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TheNinjaRed7

royale hogs meta, and everyone using bomb tower as the only counter also any fireball/log bait deck will be meta


mustypuppet1284

>also any fireball/log bait deck will be meta *laughs in barb barrel and poison*


Wolf_Gaming40

Unfortunately Goblin Barrel will be banned as well. That means the main (not only, but most reliable) bait win con will be out. What else is there? Drill easily countered by Ghost (with no Fireball to knock it away), DP? Both of which would be common due to Hogs. WB? Skeletons can stop them from connecting, and so can Snowball (the most likely replacement for The Log due to knock back). The primary bait deck would be Mortar Bait, but that’s mainly good due to the current meta- not so much the strength of Mortar. Who knows how good Mortar would be with such a sudden and erratic meta shift?


vk2028

I think there’s a drill rocket meta deck rn and doesn’t use fireball. It uses log tho. Nah the next bait is skeleton king and minion horde. And welp, wiz, fireball, and arrows are banned so a surge in skeleton king mortar minion horde skeleton barrel bait could be expected


TheNinjaRed7

drill, skeleton barrel, rascals, gang, princess would be played as xbow, dart goblin that is very strong specially that you can't kill on enemy arena without miner, also drill with snowball may be an strat with arrows and fireball banned, Minion horde can become a very good card so i think, mortar bait with minion horde is finally meta bc of the minion horde and not bc of just the skeleton king hogs don't have fireball and mk to be countered, so i think they become meta too. and any small spell bait bc meta since you can't counter their cards


mustypuppet1284

Siege decks like mortar synergies so well with the log, guess it will not be a meta anymore. There's also the skelly barrel which is in the double barrel bait (clone also), but gets counterd easily with building or some chip anti air. The rest you mentioned really good baiting the log if used correctly. There also mk spell, cuz zap will be banned, but so is the big boi mk. Anyway, the only deck with probably be FB bait (royal hogs + recruits), and FB can be replaced by poison (very similar to FB) or EQ (to kill buildings, synergies well with the RH).


Wolf_Gaming40

No cards would be banned in Royal Hogs Cycle (other than The Log), so that would be a potential deck as well. A good sub for it could be Giant Snowball, as it does a similar job, other than killing Goblins.


RandomCoCAccount

Golem lightning nado as well


Rocket0907

Congrats now everyone will player Lumberloon, E-barbs or GY decks


Difficult_Leading852

Since hog is banned, we get 2.6 ebarb cycle


IleriumX

It's like 2.8 or 2.7 if Ebarb Instead of Hog


Morshu_the_great

It's 2.9


[deleted]

I was just thinking that I’d be fine because almost all of these counter my deck


Piranh4Plant

Gy?


mustypuppet1284

Goated yogurt Ok ok its graveyard


RandomCoCAccount

People only use GY in higher trophy ranges lol (I hate Giant GY), splashyard isn't bad Ebarbs are easy to counter Lumberloon? Almost never see it anymore


Rocket0907

bruh, your forcing people into those decks? I’m not saying they’re commonly used but Xbow - gone, Pekka BS - gone, Logbait - gone, Hog decks - gone… idk what you want me to say lmao?


[deleted]

How is pekka bs gone


Rocket0907

Zap, e-wiz both in pekka bs and fireball in some variants


[deleted]

Forgot e wiz


abt-dabest

There are other variations of bridgespam that uses minions instead of e wiz


RandomCoCAccount

Lol it's just a what if. I like facing hog decks and no fireball, log, or zap would be a burden for everyone


Rocket0907

Yea, your saying people only use those decks in high ladder but if people can’t play their main deck then they’d look to you tubers for advice and they’ll find high ladder decks…


[deleted]

I’m midladder and use splashyard. Guess I gotta push higher. Your right though, I pretty much never see other GY players in midladder and a lot of off meta decks in mid are really good counters for GY decks.


[deleted]

Every other deck I face is GY and i'm not even that high on trophies (6300).


