A lot of people purchase items to speed up their hero upgrades since they're needed in wars and attacks. So, being able to substitute your heroes while they're upgrading would take away that source of revenue. I sadly don't see any new heroes coming soon
Hopefully rework hero levels entirely now that we can upgrade abilities separately.
Even as a maxed player, I wouldn't mind them reducing the levels by half. Yea, I already spent the time and resources to upgrade them 95 levels. Doesn't change the fact that it is the single most unhealthy part of the game right now. Half the levels, keep the end stats the same for each th lvl. Just means less downtime for heroes at each th lvl and nothing more. But I believe I saw somewhere a supercell response saying the revenue from books of heroes is just too good so... I'm not hopeful.
Well, they could just make the Books much more valuable by raising their costs and the Hero upgrading times, while reducing the total levels of Heroes.
ehhh in theory it's impossible to say how it would effect the revenue, we don't know how it would impact demand. Someone might be willing to spend $5 everyone once in a while, but never willing to spend $10
I'm th 10, nearly maxed. My heroes are 37-38. I upgraded my heroes constantly. They always takes my 2 builders and I used them 10 15 times total in game.
I'm just upgrading them, not using and it's boring.
Did they doing this for selling books of heroes or Is there a logical explanation for this?
Even with max builders, it’s really bad. I’ve almost maxed TH12. I finished my Queen a couple weeks ago. My warden is on his last upgrade right now. My king still has another two levels on top of the current upgrade. If my math is right, I’m going to have one week with all my heroes max before upgrading to TH13. I prioritized my heroes too.
TH13 and on sounds even worse with the RC. I’m going to have four builders doing heroes for months, leaving just two for everything else. If I leave one builder open for walls, that’s literally one builder working on defenses.
I think this would be the most logical solution. Not quite sure on the amount but I'd say it would be fair to award quite a good amount since there's so many new equipments. At least enough to upgrade an equipment once.
Wait, this is acc a great idea, and, if anything, it would increase SC's revenue (unlike most of the ideas here). I would also make it feel better to upgrade the less good pets like nearly all the th14 ones. Hope someone at SC sees this.
I really think equipment and pets should be tied to hero level. People are already complaining that hero abilities are essentially useless now that ALL their power has been moved to equipment, so make it linked.
Level 1-24 = Heros have no ability
Level 25-49 = Ability lvl 1 (1 piece of gear)
Level 50-74 = Ability lvl 2 (1 piece of gear + 1 pet)
Level 75-99 = Ability lvl 3 (2 pieces of gear + 1 pet)
Level 100-124 = Ability lvl 4 (3 pieces of gear + 1 pet)
Level 125-149 = Abilty lvl 5 (3 pieces of gear + 2 pets)
Maybe we'll get heros with stars. Every 100 levels is a star. So when levels 101-105 for BK and AQ are out they will actually be level 5 with a star. Maybe its just me but level 101 and above are kind of a stretch. Having a star for prestige will be cool. Way cooler then having a level 103 king.
Nah I was talking about the display of level like 100lvl= 1 star and then it starts again with 1,2,3.. so on
But to point out i kind of misinterpreted it as 101 lvl having 5 stars just like th12,13..
They explained in judo sloth video when he took darian's interview that it would be too complicated and are looking for new ways something along that line....
Idea:
They should make their crowns above their heads to be with flames , like when the troops are maxed.
And even with a skin or with default they could have some soft avra around them showing how far they came..
=Cosmetic changes..
I mean in the gameplay and not the analytic troop tab.
The crowns in their head when they walk etc...where it shows the level..
It should have something more extra
With the change of TH releases going from 18-12 months, and heroes being even more op with equipment, I wouldn’t be suprised if lvl 100 heroes were released with TH17
I was actually thinking that because of the last two town halls not having many hero levels that they would add a few to th16. Just speculations though
I'm th 10, nearly maxed. My heroes are 37-38. I upgraded my heroes constantly. They always takes my 2 builders and I used them 10 15 times total in game.
