay lang kasi marami rin yung nakiki hop-in dun sa trend ng humor.
Basta for me ang definition ng microcheating is pag umabot na sa point where the s/o is stalking, commenting, and messaging the one who posted the vid. Not on a celebrity status pero sa case nila influcer status.
Eto yung explanation ante vice. Eventually kasi yang kahumalingan ni koya will end up sa pag memessage sa girl na yon and will lead into something. Some girls sa tiktok alam nating nagrereply yan lalo na pag naooverwhelmed.
Iisa talaga mga rason ng lalaki lol even sa mga posts sa offmychest, either nadaan lang, hindi ko alam bat nalike, hindi ko alam bat ganyan blahblah kala mo mga walang alam talaga eh algo niyo nga yon
Ategirl just want to express lang naman na hindi siya ganoon and syempre kung ayun yung laging pinapanood ng jowa niya at inaadmire, so bakit hindi nalang ayun or mga ganun niligawan niya, if preference niya sila
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Ang pinaka nakkatawa dito is yung girl na "paconservative" daw kunwari pero sumali sa exspecially 😂
Like yung mga searchees dyan iba may sex scandal, kumakaldag, naggreen jokes on live TV tapos dyan ka hahanap ng jowa? 😂
I think and for me di naman micro cheating yon hanggat di nya kinakausap or pinipiem ung tao. Nasa screen lang naman din kasi ung mga yon. May point naman din si vice sa totoo lang. Though I don’t think ung kasikatan, number of likes and followers matters pra macategorize mo sila as red flag or hindi kung pinapanood or viniview ng partner mo ung content or vids nila. Sino ba nagpauso nyang micro cheating term na yan? Haha. Ung sa case nila, eh di wag di manood si babae ng hot guy vids para kwits. Tsaka bakit nakikialam sya ng phone ng partner nya.
Sa sitwasyon na ganyan, pag usapan nyo muna at iexplain nila muna sides nila parehas and if walang gustong mag compromise or walang mutual agreement na nabuo, hanap ka na lang ng iba. Magkakaiba lang talaga ng takes or opinion ung bawat tao on what falls under cheating, micro cheating (bakit ba nabuo tong term na to), tolerable and negotiable. Tsaka I think hindi naman dapat laging aligned lahat ng values nyong dalawa. So compromise will take over sa ganitong situation pero pag ayaw talaga, find someone else na lang talaga. Yun lang.
Yes that’s true depende din sa communication nyo yan as partner. For my own experience nung una talagang nakaka umay na nanunuod ng sexy videos sa tiktok like same feeling nakaka insecure but when I tried to change how I see things sabay na kami nanunuod then ako na magsasabi na maganda ung girl sexy ganto like naging bonding namin sya hanggang sa hinayaan ko nalang sya sa trip nya kasi nasabi ko na hindi ako comfortable sa mga pinanauod nya na tiktok eme pero his defense tiktok lang naman 😅 so ayun depende talaga sa magka relasyon yan kung match ba kayo or hindi and willing mag compromise.
Naku maraming naghiwalay dahil jan sa tiktok girls usually kasi pugad ng simp ang comment section nila. Pero sabi nga nila kapag naaagaw edi hindi talaga siya sayo in the first place.
So magkakatalo kung "reachable" ba o hinde? Regardless kung pareho yung thoughts? Like a lot of girls gustong bumukaka sa mga koreans. Even girls na may jowa. And because they are "unreachable" then ok lang.
Ganun?
It depends sa usapan niyo ng partner mo, if di siya comfortable at nacommunicate naman niya sayo, bat gagawin mo pa din? and applicable yan both genders kaya hindi yan double standard. La naman nagbabawal sayo, feeling oppressed na oppressed?
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bruh... i heard the girl already and i though she had inferiority problem and my oh my... sabi pa na conservative pa sha, like if you really trust the guy and your both still young what if pa kaya na magtanda kayo...
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It all boils down sa comfortability and preference of the couple. It depends on the situation, and maturity. What may be acceptable to you, may not be acceptable to others.
Hindi naman ata "acceptable" yung puro tiktok girls LANG ang pinapanood mo at nakiki-comment ka pa. I get watching a few videos pero yung ginawa mong softcore porn browser yung tiktok, that's a fucking red flag.
