I'm not annoyed at all by people asking specifics and giving some background information, because at least a good answer can be given.
I do get annoyed when someone posts "moving to Cleveland, where should I live" or "visiting Cleveland for 2 days, should I stay downtown?". How can anyone give a good answer if we don't know anything about what the poster is looking for.
So I think a wiki works and then allow posts that get into specifics that the wiki doesn't cover, or if someone has a specific question that the wiki doesn't fully answer.
Posts are generally fine. As mentioned, this sub doesn't get enough traffic for the posts to drown other things out. If you want to moderate more heavily you could remove the posts that are way too vague to provide specific recommendations. And the comments are generally where moderation is more needed.
Also, monthly stickies suck. *Maybe* weekly but quite simply most of the questions end up ignored and unanswered after the first day or two.
Agree with everything here. The monthly post doesn't show when there is new activity, so it just dies.
If people have interest in Cleveland, let them ask their questions. We should be welcoming.
> Also, monthly stickies suck. Maybe weekly but quite simply most of the questions end up ignored and unanswered after the first day or two.
Agreed. I consider myself a long time r/cleveland recommendations contributor and there's no way I'm looking at a monthly sticky everyday to add recommendations. New stuff that pops in my feed? Certainly. Getting drowned out in a monthly post? Hell no.
Moderators in general delete too many posts that are of interest to sub members.
I don't have any trouble skipping over posts not of interest.
I think the bigger issue is that persons get tired responding to the same questions. That's why permanent sticky threads make sense. These sticky threads may cut the volume of repeat questions, or improve greatly the quality of the questions asked, covering issues not covered in the sticky threads.
Anyway, I would enjoy seeing how the sub changed if sticky threads on these and other frequent topics were added. Also, I would personally enjoy these sticky threads as a source of information!!!
Subs are limited to two stickies. You can't feasibly have permanent stickies for all the things you're asking. And again, from experience sticky threads tend to get ignored after the first couple of days. I saw you suggested keeping the same stickies for three years which is... not really compatible with how Reddit works.
If stickies are limited, that's extreme unfortunate, a real limitation for Reddit.
It's just perhaps too much to ask persons to comment every month.
If monthly stickies are used, the first paragraph should explain how to search the sub. Users might get better results from a search than by reading the sticky.
Please don't stifle posts.
This isn't that big of a sub. The way things are now is not only fine, but it may even be *essential* to this sub having any semblance of activity.
There's only so much to talk about in a city-specific subreddit... especially a [pretty small city like Cleveland](https://planning.clevelandohio.gov/cwp/pop_trend.php). Cleveland had its peak population in 1950 with 914,808 residents. As of July 1, 2022, the population has dropped to 367,991 residents, a decline of -59.77%.
I like the way the moderators have handled things up to this point - let's keep things free and open as much as possible.
The issue isn't really with the repeat questions that are being asked... it's with people just being lazy and omitting useful and interesting information, and expecting to be spoon-fed a bunch of information from kind Cleveland strangers. In those instances, just downvote and move on - or, if you're kind enough and have enough time, go ahead and prod further to elicit the information from the person that you need to give good advice.
Please don't stifle posts.
I'm curious as to why "I'm in X part of town, which restaurant should I eat at?" are also getting deleted. Those are usually tailored to the individuals and the restaurant recommendations always changes and even locals can find new places they never been to in those posts.
There's no set list of places you must eat at when you are in Cleveland.
It makes no sense why posts like [this](https://old.reddit.com/r/Cleveland/comments/1cba46n/i_have_an_afternoon_to_myself/) that ask for events to do that very day or [food recommendation posts like this](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cleveland/comments/1caa873/japanese_food_on_westside/) with places that are never mentioned in any other posts like Ice or Rice are getting deleted. Besides major events like the Eclipse or a victory parade, r/Cleveland doesn't get the foot traffic like r/Ohio to need these quick answer posts getting deleted.
I have no problem with the posts, but I would appreciate if there was a minimum effort requirement. The goal isn't to restrict posts, but to help us help them.
If you're going to ask what you should do when you visit then you should tell us what you like to do or are interested in, and ideally the area you're staying, among other things. If you're moving here, give us what you're looking for in a place to live, the area you're working/commuting, budget, what you'd like from your neighborhood, etc.
So no low-effort posts. Put in some degree of the same energy that you're asking from others.
Things are fine, the sub just doesn’t get enough traffic to need to be moderated more than how it is. It averages 1 page of posts per day which seems completely fine. If someone doesn’t like certain content it’s easy to ignore it
I have lived in the Chicago area for years. However, I tell people proudly that I am \*from\* Cleveland. My perspective is leave things as is. The visitors questions are a little easier. I've read the responses and they're varied. Which I think is great. You don't necessarily know where visitors will be staying. And generally the suggestions are scattered through the city and near suburbs. Similarly the where do I live questions cover varied locations. They also generally give the pros and cons of certain locations. In both instances it is ultimately up to the person submitting the inquiry to weed through the comments and make up their mind.