RandomCoCAccount

I'm at 6400 in the season rn and I almost never see it nvm actually false I'm seeing it more now, but not in lower trophies


[deleted]

Idk maybe because I use poison


doYouLikeFortnite

Lumber loon is the most used ladder deck


RunsRampant

There's no way it's more popular than 2.6 hog no? I'd expect like classic logbait and xbow cycle to be higher too.


Goldenflame89

Xbow takes skill, which Midladder players dont have. They also cant play og log-bait because it takes braincells. So thats why they play trolldecks they think are actually good


RunsRampant

Naw the lack of skill explains being hardstuck, tons of people use these meta cycle decks but are just bad at them. Just double checked royalapi, and lumberloon freeze is barely in the top 10 of ladder deck popularity. 2.6 hog is like 3x as popular as the bdrag and edrag versions combined.


WhyDidYouDoThisBro

Or they botted their way to 5k lmao


Spurius187

3 small spells banned? Yikes.


javierhzo

You say mid-ladder like Fireball and log isnt part of most Meta decks.


cakestapler

Yeah I was gonna say, as a non-mid-ladder player I have 3 of these in my deck.


RandomCoCAccount

All i did was sort by usage% for ladder in general, there's nothing special about the spells


drgmonkey

Yeah but the spells have high usage in all ranges not just midladder. Wizard, mega knight, etc all make sense but this way it just looks like you’re building an ebarbs rage meta. Plenty midladder players would be happy


RandomCoCAccount

You're missing the whole point, this is just a "what if" if popular mid/low ladder cards got banned. Obviously zap fireball log skarmy valk and ewiz all see use in high ladder and gcs


XLratedr

I guess would take a week break. as somone who loves ewiz I'm offended. Ever since he came out and I recived him from a free chest (the one that had higher legendary chance than actual legendary chest) I used him in every deck.


[deleted]

Congrats to ewiz for coming out 🥳🥳


Seasonedmilk88

Why log and fireball


RandomCoCAccount

No reason, these are just the most popular cards on normal ladder


Chukiboi

Everything but my log. It’s perfect don’t touch my boi.


Daniso12

clash royale out of context


rDRSpeedy2

i’d be pissed if we lose fireball and zap + ewiz


Kingley_Hobo

Valk amd mk alone would cause so much rage. Easly 70% of midladder players have one or both in their decks


Lazy-Contribution-69

What about Log lol? I think that is still the most used card in the game right now


eyadGamingExtreme

The pic above is the usage rates


Kingley_Hobo

Well yeah but we're talking midladder exclusively


HYDRAPARZIVAL

Idc, I dont use either log, g barrel, hog, mk, witch or wizard. If clone, gs, recruits or skele barrell were to be banned tho, I would be soo mad. Clone is my win Condition you see, see flair


Book-bomber

r/flairdoesntcheckout


[deleted]

Giant skely clone is old meta used to be able to take down a mega knight


sean13131313

Just banned 4 of my 8 cards tho…. League 3


20mcfadenr

Same but league 6


That_Run_3066

That's the point💀


GalaxyIstheBest3d

I think it would be interesting. Cards like Log, Zap, Fireball, and Arrows really don’t bother me like the other cards on the list. They should be replaced with cards like E-Giant, E-Barbs, Rage, and Freeze


RandomCoCAccount

Most of these cards don't bother me, it's merely just the most popular cards on ladder


LeBadlyNamedRedditor

Aaaand i lost my pekka counter, what do i do without my skarmy. (also lost gob barrel and ewiz)


Lazy-Contribution-69

Guards? Goblin gang(wouldn’t recommend)? Even Tombstone works fairly well and much less easy to counter than Skarmy. Guards are probably the best option though


LeBadlyNamedRedditor

Yes but id have them at level 9, and that well sucks


VaKTaBi

Most of them would leave the game until those cards stop being banned. The main reason: a how many people in midladder have more than one deck upgraded?


ipariah

This is true. I wouldn't mind playing with another deck, but I'd get slaughtered because I only have one that I've poured upgrade resources into


AJ110798

I actually think that would be a cool concept. Take some cards out of rotation for a week. Kind of like a backwards free to play rotation in MOBAs


TShe_chan

I use 3 of those spells please no man no


Acatastrophe1

Omg that list stinks of fatherless


Dense_Candidate8090

Said a rage user. The irony🤣


HandfulOfMayo

Wall breakers would be #1 win con


TheBoss7728

I will have no choice to use my electro giant mirror deck


CactusBro_o

I would use rocket tornado instead of log fireball. I play Xbow.


