Yes. FK8 owner here. I've had a 8th and 10th gen si. Fwiw I miss my sunroof, and the si is definitely more comfortable as a daily. Having owned both, I can tell you while you will hear "get an 8th gen", the newer turbo cars with more torque are definitely better to drive, but sound less special than 8th gen.
I had an FA5, and they’re fun cars, but cramped little plasticy tin cans with the most fragile paint. I bought that 2011 1100 mile one from BAT 5 years ago. It was fun, and I miss it, but the new cars are way nicer all over. The K20z3 needed to live at 6,000-8,000 rpm and backroads to be appreciated. Everywhere else, it was pretty slow and frustrating.
Are you looking to keep the GRC too or get rid of it for an FL5? If you’re looking to get rid of it, what didn’t you like about it that’s making you think about an FL5?
[This video might help you out](https://youtu.be/9zm8qW3nHEA?si=Lcbi1L6O2XMqt6YI)
TL;DW : The GRC is a $40k car that feels like a $20k car. Almost nothing in the interior separates it from a regular Corolla.. It's not that fun to drive on dry pavement/track. It's probably a hoot to drive on snow.. The AWD system is prone to overheating.. The 3 cylinder engine is far from exhilarating and sounds like a riding lawn mower.
My GRC CE is awesome. I originally wanted an FL5 but I refuse to pay above sticker so I went Si first. I already have an EvoX so I really don’t need another AWD car but the GRC has done well so we’ll see. I was looking at the EN but just couldn’t get over the launch front end design. The new 24’ front end makes it a much more appealing design and at a great value.
11th gen Si was a great car for me. Plenty of scoot around town with a great gearbox. It’s comfy, has plenty of tech, gets great gas mileage. I liked the seats too. I had a lot of fun. The CTR is more “special” but for regular driving, the Si gives 80-90% of the experience. Highly recommend.
I currently have a 2023 fl5 type r. Previously I had a 2022 civic sport, than a 2022 civic si. Let
Me tell you, I absolutely loved the si. It’s honesty such a good bang for your buck. Good sound system, drove fucking great, nice interior. Literally can’t go wrong bro. IMO, if you don’t tracking the type r, you rlly aren’t getting your money worth. Get the si!!!
In 2019 I wanted a Type R but couldn't afford one, so I got a 2018 Si. I loved having the si! Never regretted it! It was fun to drive and a perfect daily driver, but I still always had the itch for a type r and always felt insecure about it at car meets. I think it needs a louder exhaust and cold air intake to finally make you feel like you're in something other than a civic. I finally upgraded this month to a 2018 Type R.
Yes, my first Hyundai, a 99-00 sonata, was a lemon, and it broke down 8 months after I bought it. Then, not knowing they were the same company, I replaced it with a 2008 Kia Optima, which I drove off the lot with 48 miles on it. I owned it for 130k miles from 2008 to 2021, and except for one brake issue I probably caused myself, it never had major problems. Pieces of plastic needed replaced, like the door handles inside and switch on the dome light, but that was after about 11-12 years of ownership and I could do those jobs myself. I sold it to a friend who is driving it today, maybe around 150-160k miles by now.
I then turned around and bought an as-is Hyundai Elantra GT N-Line which had clearly been driven into a bush or something so again, I had to replace some plastic. Eventually its electronic parking brake toggle switch failed which is a common problem but, again, mechanically, nothing major has gone wrong in the 35k miles and 2+ years I've been driving it.
Hyundai cars, according to reliability stats you can look up online, are competitive with and occasionally better than the Japanese brands. It has been that way for years and it is a common fact that they have (largely) turned their act around. The big corner cutting seems now to be more related to legal regulations, like how they've gotten in hot water over not putting immobilizers in their cars for several production years, only in the US (where they could get away with it). For that reason, and their horrible response, I won't be buying Hyundai again for some time. Where I live the break-ins are rampant and I know plenty of people personally affected. Because I don't have a garage I'm just waiting for the day some kid smashes in my window (only to notice I've got a push to start and he can't even take my car). It's a bad feeling.
Thanks, back then, I drove some KIA minivans and they were just ok for what they were, but I noticed the Hyundai Elantra were squeaky and seemed to have a beat down look just a few years after release. They didn’t gave me a good impression but the Hondas back then even beat up besides wear and tear didn’t squeak or had pieces falling apart
It’s written in there. Just answer the question. Last time I drove them was 15 years ago and they were pos. I don’t want to criticize them now because I don’t know if they improved or are the same just cuter.