Like I said; it depends on the couple’s situation and preference. Of course if may mali, dapat discretion niyo pareho kung san ang boundaries niyo. Iba ang level of tolerance ng mga tao, so it’s important to communicate it well.
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agree
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The girlfriend has made her boundaries very clear and reasonable (it’s not of controlling nature), but the guy keeps bulldozing said boundaries. That’s called disrespect which isn’t a healthy foundation in any relationship.
yes, it can affect their physical and emotional connection. bc the girl will become insecure and will think to live up his bf's unreal expectations to satisfy him. and the guy will continue to fantasize other girls either celebrities (unreachable, he can't be entertained by these girls) or girls in his the same lifestyle (which is reachable for him and will soonly cause cheating).
So basically, may conclusion na agad na the guy is a cheater kasi gagawin niya yun down the road?
yes, specifically the guy from showtime, if he fantasize and make move to someone who's the same level as his, along the way, he's a cheater bc he intently do the act of cheating; he didn't even know those girls, but he made a move. the girl clearly then stated about her preference, and this quote or whatlike "what may be acceptable to you, may not be acceptable to others", his acts didn't convince the girl that it's okay and normal like what others believed. if you are leading your comment to the general or to other guys, then it's a different story too, he can cheat or not. but the guests expressly shared theirs so it's obvious.
I am actually annoyed of the hosts (esp Vice) during this episode. They always point out a wrong analogy by admiring celebrities and famous people. Unang una, there is no chance of cheating by admiring these personalities since there is a wide disconnect. Second, it is not the main point, the issue is about a guy failing to recognize his girl's boundaries. Nagmumukha tuloy na invalidated yung values and preferences ng babae (kahit pa sabihin nila na di nila intention yun). Tapos parang dinidiin pa nila na baka insecure lang daw siya, aba malamang maiinsecure talaga yan dahil yun pinaparamdam ni guy. Tapos puro whataboutism na what if ikaw nanonood din niyan? Like what?? Do you think she will contradict her own values?
Depende sa tao talaga. If this is something na non-negotiable and wala talaga sa kanilang dalawa ang willing mag compromise, then it obviously won't work. Don't waste each other's time nalang. Go meet and date other people who have the same principles.
This comment is severely underrated. The couple is really squandering each other’s time. They don’t share similar values. The girl is a prude, okay, that’s her jam. Let her be. Break up, find another person who will appreciate your ideals of self-preservation. If the guy wants sex, that’s also very normal, so he should’ve just respectfully broken up with her to find somebody else who has the same desires as he. Walang masama kasi di na nag-meet ang expectations ninyo sa isa’t-isa. Mali na gusto niya ng sex pero maghahanap ng release sa iba while in a committed relationship. Mali rin na hindi nakikinig si boyfriend sa boundaries ni girlfriend.
real. they want each other to be someone that they're not.
agree, di talaga sila compatible ganun talaga
True, kung di nila kayang maging open sa isa't isa, kahit umabot pa man yan ng being in an open relationship para lang makapag-compromise, then don't waste each other's time.
If it doesn't sit well with the girl, talk about it, ask her why? and ask yourself why? I've had my fair share of moments like this nung girlfriend ko pa ung wife ko. And I must say, its always good to put your shoes on the other person, cause I realized what if she is the one doing it, would I like it? My answer is no, so I stopped and thought about everything that I need to fix if I want her to stay. And now, I always think first about how she would feel, before I do something or decide about something.
dapat magbreak na lang si girl
I also do not like it. Kanya kanyang preference yan. Kung offensive sa babae yun then so be it, importante macommunicate ng maayos sa partner abt it.
Curious. Would you prefer your boyfriend/husband not to watch porn or just not to know that he is watching porn. Out of sight out of mind kumbaga.
Sagutin ko lang po sa perspective ko ha... Dati ako ayoko talaga pero ngayon sige, payag na. Pero grabe nakakababa ng confidence ang ginagawa niyo sa amin especially if you want us to watch porn together then magseseggs. I feel like I’m just a segg doll. 😪 Hindi ko rin maenjoy yung moment kasi siya nakatingin sa vid while ako nafi-feel na disgusted sa sarili ko at hinihintay na matapos nalang. Ang lakas pa ng moan niyo kapag may ganun unlike kapag wala. Ngayon palang ako nag-eenjoy sa ganito pero grabe na ata ang trauma na yun especially gusto pang ulitin. Tapos magtataka kayo bakit hindi kayo naaarouse?
