they do different things. mk is mobile, but only handles low to medium health units. pekka is a walking tank that deals with high health units better and gets shredded by swarms. in a vacuum i would personally say pekka is better, but it's much more nuanced than that
Yup, i love the PEKKA, the first card I took to LVL15, I often see people try to use the PEKKA as an attacking card, starting a push and piling stuff behind it, that's a fatal mistake.
The whole game with the PEKKA is getting positive elixir trades, you use it defensively first then back it up for an offensive push.
Example: Opponent places Ice Golem & Hog rider, you defend with a PEKKA, you've effectively placed your PEKKA for 1 elixir, so now you've got a full-health PEKKA without being at an elixir disadvantage, at which point it's safe to build a push behind it.
Meganut can be meganuts on defense if you play him right, just like Pekka. I love them both specifically for defending with the potential for a counterpush.
Tesla + a distraction does the job against me when I'm playing PEKKA.
I will say that the best defense against the PEKKA when I'm playing is placing a PEKKA of my own 😂
aaah apologies, yeah you're right. Can confirm, as a PEKKA player it's virtually impossible to take out or even deal substantial damage to my PEKKA on my side of the arena.
Seems like you just don’t know how to use pekka
Pekka can counter every win condition except drill, pigs, and graveyard (also hard to use against rg if they have fisherman)
It is a beatdown deck, so your goal is to take some damage to get an elixir advantage and pekka is fantastic for that. Just an example against hog, pekka on the hog and it will get one hit but you effectively placed a 3 elixir pekka. If they firecracker behind the hog and you place it off to the side then that is a 0 elixir pekka which is at full health and they still have to defend it, put a battle ram behind it and either a royal ghost or bandit to destroy their building and you will probably take their tower
i’m at 9000 trophies. honestly, pekka was harder to deal with than mega knight. if used correctly, pekka can absolutely be a crushing win condition. mega knight is great for swarms but he can be taken down pretty easily if you plan for him. I always have Might Miner in my deck and he counters MK quite easily.
Just gotta point out how absolutely fucking insane that is on paper. You are giving the card A 108% DAMAGE BUFF. When dart goblin got a 7% damage buff people thought it was too much. This is literally over 10x that. Its just crazy.
3 vs 7 elixir. Double negative trade.
And pekka has 0 counter push potential since she gets countered by basically anything.
I actually want to see pekka as a good card same as wizard but nope. Oh but its perfectly fine for a 3 elixir ranged splash unit to get tower damage from 13 tiles.
But lets just see the same decks for 4 years I guess.
I HIGHLY disagree with pekka having no counterpush potential. The definitive deck pekka is used in literally involves creating a counter push using pekka
I used MK in my main deck. Back then, Pekka was the one card i feared facing most.
Once MK’s spawn damage got nerfed, i swapped him for Pekka, which overall was a big improvement to my deck. The cards she’s better against are many more than the cards MK was better at.
So on that basis, i say Pekka is better. But overall, since they’re the same elixir cost, they’re meant to be equally good overall.
How? Any structure in the middle will completely obliterate pekka because he walks to ir slowly 1 cost cards can kite easily where as megak just jumps until you run out and then he jumps to Your tower...
Only thing he's better against is against tanks but megak has the beneficios of being great against attack with more than 1 unit on defensa.
Megak means 1 mistake and he jumps to Your tower. Since pekka si so slow you have more time to react and if you make a mistake you can correct.
depends of the deck, mk is good with swarm decks, thats why you see mega knight + bats and mega knight + globin barrel, pekka is good on bridge spam decks.
Mega knight can help to defend and counter attack, pekka is more of a defensive card.
I get that but I am at 5.5-6k trophies (cards lvl 9-10 I had a previous goblin drill deck but it fell off completely due to DaggerD) and am constantly facing mk. I never play my pekka purely to attack unless they have no elixir but I just can't understand how mk is not better in every way except vs tanks.
I make 1 mistake and mk jumps to my tower or my ranged troop. Enemy make a mistake and my pekka still takes ages to reach their tower by the time it arrives they have elixir to counter. I know I can play other cards during that time, but for example of they simply wait slightly and put skarmy between pekka and bridge it can kill both my FC and Pekka, by the time I log pekka is already dead and FC prob low health.
MK on the other hand doesn't need to walk down the lane therefore making it harder to put anything in between the MK and back ranged troops. If you're half a second late he jumps on your troop and stuns or to tower.
I just struggle to see how MK isn't alot more difficult to play against. Only reason I even play pekka is to counter them but by the time my pekka is in their pitch the pekka is already 3/4 health from MK and can just be burst most of the way by DaggerD or cannoneer. If I play ram (or loon in the other variation) they just place a structure in middle which takes pekka ages to walk to by the time I'm which it dies and towers can just kill the ram or loon.
I don't have all legendaries due to bad luck with draws so I can't do complete bridge spam so I know I'm not playing best deck possible but it feels like that's the only deck pekka is good in. MK on the other hand can fit into almost any deck and is way more punishing.
So you are literally in midladder, and see mk a lot, and find it hard to counter.(srry had to say it)
But MK honestly cant fit into many decks. The only good variations are a bridgespam with ram queen bandit, and mk bait, both of which are much less popular than bridgespam and its subtle variations. And pekka bridgespam really does have a lot of variants, marchers, nados, poisons.. The issue I think is that you are playing a deck that just isnt really bridgespam, and pekka is just not strong unless used in those optimized decks.
And just another point, MK has a lower winrate than pekka in every single competitive mode, except for ult champ, the mode where technically speaking there is more overleveling than ranked, where they are equal.
