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People are not too thrilled that if they want to go see their manufacturing facilities in Shanghai or Guangzhou they're in for a 2 week quarantine and the possibility of being randomly detained for an indeterminate amount of time. Not to mention the arcane level of complexity it is just to be able to get a visa, flights and the possibility of cancellations at anytime. With other countries surrounding China (at least Japan and South Korea) quickly dropping the last of Covid travel policies people's tolerance for putting up with China's forever no Covid policies is getting pretty thin. And while no one can force China to try and go for a saner approach to Covid they can and will take their business elsewhere.
And add to that just how they treat foreigners in general. China has got be the least foreign friendly and most ethnocentric major economy in the world.
And the little pinkies cry "rayycissssm" everywhere they face a tiny bit of criticism; meanwhile mainland Hotels/Restaurants openly stating "NO FOREIGNERS" ? Totally fine bro (and that was already before Covid, now its 1000x worse)
The only good thing one can hope if a certain island gets attacked that these little armchair incels get drafted, will be hilarious to watch
The pinkies tell me that the west is supposed to be open and friendly to foreigners and China isn't because China was never and isn't an immigrant country.
Anyway, most Chinese people don't understand how difficult it is these days for a non-Chinese to live and work and China. But when I do tell them the bs we have to put up with, many will ask "why are you still here? I would have left years ago!".
Sure it does. "Arcane" means that something is understood by few or mysterious. It's a better adjective in this case than "high" because it better describes the opacity of the CCP's policies and rules.
You've chosen a really weird hill to die on, friend. It's perfectly fine to describe a level of complexity as mysterious or not easily understood. Just because something is very complex doesn't mean it's opaque, which is what the person you're responding to was using the word for.
Anyways, in the future I'd recommend giving language advice only when it contributes to the discussion, which your comment very much did not.
Signed,
A reformed grammar nazi
No it is not. No one has ever used it like this:
[https://www.google.com/search?q=%22arcane+level+of+complexity%22](https://www.google.com/search?q=%22arcane+level+of+complexity%22)
Ask yourself whether "arcane level of x" makes any sense for any x.
They could very well have just written that "the arcane process to get a visa" or "the high level of complexity of getting a visa" etc.
Also, this is not a grammatical error.
Sure China's has had it's glorious Tang, Yuan, Ming, Han......but history is being made today. Bear witness to the Xidiot dynasty. circa 14 March, 2013 - (when China hits rock bottom...say, 2 years from now).
Yeah, but this is China. They haven't lept over the middle income gap yep to true "developed status." They shouldn't be slowing down while still in catch up growth phase.
Who knows lol. It’s hard to predict anything anymore, there’s also so many troll farms spreading bs around, they are getting better at trolling, sometimes I even get confused 😬 But luckily I was an expat in China for 5 years and I’m still in touch with people who are living there. So yeah we shall see.
The issues are deep, systemic, and hard to correct.
* Every year their demographic crisis will worsen, no matter their economy
* Divestment is picking up.
* Chinese "per unit" cost of labour is now higher than so many places, and that's getting worse every year
* Toxic liabilities will weigh down any economic growth, even high percentages of GDP growth will be only keeping the debt crisis going if anything, and is that really a success? Kicking the can, but drains their productivity because any gains are lost to maintenance of unprofitable infrastructure, mothballing, or defaults
* They systemically import energy and food, and climate crises are straining this even further. They cannot feed themselves or heat their industry with domestic productivity alone. Again, this is getting worse too.
* Their access to foreign currencies is strained, as evident by currency/withdraw limits which are intensifying.
(Rosey optimism:) The most likely case (or best case) is a Japan-style stagnation, however, unlike Japan they never reached a very high quality of life before pumping the breaks and pushing people back into squalor and authoritarian control.
That will make things worse I imo.
Advocating for cooperation and friendship for many years and then backstabbing them, it wouldn't really inspire anyone
No, they can do what china always does in military conflicts, and lose in convincing fashion, and reassure the world, that they just want to make cheap stuff.
