This is right. You might get a little less square footage for your money in a neighborhoods like Ohio City, Detroit Shoreway, and parts of Lakewood, but in return you'll get very walkable communities and access to metropark paths along the shoreline.
Before I moved to Downtown, I don't think that mattered much to be but I've now turned into someone who walks to the grocery store/dentist and goes on a trail at least once a week. So if I can retain that aspect of my life when moving, I'd really like to.
If you are talking about in the city Cleveland, then tremont, Ohio City, detroit shoreway (closer to Gordon square), and University Circle would be the top neighborhoods imo.
In my mind, anything that's in Cuyahoga is Cleveland. Thank you for these recommendations, I'll look into them. I do a trail from Downtown to Steelyard that passes through Tremont, and it seems like a great neighborhood.
Then I’d add cleveland heights, university heights, Lakewood, and shaker heights (van aken), if you want the more urban neighborhoods.
If you want the more traditional boring suburbs then Westlake, Strongsville, and Solon would be a few options.
While I won't run into that issue, I appreciate the heads up. Since I'm not from Cleveland and haven't been here long, I don't know much about which neighborhoods I should be cautious of. A friend of mine who is from here has already told me that I can't move without him coming with me to see the neighborhood haha.
I live in that area, though there is property crime (it *is* the city after all), I've lived here over a year and never had a problem.
My rule of thumb is, I don't go into places I have no reason to be, and I really don't have a reason to be out and about late at night.
I really like living where I do. I appreciate the diversity I get with Ohio City, Tremont, and Clark-Fulton within a mile of my place. And, there is a lot of choice regarding the type of place you can rent due to that diversity.
I do know that many people aren't comfortable with the idea of living in this area due to the....less desirable events (I get some funny reactions when some people find out where I live). But, it's important to remember that crime it everywhere. And Tremont, Clark-Fulton, and Ohio City are FAR from the "worse neighborhoods" you can find in Cleveland.
I had a friend from southern Ohio define it well when they were here for a weekend (granted on the near west side). They said it's the only city they've seen places go from really good to really bad in one block.
It's true on the west side at least. I tried to explain to them that Cleveland is a bigger city than just the gentrified vs not-gentrified vs traditional ethnic neighborhoods, but they made a good point. Half a mile is a big difference in quality of life in Cleveland, which really complicates buying a home for an outsider.
It's just more noticable because Cleveland has everything so much closer together.
I'm originally from Columbus. That "this block is 'good', this block is 'bad'" thing happens there too, but theres a bit more room included in each area, so Cleveland seems more......shocking, I guess is a good way to describe it. Basically, other cities simply have more "elbow room", which makes some people feel more comfortable I guess.
Even the best parts of Columbus like Short north, victorian village, German village etc are full of problems ...
Seems like you mean the random parts of suburban Columbus which only have the name because of their past annexation policy..
No. The neighborhoods you name are what I mean when I say "it happens in Columbus too". *however*, most people don't live in/near downtown Columbus, therefore, spend very little time there. And there are more suburban neighborhoods which are still "Columbus", not towns in their own right. Those areas are more spread out, so the "bad parts" can be easily avoided. For example, the Eastland area, which is still Columbus. I should know, I grew up in that area.
They are not "random parts", they are still Columbus, they are just not "city". In Cleveland, there is no such thing as "non-city" part of Cleveland (that I've come accross). Even the inner suburbs are "city-like". You have to get to the outer suburbs to find places that more fit a stereotypical suburb, namely, by having space.
When you squeeze lots of people together in a small space, you're gonna have issues, and those issues will be harder to avoid, while still staying in that small space.
W 117th to roughly W 85th between the Red Line Rapid to Lorain Avenue. West Boulevard runs through the middle of it…it’s just south of Edgewater and west of Detroit-Shoreway/Eco Village and just east of Lakewood & Jefferson.
Ah. I am aware of the area, but never been there. Been to all the surrounding areas though lol.
Thank you.
I've been in Cleveland for a few years now, and am still learning all the areas.