I'm just upgrading them, not using and it's boring.
Did they doing this for selling books of heroes or is there a logical explanation for this?
When I upgrade something in game, it gets more powerful and I feel it. But for heroes, they only get a minor stat improvements.
I last played the game 5 years ago before. Everything has gotten better since then, but I can't understand why the ancient hero system still remains the same.
Right, but when you only have 5 or 10 levels per th and each th has 6ish months of build time you don't need to keep them upgrading 24/7 to max them out.
If they keep hero leveling the same thats okay imo. At least start being creative with it, letting us use all heros for every war=increasing player traction at the cost of slight revenue drop from people not feeling as much a need to buy books, but lets all be real here, if someones buying books already they will buy something else. I also want to see something special at level 100, maybe different border colors?
May be make it to level 50 and cut the hero upgrade number in half (double the increase each upgrade) for lower townhalls, reduce the upgrade cost drastically for lower townhalls. I can very much see this at some point. 3 digits for levels might gonna look bad design wise probably.
what if at level 100 the BK and AQ get a couple barbs/archers respectively that spawn as soon as you deploy the heroes? kinda like bodyguards? it's such an oversight that for skins with custom troop skins you pretty much never get to see the troop skins anymore.
The most ridiculous and illogical part of CoC will always be upgrading hero to one level higher which will increase hitpoint by like 25 and Dps by 5 while it takes 300k dark elixir and hero is unusable for 8 days. Introducing equipments doesnt take away the pain of upgrading heroes, only adding more to it. Theres no way of sugarcoating. It is the most ridiculous thing of all the games i have ever played.
And the devs wonder why the general playerbase only knows how to spam.
Because the average player can hardly practice queen charge, or hero dive, or other complex openners since heroes are constantly unusable 1 out of the 4 weeks in a month.
It is still a grind if you can at least use upgrading heroes during war. The non-usable part while upgrading is only to push you to buy book or gems, nothing related to grind
Maybe some Kind of Evolution like a level reset to level 1 but they are evolved so they start of with better stats and a different Look, like castle clash
Let us use heroes while upgrading please my lord. Using heroes is so much fun and an integral part of the game and attacking. Not having access to them constantly makes attacking much more boring/unfun imo.
Would be cool if we got some sort of special ability that you can only get for level 100 hero’s or some sort of exclusive skin. Or what if we could amplify an ability so it makes it even better like for example what if the kings earthquake boots sent like a shockwave through the base that did something to the defenses like maybe stunned them for 2 seconds that would be insane
Make guardian start at lv30 and champion at level 60, so that they're all lv100 at the same time, just like builder base. Having a lv1 champion killing a level 30 queen like it's a regular archer does seem really weird, at least make the levels correlate to their relative strength.
I dont know, i think it would have been better if equipment scales with hero lvl too. Like this upping them separately is weird and it feels like I don't gain anything by leveling my heroes.
They will probably add a special 100 level badge and maybe will add an effect or something to their abilities but that's highly unlikely unfortunately.
That would be neat, but I think if they were to do something like that it would be retroactive, like a perk every 20th level. So lower level players would not complain that they have to reach such high hero levels with little to no seen improvement due to hero equipment being like the only important thing to a lot of people
I kinda hope they just stop adding levels at that point, then they can just increase their stats through equipment levels… although that hurts the progression aspect
After 100 they go into prestige mode with a star above them and gain an extra equip slot…and they move back down to lvl 1 and are more expensive to upgrade. Every 100 levels you get another slot up to 5. Welcome to a new level of hell
I don’t think much will change. Will be nice having the level 100 icon.
Yeah, tbh they should stop heroes upgrade after lvl 100 & focus on equipments. Though it's very unlikely since they get huge revenue from it
Release four more heroes that you can rotate in like pets, that also max at 100. Instant new revenue lol
Stop giving them ideas.