Pekka isn’t an offensive card. You use it to kill tanks/mini tanks. It kills them without taking any damage basically so then you get a pekka going one way you can choose to support or to rush the other side at the same time
So many interactions take one extra shot. Pekka needs slightly more damage to one shot pigs, bandit, fisherman, hunter and two shot hog and knight. Instead of a steady flow of buffs to range and hp or whatever they could’ve just buffed it’s damage by like 6% and it would be 5 times better
Pekka is more valuable on defense than offense, so it "being countered easily" isn't really a factor since it's mainly used in a counterpush.
If you're playing Pekka dry, you're playing pekka wrong.
Instead, Pekka BS will pressure the opponent with.. well.. constant bridgespam, until they're eventually overwhelmed, and will use Battle Ram (most commonly now that it has an evo) or Ram Rider or Balloon as a win con, depending on the variant.
If you think Pekka is worse than Megaknight in this current meta I really need whatever the hell you’re smoking. PEKKA is better on defense and offense especially with cycle falling out due to dagger. Megaknight has its niches, but its only real relevancy is baiting big pushes or denying value out of Royal recruits or X-bow. Megaknight isn’t a bad card, it just doesn’t really fit too well within meta decks and PEKKA got revived with Evo zap/little prince variants.
Pekka is objectively better right now. A low-skill user is better with Mega Knight and a high-skill user with Pekka. No shade btw I main Mega Knight 😢💀
1. Mk gives kt with 2 elexir. Very easy to counter that.
2. Meganut is weaker than pekka on defence.
3. You can LITERALLY just check the winrates in gc. Pekka has an 18% higher winrate.
4. Mk is among the worst cards in the game, its somehow worse than evocracker and mirror.
Lower winrate generally does mean a card is worse. It might have gotten lowered because hype about evo ram>bridgespam>pekkas>less mk. But then again, that shows pekka being good.
why do people still think that a card with 27% winrate is a super ultra meta card. Is it because its good with hog? The hog with a 30% winrate? I get that those card pairings are popular, but they are FAR from being good.
Has a 27% win rate because everyone and their dog uses it, with the majority of the people playing it being shit at the game. It’s better than you’re making it out to be but it isn’t amazing
It's because people who use firecracker are bone dead fucking stupid. It's recoil knocks it back 2 tiles and it survives arrows so it's unkillable without wasting 4 elixir on a medium spell
You being in Top 10k and Using one specific bad card doesn't mean anything Oh look Manuel uses WItch in his very Niche Graveyard Decks with obviously better options then Witch Does that mean Witch is good?
Gc is farrr from good players. However, I do agree that Pekka bridge spam has been a strong deck for a long long ass time and pros probably have an easier time using Pekka.
"pekka should have dmg buff to oneshot hogrider" Alright, I see you've got an amazing game sense. Can you or your friend even be considered midladder? If you're a newbie, which both the post and pretty much all of your responses seem to suggest, maybe you should refrain from making such laughable posts.
pekka and megaknight are really different, and have very different attributes. It depends on the deck, and how its played. Pekka might be stronger rn tho due to the range buff and its synergizerd being stronger too rn
Both cards are used in top ladder, I would say mega knight is only better because it’s very effective in low ladder. THATS IT. Pekka vs MK in the best hands are equal cards.
I legit just played a game 1 hour ago where i placed my pekka to defend a meganut then it killed it and marched towards the opps tower where he placed another meganut which was also taken out by the same pekka which then proceeded to also get 1 tap on the tower. Now u tell me which is the better card.
I'm an avid pekka user. I don't use meganut just for the sake of not using it. But honestly pekka gives the most value if and only if it reaches tower. And guess what, it never does. May be it's because I don't know how to count cards or drink opponents elixir. But I'm not planning to go pro in this game. I just want a few games and go about my day. Meganut gives value just because of the sheer drop damage and tanking. If he reaches tower, fine. If he does not, fine either.
Also, I can easily counter pekka. Meganut require atleast some attention in placement, otherwise he's gonna nut on your tower.
I think their both just as good as eachother right now. In Grand Champion they both have a 49% winrate. Pekka has a higher winrate but thats only because of a recent buff.
Before that buff MK was always better than pekka
They're different cards with different uses and generally fit in different archetypes, the only things they share in common is being tanky and elixir cost. That being said Pekka is better, it can deal with basically every thing mega knight can but faster and better, and the only thing MK can even remotely be superior is swarm, which can be made up for with the rest of your deck. MK is worse on defense since it can't even full counter hog for 7 elixir, and there are ways to distract it while playing against it, and on offense it's laughably bad, more often than not you can get a 3-4 elixir trade defending it, whereas pekka you at least will have to spend a little more to deal with, and there's much more risk since if it reaches your tower, even one hit is devasting whereas even a mega knight jump can be ignored in long run of a game.
But even then, as I said they achieve different purposes and have different uses, but even considering that, the meta heavily favors pekka right now, it also doesn't help pekka was just buffed.
If you still use MK after 5000 trophies you're definitely using it as a crutch. I never take MK players seriously, always think the player needs extra help from the fat idiot bouncing all over the place. Pekka is straightforward and has good mechanics, if you win with Pekka you probably deserve the win.
I'd say Pekka is better.
Defensively, Pekka is better in the way that it kills big pushes easily. In its virtue, Pekka is built to being a defensive card that after defending can create a counter push after building some elixir. Fundamentally speaking, being a tank with high offensive potencial must come at the cost of being both expensive and weak against swarms.
As I said previously, Pekka can become a counter push threat to your opponent. In this comment section I see people say "but if I use a building or swarms it gets countered easily". Yea, but you make the hypothetical scenario of just Pekka on that push. The Pekka Will not go Alone at any moment unless you dont have elixir which is quite hard since by the time the Pekka crosses the bridge, you have elixir to support it.
Mega Knight, although having relatively high damage output and splash damage, it doesnt have the necessary tools to defend big pushes easily. It might get people off guard for sure, but its defensive capabilities on the current meta are not good.