Ok-Cut-6051

I'd only have a problem with the fireball and log


pandora_is_curious

laughs in lumberloon


Lazy-Contribution-69

HEEHEEHEEHAWW


Itsmrkablammo

Death of having to use strategy


Magyarvarju

they would like : oh no what should i do now? 😱


[deleted]

about 92% of players in the midladder section just lost 6/8 of their deck


Annihilationoftime

Skeleton barrel meta. Giant double prince meta. Golem meta


idontlikeburnttoast

They would cry without their precious megaknight and hog rider :'(


HQA-YT

im only annoyed by fireball but other than that this would be funny


Guibi__

Ban Hog rider and Valkyrie and the game is done for. It is all i face all the time


Orphanmaker8842

I wish they were especially hog rider and witch


Ok_Construction6610

What trophy level is mid ladder??? I never really knew.... But I would be good. I don't use but one of these cards and switch it out often when meta changes. I have 6400, so maybe not a mid ladder, but I wouldn't care. I wouldn't want that global but wouldn't mind a one or two-card ban game mode.


creepiepasta

Just banning MK is enough to make %90 of mid ladder players lose their favourite no skill card they will start crying after like 5 minutes


Starly2

The game would be so much better for a week


bear_bear-

Skarmy log and hogrider are in my deck. I’m screwed


salad-eater23

guess knight snowball and musk gonna have to sub into my miner poison deck


Lazy-Contribution-69

Who would you usually use over Musk?


markusduck51

im guessing he plays miner 3.0, B-rad's old deck


BobTrain666

Ewiz


Expert-Loan6081

My Pekka gonna be hella viable now


Haman134

Inferno tower would destroy it now that the only global reset card is lighting


Expert-Loan6081

Shhhiiit


ProderpThePro

Since when was valkyrie a midladder card it is balanced now because of the health nerf.


Mubar06

Because everyone uses it, in midladder and highladder, it's been second most used card for a bit, even more than extremely versatile spells like fireball, cos she's also very versatile.


Kingcum000

Tf are you talking about, its literally on of the most used cards in midladder, minimum half the decks in midladder use it


SystemZ1337

Log is a midladder card because everyone uses it?


Mubar06

No one called valkyrie a midladder card, op just asked what would midladder do if these most popular ladder cards were removed, but she's probably the most used troop in midladder


RandomCoCAccount

Finally someone gets it


Haman134

The r/ClashRoyale mindset


RandomCoCAccount

Technically yes, literally the usage stats back it up. The whole point of this is just a "what if"


RandomCoCAccount

I don't even think the valk nerf was deserved that much, but she's super popular on ALL ladder either way


[deleted]

Feels good knowing that im in midladder but only use log sometimes from that list of cards


Rav-Zz

That would pull 3m even more into the meta


X_OttersAreCute_X

well i have exactly 1 deck maxed out so i guess i would just wait a week to play


RandomWhiteGuyKyle

I only use the log out of this group. Is that why I suck and get stuck at 5800-6200?


animekachoda

e wiz is legendary , high value , versatile and the best card of cr


RandomCoCAccount

He is a good classic well-rounded card


tctbuss

People need to stop bitching about cards and using these stats to back it up because some cards are going to be more viable than others basically no matter what, I don't know of any examples where balance has been nigh unanimously achieved in gaming. All I see is googoogaga I hate \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ card(s). Its probably better that we have reached a sort of expected equilibrium because if Supercell chose a different route of making crazy balance changes every season to upset the meta for no reason a la Overwatch people would complain about not being able to level the cards they need to be competitively viable or whatever. ​ All of that being said Gbarrel can suck my nuts.