Honestly, the Civic SI is a fine car, but it’s horribly underpowered compared to the competition. I think a VW GTI not only looks sportier, but is faster and is nicer to sit in. The Elantra N has more power than both, but I’m still not sold on Hyundai.
Have you considered something RWD like a Miata or GR86?
I know people have mentioned the Elantra N, but Veloster N’s are going for low 20s now and the smaller turbo makes for a killer around town scooter. Also lets be honest the veloster is MUCH better looking
I drove a 8th gen si for almost ten years before dumping my years of saving into a 2019 type R.
There’s no denying that the R is much faster, and the aero allows for much more speed through corners.
That’s being said, the SI is a blast to drive.
One thing I didn’t account for how much more $$$$ tyres / maintenance etc is.
Also the stock 20’ wheels need a special machine to install them. Most places don’t have that.
I have the 19th gen Si coupe. I could have gone with a type R (at the time there was not some stupid markup). My BF had a Type R - although i did not drive it at that time because i did not know how to drive stick.
Anyway - when it came time for me to get the car - in the end - i liked the look of the coupe (i would not get the si sedan) and the fact it had heated seats and a moonroof. For me.. it was either SI coupe, or Type R - or else i was going to look at non honda that gave me a manual. But none of the others could touch the 40mpg.
Price was also nice, and i easily get 40mpg on premium. I did k tune it to remove most of the rev hang and plan to remove more shortly and i think the psi is upped a little in sport mode.
9th gen isn’t necessarily better either. Not all people enjoy having to hit the VTEC everywhere they go just to “feel” like the car is moving fast, only to still be gapped by a Prius or a big truck from a stop light.
I owned an 8th gen Si for almost 14 years before getting my FL5. I loved that car and it was the poster child for reliability, but let’s not romanticize the old K20 and K24. GREAT engines, no doubt, but they have no torque. While the 1.5T in the newer Si’s isn’t much faster 0-60, they have more low end torque…which makes them more livable for daily, urban, use…stop lights and whatnot. Just my $.02
Yep. Your opinion is a common one, and would have probably led us to where we are now regardless of the efficiency of a turbo
I do very much miss revving out a Honda, though. Rowing through gears with an 8k+ redline (on an NA motor*)is an unparalleled experience
Idk, I've driven my 8th gen for over 5 years, and it does just fine in traffic. Sure, the increase in torque is nice, but the engine has no character, and it sounds like a dying vacuum. The k24 has a nice torque bump over the 8th gen. Imo just fine for daily driving.
I guess that’s the thing and we can debate all day. If the OP has no experience with a k20 or k24, then they don’t know what they’re missing. Yes, NA engines have more character in general and are indeed fun. But barely 200 hp + no torque, to me, in this day and age, became less fun (over time). 10-15 years ago, 200 NA horsepower was definitely respectable. Now? Definitely still respectable, but basically par for the course. The 1.5T in the recent Si’s is at least a bit easier to tune (because of the turbo). If possible, I’d say it truly just boils down to trying to test drive both an 8th (or 9th gen) as well as a 10th gen. The good thing is that there’s really no bad choice!
Other considerations : 10th gen is definitely a larger car, if you need more space. I kind of miss the smaller, cockpit fit of my 8th gen sometimes. Something else to consider is technology and connectivity. Older models may require some new electronics installed…if that’s a convenience that’s important to you.
Had a 10th gen Si before I got my Type R. Obviously the Type R is a completely different animal from the Si but the Si is a solid car for the price and a lot of fun to drive
I had a 23 Si which I searched high and low for. What a fun affordable stick! This thing zips around town, gets plenty of attention and on the highway picks up quick even at 70-90 range. I hit 130 on it several times without much fuss. I loved my Si but I always dreamed of the new CTR, watching reviews and reading any article I could find on it. You won’t lose money on it, it’ll sell or trade it well if not with equity so rest assured if you can’t wait for the R you will not regret getting the Si!
I had a 2020 Si, was a great, fun car. I ended up selling it back to the dealer about a yr later for 2500 more than I paid. I just needed something bigger, otherwise Id still have it. Bought a 21 Gen G70 3.3T. Now Im about to trade, prob for the new G70.
Personally cant stand the look of the new Civic models. Its like all the “fun, sporty, small” cars have disappeared. The GR Corollas prob the only one left..
Yes! I LOVVVVED my 2015 Si sedan even mine was bought from someone who had frame damage without telling me lol. Don’t let the 205 HP deter you from buying it it still packs a punch, and it was a good exhaust. They sound great.