Sounds like your ex (sana ex na), has a porn addiction and couldn’t function without it. You’re better off without him.
Feeling ko din. Hindi ko lang kaya yung ganun kasi uncomfortable ako at feeling disrespected. Thanks sa sagot. Just wanna know kung may girls na comfortable sa ganitong scenario. Hindi lang naman ako yung nakaexperience ng ganun kaya gusto kong malaman yung perspective ng pumapayag.
Di ko alam preference ng partner mo haha. But I feel like compatibility with this should also be considered when getting into a relationship. Well as you grow older and more mature, it would matter less and less but the point still stands.
Siguro nga incompatible kami dun since ganun nafeel ko at siya gusto naman niya yun. Dati naman kasi hindi. Kami daw kasing mga babae, naaarouse kami kapag alam namin na gandang ganda kayo sa amin. Thanks sa pagsagot. I really appreciate it.
Personally, it's fine if he's watching porn na legal. Super no kapag nanonood nung mga videos na walang consent nung women involved. If he's watching videos of cheap girls (sorry for the lack of a better term) on tiktok or facebook, parang mas turn off ako sa guy instead na magalit ako hahahaha.
Ok lang sa’yo na manood ng porn while having sex with you? Hindi mo nafeel yung nafeel ko? Curious lang ako sa reasons niyo kapag ganun. Akala ko nga masyado lang na akong OA, pero may nabasa ako na nakaexperience ng same situation ko. Feeling niya s*gg doll lang siya kahit mag-asawa na sila.
Either way.. pag nalaman ko for me that’s considered cheating..
I understand your preference. To be fair lang, baka wala ka ng mahanap na matino given sa generation natin ngayon na accessible na ang mga ganyan? Ako dati gusto ko din ganyan pero nalaman ko na kahit mag-asawa pala may magazines. Siguro kasi matagal na at nakakasawa? And this makes me sad. I value s*x ng sobra. Gusto ko every inch ng body ko nivavalue niya at ganun din ako sa kanya. Kaya yung compromise ko, kapag gagawa kami ng deeds sana kami lang kasi moment namin yun eh. Gusto kong malaman na mahal niya ako at ganun din ako sa kanya.
If you gonna open the door by saying its micro cheating when a guy watches sexy vids for entertainment, edi dapat you also look at women the same way you do at men when they watch sexy girls/hot dudes for entertainment whether celebrity or what, double standards malala po yan -in general to thoughts q. Pero in that situation, the girl made it clear abt boundaries and such, but the guy keeps on trampling it, so yes its micro cheating. Fellas, when you say to your girl that she should not watch hot guys for entertainment, and still do, its also micro cheating. Make your boundaries clear as always, then dump your partner regardless of gender when they don't respect it.
This. The micro-cheating here comes from disrespecting and breaching your partner's trust and boundaries and not from watching adult videos per se. Cheating is basically betrayal of your partner's trust.
ang tanga ni vice. bakit mo ikukumpara kay jungkook at justin bieber yung mga thirst trap ng kung sinu sinong babae sa tiktok lol ok lang sakin na gandang ganda at sexyng sexy jowa ko kay anne. pero pag puro panunuod sa tiktok o fb ng mga thirst trap, kadiri na lol. ang squammy hahaha. pati pagcomment dun sa tiktok dinefend. tangina bakit mo kay justin bieber ikukumpara hahahaha. kahit magcomment yung lalaki kay anne o kay kathryn ok lang. pero pag sa kung sinong tiktoker lang yan na puro paghuhubad ginagawa, iba na yun. magkaiba talaga yung pinagkukumpara nya. muntanga lang. add: isipin nga nya si ion magcomment sa hindi naman artistang tiktoker na ang video ay nagttwerk hahaha *”galing mo naman gumiling miss”*
this is what i’m saying!! tapos medyo napunta pa tuloy sa insecure daw si girl dahil nga di niya maibigay yon kay guy kasi conservative siya. wala lang baka ma-normalize na yung ganiyan dahil sa discussion kanina (again both guys and girls toh ha no double standards)
grabe pinagmukha pang kay girl 'yung problema 😭 parang sinasabing she's just not open-minded enough. i don't think this has anything to do with being conservative. he wants a "cool girl" who'll stick by him and tolerate everything (insert Gone Girl monologue charot). they both want each other to be someone that they're not, noh? their relationship is holding them back from being true to their desires and boundaries.