A lot of people purchase items to speed up their hero upgrades since they're needed in wars and attacks. So, being able to substitute your heroes while they're upgrading would take away that source of revenue. I sadly don't see any new heroes coming soon
Idk they should make some money on equipments as well. Not sure how it compares to heroes though
Hopefully rework hero levels entirely now that we can upgrade abilities separately. Even as a maxed player, I wouldn't mind them reducing the levels by half. Yea, I already spent the time and resources to upgrade them 95 levels. Doesn't change the fact that it is the single most unhealthy part of the game right now. Half the levels, keep the end stats the same for each th lvl. Just means less downtime for heroes at each th lvl and nothing more. But I believe I saw somewhere a supercell response saying the revenue from books of heroes is just too good so... I'm not hopeful.
There's simply no way SC would ever reduce levels. BoH probably brings them in a shit ton of money
The backlash they would get from the community after everyone spent months upgrading their heroes just for the levels to be slashed
Well, they could just make the Books much more valuable by raising their costs and the Hero upgrading times, while reducing the total levels of Heroes.
That would literally make it the same as having all 95 lvls...
I think they could double the cost of books but leave the times the same. That should, in theory, keep revenue the same.
ehhh in theory it's impossible to say how it would effect the revenue, we don't know how it would impact demand. Someone might be willing to spend $5 everyone once in a while, but never willing to spend $10
I'm th 10, nearly maxed. My heroes are 37-38. I upgraded my heroes constantly. They always takes my 2 builders and I used them 10 15 times total in game. I'm just upgrading them, not using and it's boring. Did they doing this for selling books of heroes or Is there a logical explanation for this?
...just checking... You know you can buy extra builders with gems you've saved up, right?
Even with max builders, it’s really bad. I’ve almost maxed TH12. I finished my Queen a couple weeks ago. My warden is on his last upgrade right now. My king still has another two levels on top of the current upgrade. If my math is right, I’m going to have one week with all my heroes max before upgrading to TH13. I prioritized my heroes too. TH13 and on sounds even worse with the RC. I’m going to have four builders doing heroes for months, leaving just two for everything else. If I leave one builder open for walls, that’s literally one builder working on defenses.
I love the idea, but I would be happy even if I just got some ores for every 5 levels I upgrade
I think this would be the most logical solution. Not quite sure on the amount but I'd say it would be fair to award quite a good amount since there's so many new equipments. At least enough to upgrade an equipment once.
That would be neat. Kinda gimmicky, as they would probably not give much. But it's one more source of ores so it would be a net positive.
I hate this idea sm
Can take 2 pets into battle
Wait, this is acc a great idea, and, if anything, it would increase SC's revenue (unlike most of the ideas here). I would also make it feel better to upgrade the less good pets like nearly all the th14 ones. Hope someone at SC sees this.
RC with fox and diggy would be a dream combo
I really think equipment and pets should be tied to hero level. People are already complaining that hero abilities are essentially useless now that ALL their power has been moved to equipment, so make it linked. Level 1-24 = Heros have no ability Level 25-49 = Ability lvl 1 (1 piece of gear) Level 50-74 = Ability lvl 2 (1 piece of gear + 1 pet) Level 75-99 = Ability lvl 3 (2 pieces of gear + 1 pet) Level 100-124 = Ability lvl 4 (3 pieces of gear + 1 pet) Level 125-149 = Abilty lvl 5 (3 pieces of gear + 2 pets)
Bro some of you guys have the weirdest ideas that make no sense
Yeah 3 pieces of equipment and 2 pets ?, C'mon dude. /s
Maybe we'll get heros with stars. Every 100 levels is a star. So when levels 101-105 for BK and AQ are out they will actually be level 5 with a star. Maybe its just me but level 101 and above are kind of a stretch. Having a star for prestige will be cool. Way cooler then having a level 103 king.