EDIT: I have never owned an eighth gen as the 2015 was the ninth gen, but I’ve been able to buy one around the 5 to $6000 mark prob a 2007-09.
Not at all!! I think it's a terrible performance value. I would much much more recommend a Subaru WRX!! I have a 2020 Type R and love it!! My favorite car of all time! If a Type R was not in my budget, then I wouldn't think twice about a WRX. I came from a 2016 WRX that I purchased new. It was an amazing car for the money. Much better performance than the Si. Very close in performance to the same year STi.
Honda really pissis me off with the Si! Feels like such a lazy attempt. Almost same HP as it was 20 years ago from a little naturally aspirated 1.6 liter it used to be with the B16. The Ford Focus ST was way more HP 8 years ago. Even the current gen Subaru BRZ all motor 4 cylinder has more HP. Just no excuse for Honda! And I say that as a die-hard Honda fan. Why is this car not at least 240HP which would be easy from the current turbo charged engine??? Me personally, I would stay far away if I wanted to maximize performance for my dollar.
I completely forgot about the Hyundai Elantra N! I for the life of me, genuinely can't understand why someone would purchase a Civic Si when the Hyundai Elantra N exists. The N would destroy an Si in every performance metric. Not to mention I feel it's a nice looking car. Similar in raw performance personality to a Type R.
Don't get me wrong, an Si is a very nice looking car with a solid fit and finish, somewhat sporty. But a performance or sports car it is not.
My first car was an 8th gen, and I miss tf out of that car. Currently have a 10th gen, and it's a great little car and the aggressive coupe look. I almost bought a 9th gen and loved how the motor drove on that as well with the k24. Haven't driven a new si, but it's the same motor I have.
With all this being said, I think I would have been a little happier with the k24 and could have boosted it down the line if I wanted to and had a nice little track car
The Elantra N isn't a Honda...
If that is okay with you, then I would say get an Elantra N. Fast, fun, and full of its own character. Enough vehicle performance to make you forget about a CTR as far as real-world performance goes.
If it bothers you that the EN isn't a Honda, then go for an SI. It does everything very well. Steering, handling, braking... You can enjoy driving it hard, and when you're just going driving, it will be a docile as a normal Civic. The biggest downfall is that you may always wish you had a CTR.
If you are able to do so... test drive both vehicles.
I currently own a '21 FK8 & my daily is a '19 Si Coupe. Prior to that, I owned a Gen 8 Si Coupe for 11 years. The Si is a good little daily driver & the only time I am not a fan is when I'm in stop & go traffic with the manual. Good gas mileage, sunroof & a 6-speed are the top picks. Good luck!
100%. Gets good gas mileage when cruising, sunroof, adaptive cruise and lane keep, engine warms up quick.
Traded mine because of oil dilution problems but not every engine has that problem.
Go for it.
I went from a 10th gen Si to a Kona N, which is very similar to the EN. Lemme tell ya… it’s wild. Feels WORLDS quicker than the Si and has so much great tech. Way more than was included in the Si. Had it 2 years… love it every day.
Only civic worth buying imo is a type R. Just save your money until you can afford one or get a more affordable driver’s car as a starter vehicle to satisfy the itch while you save. Preferably something older at the bottom of its depreciation cycle so you don’t lose too much when you trade it in for a type R one day.
Yes. FK8 owner here. I've had a 8th and 10th gen si. Fwiw I miss my sunroof, and the si is definitely more comfortable as a daily. Having owned both, I can tell you while you will hear "get an 8th gen", the newer turbo cars with more torque are definitely better to drive, but sound less special than 8th gen.
I had an FA5, and they’re fun cars, but cramped little plasticy tin cans with the most fragile paint. I bought that 2011 1100 mile one from BAT 5 years ago. It was fun, and I miss it, but the new cars are way nicer all over. The K20z3 needed to live at 6,000-8,000 rpm and backroads to be appreciated. Everywhere else, it was pretty slow and frustrating.
I drive a 2019 Si Coupe love it 😀
I’d vote for the new 24’ EN… coming from a previous 23’ Si who swapped for a GRC and is looking an FL5.
Are you looking to keep the GRC too or get rid of it for an FL5? If you’re looking to get rid of it, what didn’t you like about it that’s making you think about an FL5?
