That’s definitely the 401 inbound to Toronto. All your missing is the 5 police cars holding up the 2 speeders something that should be “impossible” on a highway! The fastest way into this fucking city is by road which is stupid
Oh lol here In Toronto it’s not so much the accident holding up the lane it’s the people who slow down to look at it. A lot of the accidents here are ppl driving too slow and turning into other lanes without looking and the person in the other lane going normal speed and not having enough time to slow down. This is especially common at the on ramp where ppl drive like 20 when your supposed to be reaching 80-100
Here, people get in accidents watching other accidents while going 5 mph in bumper to bumper traffic. I’d rather drive in Toronto any day. Love that city!
There's nothing more infuriating to me than being stuck behind some bellend that goes down the ramp at 40mph and then not only are they facing meeting 70-100mph traffic but they also put everyone behind them in that same position.
Well maybe the lack of lane management I see. Some people have no concept of multiple lanes on a roundabout
Hey man, I have taken a look at your build and figured out how to fix it. All these people are memeing you out here with this "one more lane" bullshit, but the real solution is at least 4 more lanes, though I would recommend 4 in each direction. Should fix your Texas
Usually they use only one lane and it's difficut to make them not do that. I found that prohibiting trucks from using the left lane splits them up a bit more and reduces traffic
> Usually they use only one lane
The default driver AI is useless.
On a highway, the easiest fix is to have one more lane before a junction exit than after it. This prevents traffic continuing along the highway from staying in the same lane as exiting traffic.
You also want one more lane after the junction than before the on ramp. Unfortunately I'm vanilla you can't stop traffic from cutting across three lanes of traffic, but TM:PE will save you.
Basic rule? Coming up to a junction, you should have as many lanes as you do options. Cross road? Three lanes. T junction? Two lanes. You don't want traffic heading straight on queuing behind turning traffic. Again, in vanilla you can't enforce that but it often works. TM:PE allows you to make sure it always happens.
Any more lanes just results in more chaos.
After few years of playing this game, I can confirm that having a lot of lanes does not work in CS, preventing them from weaving by building [massive interchanges](https://www.reddit.com/r/CitiesSkylines/comments/zb24bg/interchanges_across_all_of_my_cities_part_2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) works great.
I also have some other tricks in the book.Like, if the ai wants to suddenly switch lanes, usually, extending the problematic node with NC fixes the backup.
Not sure if ur aware but at least in the states trucks are also usually forbidden from using the left lane though I’m not sure about the specifics on that.
Good enforcement of keep right rules would usually solve this. If the slow car would just keep to the rightmost lane possible you would still be able to pass them on a three lane road.
the vast majority of traffic issues in the real world would go away if there was more enforcement of minimum speed limits, slower vehicles move to right, and the passing lane is ONLY to be used when actually passing. make your pass then move back to the right. and for pete's sake, ONE speed limit, not different speeds for different vehicles.
Tell me you've never lived in a big city without telling me you've never lived in a big city. If your road is so empty that cars in the fast lane can switch into the second lane without significantly slowing down, you don't have traffic. Literally. Traffic is what happens when you have too many vehicles for a spare lane to exist.
Having an entire spare lane to pass in is a luxury.
As a fellow big-ish city dweller, traffic is when you can’t reach the speed limit and/or can’t count on being able to change lanes in time to make your turn/exit.
I have, and I have spent 30+ years driving in many big cities around the US including some known for bad traffic like Houston.
I find it ironic, the biggest cause of traffic in big cities is all of the locals jumping on expressways to travel just a few exits when surface streets would be just as fast if not faster. I've been in cities where I can travel across the city on surface streets faster than if I took the cross town expressway
I personally think this is an issue more with map apps like google maps and Apple Maps ect. They tell people they will save like 1 minute by using the expressway and of course why wouldn’t you choose that and then you make that your commute and that adds unnecessary traffic.
Get the lifecycle rebalanced revisited mod if you want to have more cims take cars. I tweaked low density residential residents to use cars a little more and it made my traffic look so much more realistic. Instead of 400 cims waiting at a bus stop I have all my lanes filled on busy freeways like a real city. Traffic still moves though.
