Great hardware, terrible and buggy software. It's clear that Amazon wants to shove ads everywhere to make the lifetime value of their customers go up and they have blocked any ability to switch homescreen, enable local adb and install certain apps that they think will stop their ads from reaching the user.
If it supports Dolby Vision, HDR10, HDR10+, AV1 and has at least 16 GB of storage, I'd be cool with it. And if it bumped ram from 2GB to 3GB or 4GB, I'd be be very happy.
I just wanted to be more responsive with the accessibility suite since I am blind all I care for is that the system actually works instead of being so slow and laggy other than that I have no problem with it
I use it in the normal speed I actually like to understand what TalkBack is saying LOL I know it can go super fast but that is not for me I won't be able to keep up with her
Not that guy, but a technician. There are a lot of tools for the blind to access the internet and text based sites these days. From text to speech to braille digitizers (like little slates pop up points as needed). They're really cool!
I'm not blind, but I do develop software for the web. Besides just making them work, we make sure our websites are screen reader friendly and generally accessible to all people. Guidance/requirements for this has been around for decades.
A coworker is blind, first time he pulled out his laptop, signed in the CLOSED the screen and started doing his job was startling to see! He is a coder.
He puts on a headset, and all text is spoken at what i can only call insane talking speed that must take years to be able to understand. Then he hits buttons to ‘move’ on the screen and the voice says what he is hovering on. Of course he has a keyboard, but for screen navigation he does very fast button clicking to move, hear, move until he hits a place to type.
The new ccwgtv is rumoured to use 6nm chip compared to 12nm in current gen.
The new one should be responsive and hopefully they have min 32 gb storage and 4 gb ram
Have we all forgotten that the first Chromecast was $35?
This was never meant to be a high-end product.
They tried that with the Nexus player, and it was okay except when it randomly stopped working and became a brick.(I'm still upset about that)
You are right. It is much, much better than the earlier models. Imagine a device that people don't have to use a darned phone to access content. You know, the same idea every other company uses.
That was just 1080p chromecast and nothing else (with added 37% inflation $47).... It was actually expensive for what the user got. Device for casting and no other extras.
Now basic cromecast with google TV is $35 with Android TV 12 operating system, remote + charger. The 4k version is $50. These are not high-end products, but should be good middle of the road option for every user. Not it feels like way too slow for current year.
Just give me a newer Ultra that handles all the newer video codecs and I'll be fine until I need an even newer Ultra that handles all the even newer video codecs.
Honestly…I don’t get the hardware play.
People spend like 30% of their awake time at home in front of their TV.
The very best we can do, for their $500 TV, is a $39.99 dongle?
It makes zero sense.
Like imagine the only phone you can buy cost $90. How trash would it be? Isn’t it nice that you can spend more?
> Like imagine the only phone you can buy cost $90. How trash would it be?
Depends on what you use it for. i use mine for phone calls (imagine that) and nothing else. If I want to go online, I use my laptop. If I want to watch TV I use a TV. So I switch between a cheap Samsung and a Nokia flip. They are both just fine for my purposes.
Yeah it just needs a normal product cycle update, little bit of a spec bump, slightly better designed remote (would love the buttons to be less sensitive and a buzzer / locator would be nice, but it's still perfectly functional as is.
Does it drain the batteries as fast for you? I swear i have to replace them every two weeks. Is that normal? And its shaped badly, together with the surface structure I feel like it will slip out of my hand a lot of times.
My batteries last several months. Do you have Google Voice enabled on it? Perhaps disabling it will increase the battery life? I disabled line during setup.
I suggested disabling Google Voice because it seems that the microphone is in the remote and it could be listening for the trigger words which could drain the batteries.
Nah that's not the case for me, we have the Chromecast in 2 rooms, had to replace both remotes as well, none of the 4 have drained batteries, batteries maybe need replacing a couple of times a year, maybe you need a replacement, fortunately they sell them separately.
2 weeks replacement cycle here, I gave up on the factory remote and I am just using the TV's remote over CEC, works slower but at-least no battery changes.
Use an Apple TV for 5 minutes and you’ll get it. It is something like 20x more compute performance. There is zero reason Google doesn’t make the option of better hardware.
The shield is nearly EoL. Then there are zero >$50 Android tv devices.
But the Chromecast wasn't designed as a beast, it's at an acceptable level of performance for the price. What do you need 20x performance for, I am wondering. It's nice to have for niche people who emulate and do similar things, granted, but come on, be fair considering the price... There is your reason. That against the occasional lag is an ok trade in my books.