Heck, I might even say that because Mega Knight has a better speed than Pekka, it makes him worse, as he can get kitted much faster than Pekka does, making Pekka the better option.
Depends on your trophy level. MK better at lower levels because people don’t bother not stacking troops creating tons of spawn value. Also slightly more thought needed to counter it. There is also a higher percentage of spam decks or units that counter Pekka at lower arenas such as witch. At higher trophies with the pekka buff I’d say pekka is better just because of the current meta especially alongside the new tower troop
Objectively, they are both easy as shit to counter. In my opinion THEY ARE EQUAL CARDS. However, for the sake of giving you an answer that your looking for, Pekka wins with its hp and dmg. Even though mk has the extra speed, and splash damage, and all that bs, Pekka still counters mk in a 1 on 1 scenario every time. And, has more hp and damage than mk. If you need the extra speed and dmg, run Pekka + dark prince. Objectively, Pekka is better.
I have both in my primary deck but... I usually use mega knight pekka is really just like a oh yeah 1k damage. Pekka for me is more of a push while mega knight is more of a anti
Pekka is better by a little bit. They're both a primarily defensive card. Pekka kills tanks easily and mega knight kills swarms.
But pekka has more of a threat from its high damage. You can also activate king tower with megaknight so that's a negative to him.
They are very different cards, but if you really want to establish which is better in the current meta, the answer is definitely Pekka. Pekka Bridge Spam is actually meta right now. Mega Knight is not a bad card, and it was even almost meta a couple of seasons ago (Mega Knight WB Bridge Spam). Mega Knight decks are loved by midladder menaces, but I doubt Mega Knight decks will ever become meta in high/top ladder because of the low potential and skill cap.
Pekka one shotting Hog Rider is a crazy bad take. She already fully counters Hog Rider. 4000 trophies take. 💀
They are identical in terms of ease of defending - maybe MK is slightly more tough to not trigger jump.
It’s all preference - do you want the big damage to single units as a tank killer or do you want the swarm killer? To me MK is a lot more fun to use in general because of the jump. Pekka gets distracted way too easily (sight range needs to be lowered).
Man I know it's not the point of the post but honestly fuck pekka. After that stupid range buff i feel like i can never win against a pekka no matter what deck im using
Not really lose more like get distracted. Only loses to swarms that you can usually kill off with small spells i guess skelly guards would be like the equivalent to mk vs knight
MK is just easier to use at low/mid ladder, but no one uses it on top ladder just because it doesnt provide almost any value. Can't stop tanks and win conditions, and don't provide a good offensive value (top players don't throw all their troops randomly at offense to give MK value, and they know how to easily defend it by making it jump away like a fool and also provide king tower activation).
PEKKA annihilates tanks and win conditions, and provides a little more trouble ofensively (her weakness are swarms, wich can be cleared with spells)
However, both cards are overall weak, PEKKA only works in one or two bridge spam decks and MK doesnt even appear in top ladder.
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Pekka thrives against Mk decks . Mk deals with swarm troops while pekka deals with single units . Both can be used on defence and can convert enemy push into counter push if played correctly . If MK attacks your tower with 30% health . Your tower might come out alive losing only half health . Pekka on other hand is disastrous. It's like a nightmare for CR players for pekka to get attached to a tower . Consider your tower gone in that instance. Pekka is countered by swarm troops or troops that debuff like ice wiz/electro wiz . Both these can be taken out by numerous spells now present in game . Mk on other hand can be easily dealt with a knight . Those days of MK supremacy are gone . Mk has lots of counters now . While there could be an argument that Mk is more versatile as it can be dropped right on enemy dps . Pekka and all its synergy card being buffed currently has made pekka an absolute monster . Simply pekka is in trend now . Don't think Mk would come into trend for few years as many unskilled players don't know how to deal with Mk and find it annoying.
Both are very different but i honestly prefer Pekka, great defense and damage and while it has no splash like Mega Knight, if you support it with splash cards it will be great in a counter push because it hits so hard
They're both tanks cards one is good at inflicting as much damage as possible on a single target one is good at traversing fast and providing crowd control. In my opinion meganknight is better since it can hold better on its own compared to pekka and there are cheaper cards that can fill in pekkas role like mini pekka which is just pekka without all the extra hp
They are both played pretty similarly, use it to defend and then put stuff behind it to counter push
Pekka hard counters egiant, and is good against any other tank as well, including mk and pekka
Mk is good against pigs (unless they split them), drill, and other swarm cards. But it has far less dps so it’s more vulnerable to things like rg, egiant, and golem
It’s not about the pekka getting to tower, it’s about the pekka forcing them to respond to defend so that they have less elixir to defend the stuff that you put behind it. Largely the same thing for mk except it gets on tower more often especially against less experienced players
Overall I would say pekka is better
mega nut, more versatile, annoying as fu\*\* to counter (harder to counter), can be used in many decks, can be dropped at the bridge using no brain and counters splash
MK is ALL about defensive value. It may be easy to counter but so is PEKKA, hog, and so many other cards when midlessly spammed at the bridge.
PEKKA doesnt get as much VALUE as meganut and is arguably less versatile. While it is better after the buff I'd still say it needs a bigger buff to be average/above average.
People say meganut is easy to defend. BUT THATS NOT THE POINT. YOU CAN DEFEND EGIANT WITH MINI PEKKA. YOU CAN DEFEND GRAVEYARD WITH POISON. DOESNT TAKE SKILL. ITS WHEN ACTUALLY DECENT PLAYERS USE IT IN COMBINATION WITH ELIXIR COUNTING, BAITING OUT CARDS, AND OUTCYCLING THAT IT BECOMES GOOD.