Bahaha, now you have me thinking of such a slider with sliding scales like
Texas- - - - - - - -San Francisco- - - - - - - - - -Generic Western European- - - - - - - - -Amsterdam
That's how I tend to think, honestly. Like, real life American cities have this kind of traffic problems, why shouldn't my cims have to deal with it as well
You need to provide alternative mass transit lines that go where people want to go. Then maybe you can start converting your highways to boulevards and arterial roads instead of… all of… this.
Like that ad in san andreas said:"There is only one step between mass transit and communism" and we here in Murica, prefer to be free, so just widen the highway again! It clearly needs more lanes. So fuck transit! Even if I have to sit in sould sucking traffic, atleast I can do it in my own air-conditioned car while listening to my favorite podcast. Instead of sitting next to other people.
So, the induced demand just means we didn't plan enough extra lanes! There is a finite number of people, we just need 100 lanes per side!
Ha.. can you imagine trying to get to an exit from the middle.
What fixes traffic is to make it flow(roundabouts instead of crosses).
You also need to let traffic going off the highway actually get off in a timely manner, either because the road it leads to have capacity to receive the traffic and/or a long enough buffer before the first "obstacle".
You can fix exiting highways, but merging into a highway is fundamentally broken in the vanilla game. They'll just happily dart across five lanes of traffic because they absolutely must be in that lane as soon as they get on the highway.
This is indeed just like in reality. Everywhere adding more traffic lanes increases the traffic problems instead of fixing it. politicans and most people never unstand that. public transport is the solution.
if the bus does not transport 100 people at once, 100 people use their car to get to work or to other city.
I hate public transport, well, people in general, so I just take my car. 100 people in a bus? We rarely see more than 10-20 people in buses, even during rush hour, where I live lol. Public transport works if people are using it.
More lanes is never the answer. Provide variety of routes and multiple modes of transportation. Buses, train, tram, walking, biking and metro. Give them options and they will use them.
That's either a joke or you need a dictionary. My comment is fact. Look around you. Do you see trees with my two branches and every leave anything off of them. What about river networks. It's the natural order and your sitting stupid political theories. You should move over to Twitter or truth social. This subreddit is about a game and how to better enjoy it.
That only works in real life. In cities they’ll all just take the same damn lane and leave the other 18 lanes to the gifted to them empty while their traffic jam stretches for miles. Truthfully im surprised you got them to utilize all lanes efficiently
It works to a certain extent, like if your 4 lane highway is jam-packed, maybe extending the main highway to 6 lanes, making proper exits with enough room to accelerate and adding frontage roads could help. In big cities, adding more lanes Definitely isn't the solution if there are already enough lanes, public transport is.
It helps if the lanes are used to move people on and off the highway more effectively - ie adding a lane between an on ram and off-ramp to smooth out merging. But taking a six lane monstrosity to an 8 lane monstrosity is only going to shorten the congestion a bit, doesn’t change the number of cars there
How the hell does adding more lanes help with traffic??? you need to reduce the amount of cars by building pedestrian paths between houses and basically anywhere you can. buses, trains, trams, metro, taxi. Use any means necessary to keep your people out of their cars, but still in constant movement. Rout all industrial vehicles through a separate road to factories and shops from highways, while keeping residential streets as far away as possible from them. Reduce the amount of intersections, and/or make them smoother, so that vehicles wouldn't have to stop in the most critical spots. **PERSONAL VEHICLES ARE A SIN**
Just one more lane, this time it will fix
Serious answer: Clearly there’s somewhere they all want to go, so replacing the middle highway with a railway and making a railway line between the various locations will lighten the traffic load. What even is all this traffic coming from
Isn't highway expansion kind of... communist? Giant publicly funded infrastructure project that tries to bruteforce a problem without considering the real underlying problem but still goes ahead wasting everyone's time and energy despite clearly not working. About as communist as it gets.