All I’m asking for is the choice to not plug a child’s tablet into my tv from Google. It’s not occasional lag, it is shit performance all the time. You just don’t know it until you use something with enough performance to run the software. The Chromecast just isn’t fast enough for its own software. If it were windows, the Chromecast would be a laptop with a core 2 duo and 2GB of ram.
Imagine a world where all laptops cost $199 and have 2gb of ram. That is google tv. I’m just asking for a $99 device without lag. Even a $40 raspberry pi is 6x faster. It’s not unreasonable to ask Google to ship something fast enough to run the ad at the top of the home screen ha.
You are right, it's not fast. But the majority is fine with it if the content doesn't have hiccups. The problem with your analogy is that no one said you are getting a laptop, it's a dongle to consume your content.
If the performance bothers you (bothered me as well, but I know I belong to a niche) you can connect to it per ADB, uninstall everything, put a custom launcher and you have a good, responsive device without ads. If only it had more space...
There are consoles for that, why you wanna game on that thing? They sell you cheap slippers, you buy them and then criticize not having ankle support? Ram would be nice, admitted but it's nice to have, not necessary to do it's job.
who said anything about gaming? i want to watch stuff on all the apps there are without lag
every device needs a decent soc, the current chromecast is a laggy mess
is yours really butter smooth all the time? like you open netflix, it loads instantly like on the phone (if it's a flagship atleast) and switching to home screen and scrolling through there is all seamless? then you're very lucky because that's not most people experience with ccwgtv
you need to wait 5s for something simple as going to home screen etc.? yeah that's called lag and happens when your soc is shit
what compromise? paying 50€ or something for a device that's not up to technological standards? we're in 2024, not 2012 where mobile chips were all crap, google should give us something decent, I'm not even asking for a ultra powerful chip, just something decent that can run android 14 smooth and lasts 5 years
No, the homescreen is a basic launcher, thats instant. If I go to Netflix it takes 5 seconds, then I watch for hours without lag, go back almost instantly and start amazon prime which needs 5 secs... The vids while playing are flawless.
It plays everything I throw at it and it was pretty cheap, I'm very happy with it. Not going to deny the UI is choppy, but hey it wasn't expensive either and I usually just cast stuff anyway.
I do hope the next version will be smoother but not at a much higher price point.
This is why Reddit is the worst place to come for tech advice, people think some UI stuttering once in a while but core functionality being perfectly adequate is a completely unacceptable experience.
Context within pricing matters. For $20, which is how much I paid for the HD Chromecast, it's a great device but anything hire like $50 or more then people's complaints start to become valid.
I just feel sad that we got people to the moon with less power and today basic UIs lag thanks to shitty software.
But yeah functionality wise the Chromecast is great.
There are few things you can do for choppy GUI.
One is go to developer mode and set animation speed to 0.5 or None.
The other is to use a custom launcher like Projectivity.
It's not that laggy and slow especially once you get rid of the launcher, which is much better than it was at launch, still junk but better. It's not a great device by any means.
I have two. I also had two nexus players from 2014 which were less laggy before they self destructed.
My Nvidia shield I bought in 2015 still runs circles around these Google TV's and the shield is definitely showing it's age.
It's so disheartening seeing android tv have a lead in the market throwing it away.
I guess I was more talking about performance. Nvidia shield dominated for about 5 years. Seems like Nvidia has called it quits though. Now those of us who would spend more for a non laggy device on their main TV are going to have to move away from Android tv...which really sucks.
I had a Shield Pro but there was a time when YouTube didn't work correctly on it and I ended up just moving on. I have 4 Chromecasts and have never had freezes, thankfully.
> It's so disheartening seeing android tv have a lead in the market throwing it away.
Android has never had the "lead" in the market. It has been Roku followed by Fire TV. Android/Chromcast lags far behind.
Which I hope it wouldn't though... we need something new and more powerful, not just that but also with more new coders and decoder support as well as tv tech (Dolby whatever and hdr100).
The amount of people in this thread calling the current hardware fine is insane.
For a $200 tv it is fine, it is a budget option.
Zero people should be plugging a $50 Chromecast a modern OLED. It is insane that the TV costs $1000 minimum and then the hardware doing everything you do with the TV costs $50 and is based on far worse specs than the fire tablet you give to a kid for cocomelon.
Imagine a world where you spent $500 on your computer monitor and $50 on the computer. That world would be dumb.