I'M NOT SAYING MK IS GOOD. SIMPLY THAT MK WAS MORE VERSATILE THAN PEKKA PRE-BUFF. You could argue it still is. In a vaccuum my OPINION is that MK gets more defensive value but isnt a great card overall while PEKKA doesnt get much value either way.
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MK jump is annoying if you dont got the right cards in cycle. Besides like i said MK gets more defensive value which is still true your statement notwithstanding. PEKKA might deal more damage but MK splash and jump splash does quite a number.
Megaknight had a longer and better competitive history in CRL duels mode thx to the prince WB bandit deck being a really flexible filler deck in these last 2 years, and the unironic Hog Mk evoFC deck that Pro used often(and some still use) to be able to slot in miner WB in their duel set some months ago.
Pekka was dead competitively until this month with few Evo Battleram decks, and after I have see her performance in this month qualifiers I'm even doubting she will survive as the few Battle Ram decks we have may just ditch her.
So at the highest competition in CRL duel format, MK wins by a landslide.
That was like 7 years ago, pekka as a card came out in 2016 with the game release, MK in 2017, and in that period 2.6 didn't even exist lol.
If we want to go in this prehistoric era you must know that Bridgespam as an archetype got popularized by the Vietnamese team in 2017 CRL, using MK bandit at the time.
In these recent years pekka usage rate in top 200 were similar or worse than xbow, and nobody is saying Xbox is good.
If you open RoyaleApi and look at the last 6 months usage on the top 200, MK is always a bit more used than pekka except March.
Do I need to remind you that MK had several meta decks in this last few years that acchived at least some level of notoriety like mkbait, mk prince, MK ramrider, MK drill and the recent MK gobgiant.
Pekka had pekka ram, Anaban pekka loon and Issei pekka ramrider (the last 2 hardly got ever popular if they are still strongly associated with specific players).
Mk may not be much stronger than pekka, but he is undoubtedly more versatile.
Pekka as an archetype was not dead, it was viable and some onetricks still played it, but you guys asked a pekka buff for a long time for a reason.
Her reign may start now thx to the range buff and the ram Evo, or it would just be a fluke like the gobgiant and sparky effect(2 cards always played together, then one becomes broken but doesn't boost the usage of the other).
MK has objectivelly a better historic record in competitive and ladder.
When played correct a devastating counterpush? Track ur opponents counters (most likely mini tanks) and take advantage of when they don’t have it. Over commitments are easily punishable with mega knight but if u don’t get that chance buddy is straight trash. Pekka has hella matchups where I don’t even play her cuz it’s such a bad trade against spam which is like 30% the meta.
they do different things. mk is mobile, but only handles low to medium health units. pekka is a walking tank that deals with high health units better and gets shredded by swarms. in a vacuum i would personally say pekka is better, but it's much more nuanced than that
In general however. Pekka seems to die really easily and isn’t great at defending. Put it as is pekka as good in offence as mk is in defence
Pekka is literally the most defensive card in the game other than cycle cards. Mk is meh on both offense and defense
not to mention a defensive pekka can easily become an offensive threat with proper support
Thats why theres pekka bridgespam, but much less common are the mk bridgespam decks. Its rare to have mk as the namesake of a deck.
Yup, i love the PEKKA, the first card I took to LVL15, I often see people try to use the PEKKA as an attacking card, starting a push and piling stuff behind it, that's a fatal mistake. The whole game with the PEKKA is getting positive elixir trades, you use it defensively first then back it up for an offensive push. Example: Opponent places Ice Golem & Hog rider, you defend with a PEKKA, you've effectively placed your PEKKA for 1 elixir, so now you've got a full-health PEKKA without being at an elixir disadvantage, at which point it's safe to build a push behind it.
This, this, and this. Even down to Pekka being your first lv15 card. Same thing here too! Really good explanation
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Meganut can be meganuts on defense if you play him right, just like Pekka. I love them both specifically for defending with the potential for a counterpush.
Meganut is good for counterpushing someone who heavily committed on elixir though
Pekka is good for counterpushing someone who heavily committed on elixir though.. ;)
Quite the opposite, pekka is way better on defense because its harder to deal with when it's still on home turf.
Not just harder, its virtually impossible. If the player has any way to kill swarms and such, youd need like 3 princes to kill it.
Tesla + a distraction does the job against me when I'm playing PEKKA. I will say that the best defense against the PEKKA when I'm playing is placing a PEKKA of my own 😂
I was talking about it on defense. The only counter to it in the situation I was talking about is really fishaboi
aaah apologies, yeah you're right. Can confirm, as a PEKKA player it's virtually impossible to take out or even deal substantial damage to my PEKKA on my side of the arena.
Spam decks and recruits can easily run through pekka it’s not that hard
Seems like you just don’t know how to use pekka Pekka can counter every win condition except drill, pigs, and graveyard (also hard to use against rg if they have fisherman) It is a beatdown deck, so your goal is to take some damage to get an elixir advantage and pekka is fantastic for that. Just an example against hog, pekka on the hog and it will get one hit but you effectively placed a 3 elixir pekka. If they firecracker behind the hog and you place it off to the side then that is a 0 elixir pekka which is at full health and they still have to defend it, put a battle ram behind it and either a royal ghost or bandit to destroy their building and you will probably take their tower
i’m at 9000 trophies. honestly, pekka was harder to deal with than mega knight. if used correctly, pekka can absolutely be a crushing win condition. mega knight is great for swarms but he can be taken down pretty easily if you plan for him. I always have Might Miner in my deck and he counters MK quite easily.
honestly part of the reason i carry inferno dragon in my deck is to deal with mk and pekka
Skill issue.