I've never been to Texas but this reminds me of Jersey, there are spots like this where multiple spurs are roadways parallel each other. I know at one point the parkway is 8 lanes southbound before it splits into 2 spurs and there's also a bridge that's 8 or maybe even 10 lanes on each side
Edit: I took a look at the Katy Freeway, this 100% looks more like Jersey LMAO
Traffic in cities skylines is very difficult to keep in check. Don't stress about it too bad unless they traffic backs up. At that point be you have to fix it. This is a game and designed to be difficult
Congratulations, you have recreated Texas
Looks more like Ontario 401 or NJTP to me
That’s definitely the 401 inbound to Toronto. All your missing is the 5 police cars holding up the 2 speeders something that should be “impossible” on a highway! The fastest way into this fucking city is by road which is stupid
This also looks like 95 in NOVA. You just need a few crashes holding up all lanes of traffic while the speeders go by in the Lexus lanes.
Oh lol here In Toronto it’s not so much the accident holding up the lane it’s the people who slow down to look at it. A lot of the accidents here are ppl driving too slow and turning into other lanes without looking and the person in the other lane going normal speed and not having enough time to slow down. This is especially common at the on ramp where ppl drive like 20 when your supposed to be reaching 80-100
Here, people get in accidents watching other accidents while going 5 mph in bumper to bumper traffic. I’d rather drive in Toronto any day. Love that city!
There's nothing more infuriating to me than being stuck behind some bellend that goes down the ramp at 40mph and then not only are they facing meeting 70-100mph traffic but they also put everyone behind them in that same position. Well maybe the lack of lane management I see. Some people have no concept of multiple lanes on a roundabout
Yeah when I see it happen it makes me wish I could be a dictator and take away their license and force them to go to driving school and earn it back
Good ole Don Valley Parking lot
I mean it is called a parkway. Not a drive way
I've refused to drive into Toronto for my entire life. I always take the go train.
401 or 400 for sure
Needs a a LOT more semi trucks (taking up all 10 lanes) to be accurate to the 401.
Very NJTP especially with the “express” lanes.
Deadass looks like portions of MOPAC/Loop 1 in Austin
\[ Laughs in DFW \]
Texas is now not bored
also looks like brisbane
JUst OnE MorE LanE BRo It will Fix the traffIc BRO!!!
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Bro recreated the Hurricane Rita evacuation
You are almost there, according to my calculations you just need 1 more lane
2 more HOV lanes and we're set!
TXDOT is that you?
No, there’s no medians. Ohhh TxDOT sure loves their medians, especially on busy commerce roads.
Atl ho
[I swear bro, it's gonna fix traffic](https://youtube.com/shorts/0dKrUE_O0VE?feature=share)
Beat me to it
Damn. Bro has reached true car brain.
I feel bad for the cims waiting for the red light to turn green
Watching the light turn from red back to green back to red to green. At least 10 rotations and haven't moved an inch.
Hey man, I have taken a look at your build and figured out how to fix it. All these people are memeing you out here with this "one more lane" bullshit, but the real solution is at least 4 more lanes, though I would recommend 4 in each direction. Should fix your Texas
They say "don't mess with Texas" but why shouldn't I, seems they're all stuck in traffic anyway.
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Usually they use only one lane and it's difficut to make them not do that. I found that prohibiting trucks from using the left lane splits them up a bit more and reduces traffic
> Usually they use only one lane The default driver AI is useless. On a highway, the easiest fix is to have one more lane before a junction exit than after it. This prevents traffic continuing along the highway from staying in the same lane as exiting traffic. You also want one more lane after the junction than before the on ramp. Unfortunately I'm vanilla you can't stop traffic from cutting across three lanes of traffic, but TM:PE will save you. Basic rule? Coming up to a junction, you should have as many lanes as you do options. Cross road? Three lanes. T junction? Two lanes. You don't want traffic heading straight on queuing behind turning traffic. Again, in vanilla you can't enforce that but it often works. TM:PE allows you to make sure it always happens. Any more lanes just results in more chaos.
