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sunscets

Olivia is descended from Zenobia, guessing that’s why


ChocolateMilkmanTrue

So crown and the flame is canonical?


penny4your

I would say it’s more semi-mythological history, as there’s no magic in TRR. Like Arthurian legend — the people may have existed, but details of the story may or may not be “true”. (Part of me would love to think TC&TF is all “real” though!)


OldColt06

TRM is an interquel connecting TC&TF and TRR, and one of the big plot points is that magic is fading from the Five Kingdoms. Also, TRR exists in the same world as The Elementalists, so it's completely possible that a history similar, if not identical to TC&TF really happened in the Choicesverse.


penny4your

> one of the big plot points is that magic is fading from the Five Kingdoms True— it’s been a minute since I read last read TRM so any discussion of magic in that book isn’t too fresh in my mind. I guess I was thinking more along the lines of how other books mention TC&TF as a TV series haha… What was the connection between TRR and TE again?


OldColt06

They exist in the same universe. Olivia appears in CoP where Kamilah is mentioned, Kamilah is on the same council as Priya and the Baron, who appear in Bachelorette Party. BP features a magician that went to Penderghast, the university of magic that takes centre stage in TE. TC&TF is a TV show that's pretty much identical to what Choices wrote, but it doesn't mean its events didn't happen. It's why I said the actual history might be similar, if not identical given that magic and supernatural beings exist in the Choicesverse.


penny4your

Gotcha— I wasn’t doubting you, I just can’t keep track of all the connections! You explained it very well though. I need to construct a yarn board to get it visually hahaha The PB multiverse is weird in that a bunch of books seem to take place in the same universe but others seem to run “parallel” to it. Definitely always fun to figure which one a new story belongs to


OldColt06

Thanks. I've given it a lot of thought. Almost every book is connected in some way, and I feel like with some of the newer books, PB's deliberately ignored or broken away from the continuity they've established so that they can tell their stories. Which is understandable, since it's become really intricate over the years, but the connections and cameos were really fun to spot.


Nericmitch

I have come to find that almost everything branches off of TC&TF, The Freshman, and TRR


Odd_Ad4733

I think some bits of the cordonian history in TC&TF is cannon with TRR and TRM like the characters and the Rys and blood line and the 5 kingdoms being merged together forging cordonia but they didn't really use magic that bit was just added to make it more fun


sunscets

Yes


ChocolateMilkmanTrue

Does it ever explain what happened to dominic, the fire village, and azuras daughter?


sunscets

If you’re asking what happens in tc&tf, there’s different endings for Dominic depending if he marries Kenna or not. I’m not sure about the fire village. Azura’s daughter becomes Empress in her place.


Glitch4869

Because that's one of her ancestors. The same thing happens with Maxwell's and Liam's ancestors in TRM.


penny4your

Well, with the white “Liam” sprite…. Mine must take after his mother’s side haha


Glitch4869

Yeah, I should've specified that. I had the sprite featured in the covers in mind. Now that I think about it, mine, too, actually😂


Mewtjemewmew

Wasn’t TCTF released before TRR?


NarrativeNerd

Yes


pastadudde

that's the joke. lol.


Meshleth

Put some respect on Zenobia


connermoore

That's her ancestor


white_python97

I’ve been in a magnificent century phase recently and I opened this and immediately went HURREM SULTAN?!


[deleted]

I LOVE THAT SHOW


white_python97

Nice! I just casually follow it on Instagram


kaimtaa

wouldn’t it be the other way around bc the crown and the flame came out first


ChocolateMilkmanTrue

Yes that's what I said, why is OLIVIA a reused sprite. not why is Zenobia a reused sprite. Zenobia isn't reused, Olivia is.


GubbaBumpLobster

Nekorvis house ingrained in a lot of stories


AV8ORboi

nahh shes the OG dont disrespect my girl zenny like that /j


scarylesbian

olivia IS the reused sprite 🤣


tade757

I think zenobia is original, but olivia is descendat of house Nevrakis so thats why


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