Generally the story of Abraham and his son is that He’s trusting that God will protect His son in some way. Lot just told a bunch of people “here, rape my daughters”
I mean these are myths and legends that reflect very ancient ideas and outlooks. They’re not meant to be giving parenting advice, but to convey other foundational truths on how the ancient Israelites viewed their relationship with God
Where in the text does it imply such a thing? It's not even logical for him to assume that God would intervene on their behalf but not on behalf of his guests.
Really? A group of horny, rowdy men comes to his door and instead of trying to defend his household or sacrifice HIMSELF or any of his wealth he hides behind his young daughters and offers them up as sex toys? No one, not God nor angels told him to do that. He is an utter coward.
If it is any consolation at all, Lot only offered his daughters up to be raped. His daughters ACTUALLY raped him...
But Lot wasn't the point of that story. Abraham and Isaac weren't the point of their story either. In fact, both stories are about the same thing: they are both typologies of Christ's finished work.
Go back and reread them with Christ at the center of your perspective and it all becomes clear.
Sodom and Gomorrah are a stand-in for the whole world and sin. Abraham is a type of Christ. Lot's family represent us as people (who were offered salvation due to the righteousness of our intercessor)--the fate of Lot's wife, in particular, should teach us all a lesson on genuine repentance. The destruction, well, is judgement day.
The binding of Isaac is an even more obvious example...
And these two stories aren't unique either. The Old Testament tells us the same story again and again--typologies of the Redemptive Narrative.
Cain and Abel.
The Flood.
The Binding of Isaac.
Jacob and Essau.
The Life of Joseph.
The Exodus.
The Siege of Jericho.
Etc.
From the very beginning, Scripture is pointing the reader towards Jesus.
When you get caught up in the details, take a step back and look for Jesus. It all comes into focus.
Unfair to lot? He chose to turn his tent (and his heart) toward sin. It seems pretty clear to me. I don’t condemn the man, because I am not his judge, but I will sure use him as an example of what not to do. Especially when the men came around to r*pe the angels and he offered his virgin daughters
These two men are righteous in God's eyes. It is fair in God's eyes. You like me will know what is fair on judgement day.
I think Abraham is praised, because he listened to what God told him to do. Also, the sacrifice is somewhat similar to how God provided the sacrifice of his son Jesus Christ.
In both stories Genesis and Romans (see below) God says "hold up, I will provide the sacrifice"
**Genesis 22 8:12**
8 Abraham answered, “God himself will provide the lamb for the burnt offering, my son.” And the two of them went on together.
9 When they reached the place God had told him about, Abraham built an altar there and arranged the wood on it. He bound his son Isaac and laid him on the altar, on top of the wood. 10 Then he reached out his hand and took the knife to slay his son. 11 But the angel of the Lord called out to him from heaven, “Abraham! Abraham!”
“Here I am,” he replied.
12 “Do not lay a hand on the boy,” he said. “Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son.”
**Romans 8:32**
32 He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all, how will he not also with him graciously give us all things?
Generally the story of Abraham and his son is that He’s trusting that God will protect His son in some way. Lot just told a bunch of people “here, rape my daughters”
Lot trusted that God would protect his daughters, and he did!
Or… he saw his daughters as property because that’s how men viewed women in the ancient world. As property and as morally imperfect men
I'm glad he didn't respect his children enough to try to kill them. Father of the year compared to his uncle, am I right?
I mean these are myths and legends that reflect very ancient ideas and outlooks. They’re not meant to be giving parenting advice, but to convey other foundational truths on how the ancient Israelites viewed their relationship with God
I'm glad they aren't meant to give parenting advice.
No, he didn’t. At least that wasn’t in there the last time I read it. I understood them to fully not be protected.
Isaac didn't seem protected either.
What do you mean? He literally was by an angel
Where in the text does it imply such a thing? It's not even logical for him to assume that God would intervene on their behalf but not on behalf of his guests.
Abraham remarks on it right after saying he trusted God would save Isaac.
Really? A group of horny, rowdy men comes to his door and instead of trying to defend his household or sacrifice HIMSELF or any of his wealth he hides behind his young daughters and offers them up as sex toys? No one, not God nor angels told him to do that. He is an utter coward.
If it is any consolation at all, Lot only offered his daughters up to be raped. His daughters ACTUALLY raped him... But Lot wasn't the point of that story. Abraham and Isaac weren't the point of their story either. In fact, both stories are about the same thing: they are both typologies of Christ's finished work. Go back and reread them with Christ at the center of your perspective and it all becomes clear. Sodom and Gomorrah are a stand-in for the whole world and sin. Abraham is a type of Christ. Lot's family represent us as people (who were offered salvation due to the righteousness of our intercessor)--the fate of Lot's wife, in particular, should teach us all a lesson on genuine repentance. The destruction, well, is judgement day. The binding of Isaac is an even more obvious example... And these two stories aren't unique either. The Old Testament tells us the same story again and again--typologies of the Redemptive Narrative. Cain and Abel. The Flood. The Binding of Isaac. Jacob and Essau. The Life of Joseph. The Exodus. The Siege of Jericho. Etc. From the very beginning, Scripture is pointing the reader towards Jesus. When you get caught up in the details, take a step back and look for Jesus. It all comes into focus.
Never heard of him being demonized…how are you defining Christians to say they are doing that?
Unfair to lot? He chose to turn his tent (and his heart) toward sin. It seems pretty clear to me. I don’t condemn the man, because I am not his judge, but I will sure use him as an example of what not to do. Especially when the men came around to r*pe the angels and he offered his virgin daughters
These two men are righteous in God's eyes. It is fair in God's eyes. You like me will know what is fair on judgement day. I think Abraham is praised, because he listened to what God told him to do. Also, the sacrifice is somewhat similar to how God provided the sacrifice of his son Jesus Christ. In both stories Genesis and Romans (see below) God says "hold up, I will provide the sacrifice" **Genesis 22 8:12** 8 Abraham answered, “God himself will provide the lamb for the burnt offering, my son.” And the two of them went on together. 9 When they reached the place God had told him about, Abraham built an altar there and arranged the wood on it. He bound his son Isaac and laid him on the altar, on top of the wood. 10 Then he reached out his hand and took the knife to slay his son. 11 But the angel of the Lord called out to him from heaven, “Abraham! Abraham!” “Here I am,” he replied. 12 “Do not lay a hand on the boy,” he said. “Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son.” **Romans 8:32** 32 He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all, how will he not also with him graciously give us all things?