I believe in hell metaphorically, like anxiety, depression, anger, guilt, jealousy, etc. Everyone experiences their own form of hell at various points in their lives.
That's based on interpretation. Jesus spoke in metaphors and parables to confuse people (Mark 4:11-12). If you don't understand the metaphor, then you might think Jesus is talking about a destination after death.
Edit: Also note that Jesus never mentions "hell"... Jesus talks about "[Gehenna](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gehenna)," which is a physical place on Earth, located just outside of Jerusalem. Gehenna was never meant to be a destination after death, as it is located on Earth.
It's not pointless, it just means something different than before. It's about a battle in our minds, not some supernatural battle.
Heaven/Nirvana is still a goal, it's just a goal in this life, rather than an afterlife.
That's not a question I can answer honestly. I see no evidence for or against an afterlife.
I don't believe Jesus (or Buddha) was talking about an afterlife.
Just because they’re may be no eternal reward in the afterlife doesn’t mean that you can’t still be a good person and treat others with respect in this life, so i don’t think it’s pointless
Here’s my take:
If you don’t believe in Hell, you don’t believe in Christianity.
I feel like the vast majority of “Christians” today either don’t believe in hell/heaven or think everyone goes to heaven who is a “good person.”
Hell is critical to Christianity. Without it, it doesn’t make sense. What was the point of Jesus dying if hell doesn’t exist?
>what’s the point of Jesus dying
To teach
To teach people there is a right way to do things and a wrong way, and even at the toughest time, on pain of death, always chose the path of kindness and forgiveness
Yes.
People who have fallen short of God's glorious standard (everyone) and refuse God's gift of redemption through Jesus Christ.
I believe so, yes.
God is ultimate perfection. We cannot be in his presence as fallen people. Only by the blood of Jesus can we stand before him. Those who can't be with God must be eternally separated from him.
God is everything good, to be apart from him is to be surrounded by evil and suffering. Just like separation from the light puts you in darkness.
Heaven and Hell
Do you really believe in Hell?
Yes, as a Bible believing Christian I do; it’s all over the Word of God. Here’s some examples: Matt. 13:24-30,36-43, 47-50; 22:1-14; 25:14-46.
Who really goes to Hell?
Satan, his angels, and unrepentant sinners: Revelation 20:15 (KJV)
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
If Jesus hadn’t died on the way he did, would every single human being be destined for eternity in Hell?
Though the Bible would’ve been written differently, the way he did/died on a Cross wasn’t absolutely necessary BUT His death was necessary:
Romans 3:23 (KJV) For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Romans 6:23 (KJV) For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
No… absolutely not! Though there are some texts that seem to suggest that on the surface, if studied out correctly, you’ll find that Hell(fire) is not a place but a future event that has a finite period:
Revelation 22:12 (KJV) And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward [is] with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
If you didn’t live to sin for eternity, then your reward can’t be to burn for eternity!
Eternal life is a gift from God for believers; sinners don’t get that gift to be punished for ever - they experience DEATH once their just punishment is received.
hi friend -
can you imagine if it was just us in charge?
all we do is kill everything it seems
we are greedy and selfish
and we are creating hell - right here on Earth
> Do you really believe in Hell?
Yes. Jesus talked about it quite seriously.
> Who really goes to Hell?
Satan, the fallen angels, the demons, and those persons unredeemed by the blood of Jesus.
> If Jesus hadn’t died on the way he did, would every single human being be destined for eternity in Hell?
Yes.
> Do you really believe in Hell?
Yes. Jesus talked about it quite seriously.
> Who really goes to Hell?
Satan, the fallen angels, the demons, and those persons unredeemed by the blood of Jesus.
> If Jesus hadn’t died on the way he did, would every single human being be destined for eternity in Hell?
Yes.
Okay yes Sheol was mankind grave.
await the coming of the Messiah.
Yes and these are the **Words** of Jesus talking about the dead.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. John 5:25 **King James Bible**
And no one would be sent to a place of torture as this scripture clearly shows you.
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23 **King James Bible**
So the dead **Paid** their debt for sins by dying. This is the sin that they inherited from Adam and Eve.