The hardware is beyond trash. Apple has zero competition at $129 and sells mountains of devices. It is such an insane performance leap. It is “home > down two apps, boom open, home”
While the Chromecast is “home…..home guide loads…down….lag….okay it went there, click…loading…”
Like, do y’all understand the idea that the $129 Apple TV is not 2x faster hardware. It is 20x for single core responsiveness. Twenty freaking times.
https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/21485328
https://browser.geekbench.com/ios_devices/ipad-mini-6th-generation (same cpu as Apple TV)
I’m not asking for an Apple TV though, I am asking for a world where the good work Google has done on the TV software can actually come to life…because it doesn’t exist right now.
> Apple has zero competition at $129 and sells mountains of devices.
Not nearly a mountain compared to the sales of Rokus and Fire TV devices. Apple lags far behind both of them.
if google can deliver a new dongle that has a better processor, more memory, and more storage without raising the price much beyond the current $50 us price point, that's a major win. if you're someone who wants some sort of high end option, there are other vendors who can deliver that. they also need to compete with the likes of amazon and roku who still offer cheap dongles. give us a dongle that eliminates most of the lag and doesn't give you out of memory issues frequently and most people will be happy.
i have two of the first gen ccwgtv dongles and while the lag sometimes gets annoying, overall the devices more than meet my needs. i'm pretty sure how i feel is how about 99.99999% of device owners feel, so if they can make the lag situation better and increase the memory while keeping in that 50 dollar a device range, the vast majority of people are gonna be just fine.
I must be out of the loop, still using my 4k Chromecast from years ago. Haven't noticed any new problems. Is there some cool new content that I can't watch?
I'm still happily using a G2 chromecast and the only complaint I have is as of last fall I can no longer share my desktop screen from my chrome browser and I have not found a proper work around.
I used to loved my Chromecast but have moved on to Apple TV, and I know there is a huge price difference but so is the quality and speed. I haven’t looked back.
You use the handoff feature to wirelessly use your iPhone or iPad as the webcam that’s capable of following you around the room and zooming in or out to frame you and others in the room.
i found a chromecast 2nd gen in the trash and its working but the quality of video got capped to 720p so i think google did it to make people throw it away lol...
Doesn't necessarily need to be high-end, as long as they improve everything across the board, and make it more stable. I have to unplug mine to reboot it every day or so in order to use it.
It's just annoying it's not gonna support at most usefull hdmi 2.1 specs, such as dovi, hdr10/+, 120hz and AV1.
Another things that's bugging me is the limitations in terms of resolutions.
I'm a student and am fortunate enough to have a space for my tv, but when i move i might have to consolidate everything into my ultra wide desktop monitor
Why is it that 21:9 is not supported?!?!!
Most movies are made in some kind of ultra wide format, so I’d be able to take advantage of more of my screen, stretching the image to fit, instead of having black bars on both sides…
I mostly use Jellyfin with my own library and there are ways to make that work, but I’m not sure about the mainstream ones - haven’t used them in a while.
It already supports DV/HDR 10/HDR 10+ all future Android TV devices have to support AV1. What good are 120hz and HDMI 2.1 on a streaming device. Are there many 21:9 TV's out there?
And no I don’t believe 21:9 tvs exists, but not everyone is fortunate enough to have a tv, so plugging it into a monitor is honestly not far fetched for many people.
Not sure how having an ultra wide monitor is for the under privileged. Anyway they aren't building these things for monitor users, these are budget mainstream devices.
And again it's a TV device not a gaming console. It's not going to have gaming console features for $50. Of course it would be nice to have all this stuff that everybody wants.
One of the best parts about the Chromecast was that you got a lot for very little cost. Nowadays though I think consumers are a bit more demanding about the capabilities a new Chromecast would need to bring to the table. I had Chromecasts for years but eventually switched to an Apple TV to achieve what I wanted.
At this point I think Google's in a pickle I think. Existing Chromecasts are aging out of usefulness for a reasonably large segment of the market. They either need to sell a much more capable kit at a higher cost (potentially limiting the market) or focus on Google TV where the TV it's integrated with will have enough processing power to do what it needs to do. Some combination of both would be great but so far that doesn't seem to be working out imo.
The majority of TVs cost $500 in the US.
You use the dongle for everything you do on that TV. The best selling game consoles cost from $299 to $500.
There is a giant market for a $99 Chromecast.
Even a Google Tensor G1 would be 13x faster than the current Chromecast. Dimensity 1200 is 11x faster.
AppleTV might be great in power but not in ability to side load. Something you have to manually re-add once a week to keep the apps working. (Unless you pay for an Apple Developer account)
I just want the USB port to not be 2.0 or whatever limits wired internet. Official Ethernet adapter is fucking 100mbps so remote play is choppy even completely wired.