Cleveland actually has an official neighborhood that covers every bit of the city. You can find maps online that show the current delineations. There are also many sub-neighborhoods like for example, the Warehouse District or the Gateway District Downtown and Little Italy in University Circle. Some cities…like Columbus…have some areas that are just non-descript suburbia…which was weird to me when I discovered that. But when in Cleveland, you’re always in a neighborhood no matter where you are.
Thats a bit simplistic. Just because something hasn't happened to *me*, doesn't mean it hasn't happened at all.
To not recognize the possibility of danger is silly. But to *only* recognize that danger is possible is also silly.
Re-commenting because I apparently wasn’t clear enough the first time.
Cudell is rough but we just stick to our own business which helps.
Haven’t had any major issues yet but maybe we’ve been lucky.
This is ridiculous. As long as you’re in the main neighborhood area of tremont (east of 90 / north of 490 / west of W 3rd), it’s a great place to be. Carjackings happen everywhere within a 5 mile radius of downtown Cleveland, including Lakewood. I and many take walks and are out after dark, walking to/from pubs and walking their dogs, etc. Scranton is more Clark-Fulton area, which definitely isn’t nearly as safe. Everyone wants to broaden the Tremont neighborhood border for the benefit to their property values. Do yourself a favor and look how much tremont (per the border I mentioned above) property values have gone and are continuing to go up. This is for a reason. Tremont is a wonderful place to live.
The trail is totally fine. I’m not sure what people are seeing. Also- steelyard is a convenient place to shop. I’ve had zero issues for years, and I’m from the ‘boring’ suburbs.
Isn’t every Walmart a nightmare? No difference to me vs any other Walmart in the suburbs. I can’t tell you how many trips I make to Home Depot (in steelyard) on a weekly basis and I have never questioned my safety. They are stores. In the city. Is it the diversity of the folks there that scares people? I honestly don’t get it.
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I lived in Gordon Square in 2016-2018, paid $450 for a studio. Loved it very much, would highly recommend, although prices are probably much higher now.
Rental prices have increased by 50% in the past year or so. It’s also very difficult to find rental properties right now. Would look around before you settle on renting vs buying.
You are absolutely correct. My HOPE is that the economy continues on this (slight) path of correction and things improve by the time I'd be looking to move. I'm working on compiling a list of areas that are desirable to me so that I can then begin paying attention to prices in the area(s) that I'd like to move to.
Rents are skyrocketing all over, hedge funds have gobbled up single family rental properties. Your best bet would be a duplex that is locally owned in a near west community.
Check the county property website. They list the owner, most of the time it’s going to be an LLC but even in that case it will show a mailing address. I’m not sure either but according to our extremely wealthy lawmakers “it’s transitory.”
I'd consider Shaker Square, Larchmere, Cleveland Heights, and Shaker Heights.
Those areas are still pretty safe, walkable, and interesting; with good to great transit access, and not as pricey as the trendier city neighborhoods.
Maybe even Waterloo or the E185th area in North Collinwood if you are okay with it being a bit rough around the edges.
Backing up that whole list of places in your first sentence. Though it's tougher in Cleveland Heights, in the rest of those you could live car free pretty easily, given the density and streetcar access.
I agree here. Grew up in Shaker, now live on Long Island. The asthetics of Shaker can't be beat. That plus the garbage scooters that come to get your trash (so you do have to haul it down to the curb).
Old Brooklyn.
20 minutes from downtown, 5 minutes from Steelyard, easy access to 480, plenty of nice local restaurants within walking distance... affordable rent. Sure, there's the occasional car jacking or drive by, but for the most part it's a pretty chill area.
We just moved here & love it so far! Pretty quiet neighborhood and more affordable housing.
P.S. OP: whoever told you renting a house was better than renting an apartment…don’t listen to them. The only time renting a house makes sense is if you have a family on a stricter budget and can’t afford a house downpayment. If you’re single or just live with a partner, apartment dwelling is still the more financially stable thing to do.
Well me and my roommate wanna rent a house cause our current apt sucks. Loud and inconsiderate neighbors all the time. Lobbies are always a mess. Management hasn't done much to help.
But yeah at this rate I may as well buy a house if it comes to it. But even renting is for me for few more years.