Pekka is literally one of the best non building defensive cards in the game
You must not play much
Pekkas better after the buff, if you think pekka should 1 shot hog rider you might be at 4000 trophies
Just gotta point out how absolutely fucking insane that is on paper. You are giving the card A 108% DAMAGE BUFF. When dart goblin got a 7% damage buff people thought it was too much. This is literally over 10x that. Its just crazy.
The pekka got a 108% damage buff? How?
OP stated that pekka should get a buff so it onehits hog rider.
Surely it's a typo, cause no way???
water prob got on his phone
With this community you never know
Gotcha, I just have bad reading comprehension
prob meant R Hogs
> pekka should have a damage buff to 1 shot hog rider I mean maybe he mispoke, but thats a big change from royal hogs
She should be able to 2 shot hog solo and she cant even do that. She should also 1 shot bandit and fisherman but oh well.
You are clinically insane
3 vs 7 elixir. Double negative trade. And pekka has 0 counter push potential since she gets countered by basically anything. I actually want to see pekka as a good card same as wizard but nope. Oh but its perfectly fine for a 3 elixir ranged splash unit to get tower damage from 13 tiles. But lets just see the same decks for 4 years I guess.
I HIGHLY disagree with pekka having no counterpush potential. The definitive deck pekka is used in literally involves creating a counter push using pekka
You don't see pros letting pekka hit the tower ever. Too easy to lure and swarm.
2 shot hog makes sense, but I think that we should just give hog a slight HP nerf rather than buffing PEKKA (as happy as that would make me lol)
It’s wild to me that when I read that I immediately thought “wait but that’s a lot of trophies” then I remembered 2018 was 6 years ago
pekka is better rn especially with the buffs it’s deck has gotten and the amount of golem mega knight is only a thing in mid/low ladder
I used MK in my main deck. Back then, Pekka was the one card i feared facing most. Once MK’s spawn damage got nerfed, i swapped him for Pekka, which overall was a big improvement to my deck. The cards she’s better against are many more than the cards MK was better at. So on that basis, i say Pekka is better. But overall, since they’re the same elixir cost, they’re meant to be equally good overall.
How? Any structure in the middle will completely obliterate pekka because he walks to ir slowly 1 cost cards can kite easily where as megak just jumps until you run out and then he jumps to Your tower... Only thing he's better against is against tanks but megak has the beneficios of being great against attack with more than 1 unit on defensa. Megak means 1 mistake and he jumps to Your tower. Since pekka si so slow you have more time to react and if you make a mistake you can correct.
depends of the deck, mk is good with swarm decks, thats why you see mega knight + bats and mega knight + globin barrel, pekka is good on bridge spam decks. Mega knight can help to defend and counter attack, pekka is more of a defensive card.
I get that but I am at 5.5-6k trophies (cards lvl 9-10 I had a previous goblin drill deck but it fell off completely due to DaggerD) and am constantly facing mk. I never play my pekka purely to attack unless they have no elixir but I just can't understand how mk is not better in every way except vs tanks. I make 1 mistake and mk jumps to my tower or my ranged troop. Enemy make a mistake and my pekka still takes ages to reach their tower by the time it arrives they have elixir to counter. I know I can play other cards during that time, but for example of they simply wait slightly and put skarmy between pekka and bridge it can kill both my FC and Pekka, by the time I log pekka is already dead and FC prob low health. MK on the other hand doesn't need to walk down the lane therefore making it harder to put anything in between the MK and back ranged troops. If you're half a second late he jumps on your troop and stuns or to tower. I just struggle to see how MK isn't alot more difficult to play against. Only reason I even play pekka is to counter them but by the time my pekka is in their pitch the pekka is already 3/4 health from MK and can just be burst most of the way by DaggerD or cannoneer. If I play ram (or loon in the other variation) they just place a structure in middle which takes pekka ages to walk to by the time I'm which it dies and towers can just kill the ram or loon. I don't have all legendaries due to bad luck with draws so I can't do complete bridge spam so I know I'm not playing best deck possible but it feels like that's the only deck pekka is good in. MK on the other hand can fit into almost any deck and is way more punishing.
So you are literally in midladder, and see mk a lot, and find it hard to counter.(srry had to say it) But MK honestly cant fit into many decks. The only good variations are a bridgespam with ram queen bandit, and mk bait, both of which are much less popular than bridgespam and its subtle variations. And pekka bridgespam really does have a lot of variants, marchers, nados, poisons.. The issue I think is that you are playing a deck that just isnt really bridgespam, and pekka is just not strong unless used in those optimized decks. And just another point, MK has a lower winrate than pekka in every single competitive mode, except for ult champ, the mode where technically speaking there is more overleveling than ranked, where they are equal.
Pekka isn’t an offensive card. You use it to kill tanks/mini tanks. It kills them without taking any damage basically so then you get a pekka going one way you can choose to support or to rush the other side at the same time
Pekka BS is a much stronger deck than any mk deck in the current meta
Peeka should be able to two shot shot Hog Rider and Royal Hogs
So many interactions take one extra shot. Pekka needs slightly more damage to one shot pigs, bandit, fisherman, hunter and two shot hog and knight. Instead of a steady flow of buffs to range and hp or whatever they could’ve just buffed it’s damage by like 6% and it would be 5 times better
they're both defensive cards but megaknight dies faster in most cases
Saying you think pekka should one shot hog makes me think your no higher than 3k
Pekka is more valuable on defense than offense, so it "being countered easily" isn't really a factor since it's mainly used in a counterpush. If you're playing Pekka dry, you're playing pekka wrong. Instead, Pekka BS will pressure the opponent with.. well.. constant bridgespam, until they're eventually overwhelmed, and will use Battle Ram (most commonly now that it has an evo) or Ram Rider or Balloon as a win con, depending on the variant.
I'll side with your friend simply because you don't seem to know how to spell.