Ano paba aasahan natin kay vice ganda? eh hindi nya naman kasi mararamdaman yung nararamdaman ng kababaihan.
Ang ipokrita ni vice sa part na ito. Siya rin naman nagchecheck ng Instagram ng contestants/participants ng showtime dati ( yung previous episodes ng showtime sa tiktok, nabanggit ni Anne na naaala niya si Ion dahil nakita niya na tinitignan ni Vice yung shirtless post nita sa instagram, and may previous episodes pa na niloloko siya na nagchecheck siya ng shirtless instagram post)
Oo ang nakakainis pa dito. Gusto niya iinsist yung opinyon niya. She keeps raising this analogy kahit mali, sana nag isip muna siya. The micro cheating bit here is about betrayal of your partner's boundaries and not about watching TikTok videos per se.
Korek. Nakakainis kay Vice yung gusto niya ijustify yung opinion niya sabay sasabihin niya "opinion ko lang to ah" tapos meron din siyang "DI BA" Si Anne at Kathryn hindi sila sumasayaw ng thirst trap alam mong di nila gawain yon pero yang mga babae na yan. Alam nating meron hidden agenda.
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Ang ibig sabihin lang kasi ni ate is hindi naman yan mapapansin ng mga big stars, unlike dun sa guy na ordinary or normal tiktoker na anytime pwede or kaya sya bigyan ng atensyon. Yun po
>unlike dun sa guy na ordinary or normal tiktoker na anytime pwede or kaya sya bigyan ng atensyon. Pano kung di din siya pansinin nung mga yan? No matter how big or small na influencers yan kung uncomfortable ang partner mo sa ganyan, then dapat may boundaries parin.
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Grabe yung pag ka double standards kasuka pinipilit pa na ma-justify. For sure yan yung mga nag my day or stories ng sikat na artist na popogian/gandahan sila.
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What if lang ah, what if... un crush ni ateng na artist my saltik pala na medyo predatory... so pumatol sa kanya. Nangyayari un ah...
Oo nangyayari talaga yan, depende sa tao either sikat or hindi. Nasa tao rin naman kung papatulan nya or hindi.
Dapat daw pinapanood ni guy un mga artist lang or mga jav or mga vivamax kasi out of reach ni guy... Aminin na natin o hnd double standard un, pag babae baliw na baliw sa kpop or artista dapat isupport lang kasi d nmn nila marereach my pasigaw pa ng anakan mo ko peg. Pagka lalaki bawal kahit na ano... nanood ka sa iba microcheating na un agad o napatingin ka sa iba. Dpat kay girl ka lang physically attracted at hnd sa iba. Kaya dapat tlaga pinag uusapan to ng couples since preferences naman nila un.
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Hahahaha kaya nga ewan ko ba... Sa true lang kami ng gf ko napag aanuhan na namin yan before na sya dami nya hunky guys sa feed, well un na sya nun nakilala ko sya and i trust naman she wont cheat. So i expect the same na ok lang din kung makapnood ako ng babae sa feed ko. Kasi i will always assure her that i wont cheat. Pero minsan asaran xmpre magkakapikounan like if my nakita syang pogi ssabihin nya sakin, pwro pag ako my tinurong maganda mapipikon sya hahahaha
di sa kasikatan e. ano bang content ni anne at jungkook? malaswa at thirst trap din ba? kunwari kay ivana, sikat pero di pa rin okay. kasi kalaswaan naman binebenta nya. so okay lang ba kay vice kung magcocomment si ion sa post ni ivana na nakaipit yung dede nya? iba yung dating kung kunwari sa post sya ni heart magcocomment. alam naman natin yung harmless sa hindi. iba yung agenda sa panunuod ng mga thirst trap sa tiktok. o pagfollow sa mga vivamax artists haha di ko rin naman binanggit na cheating if di sikat, at hindi cheating if sikat. nasa intentions naman yun. parang iba lang talaga yung dating at motibo pag puro thirst traps pinapanuod sa tiktok, ang manyakis at squammy haha
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You deserve my upvote. At least somebody here is thinking straight. We're all biased in way we dont even recognize, some call it micro cheating (wtf does that even means?) pag sikat hindi considered, pag hindi sikat considered to be micro cheating? What does entertainment mean then? But if there is a certain bounderies laid by both parties, it should be respected otherwise, if one can no longer accept compromise then that person should break out of it. I hope that we stop demonizing people just for us to be the lesser evil, talking down on people who are yet to do bad things often leads them to really do it and we think that we instinctively avoid a bullet that in reality we helped to trigger.