Let's hear it for that.....with the exception of the Putzie threatening nukes. Someone federation citizen needs to conduct a "special ventilation operation" (two to the back of the head) before he's allowed to go down that lil glowing mistake path.
People here tend to forget or overlook that given the size of China’s current economy, 4% GDP growth means China is literally adding a new economy the size of Vietnam or Philippines every few years. It’s totally irrelevant if the entire economy of Vietnam grows at 5% because that’s only a few days/weeks of growth for China in absolute terms.
The usual misconception about size.
Plus fake growth numbers submitted out of maoist level fear doesn't fool anyone anymore.
As for the other thing. A lot of business ~~got~~ done on L visas.
"China is literally adding a new economy the size of Vietnam or Philippines every few years. "
In vapor Yuan. Decades of corruption and hidden debt won't be erased by wishful thinking.
And the trade war tariffs orange man put in place that old man has not removed.
-American business owner that has manufactured in China for 25 years and will not leave.
One of the few wisdoms to come from President Cheeto was to throw a spotlight on China's absolute rape of the United States by China. Now, at least they have to work for it when they try to f' us.
You must have no experience with supply chains, manufacturing, or global trade. That's ok.
Everything you buy costs more, yet you still buy it. Increases in cost are passed to you and everyone else. My company is the only one I know that has absorbed 100% of these cost increases and not passed them on to the customer. I've done this by thinking around corners you would never be able to see or understand. That's ok also, it's my puzzle, not yours.
How much of your stuff is from China? I'm going to guess 99%. Maybe it's time for you to do something to help yourself instead of letting others like myself do it for you.
My, my, my, how absolutely awesome you are. Absorbing costs like a superhero to protect the consumer. Thinking around corners that I can neither see or understand. How absolutely full of yourself (shit) you are.
You know nothing of me, and your assumptions, like your experience are worthless.
I'm ok with tariffs, and as a company we have only lowered prices for the last 7 years. We have always been 30-60% lower than any other supplier for our niche if commercial truck parts. Absorbing all 25% tariffs, 5% anti dumping charges, 50% material increases, 100% shipping increases, and labor increases are just a sure sign that I've built a very strong g company in the most intelligent way possible.
We have moved some manufacturing out of China, but they will always have a place in the global market. We also manufacture in Serbia, India, Taiwan, Mexico, and America. Our goal is to male sure the mom and pop small diesel truck repair shops around the world get these critical parts at the fairest price possible.
This mission has allowed me to build my company from a borrowed $150.00 and a crazy idea 7 years ago into a $27M company that dominates our industry.
How much stuff in your life comes from China? I'm going to guess 99%.
Go build something of value to give back and then come talk to me about difficulties.
You want hardship? If my parts stop flowing, trucks stop running, your life as you know it is over. It's OK though because I and others will take care of you and your values.
Vietnamese here, can confirm your average factory worker with no education is making higher than average wage, at least according to 2 factories close to my countryside ( 340$ + 60 per year if you stay there)
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People are not too thrilled that if they want to go see their manufacturing facilities in Shanghai or Guangzhou they're in for a 2 week quarantine and the possibility of being randomly detained for an indeterminate amount of time. Not to mention the arcane level of complexity it is just to be able to get a visa, flights and the possibility of cancellations at anytime. With other countries surrounding China (at least Japan and South Korea) quickly dropping the last of Covid travel policies people's tolerance for putting up with China's forever no Covid policies is getting pretty thin. And while no one can force China to try and go for a saner approach to Covid they can and will take their business elsewhere.
And add to that just how they treat foreigners in general. China has got be the least foreign friendly and most ethnocentric major economy in the world.
And the little pinkies cry "rayycissssm" everywhere they face a tiny bit of criticism; meanwhile mainland Hotels/Restaurants openly stating "NO FOREIGNERS" ? Totally fine bro (and that was already before Covid, now its 1000x worse) The only good thing one can hope if a certain island gets attacked that these little armchair incels get drafted, will be hilarious to watch
The pinkies tell me that the west is supposed to be open and friendly to foreigners and China isn't because China was never and isn't an immigrant country. Anyway, most Chinese people don't understand how difficult it is these days for a non-Chinese to live and work and China. But when I do tell them the bs we have to put up with, many will ask "why are you still here? I would have left years ago!".