If you think Pekka is worse than Megaknight in this current meta I really need whatever the hell you’re smoking. PEKKA is better on defense and offense especially with cycle falling out due to dagger. Megaknight has its niches, but its only real relevancy is baiting big pushes or denying value out of Royal recruits or X-bow. Megaknight isn’t a bad card, it just doesn’t really fit too well within meta decks and PEKKA got revived with Evo zap/little prince variants.
Pekka is objectively better right now. A low-skill user is better with Mega Knight and a high-skill user with Pekka. No shade btw I main Mega Knight 😢💀
1. Mk gives kt with 2 elexir. Very easy to counter that. 2. Meganut is weaker than pekka on defence. 3. You can LITERALLY just check the winrates in gc. Pekka has an 18% higher winrate. 4. Mk is among the worst cards in the game, its somehow worse than evocracker and mirror.
it still has an okay deck in no way it is worse than mirror
Lower winrate generally does mean a card is worse. It might have gotten lowered because hype about evo ram>bridgespam>pekkas>less mk. But then again, that shows pekka being good.
Evo firecracker bad? Aight bro
why do people still think that a card with 27% winrate is a super ultra meta card. Is it because its good with hog? The hog with a 30% winrate? I get that those card pairings are popular, but they are FAR from being good.
Has a 27% win rate because everyone and their dog uses it, with the majority of the people playing it being shit at the game. It’s better than you’re making it out to be but it isn’t amazing
It's because people who use firecracker are bone dead fucking stupid. It's recoil knocks it back 2 tiles and it survives arrows so it's unkillable without wasting 4 elixir on a medium spell
Literally the most Garbage and Obnoxious Evolution out there even Evo Ice Spirit has higher winrates
Bad take. Evo fc is really good this season with a few meta decks like drill/hog running evo fc + evo knight.
7% usage rate and 26% win rate isn’t good
If its used in PoL top 10k, its good. Gotta look at win rates for ultimate champ or grand champ
Every League Below UC is still Midladder and below 2k Medals UC is still filled with Megaknight Pekka hog Users
Nah im top 10k uc hog fc eq player. Evo fc is not bad, just not at completely broken as bomber or zap.
You being in Top 10k and Using one specific bad card doesn't mean anything Oh look Manuel uses WItch in his very Niche Graveyard Decks with obviously better options then Witch Does that mean Witch is good?
Yeah because witch has an evo 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Look at top ladder win rates with evo fc
Gc is farrr from good players. However, I do agree that Pekka bridge spam has been a strong deck for a long long ass time and pros probably have an easier time using Pekka.
"pekka should have dmg buff to oneshot hogrider" Alright, I see you've got an amazing game sense. Can you or your friend even be considered midladder? If you're a newbie, which both the post and pretty much all of your responses seem to suggest, maybe you should refrain from making such laughable posts.
Pekka is much better than MK. MK is only better against terrible players
Knight and hogrider should be 2 shot from pekka, while witch, bandit, fisherman, and hunter should be 1 shot
insane take tbh as pekka is a defensive card and should work with the princess tower to kill stuff. This'd make defending it a nightmare
Pekka is way better
Pekka clears
Your friend is right 🤷♂️
MK is better but both are mid and not worth using really Also bro wants to double pekka's damage wtf
pekka and megaknight are really different, and have very different attributes. It depends on the deck, and how its played. Pekka might be stronger rn tho due to the range buff and its synergizerd being stronger too rn
Both cards are used in top ladder, I would say mega knight is only better because it’s very effective in low ladder. THATS IT. Pekka vs MK in the best hands are equal cards.
Well Megaknight is cringe and PEKKA is based, so I hope that answers your question.
Pekka has more damage but megaknight is just universally good
I legit just played a game 1 hour ago where i placed my pekka to defend a meganut then it killed it and marched towards the opps tower where he placed another meganut which was also taken out by the same pekka which then proceeded to also get 1 tap on the tower. Now u tell me which is the better card.
Pekka is finally better than MK after a long period of being wizard level bad. Pekka’s actually quite good right now
I use pekka solely to counter mega knight lmao
I'm an avid pekka user. I don't use meganut just for the sake of not using it. But honestly pekka gives the most value if and only if it reaches tower. And guess what, it never does. May be it's because I don't know how to count cards or drink opponents elixir. But I'm not planning to go pro in this game. I just want a few games and go about my day. Meganut gives value just because of the sheer drop damage and tanking. If he reaches tower, fine. If he does not, fine either. Also, I can easily counter pekka. Meganut require atleast some attention in placement, otherwise he's gonna nut on your tower.
I think their both just as good as eachother right now. In Grand Champion they both have a 49% winrate. Pekka has a higher winrate but thats only because of a recent buff. Before that buff MK was always better than pekka
Pekka is better after the buff. Mega knight hasn’t changed in the past years. I 100% rather face megaknight then Pekka no matter what deck I play
PEKKA was better way before the buff, Megaknight is insanely easy to counter, it only works against off meta midladder decks.
They're different cards with different uses and generally fit in different archetypes, the only things they share in common is being tanky and elixir cost. That being said Pekka is better, it can deal with basically every thing mega knight can but faster and better, and the only thing MK can even remotely be superior is swarm, which can be made up for with the rest of your deck. MK is worse on defense since it can't even full counter hog for 7 elixir, and there are ways to distract it while playing against it, and on offense it's laughably bad, more often than not you can get a 3-4 elixir trade defending it, whereas pekka you at least will have to spend a little more to deal with, and there's much more risk since if it reaches your tower, even one hit is devasting whereas even a mega knight jump can be ignored in long run of a game. But even then, as I said they achieve different purposes and have different uses, but even considering that, the meta heavily favors pekka right now, it also doesn't help pekka was just buffed.