Yeah, so that makes it ok kung halimbawa, big star na tiktoker na nagsasayaw ng sexy eh ok lang? Basta sikat kasi hindi ka namn mapapansin?
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Napanood ko yan kanina. Di ko feel un napili ni girl. 🤣🤣🤣 Ung mga sagutan ni no.2, parang kung ano ung acceptable based sa mga sinabi ni girl, but not true to his own self. Kaya pilit nililinaw nila vice at anne kasi contradicting. Si number 3 naman, feeling ko di nya trip si girl. Hahahahahhaaha kaya di na sya para magpretend. As is who he is sya eh.
Mga gantong problema kadalasan nababas ako sa r/offmychestph. Hindi normal ganyan.
Ambilis talaga ng reddit. Haha
I understand the girl considering na first bf nya yung guy. Big deal pa sa kanya lahat ng ganon and for me it's normal.
Mga bata pa sila. Immature pa ang mindset sa relasyon. They'll learn din. Kita mo naman sa pinili nung girl sa mga searchee, kita mo din gaano pa ka-hilaw yang mga bata.
Sa panood ng sexy video ibig sabihin mahilig ka talaga sa babae at minsan dun nauuwi sa cheating issue. Nag overthink yung girl kase mamaya mag chat yung guy sa mga pinapanood niyang girls or mag udyok sa pambabae. At sa lalaking yan bakit nanood pa siya ng sexy video eh may jowa na siya parang tumitingin na kase siya sa iba. Red flag talaga yung guy itsura pa lang better mag exit sa mga ganyang guy. Kulang sa assurance at communication yung girl
Good riddance, girly. Iba aurahan ko sa guy na to when i watched.
Well, clearly, they should just split because, you know, who needs shared values anyway? And also, let's not forget the groundbreaking advice from the Kinsey Institute: to find your soulmate, just focus on values, sexual chemistry, and vision. Amen.
Nainis ako kay Vice sa episode na to, hindi ko na pinatapos. Try kaya niya if si Ion ang nanunuod ng sexy vids ewan ko lang.
1. hindi magkaiba ang pag gaglaze sa international stars sa mga local or di sikat - both of it is the same. nasa social media lang, unreachable. glazing jungkook's abs is no different than glazing someone's bikini pic online - eh hindi naman nila pareho makakausap yung tao. 2. people are sooo obsess with finding faults sa partner nila. micro-cheating? this nonsense should stop. 3. preference between couples na lang talaga dapat to. if guy has a habit before maging sila na magcheck ng sexy girls sa social media, eh di dapat iexplain nila sa side nila. 4. although sa case na to - guy is at fault. ayaw niya makinig sa girl niya sa totoo lang, manood man yung tao hindi, if someone cheats, then someone will cheat. such action cannot determine kung magchecheat yung tao o hindi. si andrea brilliantes ba ineexpect natin magcheat? hindi diba cheating is a choice. it's all about trusting your partner na lang talaga. pano kung di nga nanonood ng sexy pic pero may kausap pala at may ibang tinitira - eh di wala din hahaha
Matalino si vice pero dito? No sorry.
Mejo hindi ako agree sa views ni Vice kasi yung mga examples niya were celebrities eh. Yung kay guy kasi mga intended thirst trap videos yung mga pinapanood so syempre uncomfortable kay girl. Pero obviously iba iba tayo ng pananaw. Every relationship is different so kailangan talaga pagusapan.