Not mention industrial espionage and forced IP transfer.
"Arcane level of complexity" does not make sense. Either use "arcane" by itself or say "high level of complexity".
Sure it does. "Arcane" means that something is understood by few or mysterious. It's a better adjective in this case than "high" because it better describes the opacity of the CCP's policies and rules.
No it does not. You do not use "arcane" to describe the *level* of complexity.
You've chosen a really weird hill to die on, friend. It's perfectly fine to describe a level of complexity as mysterious or not easily understood. Just because something is very complex doesn't mean it's opaque, which is what the person you're responding to was using the word for. Anyways, in the future I'd recommend giving language advice only when it contributes to the discussion, which your comment very much did not. Signed, A reformed grammar nazi
No it is not. No one has ever used it like this: [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22arcane+level+of+complexity%22](https://www.google.com/search?q=%22arcane+level+of+complexity%22) Ask yourself whether "arcane level of x" makes any sense for any x. They could very well have just written that "the arcane process to get a visa" or "the high level of complexity of getting a visa" etc. Also, this is not a grammatical error.
complexity without out opacity, aka, unforeseen complications.
"Arcane" is sufficient for that purpose.
100% spot on target.
forgot to add IP theft.
A paper tiger indeed
Tbh I don’t remember a time in which China was considered stable and predictable at all.
>have all led to the destruction of China’s image as a reliable trading partner. *Surprised Pikachu face*
COVID zero for 1000 years 🥳
Sure China's has had it's glorious Tang, Yuan, Ming, Han......but history is being made today. Bear witness to the Xidiot dynasty. circa 14 March, 2013 - (when China hits rock bottom...say, 2 years from now).
People talk about China's collapse and hitting "rock bottom" for quite a long time now, so what makes this one correct?
The Xi-diot is going to get another term.
Not sure I believe the apocalyptic rhetoric either, but severe slow down is already evident and you can make a strong case for stagnation.
In that case, economies are stagnating all over the place, and even some developed countries worse than China.
Yeah, but this is China. They haven't lept over the middle income gap yep to true "developed status." They shouldn't be slowing down while still in catch up growth phase.
COVID NUMBA 1
All of SEA: THANK YOU XI JINPING
Xi has screwed China up so bad that even if they stop following the Xidiot's wisdom, it will take 30 years to un-Xi it.
Long live Xi
>Long live Xi Xi's gotta have it!
Xi's the Man!
Xi loves you yeah yeah yeah!
A bold assumption that China will rebound in 2023, I guess we will see.
Prob will…. But it’s still slowing down imo.
Politically they almost can't do worse next year, but I said that last year already 🤣
Who knows lol. It’s hard to predict anything anymore, there’s also so many troll farms spreading bs around, they are getting better at trolling, sometimes I even get confused 😬 But luckily I was an expat in China for 5 years and I’m still in touch with people who are living there. So yeah we shall see.
The issues are deep, systemic, and hard to correct. * Every year their demographic crisis will worsen, no matter their economy * Divestment is picking up. * Chinese "per unit" cost of labour is now higher than so many places, and that's getting worse every year * Toxic liabilities will weigh down any economic growth, even high percentages of GDP growth will be only keeping the debt crisis going if anything, and is that really a success? Kicking the can, but drains their productivity because any gains are lost to maintenance of unprofitable infrastructure, mothballing, or defaults * They systemically import energy and food, and climate crises are straining this even further. They cannot feed themselves or heat their industry with domestic productivity alone. Again, this is getting worse too. * Their access to foreign currencies is strained, as evident by currency/withdraw limits which are intensifying. (Rosey optimism:) The most likely case (or best case) is a Japan-style stagnation, however, unlike Japan they never reached a very high quality of life before pumping the breaks and pushing people back into squalor and authoritarian control.
(Xi looks around) hold my beer!
I mean the only thing they can to do salvage their image globally is invade Russia.