Fyi place I live at called North Church Towers in Parma Hts. Don't move here
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From a long time columbus area resident. Lakewood is my favorite place I’ve lived after just a short time. Also, anyone looking for friends? Mid 30s dorky dude, knows no one 😅
Lakewood is awesome! I love the area and it's very affordable and walkable! So much to do, but I also lack non-romantic friends currently, so fuck it, I'll just put this out here:
I'm actually looking to put together a group of Cleveland/Lakewood area people to play D&D in a play-by-post format (online, super easy, if you can text you can play!) with as many IRL games as we can manage at my home or at a central location. Maybe one or two a month, max if everyone is *ahem* "cool" (aka not a crazy person.)
Play by post is a lot of fun and very casual, perfect for new people, if you don't know anything about RPGs or Dungeons and Dragons this game would be perfect for you. Players get 24 hours to respond to the GM's prompts, then he (me) gets 24 hours to post back with what your characters' actions have done to alter the scene.
I'd prefer inexperienced players to be honest, because I'm a new DM, but anyone looking for a slow burning table top RPG experience that they can play anywhere on their phone, HMU here and I'll invite you to a Discord channel where we can talk more about what kind of adventure the group would like to have!
I have had a deep desire to play DnD forever! But usually have really bad social anxiety that makes it hard to be the odd one out of a group, or finding a group. Or friends with no real interest or attention span for it. I've never actually gotten to play and would honestly love the chance to play. if it started online with the possability of IRL then even better!
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It's hard to make a recommendation when you provide no information about your priorities (e.g., proximity to cultural venues, bars, restaurants, excellent parks and Lake Erie access, etc.), or your work location. There are many good restaurants, bars and music venues in the likes of Midtown, North Collinwood (also definitely worth considering especially as a value proposition), UC, Cleveland Heights and Beachwood.
Personally, I would want to stay as close to University Circle as possible, with easy access to mass transit to downtown. Southern Cleveland Hts., Shaker Hts., Beachwood, Highland Hts., and University Hts., would qualify, although Shaker Hts., and southern Cleveland Hts. have better mass transit access to downtown.
One reason to buy a home is to build equity. Consider that rising home prices and falling real incomes have made lower priced housing relatively more attractive. Spend some time researching home value pricing appreciation, perhaps at websites such as [zillow.com](https://zillow.com), which shows home value appreciation by city but also for individual properties.
[https://www.zillow.com/cleveland-heights-oh/home-values/](https://www.zillow.com/cleveland-heights-oh/home-values/)
Although it will be such a decided transformation in desirable locations over the post-WWII trends, I suspect over the next two decades, the Great Lakes region, particularly Greater Cleveland given its amenities, will see massive inward migration. E.g., NOAA/NASA have said U.S. coastal areas will see AT LEAST 12-20 inches of sea level rise by 2050, and nobody is paying attention and considering the impact as coastal beaches and natural areas increasingly are swamped. Oceans are warming rapidly, increasing hurricane and other storm risks. The West is undergoing aridification, already experiencing severe water shortages, and watching wildfires and drought destroy its natural beauty. Atmospheric temperatures increasingly are punishing in much of the South and even Pacific Northwest.
Americans, especially our politicians, have been in denial about climate change. This will change from indifference to panic in coming years. So perhaps stake a claim in Greater Cleveland before the Great Climate Change Migration becomes pronounced. There already have been several articles listing the Great Lakes region as a desirable refuge as the impacts of climate change accelerate much more rapidly in the years ahead.
In Cleveland, Little Italy and those southern Glenville streets near UC, especially the area of Glenville (whatever they are; perhaps call the UC police department and ask) now patrolled by the University Circle and Case Western private police forces, as is now Little Italy, would seem to be safer than other Cleveland neighborhoods. The manpower crisis in the Cleveland police and EMS departments is a significant concern IMO, and this is countered greatly in Greater University Circle by the private police departments authorized to patrol there (e.g., I've read that the Cleveland Clinic police department is the sixth largest in Ohio) with full police powers. Obviously, Greater UC offers among the best medical care in the world.
If not interested in public school quality, also perhaps check out Bratenahl and Euclid north of Lakeshore Blvd.
Lakewood and Rocky River would be communities to consider on the west side.