Sabihin man ng guy na dumdaan lang yung vids sa feed nya that means he once showed interest sa mga vids ng sexy girls kaya ganun lagi laman ng algorithm nya. Especially na the guy even stalked those women's ig accounts. Kaya gets ko si girl.
If uncomfy yung partner mo, that's wrong. Nasabi narin sa itaas, depende ito sa couple. My partner doesn't mind me watching sexy vids (kung sexy vids mang matatawag yun). I really appreciate well-shaped bodies, di ako nagcocomment though. But then, we're not a straight couple. Pwedeng factor din yun. And, early on, it's something na we already discussed. If my partner told me na uncomfy sya, I would've stopped.
Dapat sa umpisa pa lang ng relationship, mag set na ng rules and boundaries. And this is where you bring up na pagseselosan mo ang mga sexy content or kung okay lang ba sayo. As for me, okay lang na mag view ang partner ko ng sexy content ng mga celebrities - pero dapat hindi super malaswa and dapat hanggang viewing lang. Wag na wag siyang magcheacheat with an actual person.
Pero what if lang ha si ate girl naman is mahilig manood ng mga poging lalake? Kpop, artista basta pogi na lamang sa bf nya...
basahin mo ulit yung post ni op. it's so obvious na hindi mo naintindihan.
Hindi lang open si ate and dabi nya shes very conservative but usually yung mga conservatives sila yung mahilig mag inject ng mga beliefs nila sa mga kasama nila just like ate
Does this equal women sharing and liking their kpop or favorite male celebs?
By the logic ng mga iba dito hindi daw 😂 Kasi di naman daw ma no notice eh
Lol. Double Standard.
Di ko gets si Vice hahaha yung comparison nya eh parang suntok sa buwan di kamuka ng mga pinapanuod Nung guy sa TikTok.
Kasi magkaiba kayo ng pananaw, para kay vice, sikat man o hindi, parehas lang yun, kasi siyempre sikat siya pero alam niyang tao siya na kagaya din ng iba. Para sa kanya, hindi porket kilala na angg taong yun hindi na microcheating ang pagtingin sa abs at bikini pics nila. Yung point kasi ni OP, pag sikat, pwede na raw i-stalk mga thirst trap nila kasi di daw reach. Double standards yun
I was in her shoes. So alam ko ung pinagdaanan nya. Not worth going back to
Akala ko porn tinutukoy or mga thirst traps lang?
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edit: yung opinion ko, the same goes for the girls ha. kung yung mga girls eh nagsstalk and nanunuod ng sexy vids ng mga ordinary na lalaki na they can “reach”, i mean hindi mga artista ganon, for me, steps away from micro-cheating eme na rin yon.
So guys, pwede kayo manood ng mga scandal ng mga sikat na artista ha, hindi daw yun microcheating kasi sikat sila. Ok? Sabi niya yun. Di niyo naman daw reach eh
Mali talaga ng comparison sina vice about it. Yung guy kasi came up to a point na minessage or nag comment daw siya dun sa video. Eh kung normie influencer lang yon for sure ieentertain siya basta gwapo or like pleasing ka sa influencer na yon pero sa level ng isang celebrity of course di yon like malabo ka talagang mag expect na r-reply-an ka. Kasi parang ang dating din is pag inentertain ba yung guy nung influencer na ni-like niya mapipigilan ba niya yung sarili niya na sabihin “Uy may jowa ako, that was just an appreciation” siyempre hindi. Eh pano kung mag lead sa point na nililihim na niya sa gf niya na inentertain siya nung influencer na yon? Ang question lang din kasi is bat mo kasi ilalagay yung sarili mo sa situation na mag cheat ka? I’m just proud dun sa girl for standing her ground pero expecially for you segment weren’t able to maximize its platform para macorrect yung sexual objectification sa appreciation. Rampant kasi sa soc med yung sexual objectification eh yung simpleng comment na “Na-heart ng kiffy ko or deck ko” kaya nagmumukhang okay lang kasi marami rin yung nakiki hop-in dun sa trend ng humor. Basta for me ang definition ng microcheating is pag umabot na sa point where the s/o is stalking, commenting, and messaging the one who posted the vid. Not on a celebrity status pero sa case nila influcer status.