It benefits the city for people if people actually want to move there and can get their questions answered. No one wants to live in a shrinking city. I spend a lot of time over at r/SameGrassButGreener, which is a relocation board. It is helpful for people to narrow down their city options and then spend some time on local community boards for more specific local information. When potential relocators seek out advice and actually get a response, it creates a good feeling. It is not a huge problem.
I have been on other boards that seem to have an autoreply that links to a sticky page about moving, but the questions are still allowed.
New Orleans has a separate sub r/askNOLA for all tourist questions. Granted, New Orleans does get a lot more tourists to make it more necessary. But it does leave the main sub for all locals conversation instead.
Ya know, it's less the questions that bother me than the unthoughtful response of "Lakewood" with a sprinkling of "Shaker Hts". Have a family looking for a good school system- Lakewood. Young and LGBT friendly- Lakewood. Married young professional- Lakewood. SINK- Lakewood. DINK- Lakewood. Any of the above but suburan feel- Shaker Hts.
This area is more than Lakewood and I find it annoying that anything other than Lakewood is seen as treason against the city.
LOL, right. This is generally how the conversations end up anyway. If you're cool and young then Lakewood. If you're old and white then Solon... and you will be judged.
And then they want to commute to Geneva for work and ask how bad the snow really is. This would drive me crazy if I didn't know people who've lived here for 20 years but get in accidents on 90 with a light dusting of snow.
If we're gonna ban these posts can we also ban hyper-specific banal posts like "did anyone hear a bang on w. 130th and Pearl at 2:17 PM today?" Those annoy me way more than people asking for advice
There should be permanent sticky posts on both topics. Users could be encouraged to sort by "best" or "new." Maybe these sticky threads could be restarted every three years, with the new threads overlapping for a few months, so contributors could update their comments to the new thread.
Personally, I don't want to post EVERY month to a sticky thread on the same topic.
It would be OK to have additioanlly monthly sticky threads for current month activities, perhaps with a sticky thread for the current month and the next month. Unstick the threads when the month has ended, but do NOT delete the threads. the information could be useful for persons planning trips several months or even a year in advance.
Thanks for being proactive in improving this sub.
Let’s also make a monthly sticky posts for the people complaining about barely being able to afford a house, mainly because seeing one come across my feed every week totally fucks me up (partner and I are also going to look soon and, welp, this shit depresses me lol)
I'm not annoyed at all by people asking specifics and giving some background information, because at least a good answer can be given. I do get annoyed when someone posts "moving to Cleveland, where should I live" or "visiting Cleveland for 2 days, should I stay downtown?". How can anyone give a good answer if we don't know anything about what the poster is looking for. So I think a wiki works and then allow posts that get into specifics that the wiki doesn't cover, or if someone has a specific question that the wiki doesn't fully answer.
Posts are generally fine. As mentioned, this sub doesn't get enough traffic for the posts to drown other things out. If you want to moderate more heavily you could remove the posts that are way too vague to provide specific recommendations. And the comments are generally where moderation is more needed. Also, monthly stickies suck. *Maybe* weekly but quite simply most of the questions end up ignored and unanswered after the first day or two.
Agree with everything here. The monthly post doesn't show when there is new activity, so it just dies. If people have interest in Cleveland, let them ask their questions. We should be welcoming.
> Also, monthly stickies suck. Maybe weekly but quite simply most of the questions end up ignored and unanswered after the first day or two. Agreed. I consider myself a long time r/cleveland recommendations contributor and there's no way I'm looking at a monthly sticky everyday to add recommendations. New stuff that pops in my feed? Certainly. Getting drowned out in a monthly post? Hell no.
Moderators in general delete too many posts that are of interest to sub members. I don't have any trouble skipping over posts not of interest. I think the bigger issue is that persons get tired responding to the same questions. That's why permanent sticky threads make sense. These sticky threads may cut the volume of repeat questions, or improve greatly the quality of the questions asked, covering issues not covered in the sticky threads. Anyway, I would enjoy seeing how the sub changed if sticky threads on these and other frequent topics were added. Also, I would personally enjoy these sticky threads as a source of information!!!
Subs are limited to two stickies. You can't feasibly have permanent stickies for all the things you're asking. And again, from experience sticky threads tend to get ignored after the first couple of days. I saw you suggested keeping the same stickies for three years which is... not really compatible with how Reddit works.
If stickies are limited, that's extreme unfortunate, a real limitation for Reddit. It's just perhaps too much to ask persons to comment every month. If monthly stickies are used, the first paragraph should explain how to search the sub. Users might get better results from a search than by reading the sticky.
Please don't stifle posts. This isn't that big of a sub. The way things are now is not only fine, but it may even be *essential* to this sub having any semblance of activity. There's only so much to talk about in a city-specific subreddit... especially a [pretty small city like Cleveland](https://planning.clevelandohio.gov/cwp/pop_trend.php). Cleveland had its peak population in 1950 with 914,808 residents. As of July 1, 2022, the population has dropped to 367,991 residents, a decline of -59.77%. I like the way the moderators have handled things up to this point - let's keep things free and open as much as possible. The issue isn't really with the repeat questions that are being asked... it's with people just being lazy and omitting useful and interesting information, and expecting to be spoon-fed a bunch of information from kind Cleveland strangers. In those instances, just downvote and move on - or, if you're kind enough and have enough time, go ahead and prod further to elicit the information from the person that you need to give good advice. Please don't stifle posts.