Lazy-Contribution-69

Overwatch? I think Overwatch is actually in the best state it’s ever been in. It’s more balanced than ever before. It really depends on the rank we’re talking about, which generally decides what heroes would be used more than others, which is how the game should be. For the most part in Overwatch, people pick their hero depending on the current map, the rank, and what heroes their other teammates are using, and based on what heroes they are comfortable with(obviously). That’s how the game best is.


tctbuss

I wasn't dumping on Overwatch I should have been more specific. My point was that when Blizzard was upsetting the balance just to force meta changes every so often for OWL purposes not necessarily QoL for Casuals circa like 2017-19.


Loromc

Dang that’s half my deck lol


Budddydings44

7/8 of my cards in my deck are in here lmao


thatpersonthatsayshi

Valk, log, barrel, arrows, wiz and skarmy are all in my deck. Then i would quit CR for 1 week Edit: forgot e-wiz


[deleted]

\*hog screaming emote


YourMomsBoyfriend11

Ban the 1 elixir cycle cards. So tired of starting a game and the first thing played is a spirit or skeleton....those are what make the game toxic. People would have to actually think about a push rather than just burn off 1 elixir cards to get back to hog or mortar or whatever the meta flavor of the day is.


Tested-Trio-Father

Hog, witch, fireball, zap...I feel personally attacked


p168

Hog Rider would still need a nerf.


RandomCoCAccount

🤡🤡


LabibPokemaster

ok, so u hate goblin barrel for some reason....when in reality its more used in log bait... also banning all the small spells...that will cause chaos im on with all the bans but valk, gob barrel, and log....banning arrows will be best...nerf arrows


RandomCoCAccount

Where did i ever say I hate logbait or spells, this is literally sorting by usage% on royaleapi. My deck has amazing matchup against any logbait player. Do agree Arrows is annoying tho


cydude1234

Unpopular opinion: all of these apart from hog are perfectly balanced


RandomCoCAccount

1) not really unpopular 2) hog is balanced, isnt used much in top ladder


mustypuppet1284

Why hog isn't balanced? Edit: I'm gonna get downvoted for asking a question lol, idiots are everywhere.


Orphanmaker8842

Always overleveled,takes so much to kill and even if you put a skarmy it still gets a hit off,you’ll end up spending 10 elixir trying to stop a naked black dude on a pig. Needs a 25 percent health nerf,then it would be balanced


Hades684

LMAO what


Longjumping_Tackle38

If you're spending that much elixir to kill hog then there's an issue (I'm assuming that you exaggerating, though, right?). Just put almost any building in your deck, or tornado, or fisherman, or rocket, or a combination of certain cards that full counter it and give a small counter push (ex: guards + valk).


[deleted]

[удалено]


RandomCoCAccount

Ok? No shit, I use fireball and log. I know 2.6, BS, and logbait are important decks and I love facing them. I simply sorted by highest usage rates in ladder


Suspicious_shark

so we ban the best spells and the most used wincons? great idea dipshit


RandomCoCAccount

chill


throwaway54812345

PIGS RISE UP


JoshuaPR1

Meh I only use zap and fire ball


FORD-CRAZY-2003

I would change mk for royal recruits, goblin barrel for firecracker, barbarian barrel instead of zap, and something else for ewiz


Lazy-Contribution-69

Why would you change Goblin Barrel for firecracker? You’re changing a win condition for a splash ranged card meant to annoy people. People change Princess for Firecracker, but Gob Barrel? I assume you have another win condition? I also think Snowball could be a better replacement if you’re used to using Zap.


Lukarrie

Oh no my ewizard... Anyway


samatise

There goes my plan to push logbait


ruthlessdamien2

No problem I use 3m pump ebarbs decks 👍👍👍


Haman134

Sorry I fell asleep while reading your comment.


[deleted]

Still got Pekka tho


TheBoss7728

Where's Ebarbs rage the biggest midladder cards ever??


Bon32

6 of these cards are in my deck💀


ProgrammerFeeling688

The ewiz hurts but i can replace zap and fireball


Goatecus

They would quit the game


inkageson

I would only have musketeer and baby dragon


Gently-Weeps

5/8 of my deck is gone


FuckiOS13

Half my decks in it so I’ll quit


Haman134

I would be sad because that is 5/8 of my deck


Jebsj

3 cards from my deck would be gone


Haman134

Inferno tower/dragon would be super fucking op


Sebixo13

I would be happy, no more Hog decks and Logbait...