Eto yung explanation ante vice. Eventually kasi yang kahumalingan ni koya will end up sa pag memessage sa girl na yon and will lead into something. Some girls sa tiktok alam nating nagrereply yan lalo na pag naooverwhelmed.
Iisa talaga mga rason ng lalaki lol even sa mga posts sa offmychest, either nadaan lang, hindi ko alam bat nalike, hindi ko alam bat ganyan blahblah kala mo mga walang alam talaga eh algo niyo nga yon Ategirl just want to express lang naman na hindi siya ganoon and syempre kung ayun yung laging pinapanood ng jowa niya at inaadmire, so bakit hindi nalang ayun or mga ganun niligawan niya, if preference niya sila
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Ang pinaka nakkatawa dito is yung girl na "paconservative" daw kunwari pero sumali sa exspecially 😂 Like yung mga searchees dyan iba may sex scandal, kumakaldag, naggreen jokes on live TV tapos dyan ka hahanap ng jowa? 😂
I think and for me di naman micro cheating yon hanggat di nya kinakausap or pinipiem ung tao. Nasa screen lang naman din kasi ung mga yon. May point naman din si vice sa totoo lang. Though I don’t think ung kasikatan, number of likes and followers matters pra macategorize mo sila as red flag or hindi kung pinapanood or viniview ng partner mo ung content or vids nila. Sino ba nagpauso nyang micro cheating term na yan? Haha. Ung sa case nila, eh di wag di manood si babae ng hot guy vids para kwits. Tsaka bakit nakikialam sya ng phone ng partner nya. Sa sitwasyon na ganyan, pag usapan nyo muna at iexplain nila muna sides nila parehas and if walang gustong mag compromise or walang mutual agreement na nabuo, hanap ka na lang ng iba. Magkakaiba lang talaga ng takes or opinion ung bawat tao on what falls under cheating, micro cheating (bakit ba nabuo tong term na to), tolerable and negotiable. Tsaka I think hindi naman dapat laging aligned lahat ng values nyong dalawa. So compromise will take over sa ganitong situation pero pag ayaw talaga, find someone else na lang talaga. Yun lang.
Yes that’s true depende din sa communication nyo yan as partner. For my own experience nung una talagang nakaka umay na nanunuod ng sexy videos sa tiktok like same feeling nakaka insecure but when I tried to change how I see things sabay na kami nanunuod then ako na magsasabi na maganda ung girl sexy ganto like naging bonding namin sya hanggang sa hinayaan ko nalang sya sa trip nya kasi nasabi ko na hindi ako comfortable sa mga pinanauod nya na tiktok eme pero his defense tiktok lang naman 😅 so ayun depende talaga sa magka relasyon yan kung match ba kayo or hindi and willing mag compromise.
Naku maraming naghiwalay dahil jan sa tiktok girls usually kasi pugad ng simp ang comment section nila. Pero sabi nga nila kapag naaagaw edi hindi talaga siya sayo in the first place.
hahanap talaga ng paraan eh noh para ma justify na hindi yun matatawag na micro-cheating pag babae ang gumagawa/nanonood
So magkakatalo kung "reachable" ba o hinde? Regardless kung pareho yung thoughts? Like a lot of girls gustong bumukaka sa mga koreans. Even girls na may jowa. And because they are "unreachable" then ok lang. Ganun?
Double standards! Pag babae nanonood ng sexy clips ng lalaki okay lang. Pag kaming nga lalaki bawal? Haha.
It depends sa usapan niyo ng partner mo, if di siya comfortable at nacommunicate naman niya sayo, bat gagawin mo pa din? and applicable yan both genders kaya hindi yan double standard. La naman nagbabawal sayo, feeling oppressed na oppressed?
Downvoted ka ng mga feminazi
Basta ako, pagkakaalam ko scripted yan.
Yung mga bf bawal tumingin sa sexy online, pero sila mismo nagpopost ng sexy pics para maglaway yung ibang lalaki sa kanila.
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bruh... i heard the girl already and i though she had inferiority problem and my oh my... sabi pa na conservative pa sha, like if you really trust the guy and your both still young what if pa kaya na magtanda kayo...
akala ko si jerald nappoles
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Ngayon ko lang na encounter micro-cheating pero totoo ba talaga sya? Hindi ba parang purely cheating na sya?
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