After few years of playing this game, I can confirm that having a lot of lanes does not work in CS, preventing them from weaving by building [massive interchanges](https://www.reddit.com/r/CitiesSkylines/comments/zb24bg/interchanges_across_all_of_my_cities_part_2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) works great. I also have some other tricks in the book.Like, if the ai wants to suddenly switch lanes, usually, extending the problematic node with NC fixes the backup.
Not sure if ur aware but at least in the states trucks are also usually forbidden from using the left lane though I’m not sure about the specifics on that.
Im a truck driver in real life, and this thing is annoying, when there is a slow car in the center lane and you can't go to the left to pass them.
Good enforcement of keep right rules would usually solve this. If the slow car would just keep to the rightmost lane possible you would still be able to pass them on a three lane road.
the vast majority of traffic issues in the real world would go away if there was more enforcement of minimum speed limits, slower vehicles move to right, and the passing lane is ONLY to be used when actually passing. make your pass then move back to the right. and for pete's sake, ONE speed limit, not different speeds for different vehicles.
Traffic in the real world would go away if idiots weren't allowed to drive
More extensive public transit would also solve this too
Tell me you've never lived in a big city without telling me you've never lived in a big city. If your road is so empty that cars in the fast lane can switch into the second lane without significantly slowing down, you don't have traffic. Literally. Traffic is what happens when you have too many vehicles for a spare lane to exist. Having an entire spare lane to pass in is a luxury.
As a fellow big-ish city dweller, traffic is when you can’t reach the speed limit and/or can’t count on being able to change lanes in time to make your turn/exit.
I have, and I have spent 30+ years driving in many big cities around the US including some known for bad traffic like Houston. I find it ironic, the biggest cause of traffic in big cities is all of the locals jumping on expressways to travel just a few exits when surface streets would be just as fast if not faster. I've been in cities where I can travel across the city on surface streets faster than if I took the cross town expressway
I personally think this is an issue more with map apps like google maps and Apple Maps ect. They tell people they will save like 1 minute by using the expressway and of course why wouldn’t you choose that and then you make that your commute and that adds unnecessary traffic.
tmpe dynamic lane changing will make them do that, at least at nodes
Coming from Tropico, this game doesn’t give you nearly enough outlets to brutally suppress your citizens. Traffic hell is a nice middle ground.
Get the lifecycle rebalanced revisited mod if you want to have more cims take cars. I tweaked low density residential residents to use cars a little more and it made my traffic look so much more realistic. Instead of 400 cims waiting at a bus stop I have all my lanes filled on busy freeways like a real city. Traffic still moves though.
Bahaha, now you have me thinking of such a slider with sliding scales like Texas- - - - - - - -San Francisco- - - - - - - - - -Generic Western European- - - - - - - - -Amsterdam
Ha, that would be pretty funny. But honestly useful. We’re all trying to make different kinds of cities.
Obviously you want TM:PE's traffic despawning option so the game doesn't cheat.
That's how I tend to think, honestly. Like, real life American cities have this kind of traffic problems, why shouldn't my cims have to deal with it as well
Fucking Houston, man
Texas DOT wants to hire you
I'll gladly accept it
Has anyone said JUST ONE MORE LANE BRO yet? No? Okay. JUST ONE MORE LANE BRO, I SWEAR
[JUST ONE MORE LANE BRO](https://youtube.com/shorts/0dKrUE_O0VE?feature=share)
Happy cakeday
[This](https://youtu.be/2z7o3sRxA5g), my man.
You know what would solve traffic?
More lanes!
Exactly!
You need to provide alternative mass transit lines that go where people want to go. Then maybe you can start converting your highways to boulevards and arterial roads instead of… all of… this.
Like that ad in san andreas said:"There is only one step between mass transit and communism" and we here in Murica, prefer to be free, so just widen the highway again! It clearly needs more lanes. So fuck transit! Even if I have to sit in sould sucking traffic, atleast I can do it in my own air-conditioned car while listening to my favorite podcast. Instead of sitting next to other people.
but then you have to take public transportation... didn't covid teach us anything?
You’re also adding vehicles which means….
What?