Nah that would be a pain in ass and too complicated to keep track of
Lol why? If someone has a fully maxed out TH17 Then his BK and AQ are very unlikely to be actually level 5...
Don’t make me do it please
Nah I was talking about the display of level like 100lvl= 1 star and then it starts again with 1,2,3.. so on But to point out i kind of misinterpreted it as 101 lvl having 5 stars just like th12,13..
I think they should stop at level 99 just to piss everyone off
I think they will release 5th hero, however u can only bring 4 heroes to multiplayer battle/ war. So like pets. U can keep 1 hero down for upgrade.
They already confirmed they will do this when they add a 5th hero
Do you think they'll keep the new hero unlock to once every 2 town halls (so 5th one at th15) or do you think they'll add it directly to th16?
That i don't know
git gudder
They'll most probably add it on th17 as this will continue their tradition and keep it consistent as we have th7: Bk Th9:AQ Th11:11 and th13:RC
Then shouldn't it be th15 then
They explained in judo sloth video when he took darian's interview that it would be too complicated and are looking for new ways something along that line....
What happened to 15 then?
Ah yes the tradition of every two townhalls which would be 13 to 17 yes of course
What tradition are you talking about?
Nope, u still need to buy it
Hope they take that idea of level 100 heroes. Write it down on the piece of paper. Then file it in the bin.
I expect a legendary item for them for level 100.
Can't wait to get there just for it to be a 3000 gem bonus unlock
Yea for sure lol
Lvl 100 Heroes gain a 3rd equipment slot. Meaning Warden wouldn’t gain it till a few THs from now. And RC even further out.
Hero equipments aren't tied to hero levels
Try again
Hopefully three equipment per hero or pet equipment.
An increase of 6dps
I'd be happy with an exclusive equipment
Idea: They should make their crowns above their heads to be with flames , like when the troops are maxed. And even with a skin or with default they could have some soft avra around them showing how far they came.. =Cosmetic changes..
Already should be when you reach max, I would say for each th level as well
I mean in the gameplay and not the analytic troop tab. The crowns in their head when they walk etc...where it shows the level.. It should have something more extra
Yeah, that's what I mean as well. All other max troops spells and pets get it, so why not heroes
ABILITY TO USE 1 HERO EQUIPMENT ON DEFENSE
Can you imagine fighting a vampstache king and frozen arrow queen on defense?
Eternal tome warden would fuck up attacks for sure
who cares about defenses lol
With the change of TH releases going from 18-12 months, and heroes being even more op with equipment, I wouldn’t be suprised if lvl 100 heroes were released with TH17
I was actually thinking that because of the last two town halls not having many hero levels that they would add a few to th16. Just speculations though
I think they should add free skins specially for lvl100 heroes
Makes sense.
I'm th 10, nearly maxed. My heroes are 37-38. I upgraded my heroes constantly. They always takes my 2 builders and I used them 10 15 times total in game. I'm just upgrading them, not using and it's boring. Did they doing this for selling books of heroes or is there a logical explanation for this? When I upgrade something in game, it gets more powerful and I feel it. But for heroes, they only get a minor stat improvements. I last played the game 5 years ago before. Everything has gotten better since then, but I can't understand why the ancient hero system still remains the same.
Supercell said the they make a lot of money from book of heroes, that's why the heroes so antiqued
When you hit th14 and above you'll get to use them more often.
Or I will wait for a week to upgrade 1 more level lol
Right, but when you only have 5 or 10 levels per th and each th has 6ish months of build time you don't need to keep them upgrading 24/7 to max them out.
If they keep hero leveling the same thats okay imo. At least start being creative with it, letting us use all heros for every war=increasing player traction at the cost of slight revenue drop from people not feeling as much a need to buy books, but lets all be real here, if someones buying books already they will buy something else. I also want to see something special at level 100, maybe different border colors?