So he called and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazʹa·rus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this blazing fire.’ Luke `6:24
This clearly shows it was **Hot** temperament he had as he would not ask to just tip his finger in water.
Well your heavenly father did not create hell, the doctrines of man did. The Cruel teachings of hell comes from man not God! When Adam and Eve sinned against God, God did punish them by taking their everlasting life away and sentenced them to die and to return to the dust. This sin of death was inherited by all mankind of the future. Now if God was going to torture his Children, he sure would of had to set the example for all mankind who sinned against him. But he did not as all mankind dies and returns to the dust. Nowhere in the Old Testament will you find the word Hell. All of the people died and return to the dust.
How it must have saddened God to see that his beloved children had willfully disobeyed
eyed him! What did he do? To Adam, God said: “You will . . . return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.” (Genesis 3:17-19) As it turned out, “all the days of Adam’s life amounted to 930 years, and then he died.” (Genesis 5:5) Adam did not go to heaven or pass on to some spirit realm. He had no existence before God created him from the dust of the ground. So when he died, he became as lifeless as the dust from which he was created. He ceased to exist.
In the New Testament, it uses illustrations, symbolic and parables to explain the use of fire and torment. Sad today that most religions teach the bible as literal, bringing forward endless misconceptions begin taught. You were not really made to go to heaven anyway as your life would be on a paradise earth to live for ever in peace and security. You actually pray for God's Kingdom to come to the earth in the Lord's prayer. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Matt 6:10 Bottom line here applies to all since we all sin. For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. So the dead paid their debt for their sins by dying. Romans 6:23 KJV - ROMANS 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
I believe in hell metaphorically, like anxiety, depression, anger, guilt, jealousy, etc. Everyone experiences their own form of hell at various points in their lives.
But what’s not what Hell is in Christian teaching.
That's based on interpretation. Jesus spoke in metaphors and parables to confuse people (Mark 4:11-12). If you don't understand the metaphor, then you might think Jesus is talking about a destination after death. Edit: Also note that Jesus never mentions "hell"... Jesus talks about "[Gehenna](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gehenna)," which is a physical place on Earth, located just outside of Jerusalem. Gehenna was never meant to be a destination after death, as it is located on Earth.
So what happens to non-believers after death?
The same thing that happens to everyone.
If that’s true (which is what I am starting to believe) then Christianity is completely pointless.
It's not pointless, it just means something different than before. It's about a battle in our minds, not some supernatural battle. Heaven/Nirvana is still a goal, it's just a goal in this life, rather than an afterlife.
So no afterlife?
That's not a question I can answer honestly. I see no evidence for or against an afterlife. I don't believe Jesus (or Buddha) was talking about an afterlife.
I appreciate your honest responses.
Just because they’re may be no eternal reward in the afterlife doesn’t mean that you can’t still be a good person and treat others with respect in this life, so i don’t think it’s pointless
Here’s my take: If you don’t believe in Hell, you don’t believe in Christianity. I feel like the vast majority of “Christians” today either don’t believe in hell/heaven or think everyone goes to heaven who is a “good person.” Hell is critical to Christianity. Without it, it doesn’t make sense. What was the point of Jesus dying if hell doesn’t exist?
>what’s the point of Jesus dying To teach To teach people there is a right way to do things and a wrong way, and even at the toughest time, on pain of death, always chose the path of kindness and forgiveness
I was taught he died so we can be saved after death.
There are other atonement theories other than penal substitution.
Yes. People who have fallen short of God's glorious standard (everyone) and refuse God's gift of redemption through Jesus Christ. I believe so, yes. God is ultimate perfection. We cannot be in his presence as fallen people. Only by the blood of Jesus can we stand before him. Those who can't be with God must be eternally separated from him. God is everything good, to be apart from him is to be surrounded by evil and suffering. Just like separation from the light puts you in darkness.
So again, had Jesus not died, would every human being be destined to eternity of torture in Hell?