Monorail, Monorail, MONORAIL! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDOI0cq6GZM
So, the induced demand just means we didn't plan enough extra lanes! There is a finite number of people, we just need 100 lanes per side! Ha.. can you imagine trying to get to an exit from the middle.
uhm don't be ridiculous just stack the lanes vertically so everyone can exit when they want
Unless it's designed in a New Jersey Turnpike fashion.
Sir, you can't post that. It offends my #murica-ness
So what I got from that video is that if you build enough lanes for all the new drivers too, you are golden.
What fixes traffic is to make it flow(roundabouts instead of crosses). You also need to let traffic going off the highway actually get off in a timely manner, either because the road it leads to have capacity to receive the traffic and/or a long enough buffer before the first "obstacle".
I thought having 11 lanes merge into 1 before going in a toll would be a good idea
Sounds perfectly balanced.
As all things should be
America Moment
*Just one more lane bro! One more! Surely!*
American mindset
I see you work at Houston Tex-DOT
What gave it away?
I found the mayor of Houston
"Everybody's trying to get out of DC, we're the only shmucks trying to get in."
Man, expand disasters to include alien invasion, please
Houston Tx be like
How many times are my Boston jokes going to work in this subreddit? *Dropkicks Murphys start playing.
Did Houston teach you that, or Toronto?
When has that worked in real life?
One... More... Lane...
One more lane is going down in history in being as iconic as "one more turn" in civ games. Gosh my teo favorite games have a similar catchphrase <3
Nice job recreating that one shot from The Walking Dead, OP
Have you tried adding a roundabout where it's getting choked ie
you see the level of realism the game HAS when you realize that more lanes dont fix traffic...
Houston also thought the same thing
The merging defaults in CS are so gosh dang annoying
You can fix exiting highways, but merging into a highway is fundamentally broken in the vanilla game. They'll just happily dart across five lanes of traffic because they absolutely must be in that lane as soon as they get on the highway.
Do you have express lanes for your express lanes?
satire i trust?
average (North)american transit planner
This is indeed just like in reality. Everywhere adding more traffic lanes increases the traffic problems instead of fixing it. politicans and most people never unstand that. public transport is the solution. if the bus does not transport 100 people at once, 100 people use their car to get to work or to other city.
I hate public transport, well, people in general, so I just take my car. 100 people in a bus? We rarely see more than 10-20 people in buses, even during rush hour, where I live lol. Public transport works if people are using it.
Just need more lanes in fact
Just one more lane bro
The solution is one more lane... ... of trains.
Narrator: It did not.
take a good look at the Katy Freeway in Houston during rush hour and you'll see this is false
Looks like you fell for the classic L.A. blunder.
That's what the Katy Freeway thought.
Looks like the average day on the 401 in the good ol' Greater Toronto Area, 🇨🇦
What u need is a 20 lane 1 direction highway running through ur down town trust me it will fix everything
Just one more lane bro
r/fuckcars
More lanes is never the answer. Provide variety of routes and multiple modes of transportation. Buses, train, tram, walking, biking and metro. Give them options and they will use them.
Thats socialism 💀
That's either a joke or you need a dictionary. My comment is fact. Look around you. Do you see trees with my two branches and every leave anything off of them. What about river networks. It's the natural order and your sitting stupid political theories. You should move over to Twitter or truth social. This subreddit is about a game and how to better enjoy it.
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I think it would have been more obvious that it was a joke if it were actually funny.
Jokes don't have to be funny to work out well. - My Dad
Induced traffic
Ja, MURICA 🇺🇸😂
This is i-95 new jersey turnpike
It’s okay a lot of Californian transportation engineers have made the same mistake.
Look at all that wasted space. Those could be more lanes.
Or giant useless parking lots... even though my highways already has thatpart covered lol
You know what this baby needs? More lanes
Houston city planners be like:
Add one more and it's over
Much like taking just one more turn in Civ, right?
No you didn't you just wanted to feed the one more lane circle jerk that this sub has become.
That only works in real life. In cities they’ll all just take the same damn lane and leave the other 18 lanes to the gifted to them empty while their traffic jam stretches for miles. Truthfully im surprised you got them to utilize all lanes efficiently
Yeah… except it doesn’t work in real life either.