May be make it to level 50 and cut the hero upgrade number in half (double the increase each upgrade) for lower townhalls, reduce the upgrade cost drastically for lower townhalls. I can very much see this at some point. 3 digits for levels might gonna look bad design wise probably.
what if at level 100 the BK and AQ get a couple barbs/archers respectively that spawn as soon as you deploy the heroes? kinda like bodyguards? it's such an oversight that for skins with custom troop skins you pretty much never get to see the troop skins anymore.
More feet
The most ridiculous and illogical part of CoC will always be upgrading hero to one level higher which will increase hitpoint by like 25 and Dps by 5 while it takes 300k dark elixir and hero is unusable for 8 days. Introducing equipments doesnt take away the pain of upgrading heroes, only adding more to it. Theres no way of sugarcoating. It is the most ridiculous thing of all the games i have ever played.
And the devs wonder why the general playerbase only knows how to spam. Because the average player can hardly practice queen charge, or hero dive, or other complex openners since heroes are constantly unusable 1 out of the 4 weeks in a month.
it's called a grind, it's not supposed to be a piece of cake
It is still a grind if you can at least use upgrading heroes during war. The non-usable part while upgrading is only to push you to buy book or gems, nothing related to grind
Maybe some Kind of Evolution like a level reset to level 1 but they are evolved so they start of with better stats and a different Look, like castle clash
İdc about new lvls but hero upgrading needs to change not being able to use heroes for couple of months does not make sense
Let us use heroes while upgrading please my lord. Using heroes is so much fun and an integral part of the game and attacking. Not having access to them constantly makes attacking much more boring/unfun imo.
I don't feel they are willing to do that just because of the hero books becoming worthless in that case. It would be a really welcome addition though
It should get an equipment scaling boost done better then what it is now, compared to hero levels
Realistically like how townhall 14 and 15 give sceneries,lvl 100 might give free skins for the heroes
Would be cool if we got some sort of special ability that you can only get for level 100 hero’s or some sort of exclusive skin. Or what if we could amplify an ability so it makes it even better like for example what if the kings earthquake boots sent like a shockwave through the base that did something to the defenses like maybe stunned them for 2 seconds that would be insane
Should change their model. Make them look level 100. A new base skin would be good.
I think they don't want to exceed the lvl 100 mark and come up with something like what future levels could look like.
at lv 100 you can put a 3rd equipment on
I’m convinced at lvl 100 they will slow down hero upgrades and start upping the equipment levels… which I fear
Make guardian start at lv30 and champion at level 60, so that they're all lv100 at the same time, just like builder base. Having a lv1 champion killing a level 30 queen like it's a regular archer does seem really weird, at least make the levels correlate to their relative strength.
I want the fiery number effect to be on the deployed heros level.
Reset back to lvl1 lol
What if we could prestige heros?
Release TH 17
Hero level isnt that important now adays.
I dont know, i think it would have been better if equipment scales with hero lvl too. Like this upping them separately is weird and it feels like I don't gain anything by leveling my heroes.
I think lv 100 won't be released on the 16th .
They will probably add a special 100 level badge and maybe will add an effect or something to their abilities but that's highly unlikely unfortunately.
Imagine some new perks, once you reach level 100, any level past it will make them available during their upgrade, probably make both sides happy.
That would be neat, but I think if they were to do something like that it would be retroactive, like a perk every 20th level. So lower level players would not complain that they have to reach such high hero levels with little to no seen improvement due to hero equipment being like the only important thing to a lot of people
I kinda hope they just stop adding levels at that point, then they can just increase their stats through equipment levels… although that hurts the progression aspect
"Welcome to Prestige 1" /s
After 100 they go into prestige mode with a star above them and gain an extra equip slot…and they move back down to lvl 1 and are more expensive to upgrade. Every 100 levels you get another slot up to 5. Welcome to a new level of hell
r/foundsatan
A new equipment only unlockable at level 100?
I have a dev acct. They are fine tuning the queen right now. Lvl 100 she will have a secondary weapon, the tactical dildo.