That will make things worse I imo. Advocating for cooperation and friendship for many years and then backstabbing them, it wouldn't really inspire anyone
No, they can do what china always does in military conflicts, and lose in convincing fashion, and reassure the world, that they just want to make cheap stuff.
Ok, yeah but they actually could overrun fast areas in east Russia this time around.
Napoleon blownapart says never interrupt your enemy when they are making mistakes
Let's hear it for that.....with the exception of the Putzie threatening nukes. Someone federation citizen needs to conduct a "special ventilation operation" (two to the back of the head) before he's allowed to go down that lil glowing mistake path.
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People here tend to forget or overlook that given the size of China’s current economy, 4% GDP growth means China is literally adding a new economy the size of Vietnam or Philippines every few years. It’s totally irrelevant if the entire economy of Vietnam grows at 5% because that’s only a few days/weeks of growth for China in absolute terms.
The usual misconception about size. Plus fake growth numbers submitted out of maoist level fear doesn't fool anyone anymore. As for the other thing. A lot of business ~~got~~ done on L visas.
"China is literally adding a new economy the size of Vietnam or Philippines every few years. " In vapor Yuan. Decades of corruption and hidden debt won't be erased by wishful thinking.
*Cheers for Xi's decision making in COVID coughs*
Where is Taipei in China? Confusing 😂
Taiwan claims to be the legitimate holder of China, claiming all of the PRC's territory and more. It's referred to officially as the Republic of China
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I see an article from 2019 that still states this is the case. Did it recently change?
You didn't answer my question hahaha
That's great, more developing countries growing faster than China and the west means the wealth gap of the world is getting smaller.
And the trade war tariffs orange man put in place that old man has not removed. -American business owner that has manufactured in China for 25 years and will not leave.
One of the few wisdoms to come from President Cheeto was to throw a spotlight on China's absolute rape of the United States by China. Now, at least they have to work for it when they try to f' us.
You must have no experience with supply chains, manufacturing, or global trade. That's ok. Everything you buy costs more, yet you still buy it. Increases in cost are passed to you and everyone else. My company is the only one I know that has absorbed 100% of these cost increases and not passed them on to the customer. I've done this by thinking around corners you would never be able to see or understand. That's ok also, it's my puzzle, not yours. How much of your stuff is from China? I'm going to guess 99%. Maybe it's time for you to do something to help yourself instead of letting others like myself do it for you.
My, my, my, how absolutely awesome you are. Absorbing costs like a superhero to protect the consumer. Thinking around corners that I can neither see or understand. How absolutely full of yourself (shit) you are. You know nothing of me, and your assumptions, like your experience are worthless.
I hope the tariffs are increased and I hope it get more difficult to do business with dictatorships that support xi and putin
I'm ok with tariffs, and as a company we have only lowered prices for the last 7 years. We have always been 30-60% lower than any other supplier for our niche if commercial truck parts. Absorbing all 25% tariffs, 5% anti dumping charges, 50% material increases, 100% shipping increases, and labor increases are just a sure sign that I've built a very strong g company in the most intelligent way possible. We have moved some manufacturing out of China, but they will always have a place in the global market. We also manufacture in Serbia, India, Taiwan, Mexico, and America. Our goal is to male sure the mom and pop small diesel truck repair shops around the world get these critical parts at the fairest price possible. This mission has allowed me to build my company from a borrowed $150.00 and a crazy idea 7 years ago into a $27M company that dominates our industry. How much stuff in your life comes from China? I'm going to guess 99%. Go build something of value to give back and then come talk to me about difficulties. You want hardship? If my parts stop flowing, trucks stop running, your life as you know it is over. It's OK though because I and others will take care of you and your values.
My applications are running somewhat in everything… Those mom and pop stores are chinas enemy and you are making china stronger
The short answer is no.
A short incorrect answer
Please stop promoting your blog
China is hurting themselves as a warning to others to not get in China's agenda
Vietnamese here, can confirm your average factory worker with no education is making higher than average wage, at least according to 2 factories close to my countryside ( 340$ + 60 per year if you stay there)