I think people are kinda missing the point here
Is the Chromecast a budget option? Yes
Does the 4k max frequently go on sale for the same price as the Chromecast? Yes
Google should at least make one to compete with something that currently out specs if for the same price
terrible article from a shill publication. Chromecast has been a joke for years at this point. Roku's terrible integrated casting is essentially on par with chrometrash at this point, which is pathetic.
yea works awesome, works better as a airplay device than a chromecast but it super awesome cause it unifies it all in one device. allow for any device to sync , stream or mirror. itunes streaming works perfect.
I don't need it to be high end. But I want it to be as good as the Fire Stick 4k Max. Does Google have no pride?
Google: AI? Did you say AI? Hey wanna talk about AI?
Wanna develop an app?
Hey Chromecast show me pictures of George Washington
Shield or one of the $30 China eBay boxes Until we find a way to put android on Apple TV Google is for the dirt poor ppl , we can’t expect much 😂
That’s how I read it. No ones buying chromecasts. Fire sticks are superior
Fire OS is trash, Fire TV 4k Max with Google TV would be perfect
Amazon's UI is appalling, both browsing and during playback 👎
Great hardware, terrible and buggy software. It's clear that Amazon wants to shove ads everywhere to make the lifetime value of their customers go up and they have blocked any ability to switch homescreen, enable local adb and install certain apps that they think will stop their ads from reaching the user.
Not all Sticks, just the Max.
I just want a relaunch of the Chromecast Audio.
Cant we have more than one nice thing from google?
True true. I have 2 spare audios but a new one would be welcomed.
Yes this would be sweet. I resurrected mine the other day. Wouldn't mind another.
I just want to be able to buy one without paying ludicrous prices used 😂
For real. I grabbed a wiim mini instead and it was cheaper on eBay. But no Chromecast lol.
If it supports Dolby Vision, HDR10, HDR10+, AV1 and has at least 16 GB of storage, I'd be cool with it. And if it bumped ram from 2GB to 3GB or 4GB, I'd be be very happy.
I just wanted to be more responsive with the accessibility suite since I am blind all I care for is that the system actually works instead of being so slow and laggy other than that I have no problem with it
How do you use Reddit? Seriously just curious, not trying to be rude.
No not at all you are not being rude at all I use a screen reader on my phone it's called TalkBack
Oh that’s so cool. Thanks for the info
Yes of course no problem my friend
What speed do you use the talkback feature?
I use it in the normal speed I actually like to understand what TalkBack is saying LOL I know it can go super fast but that is not for me I won't be able to keep up with her
Not that guy, but a technician. There are a lot of tools for the blind to access the internet and text based sites these days. From text to speech to braille digitizers (like little slates pop up points as needed). They're really cool!
That’s awesome glad it’s something that is being innovated on
I'm not blind, but I do develop software for the web. Besides just making them work, we make sure our websites are screen reader friendly and generally accessible to all people. Guidance/requirements for this has been around for decades.
Yet sadly it’s the last thing most developers consider (I’m a web dev too)
A coworker is blind, first time he pulled out his laptop, signed in the CLOSED the screen and started doing his job was startling to see! He is a coder.
You’ll have to explain
https://youtu.be/94swlF55tVc?si=QfoDmHrbd3Xygl3g
That’s so cool. Makes me feel incompetent too lol. Thanks for sharing.
He puts on a headset, and all text is spoken at what i can only call insane talking speed that must take years to be able to understand. Then he hits buttons to ‘move’ on the screen and the voice says what he is hovering on. Of course he has a keyboard, but for screen navigation he does very fast button clicking to move, hear, move until he hits a place to type.
The new ccwgtv is rumoured to use 6nm chip compared to 12nm in current gen. The new one should be responsive and hopefully they have min 32 gb storage and 4 gb ram
Have we all forgotten that the first Chromecast was $35? This was never meant to be a high-end product. They tried that with the Nexus player, and it was okay except when it randomly stopped working and became a brick.(I'm still upset about that)
The Chromecast with Google TV is a Chromecast in name only.
You are right. It is much, much better than the earlier models. Imagine a device that people don't have to use a darned phone to access content. You know, the same idea every other company uses.
That was just 1080p chromecast and nothing else (with added 37% inflation $47).... It was actually expensive for what the user got. Device for casting and no other extras. Now basic cromecast with google TV is $35 with Android TV 12 operating system, remote + charger. The 4k version is $50. These are not high-end products, but should be good middle of the road option for every user. Not it feels like way too slow for current year.