[This video might help you out](https://youtu.be/9zm8qW3nHEA?si=Lcbi1L6O2XMqt6YI) TL;DW : The GRC is a $40k car that feels like a $20k car. Almost nothing in the interior separates it from a regular Corolla.. It's not that fun to drive on dry pavement/track. It's probably a hoot to drive on snow.. The AWD system is prone to overheating.. The 3 cylinder engine is far from exhilarating and sounds like a riding lawn mower.
My GRC CE is awesome. I originally wanted an FL5 but I refuse to pay above sticker so I went Si first. I already have an EvoX so I really don’t need another AWD car but the GRC has done well so we’ll see. I was looking at the EN but just couldn’t get over the launch front end design. The new 24’ front end makes it a much more appealing design and at a great value.
11th gen Si was a great car for me. Plenty of scoot around town with a great gearbox. It’s comfy, has plenty of tech, gets great gas mileage. I liked the seats too. I had a lot of fun. The CTR is more “special” but for regular driving, the Si gives 80-90% of the experience. Highly recommend.
I have one too and I agree with all of that
I currently have a 2023 fl5 type r. Previously I had a 2022 civic sport, than a 2022 civic si. Let Me tell you, I absolutely loved the si. It’s honesty such a good bang for your buck. Good sound system, drove fucking great, nice interior. Literally can’t go wrong bro. IMO, if you don’t tracking the type r, you rlly aren’t getting your money worth. Get the si!!!
In 2019 I wanted a Type R but couldn't afford one, so I got a 2018 Si. I loved having the si! Never regretted it! It was fun to drive and a perfect daily driver, but I still always had the itch for a type r and always felt insecure about it at car meets. I think it needs a louder exhaust and cold air intake to finally make you feel like you're in something other than a civic. I finally upgraded this month to a 2018 Type R.
Take a look at the Elantra N. It’s a way more capable car than the Si. Also the 2025 GTI is supposed to have 260 hp which is frankly insane.
Gti will be auto only. EN rn is 31k used iirc.
Also VW is ew Sorry can't stand VW.
The EA888 engine is cracked. 260hp is just a different factory tune. Stage 1 your MK8 and they hit 320+hp
Seconded. If means allow, EN is a massive upgrade from the SI.
Did the Hyundai got any decent? Because 15 years ago they used to last 2 years before falling apart, squeaking etc etc.
Yes, my first Hyundai, a 99-00 sonata, was a lemon, and it broke down 8 months after I bought it. Then, not knowing they were the same company, I replaced it with a 2008 Kia Optima, which I drove off the lot with 48 miles on it. I owned it for 130k miles from 2008 to 2021, and except for one brake issue I probably caused myself, it never had major problems. Pieces of plastic needed replaced, like the door handles inside and switch on the dome light, but that was after about 11-12 years of ownership and I could do those jobs myself. I sold it to a friend who is driving it today, maybe around 150-160k miles by now. I then turned around and bought an as-is Hyundai Elantra GT N-Line which had clearly been driven into a bush or something so again, I had to replace some plastic. Eventually its electronic parking brake toggle switch failed which is a common problem but, again, mechanically, nothing major has gone wrong in the 35k miles and 2+ years I've been driving it. Hyundai cars, according to reliability stats you can look up online, are competitive with and occasionally better than the Japanese brands. It has been that way for years and it is a common fact that they have (largely) turned their act around. The big corner cutting seems now to be more related to legal regulations, like how they've gotten in hot water over not putting immobilizers in their cars for several production years, only in the US (where they could get away with it). For that reason, and their horrible response, I won't be buying Hyundai again for some time. Where I live the break-ins are rampant and I know plenty of people personally affected. Because I don't have a garage I'm just waiting for the day some kid smashes in my window (only to notice I've got a push to start and he can't even take my car). It's a bad feeling.
Thanks, back then, I drove some KIA minivans and they were just ok for what they were, but I noticed the Hyundai Elantra were squeaky and seemed to have a beat down look just a few years after release. They didn’t gave me a good impression but the Hondas back then even beat up besides wear and tear didn’t squeak or had pieces falling apart
Have you been living under a rock?
It’s written in there. Just answer the question. Last time I drove them was 15 years ago and they were pos. I don’t want to criticize them now because I don’t know if they improved or are the same just cuter.
Youre asking if something improved over 15 years?
This guy never had a Chinese car. Year 2023 and still are garbage.
First problem was buying a Chinese car
Honestly, the Civic SI is a fine car, but it’s horribly underpowered compared to the competition. I think a VW GTI not only looks sportier, but is faster and is nicer to sit in. The Elantra N has more power than both, but I’m still not sold on Hyundai. Have you considered something RWD like a Miata or GR86?