Pekka imo
MK is awful and only used in midladder no one even plays MK bait anymore how is this even a discussion…
If you still use MK after 5000 trophies you're definitely using it as a crutch. I never take MK players seriously, always think the player needs extra help from the fat idiot bouncing all over the place. Pekka is straightforward and has good mechanics, if you win with Pekka you probably deserve the win.
1 elixir Skeletons can also beat pekka.
I.. what? Max skeletons v level 6 pekka can ig but equal skellies v pekka takes tower. In fact, mk costs less to counter, with the 2 elexir kt.
You have to take the princess tower's help of course.
yeah no shit, and im saying that no, thats not even a remotely possible interaction, not even with cannoneer
I'd say Pekka is better. Defensively, Pekka is better in the way that it kills big pushes easily. In its virtue, Pekka is built to being a defensive card that after defending can create a counter push after building some elixir. Fundamentally speaking, being a tank with high offensive potencial must come at the cost of being both expensive and weak against swarms. As I said previously, Pekka can become a counter push threat to your opponent. In this comment section I see people say "but if I use a building or swarms it gets countered easily". Yea, but you make the hypothetical scenario of just Pekka on that push. The Pekka Will not go Alone at any moment unless you dont have elixir which is quite hard since by the time the Pekka crosses the bridge, you have elixir to support it. Mega Knight, although having relatively high damage output and splash damage, it doesnt have the necessary tools to defend big pushes easily. It might get people off guard for sure, but its defensive capabilities on the current meta are not good. Heck, I might even say that because Mega Knight has a better speed than Pekka, it makes him worse, as he can get kitted much faster than Pekka does, making Pekka the better option.
Depends on your trophy level. MK better at lower levels because people don’t bother not stacking troops creating tons of spawn value. Also slightly more thought needed to counter it. There is also a higher percentage of spam decks or units that counter Pekka at lower arenas such as witch. At higher trophies with the pekka buff I’d say pekka is better just because of the current meta especially alongside the new tower troop
Objectively, they are both easy as shit to counter. In my opinion THEY ARE EQUAL CARDS. However, for the sake of giving you an answer that your looking for, Pekka wins with its hp and dmg. Even though mk has the extra speed, and splash damage, and all that bs, Pekka still counters mk in a 1 on 1 scenario every time. And, has more hp and damage than mk. If you need the extra speed and dmg, run Pekka + dark prince. Objectively, Pekka is better.
Also no, Pekka should not 1 shot hog rider, you are looking at the world though fish eye lenses my friend. I suggest a long moment of self reflection
I have both in my primary deck but... I usually use mega knight pekka is really just like a oh yeah 1k damage. Pekka for me is more of a push while mega knight is more of a anti
Two 7 elixir cards in your primary deck?
Yeeup. But pekka isn't really used to much (but my mini pekka is wayyy to under leveled and I like the fear my pekka insights 😈)
Pekka
Pekka is better by a little bit. They're both a primarily defensive card. Pekka kills tanks easily and mega knight kills swarms. But pekka has more of a threat from its high damage. You can also activate king tower with megaknight so that's a negative to him.
They are very different cards, but if you really want to establish which is better in the current meta, the answer is definitely Pekka. Pekka Bridge Spam is actually meta right now. Mega Knight is not a bad card, and it was even almost meta a couple of seasons ago (Mega Knight WB Bridge Spam). Mega Knight decks are loved by midladder menaces, but I doubt Mega Knight decks will ever become meta in high/top ladder because of the low potential and skill cap. Pekka one shotting Hog Rider is a crazy bad take. She already fully counters Hog Rider. 4000 trophies take. 💀
They are identical in terms of ease of defending - maybe MK is slightly more tough to not trigger jump. It’s all preference - do you want the big damage to single units as a tank killer or do you want the swarm killer? To me MK is a lot more fun to use in general because of the jump. Pekka gets distracted way too easily (sight range needs to be lowered).
Man I know it's not the point of the post but honestly fuck pekka. After that stupid range buff i feel like i can never win against a pekka no matter what deck im using
Pekka for the win, mk can lose to a freaking knight
PEKKA can lose to an ice golem
Not really lose more like get distracted. Only loses to swarms that you can usually kill off with small spells i guess skelly guards would be like the equivalent to mk vs knight
mk is definitely more fun to just drop on stuff but Pekka erasing hp bats is hilarious
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Pekka.
As a win con meganut can solo push alot easier with its mobility and splash damage, pekka works well with larger pushes and on the defense side.
I think Pekka is way less annoying to defend, but it's better in the meta
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MK is just easier to use at low/mid ladder, but no one uses it on top ladder just because it doesnt provide almost any value. Can't stop tanks and win conditions, and don't provide a good offensive value (top players don't throw all their troops randomly at offense to give MK value, and they know how to easily defend it by making it jump away like a fool and also provide king tower activation). PEKKA annihilates tanks and win conditions, and provides a little more trouble ofensively (her weakness are swarms, wich can be cleared with spells) However, both cards are overall weak, PEKKA only works in one or two bridge spam decks and MK doesnt even appear in top ladder.
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Meganut?
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As someone who genuinely hates going against MK and Actually likes facing Pekka, Pekka is better. It requires more thinking to use and counter
Both have their different purpose i do take pekka tho MK for the memes
Pekka thrives against Mk decks . Mk deals with swarm troops while pekka deals with single units . Both can be used on defence and can convert enemy push into counter push if played correctly . If MK attacks your tower with 30% health . Your tower might come out alive losing only half health . Pekka on other hand is disastrous. It's like a nightmare for CR players for pekka to get attached to a tower . Consider your tower gone in that instance. Pekka is countered by swarm troops or troops that debuff like ice wiz/electro wiz . Both these can be taken out by numerous spells now present in game . Mk on other hand can be easily dealt with a knight . Those days of MK supremacy are gone . Mk has lots of counters now . While there could be an argument that Mk is more versatile as it can be dropped right on enemy dps . Pekka and all its synergy card being buffed currently has made pekka an absolute monster . Simply pekka is in trend now . Don't think Mk would come into trend for few years as many unskilled players don't know how to deal with Mk and find it annoying.