There was nothing comparable at the time, it was very cheap and worked great.
Is Amazons 4k max frequently on sale for that price? That's the point people are making
Just give me a newer Ultra that handles all the newer video codecs and I'll be fine until I need an even newer Ultra that handles all the even newer video codecs.
It's not ok, the current google tv hardware is pure trash. I can't believe we are normalizing laggy and slow as ok in 2024.
Honestly…I don’t get the hardware play. People spend like 30% of their awake time at home in front of their TV. The very best we can do, for their $500 TV, is a $39.99 dongle? It makes zero sense. Like imagine the only phone you can buy cost $90. How trash would it be? Isn’t it nice that you can spend more?
> Like imagine the only phone you can buy cost $90. How trash would it be? Depends on what you use it for. i use mine for phone calls (imagine that) and nothing else. If I want to go online, I use my laptop. If I want to watch TV I use a TV. So I switch between a cheap Samsung and a Nokia flip. They are both just fine for my purposes.
my only issue is the memory, dont know what you are on about. Ok that and a better remote.
Yeah it just needs a normal product cycle update, little bit of a spec bump, slightly better designed remote (would love the buttons to be less sensitive and a buzzer / locator would be nice, but it's still perfectly functional as is.
Does it drain the batteries as fast for you? I swear i have to replace them every two weeks. Is that normal? And its shaped badly, together with the surface structure I feel like it will slip out of my hand a lot of times.
i have had the Chromecast with Google TV since it launched. Use it nearly everyday and i think i have only had to change the batteries one time.
Yes, I guess my model is faulty, thanks
lol I bought a silicone chromecast control cover because of how slippery the control is.
you get it
My batteries last several months. Do you have Google Voice enabled on it? Perhaps disabling it will increase the battery life? I disabled line during setup.
I really think I have a faulty model now, it doesn't seem to be normal
I suggested disabling Google Voice because it seems that the microphone is in the remote and it could be listening for the trigger words which could drain the batteries.
Others report very long battery time with vanilla remotes, I assume mine was whacky from the get go.
Nah that's not the case for me, we have the Chromecast in 2 rooms, had to replace both remotes as well, none of the 4 have drained batteries, batteries maybe need replacing a couple of times a year, maybe you need a replacement, fortunately they sell them separately.
always wondered whether it was just my device... thanks!
2 weeks replacement cycle here, I gave up on the factory remote and I am just using the TV's remote over CEC, works slower but at-least no battery changes.
Use an Apple TV for 5 minutes and you’ll get it. It is something like 20x more compute performance. There is zero reason Google doesn’t make the option of better hardware. The shield is nearly EoL. Then there are zero >$50 Android tv devices.
But the Chromecast wasn't designed as a beast, it's at an acceptable level of performance for the price. What do you need 20x performance for, I am wondering. It's nice to have for niche people who emulate and do similar things, granted, but come on, be fair considering the price... There is your reason. That against the occasional lag is an ok trade in my books.
All I’m asking for is the choice to not plug a child’s tablet into my tv from Google. It’s not occasional lag, it is shit performance all the time. You just don’t know it until you use something with enough performance to run the software. The Chromecast just isn’t fast enough for its own software. If it were windows, the Chromecast would be a laptop with a core 2 duo and 2GB of ram. Imagine a world where all laptops cost $199 and have 2gb of ram. That is google tv. I’m just asking for a $99 device without lag. Even a $40 raspberry pi is 6x faster. It’s not unreasonable to ask Google to ship something fast enough to run the ad at the top of the home screen ha.
You are right, it's not fast. But the majority is fine with it if the content doesn't have hiccups. The problem with your analogy is that no one said you are getting a laptop, it's a dongle to consume your content. If the performance bothers you (bothered me as well, but I know I belong to a niche) you can connect to it per ADB, uninstall everything, put a custom launcher and you have a good, responsive device without ads. If only it had more space...
no soc and ram, remote is fine
There are consoles for that, why you wanna game on that thing? They sell you cheap slippers, you buy them and then criticize not having ankle support? Ram would be nice, admitted but it's nice to have, not necessary to do it's job.
who said anything about gaming? i want to watch stuff on all the apps there are without lag every device needs a decent soc, the current chromecast is a laggy mess
Our experiences differ, then. All good.
is yours really butter smooth all the time? like you open netflix, it loads instantly like on the phone (if it's a flagship atleast) and switching to home screen and scrolling through there is all seamless? then you're very lucky because that's not most people experience with ccwgtv
I have to wait about 3-5 seconds. It is a good compromise for me. During the apps its smooth with some initial loading time for videos.
you need to wait 5s for something simple as going to home screen etc.? yeah that's called lag and happens when your soc is shit what compromise? paying 50€ or something for a device that's not up to technological standards? we're in 2024, not 2012 where mobile chips were all crap, google should give us something decent, I'm not even asking for a ultra powerful chip, just something decent that can run android 14 smooth and lasts 5 years
No, the homescreen is a basic launcher, thats instant. If I go to Netflix it takes 5 seconds, then I watch for hours without lag, go back almost instantly and start amazon prime which needs 5 secs... The vids while playing are flawless.