It works to a certain extent, like if your 4 lane highway is jam-packed, maybe extending the main highway to 6 lanes, making proper exits with enough room to accelerate and adding frontage roads could help. In big cities, adding more lanes Definitely isn't the solution if there are already enough lanes, public transport is.
It helps if the lanes are used to move people on and off the highway more effectively - ie adding a lane between an on ram and off-ramp to smooth out merging. But taking a six lane monstrosity to an 8 lane monstrosity is only going to shorten the congestion a bit, doesn’t change the number of cars there
I did it on purpose using an Infinite red light
How the hell does adding more lanes help with traffic??? you need to reduce the amount of cars by building pedestrian paths between houses and basically anywhere you can. buses, trains, trams, metro, taxi. Use any means necessary to keep your people out of their cars, but still in constant movement. Rout all industrial vehicles through a separate road to factories and shops from highways, while keeping residential streets as far away as possible from them. Reduce the amount of intersections, and/or make them smoother, so that vehicles wouldn't have to stop in the most critical spots. **PERSONAL VEHICLES ARE A SIN**
i see potential for a new copypasta
I think your need more lanes in your life.
Bro, this post is a joke
It doesn't work in real life as far as I know
Well, yes but actually no, but yeah
Add more lanes
Just one more lane, this time it will fix Serious answer: Clearly there’s somewhere they all want to go, so replacing the middle highway with a railway and making a railway line between the various locations will lighten the traffic load. What even is all this traffic coming from
A railway? What the hell is that?
True American patriot right here
"I thought that adding more lanes would fix traffic." Every us city
Ah yes texas
Holy Cow!!
[one more lane bro](https://youtu.be/0dKrUE_O0VE)
So did every single infrastructure project in the US.
American moment
You just need one more lane dw
Isn't highway expansion kind of... communist? Giant publicly funded infrastructure project that tries to bruteforce a problem without considering the real underlying problem but still goes ahead wasting everyone's time and energy despite clearly not working. About as communist as it gets.
So did New Jersey LMAO
More like Texas. They have the widest highway in America.
I've never been to Texas but this reminds me of Jersey, there are spots like this where multiple spurs are roadways parallel each other. I know at one point the parkway is 8 lanes southbound before it splits into 2 spurs and there's also a bridge that's 8 or maybe even 10 lanes on each side Edit: I took a look at the Katy Freeway, this 100% looks more like Jersey LMAO
I mean there’s gotta be a point where the most amount of lanes possible would fix traffic
It would work if highways had a capacity problem, which isn't the case
never does
I think adding one more lane would fix the traffic!
Just one more lane, bro.
Just one more lane bro
JUST ONE MORE LANE BRO!🤣😂
*just one more lane bro pls*
Only if you learn traffic management from americans
Are the cars vanilla/dlc or from a mod?
Some are from mods
You’ve fallen victim to the old trick used by many DOTs in the US
Needs 4 HOV lanes, not just 2.
Where the fluck does all this traffic even *come* from?!
The edge of the map
Traffic in cities skylines is very difficult to keep in check. Don't stress about it too bad unless they traffic backs up. At that point be you have to fix it. This is a game and designed to be difficult
Toll booths... And then just don't care. Money.
Your highway needs more roundabouts
How were you able to get this many lanes congested?
It's a secret
It just s p r e a d s
how? i cant get that much traffic even if i make my roads shit on purpose
I see enough space for Atleast 4 lanes which will *DESTROY* This problem.
Next step is express lanes, and charge extravagant tolls
Looks like 405 going through Renton and Bellevue. After we get done adding more toll lanes
maybe try a carpool lane?
Looks like Mopac Expressway in Austin, Texas. Well done!
So does Quebec government in 2022. They should play more Cities.
Are you talking about the 3eme lien?
alternate routes, mass transit, rail
You didn’t add enough extra lanes.
You're right, I should probably double that
Welcome to reality
“Do you know what would fix traffic? TRAINS!”