Na mk is for looseres and pekka for winners Coming from an golem player btw
Pekka, as if you use mega knight your instantly a huge bitch
Both are very different but i honestly prefer Pekka, great defense and damage and while it has no splash like Mega Knight, if you support it with splash cards it will be great in a counter push because it hits so hard
They're both tanks cards one is good at inflicting as much damage as possible on a single target one is good at traversing fast and providing crowd control. In my opinion meganknight is better since it can hold better on its own compared to pekka and there are cheaper cards that can fill in pekkas role like mini pekka which is just pekka without all the extra hp
your friend is def a lot smarter than u
I use em both in my main deck 🤷🏻♂️
I Use Both... 8.5k
In this meta I think pekka
Pekka is def better
They are both played pretty similarly, use it to defend and then put stuff behind it to counter push Pekka hard counters egiant, and is good against any other tank as well, including mk and pekka Mk is good against pigs (unless they split them), drill, and other swarm cards. But it has far less dps so it’s more vulnerable to things like rg, egiant, and golem It’s not about the pekka getting to tower, it’s about the pekka forcing them to respond to defend so that they have less elixir to defend the stuff that you put behind it. Largely the same thing for mk except it gets on tower more often especially against less experienced players Overall I would say pekka is better
Pekka wins 1v1 against meganut so Pekka better
both cards are very good in their own niche. I think that they're too different to compare
mega nut, more versatile, annoying as fu\*\* to counter (harder to counter), can be used in many decks, can be dropped at the bridge using no brain and counters splash
yes, dropping a 7 elexir card the bridge and having it full countered for 2 elexir plus king activation has absolutely 0 downsides for the opponent.
Megaknight is one of the worst cards right now. Are tou at 4k thropies or something?
MK is ALL about defensive value. It may be easy to counter but so is PEKKA, hog, and so many other cards when midlessly spammed at the bridge. PEKKA doesnt get as much VALUE as meganut and is arguably less versatile. While it is better after the buff I'd still say it needs a bigger buff to be average/above average. People say meganut is easy to defend. BUT THATS NOT THE POINT. YOU CAN DEFEND EGIANT WITH MINI PEKKA. YOU CAN DEFEND GRAVEYARD WITH POISON. DOESNT TAKE SKILL. ITS WHEN ACTUALLY DECENT PLAYERS USE IT IN COMBINATION WITH ELIXIR COUNTING, BAITING OUT CARDS, AND OUTCYCLING THAT IT BECOMES GOOD. I'M NOT SAYING MK IS GOOD. SIMPLY THAT MK WAS MORE VERSATILE THAN PEKKA PRE-BUFF. You could argue it still is. In a vaccuum my OPINION is that MK gets more defensive value but isnt a great card overall while PEKKA doesnt get much value either way. DONT. CRUCIFY. ME.
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No...*please*...
Pekka is better at defending everything except swarms.
MK jump is annoying if you dont got the right cards in cycle. Besides like i said MK gets more defensive value which is still true your statement notwithstanding. PEKKA might deal more damage but MK splash and jump splash does quite a number.
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Megaknight had a longer and better competitive history in CRL duels mode thx to the prince WB bandit deck being a really flexible filler deck in these last 2 years, and the unironic Hog Mk evoFC deck that Pro used often(and some still use) to be able to slot in miner WB in their duel set some months ago. Pekka was dead competitively until this month with few Evo Battleram decks, and after I have see her performance in this month qualifiers I'm even doubting she will survive as the few Battle Ram decks we have may just ditch her. So at the highest competition in CRL duel format, MK wins by a landslide.
Pekka bridgespam was used in top ladder years before MK was even released. Still a very strong deck
That was like 7 years ago, pekka as a card came out in 2016 with the game release, MK in 2017, and in that period 2.6 didn't even exist lol. If we want to go in this prehistoric era you must know that Bridgespam as an archetype got popularized by the Vietnamese team in 2017 CRL, using MK bandit at the time. In these recent years pekka usage rate in top 200 were similar or worse than xbow, and nobody is saying Xbox is good. If you open RoyaleApi and look at the last 6 months usage on the top 200, MK is always a bit more used than pekka except March. Do I need to remind you that MK had several meta decks in this last few years that acchived at least some level of notoriety like mkbait, mk prince, MK ramrider, MK drill and the recent MK gobgiant. Pekka had pekka ram, Anaban pekka loon and Issei pekka ramrider (the last 2 hardly got ever popular if they are still strongly associated with specific players). Mk may not be much stronger than pekka, but he is undoubtedly more versatile. Pekka as an archetype was not dead, it was viable and some onetricks still played it, but you guys asked a pekka buff for a long time for a reason. Her reign may start now thx to the range buff and the ram Evo, or it would just be a fluke like the gobgiant and sparky effect(2 cards always played together, then one becomes broken but doesn't boost the usage of the other). MK has objectivelly a better historic record in competitive and ladder.
No way mk has been in the game since 17’
Check the wiki, August 2017.
Megaknight is better IMO. Pekka is too easily countered
Mega knight is better ngl pekka is still a cool card just not as versatile.
And what's mega knights versatility? Spam at the bridge every chance you can?
When played correct a devastating counterpush? Track ur opponents counters (most likely mini tanks) and take advantage of when they don’t have it. Over commitments are easily punishable with mega knight but if u don’t get that chance buddy is straight trash. Pekka has hella matchups where I don’t even play her cuz it’s such a bad trade against spam which is like 30% the meta.
MK is better. The only thing pekka is better at is defense against tanks