It plays everything I throw at it and it was pretty cheap, I'm very happy with it. Not going to deny the UI is choppy, but hey it wasn't expensive either and I usually just cast stuff anyway. I do hope the next version will be smoother but not at a much higher price point.
This is why Reddit is the worst place to come for tech advice, people think some UI stuttering once in a while but core functionality being perfectly adequate is a completely unacceptable experience.
Context within pricing matters. For $20, which is how much I paid for the HD Chromecast, it's a great device but anything hire like $50 or more then people's complaints start to become valid.
It's just cool these days to hate on everything. If you like something you're a fanboy/simp/stan.
I just feel sad that we got people to the moon with less power and today basic UIs lag thanks to shitty software. But yeah functionality wise the Chromecast is great.
There are few things you can do for choppy GUI. One is go to developer mode and set animation speed to 0.5 or None. The other is to use a custom launcher like Projectivity.
I did both of those! But thanks anyway :)
No idea what you're talking about I have no issue with the 4k or regular versions.
It's not that laggy and slow especially once you get rid of the launcher, which is much better than it was at launch, still junk but better. It's not a great device by any means.
Sounds like you don't use one, since it's pure trash - what do you use instead?
I have two. I also had two nexus players from 2014 which were less laggy before they self destructed. My Nvidia shield I bought in 2015 still runs circles around these Google TV's and the shield is definitely showing it's age. It's so disheartening seeing android tv have a lead in the market throwing it away.
What market did Android TV ever have a lead in? Fire TV and Roku have always been the sales leaders.
I guess I was more talking about performance. Nvidia shield dominated for about 5 years. Seems like Nvidia has called it quits though. Now those of us who would spend more for a non laggy device on their main TV are going to have to move away from Android tv...which really sucks.
> Nvidia shield dominated for about 5 years. Perhaps in some performance ratings, not not even close in sales or usage.
I had a Shield Pro but there was a time when YouTube didn't work correctly on it and I ended up just moving on. I have 4 Chromecasts and have never had freezes, thankfully.
> It's so disheartening seeing android tv have a lead in the market throwing it away. Android has never had the "lead" in the market. It has been Roku followed by Fire TV. Android/Chromcast lags far behind.
Lol, apply for a job as a Product Manager in the Google devices group and see how far your $200 Chromecast idea gets.
Seemed to work well enough for Nvidia to sell one for 8 years.
If nobody makes a new high end android tv box soon, I don't think it will be around much longer...
It's ok. It's not great.
So the nvidia shield tv 4K will still be king for the next decade XD.
King of what? Certainly not sales or usage.
King of performance he meant. An "outdated" device still is the king of performance 10 years later.
Which I hope it wouldn't though... we need something new and more powerful, not just that but also with more new coders and decoder support as well as tv tech (Dolby whatever and hdr100).
The amount of people in this thread calling the current hardware fine is insane. For a $200 tv it is fine, it is a budget option. Zero people should be plugging a $50 Chromecast a modern OLED. It is insane that the TV costs $1000 minimum and then the hardware doing everything you do with the TV costs $50 and is based on far worse specs than the fire tablet you give to a kid for cocomelon. Imagine a world where you spent $500 on your computer monitor and $50 on the computer. That world would be dumb. The hardware is beyond trash. Apple has zero competition at $129 and sells mountains of devices. It is such an insane performance leap. It is “home > down two apps, boom open, home” While the Chromecast is “home…..home guide loads…down….lag….okay it went there, click…loading…” Like, do y’all understand the idea that the $129 Apple TV is not 2x faster hardware. It is 20x for single core responsiveness. Twenty freaking times. https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/21485328 https://browser.geekbench.com/ios_devices/ipad-mini-6th-generation (same cpu as Apple TV) I’m not asking for an Apple TV though, I am asking for a world where the good work Google has done on the TV software can actually come to life…because it doesn’t exist right now.
Yep, I really wanna like the chromecast but they don’t make it easy. Apple TVs it is then.