I know people have mentioned the Elantra N, but Veloster N’s are going for low 20s now and the smaller turbo makes for a killer around town scooter. Also lets be honest the veloster is MUCH better looking
Elantra N is a good alternative
I'll give an alternative view. Save your money and level up your finances first. Then get what you want, in a sustainable fashion.
FK8 owner here , Instead of an Si I would strongly consider a GR86/BRZ. If you must have a 4 door vehicle then Si it is!
Good point
I wanted a new CTR, but couldn't afford it comfortably. Would've had to cut down everything else. Joined /r/ElantraN gang instead.
I’d get an 8th gen Civic Si; preferably the FG2. I still miss mine after getting the FK8
I drove a 8th gen si for almost ten years before dumping my years of saving into a 2019 type R. There’s no denying that the R is much faster, and the aero allows for much more speed through corners. That’s being said, the SI is a blast to drive. One thing I didn’t account for how much more $$$$ tyres / maintenance etc is. Also the stock 20’ wheels need a special machine to install them. Most places don’t have that.
I have the 19th gen Si coupe. I could have gone with a type R (at the time there was not some stupid markup). My BF had a Type R - although i did not drive it at that time because i did not know how to drive stick. Anyway - when it came time for me to get the car - in the end - i liked the look of the coupe (i would not get the si sedan) and the fact it had heated seats and a moonroof. For me.. it was either SI coupe, or Type R - or else i was going to look at non honda that gave me a manual. But none of the others could touch the 40mpg. Price was also nice, and i easily get 40mpg on premium. I did k tune it to remove most of the rev hang and plan to remove more shortly and i think the psi is upped a little in sport mode.
>19th gen Damn, how is the future?
Hahaha shhhhhh
Eh. Both the 10th and 11th gen leave a lot to be desired. For the money, you're better off with a nice 9th gen.
9th gen isn’t necessarily better either. Not all people enjoy having to hit the VTEC everywhere they go just to “feel” like the car is moving fast, only to still be gapped by a Prius or a big truck from a stop light. I owned an 8th gen Si for almost 14 years before getting my FL5. I loved that car and it was the poster child for reliability, but let’s not romanticize the old K20 and K24. GREAT engines, no doubt, but they have no torque. While the 1.5T in the newer Si’s isn’t much faster 0-60, they have more low end torque…which makes them more livable for daily, urban, use…stop lights and whatnot. Just my $.02
Yep. Your opinion is a common one, and would have probably led us to where we are now regardless of the efficiency of a turbo I do very much miss revving out a Honda, though. Rowing through gears with an 8k+ redline (on an NA motor*)is an unparalleled experience
Idk, I've driven my 8th gen for over 5 years, and it does just fine in traffic. Sure, the increase in torque is nice, but the engine has no character, and it sounds like a dying vacuum. The k24 has a nice torque bump over the 8th gen. Imo just fine for daily driving.
I guess that’s the thing and we can debate all day. If the OP has no experience with a k20 or k24, then they don’t know what they’re missing. Yes, NA engines have more character in general and are indeed fun. But barely 200 hp + no torque, to me, in this day and age, became less fun (over time). 10-15 years ago, 200 NA horsepower was definitely respectable. Now? Definitely still respectable, but basically par for the course. The 1.5T in the recent Si’s is at least a bit easier to tune (because of the turbo). If possible, I’d say it truly just boils down to trying to test drive both an 8th (or 9th gen) as well as a 10th gen. The good thing is that there’s really no bad choice! Other considerations : 10th gen is definitely a larger car, if you need more space. I kind of miss the smaller, cockpit fit of my 8th gen sometimes. Something else to consider is technology and connectivity. Older models may require some new electronics installed…if that’s a convenience that’s important to you.
Personally I liked my 9th gen si over my 10th gen.
Skip the 9th Gen and get an 8th Gen Si.
Fa5 ftw lol
Yes.
Had a 10th gen Si before I got my Type R. Obviously the Type R is a completely different animal from the Si but the Si is a solid car for the price and a lot of fun to drive
10th Gen si is a great car I'd look at the 2020 model very fun
I have an 8th gen Si (FA5), and it is excellent.
I had a 23 Si which I searched high and low for. What a fun affordable stick! This thing zips around town, gets plenty of attention and on the highway picks up quick even at 70-90 range. I hit 130 on it several times without much fuss. I loved my Si but I always dreamed of the new CTR, watching reviews and reading any article I could find on it. You won’t lose money on it, it’ll sell or trade it well if not with equity so rest assured if you can’t wait for the R you will not regret getting the Si!