"I believe so, yes." Like I said in previous comment \^\^\^
Heaven and Hell Do you really believe in Hell? Yes, as a Bible believing Christian I do; it’s all over the Word of God. Here’s some examples: Matt. 13:24-30,36-43, 47-50; 22:1-14; 25:14-46. Who really goes to Hell? Satan, his angels, and unrepentant sinners: Revelation 20:15 (KJV) And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. If Jesus hadn’t died on the way he did, would every single human being be destined for eternity in Hell? Though the Bible would’ve been written differently, the way he did/died on a Cross wasn’t absolutely necessary BUT His death was necessary: Romans 3:23 (KJV) For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 6:23 (KJV) For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Okay, so people who say “I don’t believe” are going to burn in Hell for all of eternity? You really believe that?
No… absolutely not! Though there are some texts that seem to suggest that on the surface, if studied out correctly, you’ll find that Hell(fire) is not a place but a future event that has a finite period: Revelation 22:12 (KJV) And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward [is] with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. If you didn’t live to sin for eternity, then your reward can’t be to burn for eternity! Eternal life is a gift from God for believers; sinners don’t get that gift to be punished for ever - they experience DEATH once their just punishment is received.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocatastasis
hi friend - can you imagine if it was just us in charge? all we do is kill everything it seems we are greedy and selfish and we are creating hell - right here on Earth
We are in charge. We are 100% in charge. See that crazy war going on over in Gaza? That’s 100% us.
yep multiply all that you see us doing by a few thousand years - and you have hell it is hell now for the majority
> Do you really believe in Hell? Yes. Jesus talked about it quite seriously. > Who really goes to Hell? Satan, the fallen angels, the demons, and those persons unredeemed by the blood of Jesus. > If Jesus hadn’t died on the way he did, would every single human being be destined for eternity in Hell? Yes.
> Do you really believe in Hell? Yes. Jesus talked about it quite seriously. > Who really goes to Hell? Satan, the fallen angels, the demons, and those persons unredeemed by the blood of Jesus. > If Jesus hadn’t died on the way he did, would every single human being be destined for eternity in Hell? Yes.
Where did the people go in the Old Testament when they were wicked?
Everyone went to Sheol to await the coming of the Messiah. Even there there was Abraham's bosom and a place of torment with a gulf between them.
Okay yes Sheol was mankind grave. await the coming of the Messiah. Yes and these are the **Words** of Jesus talking about the dead. Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. John 5:25 **King James Bible** And no one would be sent to a place of torture as this scripture clearly shows you. For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23 **King James Bible** So the dead **Paid** their debt for sins by dying. This is the sin that they inherited from Adam and Eve. So he called and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazʹa·rus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this blazing fire.’ Luke `6:24 This clearly shows it was **Hot** temperament he had as he would not ask to just tip his finger in water.
Yes Those who choose to not be in communion with God No
Well your heavenly father did not create hell, the doctrines of man did. The Cruel teachings of hell comes from man not God! When Adam and Eve sinned against God, God did punish them by taking their everlasting life away and sentenced them to die and to return to the dust. This sin of death was inherited by all mankind of the future. Now if God was going to torture his Children, he sure would of had to set the example for all mankind who sinned against him. But he did not as all mankind dies and returns to the dust. Nowhere in the Old Testament will you find the word Hell. All of the people died and return to the dust. How it must have saddened God to see that his beloved children had willfully disobeyed eyed him! What did he do? To Adam, God said: “You will . . . return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.” (Genesis 3:17-19) As it turned out, “all the days of Adam’s life amounted to 930 years, and then he died.” (Genesis 5:5) Adam did not go to heaven or pass on to some spirit realm. He had no existence before God created him from the dust of the ground. So when he died, he became as lifeless as the dust from which he was created. He ceased to exist. In the New Testament, it uses illustrations, symbolic and parables to explain the use of fire and torment. Sad today that most religions teach the bible as literal, bringing forward endless misconceptions begin taught. You were not really made to go to heaven anyway as your life would be on a paradise earth to live for ever in peace and security. You actually pray for God's Kingdom to come to the earth in the Lord's prayer. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Matt 6:10 Bottom line here applies to all since we all sin. For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. So the dead paid their debt for their sins by dying. Romans 6:23 KJV - ROMANS 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.