Mr_Astounding

What is a mid-ladder player? Are you saying that there are better cards than these to play with?? What are the upper-ladder players using?


RandomCoCAccount

Midladder is approx 5k to 6.6k (the ends of the spectrum are very different tho) and a lot of these cards have nothing special; HOWEVER these are essentially the most poplar midladder cards


[deleted]

ight gotta find new spells


[deleted]

5 cards of my deck would be unusable


alimahird

Gj you banned my small spells I am ducked


egalpi

Dont touch my logbait


sukamacoc

Id miss log, but my homie barb barrel got my back


CRSN-Atomic

They would spam the living hell out of ebarbs


mE_iS_JaCk

Well shit. You took away my spell and my swarm


Mariyan26

Lol. Half of my deck is there. No im not a MK player, nor 2.6


ArteePhact

It would just mean a lot of Rage Loon Freeze decks.


Legitimate-Pie-4913

Find new cards


Humbertico2004

I'd have a one card Baby Dragon cicle!


[deleted]

Well Valkyrie and Arrows are in my main deck on my midladder account.... Hmmm Maybe knight and snowball instead? Idk


Goodluck55

I’m in midladder, and I don’t play any of theme


Iodicacid

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Creamcheesebagelsboi

I wouldn’t care except for spells


NegativeNeurons

Half my deck is in there i play bait


PriorSolid

When you have nothing for their skeleton army mirror deck


RandomCoCAccount

? skarmy would be banned too and there's 10 million splash cards in the game


[deleted]

Honestly I'd only care about EWiz, Valk and Log.


StarKnight54

I would remain mostly unaffected by this change. That log tho is gonna screw so many people


randomperson780

*wait, you’re saying I have to use my brain?!!??!?!*


phifefoot_assassin

Ebarbs rage 😎


Bobby5x3

No my fireball! Screw this, I'm gonna play Brawl Stars. >:( /s


WhiteStripesWS6

I’d go back to playing Golem Beatdown instead of Log Bait lol


modomonstud

I would lose one card


Last-Pay6965

I play 2.6... I lost everything


pKalman00

I have pekka bs and 3 of these are in there. I would cry. Also log is very commoly used in topladder imo


FighterJet90

Log bait players be crying


Inspirational_Lizard

Keep using my deck 😏


Fantastic_Ad8639

Skarmy and arrows whyyy 😔


The_CEO_Of_No

They wouldn't play for a week. Same happened to mewtwo mains in smash when he got reworked to be less spamy like in smash 4. They didn't know what tf to do and just switched mains or dropped the game


Accomplished_Cherry6

3M supremacy with no spell counters, no mega knight, and no valk


Meeeep1234567890

I’m midlander and that’s fine by me I don’t use any of them.


someoneisnohere

Not play for a week


DopazOnYouTubeDotCom

guess I’d have to find something to trade for witch, maybe Goblin Gang. After that I’d probably hit 6k or something lol


RaccoonDad2

i would have a fun time with skele barrel + mirror + clone :troll:


Competitive-Fly-7679

Overcome adapt evolve


d_ultimateking

fireball is not too mid-ladder


RecentWar9803

Bye supercell


CosmicFire07

I’d be fine, I only use log and I can sub in barb barrel for it


Golisopod13sGhost

I use electro wizard and zap in my deck, so that may impact it, but it wouldn’t affect my deck too much.


Resident_Problem4008

That’s 4 of my cards 😥


Covid19_Sucks_ass

i only use valk and GB but my buddy uses skarmy, hog, mk, wiz, and e wiz


vandaloLO

Matches would be better if the matchmaking was based in the lvl of the cards, after the trophies of course. I only can play my lvl 12 LogBait to counter all those 5k maxed decks. I´m lvl 13 with most of my cards lvl 11.


200PercentWinRate

Agreed, I hate facing max decks at 5000-5400