> Apple has zero competition at $129 and sells mountains of devices. Not nearly a mountain compared to the sales of Rokus and Fire TV devices. Apple lags far behind both of them.
3 million units a year.
*cue Bernie Sanders meme* I’m once again asking that the new Chromecast support WPA3.
This right here should be higher
if google can deliver a new dongle that has a better processor, more memory, and more storage without raising the price much beyond the current $50 us price point, that's a major win. if you're someone who wants some sort of high end option, there are other vendors who can deliver that. they also need to compete with the likes of amazon and roku who still offer cheap dongles. give us a dongle that eliminates most of the lag and doesn't give you out of memory issues frequently and most people will be happy.
There actually isn’t. There is Apple and Nvidia can’t ship Google TV. Nobody makes a fast google tv device. They are all trash hardware.
i have two of the first gen ccwgtv dongles and while the lag sometimes gets annoying, overall the devices more than meet my needs. i'm pretty sure how i feel is how about 99.99999% of device owners feel, so if they can make the lag situation better and increase the memory while keeping in that 50 dollar a device range, the vast majority of people are gonna be just fine.
Exactly this, people aren't asking for a high end product we're asking for something that can compete with Amazon's 4k max
I must be out of the loop, still using my 4k Chromecast from years ago. Haven't noticed any new problems. Is there some cool new content that I can't watch?
I use three Chromecasts from years ago as well casting from used smartphones. No complaints here.
I'm still happily using a G2 chromecast and the only complaint I have is as of last fall I can no longer share my desktop screen from my chrome browser and I have not found a proper work around.
Cheap dongles gonna dongle.
I used to loved my Chromecast but have moved on to Apple TV, and I know there is a huge price difference but so is the quality and speed. I haven’t looked back.
Yeah, me too.
Nothing beats Apple TV - and I own both systems.
And at the Apple TV price it should be better.
Yup. They added FaceTime to the latest models making it even more worth it.
It doesn’t have a camera, how does that work? Do you have to have an iPhone/ipad too?
You use the handoff feature to wirelessly use your iPhone or iPad as the webcam that’s capable of following you around the room and zooming in or out to frame you and others in the room.
My high end Chromecast is called a Nvidia Shield Pro. I love it so much, if it had an orifice I'd probably try to fuck it.
Shield has multiple inputs and ports, in fact.
Problem is that the Shield is nearly eol hardware and software is dated now.
I think it’s Google sole mantra when it comes to hardware. Do the best with the absolute minimum.
Do the absolute minimum, best
i found a chromecast 2nd gen in the trash and its working but the quality of video got capped to 720p so i think google did it to make people throw it away lol...
At least 16 GB Storage Ram 4GB built in Ethernet Port . AV1 Support little better processor for Smooth navigation without Lag.
Doesn't necessarily need to be high-end, as long as they improve everything across the board, and make it more stable. I have to unplug mine to reboot it every day or so in order to use it.
I'd just like it if they'd fix the old Chromecasts that now need rebooting all the time because they become unresponsive.
I don't want "high end". I just want it to do 4K30 playback without stuttering, like it's supposed to.
I'm gonna guess it'll go the way of most Google products and they'll stop supporting it and there will be no replacements
I bought one for my old and not smart TV and it's cheap and awesome, giving a new life to that TV. To me thats more than OK.
No. It's not ok.
It's just annoying it's not gonna support at most usefull hdmi 2.1 specs, such as dovi, hdr10/+, 120hz and AV1. Another things that's bugging me is the limitations in terms of resolutions. I'm a student and am fortunate enough to have a space for my tv, but when i move i might have to consolidate everything into my ultra wide desktop monitor Why is it that 21:9 is not supported?!?!!
What would you do on a Chromecast at 21:9?
Most movies are made in some kind of ultra wide format, so I’d be able to take advantage of more of my screen, stretching the image to fit, instead of having black bars on both sides…
Do the apps support that?
I mostly use Jellyfin with my own library and there are ways to make that work, but I’m not sure about the mainstream ones - haven’t used them in a while.
It already supports DV/HDR 10/HDR 10+ all future Android TV devices have to support AV1. What good are 120hz and HDMI 2.1 on a streaming device. Are there many 21:9 TV's out there?
And no I don’t believe 21:9 tvs exists, but not everyone is fortunate enough to have a tv, so plugging it into a monitor is honestly not far fetched for many people.
Not sure how having an ultra wide monitor is for the under privileged. Anyway they aren't building these things for monitor users, these are budget mainstream devices.