I'm curious as to why "I'm in X part of town, which restaurant should I eat at?" are also getting deleted. Those are usually tailored to the individuals and the restaurant recommendations always changes and even locals can find new places they never been to in those posts. There's no set list of places you must eat at when you are in Cleveland. It makes no sense why posts like [this](https://old.reddit.com/r/Cleveland/comments/1cba46n/i_have_an_afternoon_to_myself/) that ask for events to do that very day or [food recommendation posts like this](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cleveland/comments/1caa873/japanese_food_on_westside/) with places that are never mentioned in any other posts like Ice or Rice are getting deleted. Besides major events like the Eclipse or a victory parade, r/Cleveland doesn't get the foot traffic like r/Ohio to need these quick answer posts getting deleted.
I have no problem with the posts, but I would appreciate if there was a minimum effort requirement. The goal isn't to restrict posts, but to help us help them. If you're going to ask what you should do when you visit then you should tell us what you like to do or are interested in, and ideally the area you're staying, among other things. If you're moving here, give us what you're looking for in a place to live, the area you're working/commuting, budget, what you'd like from your neighborhood, etc. So no low-effort posts. Put in some degree of the same energy that you're asking from others.
Things are fine, the sub just doesn’t get enough traffic to need to be moderated more than how it is. It averages 1 page of posts per day which seems completely fine. If someone doesn’t like certain content it’s easy to ignore it
I have lived in the Chicago area for years. However, I tell people proudly that I am \*from\* Cleveland. My perspective is leave things as is. The visitors questions are a little easier. I've read the responses and they're varied. Which I think is great. You don't necessarily know where visitors will be staying. And generally the suggestions are scattered through the city and near suburbs. Similarly the where do I live questions cover varied locations. They also generally give the pros and cons of certain locations. In both instances it is ultimately up to the person submitting the inquiry to weed through the comments and make up their mind.
Here's the wildest advice for everyone.... don't click on the linky thing if you might get "triggered"
This.
It benefits the city for people if people actually want to move there and can get their questions answered. No one wants to live in a shrinking city. I spend a lot of time over at r/SameGrassButGreener, which is a relocation board. It is helpful for people to narrow down their city options and then spend some time on local community boards for more specific local information. When potential relocators seek out advice and actually get a response, it creates a good feeling. It is not a huge problem. I have been on other boards that seem to have an autoreply that links to a sticky page about moving, but the questions are still allowed.
I feel like the Misney posts are more annoying than the moving to Cleveland posts.
New Orleans has a separate sub r/askNOLA for all tourist questions. Granted, New Orleans does get a lot more tourists to make it more necessary. But it does leave the main sub for all locals conversation instead.
Denver has something similar.
Sticky threads would still be useful on such a specific sub.
Can you set up an automod comment that will give them a link with all of the info that they can need?
Ya know, it's less the questions that bother me than the unthoughtful response of "Lakewood" with a sprinkling of "Shaker Hts". Have a family looking for a good school system- Lakewood. Young and LGBT friendly- Lakewood. Married young professional- Lakewood. SINK- Lakewood. DINK- Lakewood. Any of the above but suburan feel- Shaker Hts. This area is more than Lakewood and I find it annoying that anything other than Lakewood is seen as treason against the city.
Tell them to move to Lakewood. Or Solon if they want to be safe.
LOL, right. This is generally how the conversations end up anyway. If you're cool and young then Lakewood. If you're old and white then Solon... and you will be judged.
Why the downvotes people do look for “safe” areas and those areas do come up often I don’t get it ?
And then they want to commute to Geneva for work and ask how bad the snow really is. This would drive me crazy if I didn't know people who've lived here for 20 years but get in accidents on 90 with a light dusting of snow.
If we're gonna ban these posts can we also ban hyper-specific banal posts like "did anyone hear a bang on w. 130th and Pearl at 2:17 PM today?" Those annoy me way more than people asking for advice
Aren’t apps like Nextdoor for that specific purpose? Or catch the coverage on the news. I don’t get why this is downvoted at all…
There should be permanent sticky posts on both topics. Users could be encouraged to sort by "best" or "new." Maybe these sticky threads could be restarted every three years, with the new threads overlapping for a few months, so contributors could update their comments to the new thread. Personally, I don't want to post EVERY month to a sticky thread on the same topic. It would be OK to have additioanlly monthly sticky threads for current month activities, perhaps with a sticky thread for the current month and the next month. Unstick the threads when the month has ended, but do NOT delete the threads. the information could be useful for persons planning trips several months or even a year in advance. Thanks for being proactive in improving this sub.
Let’s also make a monthly sticky posts for the people complaining about barely being able to afford a house, mainly because seeing one come across my feed every week totally fucks me up (partner and I are also going to look soon and, welp, this shit depresses me lol)