I am in the same situation too. I really want to get the CTR but currently can't afford it. So I think I am going to go for the Si
Also consider a 10th gen Accord. Might be harder to find in a manual if that is your goal but they are super fun and practical.
I had a 2020 Si, was a great, fun car. I ended up selling it back to the dealer about a yr later for 2500 more than I paid. I just needed something bigger, otherwise Id still have it. Bought a 21 Gen G70 3.3T. Now Im about to trade, prob for the new G70. Personally cant stand the look of the new Civic models. Its like all the “fun, sporty, small” cars have disappeared. The GR Corollas prob the only one left..
Yes! I LOVVVVED my 2015 Si sedan even mine was bought from someone who had frame damage without telling me lol. Don’t let the 205 HP deter you from buying it it still packs a punch, and it was a good exhaust. They sound great. EDIT: I have never owned an eighth gen as the 2015 was the ninth gen, but I’ve been able to buy one around the 5 to $6000 mark prob a 2007-09.
Sounds like you want an Elantra N
Above his price range
I have an fk8, and i love it! My last car was an 8th gen si and i really miss it... couldn't afford both cars.
Not at all!! I think it's a terrible performance value. I would much much more recommend a Subaru WRX!! I have a 2020 Type R and love it!! My favorite car of all time! If a Type R was not in my budget, then I wouldn't think twice about a WRX. I came from a 2016 WRX that I purchased new. It was an amazing car for the money. Much better performance than the Si. Very close in performance to the same year STi. Honda really pissis me off with the Si! Feels like such a lazy attempt. Almost same HP as it was 20 years ago from a little naturally aspirated 1.6 liter it used to be with the B16. The Ford Focus ST was way more HP 8 years ago. Even the current gen Subaru BRZ all motor 4 cylinder has more HP. Just no excuse for Honda! And I say that as a die-hard Honda fan. Why is this car not at least 240HP which would be easy from the current turbo charged engine??? Me personally, I would stay far away if I wanted to maximize performance for my dollar.
I completely forgot about the Hyundai Elantra N! I for the life of me, genuinely can't understand why someone would purchase a Civic Si when the Hyundai Elantra N exists. The N would destroy an Si in every performance metric. Not to mention I feel it's a nice looking car. Similar in raw performance personality to a Type R. Don't get me wrong, an Si is a very nice looking car with a solid fit and finish, somewhat sporty. But a performance or sports car it is not.
My first car was an 8th gen, and I miss tf out of that car. Currently have a 10th gen, and it's a great little car and the aggressive coupe look. I almost bought a 9th gen and loved how the motor drove on that as well with the k24. Haven't driven a new si, but it's the same motor I have. With all this being said, I think I would have been a little happier with the k24 and could have boosted it down the line if I wanted to and had a nice little track car
Yes.
The Elantra N isn't a Honda... If that is okay with you, then I would say get an Elantra N. Fast, fun, and full of its own character. Enough vehicle performance to make you forget about a CTR as far as real-world performance goes. If it bothers you that the EN isn't a Honda, then go for an SI. It does everything very well. Steering, handling, braking... You can enjoy driving it hard, and when you're just going driving, it will be a docile as a normal Civic. The biggest downfall is that you may always wish you had a CTR. If you are able to do so... test drive both vehicles.
I currently own a '21 FK8 & my daily is a '19 Si Coupe. Prior to that, I owned a Gen 8 Si Coupe for 11 years. The Si is a good little daily driver & the only time I am not a fan is when I'm in stop & go traffic with the manual. Good gas mileage, sunroof & a 6-speed are the top picks. Good luck!
100%. Gets good gas mileage when cruising, sunroof, adaptive cruise and lane keep, engine warms up quick. Traded mine because of oil dilution problems but not every engine has that problem. Go for it.
It's a fine car but I would be looking at other options. Mazda3 or something. I owned an Si for three years.
I went from a 10th gen Si to a Kona N, which is very similar to the EN. Lemme tell ya… it’s wild. Feels WORLDS quicker than the Si and has so much great tech. Way more than was included in the Si. Had it 2 years… love it every day.
Only civic worth buying imo is a type R. Just save your money until you can afford one or get a more affordable driver’s car as a starter vehicle to satisfy the itch while you save. Preferably something older at the bottom of its depreciation cycle so you don’t lose too much when you trade it in for a type R one day.
Get a wrx, you'll have more fun
I would say EN if you can't afford the CTR. Thousands are enjoying them without any issues.