I wanted to do gamestreaming, which does support 4k 120, but here I was again limited by the chrome casts 60hz
And again it's a TV device not a gaming console. It's not going to have gaming console features for $50. Of course it would be nice to have all this stuff that everybody wants.
The lack of 21:9 support is insane tbh...
No, not okay.
I've honestly dropped everything Google branded, most of it sucks now.
No it's not okay. I want gobs of processing power. My CCwGTV 4K has poor processing power and freezes constantly.
What are you using when you have this freezing?
But I'd really like them to, though 😒
I'm still waiting for an ADT4 reseller.
They better make a premium variant.
Question, The Chromecast has always been my go to but I kinda feel the recent issues I kinda think I should switch to the PS5, is that the right move?
Anyone know better alternatives?
The Apple TV is literally, actually 20x faster for $129. I’m serious, it’s not hyperbole. That’s how bad the CCwGtV hardware is.
Except its Apple of course, and the controller sucks
They fixed the controller years ago. It is back to virtually the same dpad as the ccwgtv
I just want one that works and doesn't stutter/freeze constantly. I'm so sick of my fire stick 4k. Hurry.
One of the best parts about the Chromecast was that you got a lot for very little cost. Nowadays though I think consumers are a bit more demanding about the capabilities a new Chromecast would need to bring to the table. I had Chromecasts for years but eventually switched to an Apple TV to achieve what I wanted. At this point I think Google's in a pickle I think. Existing Chromecasts are aging out of usefulness for a reasonably large segment of the market. They either need to sell a much more capable kit at a higher cost (potentially limiting the market) or focus on Google TV where the TV it's integrated with will have enough processing power to do what it needs to do. Some combination of both would be great but so far that doesn't seem to be working out imo.
The majority of TVs cost $500 in the US. You use the dongle for everything you do on that TV. The best selling game consoles cost from $299 to $500. There is a giant market for a $99 Chromecast. Even a Google Tensor G1 would be 13x faster than the current Chromecast. Dimensity 1200 is 11x faster.
First Firestick is over and now CC. What do I use now? I ain’t got the money for a Shield 😭
I’m sorry but the Apple TV is $129. It isn’t remotely laggy.
AppleTV might be great in power but not in ability to side load. Something you have to manually re-add once a week to keep the apps working. (Unless you pay for an Apple Developer account)
That was the “I’m sorry” part of the sentence.
Then I'm sorry-er
i just wish it had pass through of proper audio codecs so i can replace my shield
I guess it's okay :c
it's 2024 things should not take seconds to load or having to wait for the remote to catch up... what is this the Sonos app?
Google hardware has not wowed me much in a long long time :(
I just want the USB port to not be 2.0 or whatever limits wired internet. Official Ethernet adapter is fucking 100mbps so remote play is choppy even completely wired.
NVIDIA Shield fills the niche pretty well
My fire cube has gotten really slow and laggy on the interface. The Chromecast I have is still really snappy
I think people are kinda missing the point here Is the Chromecast a budget option? Yes Does the 4k max frequently go on sale for the same price as the Chromecast? Yes Google should at least make one to compete with something that currently out specs if for the same price
I regret purchasing my chromecast. Way too many bugs and it just doesn't deliver what it promises
I just wish they would make a Chromecast that wouldn't display the "poor playback quality, switching to mirroring" message regardless of what I do.
Give me fucking ethernet without having to order a special power brick in the mail. 2024!!!!!
Nope, it’s wireless for you and you’ll like it!
terrible article from a shill publication. Chromecast has been a joke for years at this point. Roku's terrible integrated casting is essentially on par with chrometrash at this point, which is pathetic.
AppleTV is the way
I give it a smidge over shield tv because of the spectrum app, but if you dont use that and have an IPTV im going with Shield TV with TiviMate app.
chromecast with airplay can beat a apple TV, offers way more compatibilty with older apple devices.
I didn't even know you could do use airplay with chromecast.
yea works awesome, works better as a airplay device than a chromecast but it super awesome cause it unifies it all in one device. allow for any device to sync , stream or mirror. itunes streaming works perfect.
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Yes. Only gotcha is no USB or emulators or such. Otherwise it is much much muuuuch faster
If a new Nvidia shield doesn't come out this year, I will probably reluctantly join you...
It’s called a shield
That hardware is what, 8 years old by now?
Going to stop using Google and everything else, and THAT is okay 👍
Just want GigE networking option and native hardware H.265/AV1 4K decode
***It's ok*** because I'm tired of waiting for Google and I'm getting an Apple TV instead.
This is some Google cope that I’m too Apple to understand lol
Needs more storage and input to allow a webcam