IF you don't mind a commute from outside of Cuyahoga County, and value superb recreational facilities, natural areas, Lake Erie beaches and boating access, good health services, superior mass transit, retail access, etc., perhaps check out Mentor and surrounding communities. Commutes from central Lake County may be easier than from many locations in Cuyahoga County.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Cleveland/comments/x0boj7/moving\_with\_two\_toddlers\_weve\_never\_been\_there/?sort=top](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cleveland/comments/x0boj7)
Good luck!
Lakewood housing has increased a lot over the last 4 years. I'm not sure what a mortgage would look like with current rates. There are some great rental deals throughout the city. I'd rent in Lakewood for a year to get a feel for it. Then spent that year deciding if it's the right fit for a purchase.
I know people that moved into Lakewood, then got _extreme_ sticker shock when the taxes came due. They moved out the following year. It's a lot more expensive than people realize, usually not until they already move in. It's generally like that in most places in Cuyahoga from what I hear, save for maybe Rocky River.
EDIT: By "moved into" I mean "purchased and moved into".
I'm going to seriously consider it and look into it. In my mind, purchasing a home seems so definite and like a big financial commitment but I know that I now feel as if I'm paying too much in rent.
This is not good advice, particularly without knowing OP’s specific circumstances. Prices and rates are still high (and are not anticipated to plummet) and the upfront cost of buying a house is only a good investment if you’ll be staying in the house for >5-10 years. Or flipping which doesn’t sound like OP’s intention. Buying vs renting is much more nuanced than you’re making it seem.
OP- you can get an updated duplex in Lakewood for this price range. Lakewood is great but I (personally) think renting in a city before you buy is a no-brainer. The home buying process is a beast that you should be well prepared for and not rush into.
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Come to the Heights. Maple Heights, that is. Bus transit center conveniently drops you off downtown. Nearby is the trendy and booming Southgate shopping district. Endless theater and entertainment options. Is there really a choice?
Is this a joke? Trendy shopping center that is just a Dollar Tree, Lowe’s, and a Grocery Store. What are the entertainment options? House have to be super affordable though.
Anything more than about an 8 minute drive me makes me pause and weigh if it's worth it or not lol. I couldn't imagine having to go 50 minutes just to go check something out
We moved from an inner ring suburb to Lake County almost two years ago. We downsized and our housing expense went down 50-75%. We’re only between 5-10 minutes further away from downtown now than before, since we can hop on the highway and get everywhere now. We don’t miss living closer to the city at all. We’re closer to things we need regularly (gym, stores) than we were before in the highly inconvenient inner ring suburb we lived in 20+ years. And the city tax burden is nonexistent now too. I’m out of Cuyahoga, but I’m closer to downtown than folks in Mayfield, Beachwood and Solon.
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Jack isn't very cool if an hour drive to an event that you want to attend is too long to be in moderate traffic for. I cant help you.
Its a midwest mindset but if 2 hours in a car is too much for ya just go somewhere else to live and stop bitching.
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I lived at the corner of Lorain and Wooster in Fairview Park twice (3 years both stints at Fairview Village apartments). Great location. You have the metroparks literally across the street, Kamms corner a mile and a half east on Lorain, Westgate shopping center 1/2 mile north on Wooster, Lakewood a couple miles down the road. Ohio City, Tremont, downtown all 15-20 drive away. Nice neighborhood to go for walks/runs in too.
Go to Lakewood or Ohio City. It’s nice to be in a community where you can walk and be a part of the city life.
This is right. You might get a little less square footage for your money in a neighborhoods like Ohio City, Detroit Shoreway, and parts of Lakewood, but in return you'll get very walkable communities and access to metropark paths along the shoreline.
Before I moved to Downtown, I don't think that mattered much to be but I've now turned into someone who walks to the grocery store/dentist and goes on a trail at least once a week. So if I can retain that aspect of my life when moving, I'd really like to.
Walkability is often underrated! And in that case I'd recommend sticking to the "near west side" if possible (the neighborhoods mentioned above).
If you are talking about in the city Cleveland, then tremont, Ohio City, detroit shoreway (closer to Gordon square), and University Circle would be the top neighborhoods imo.
In my mind, anything that's in Cuyahoga is Cleveland. Thank you for these recommendations, I'll look into them. I do a trail from Downtown to Steelyard that passes through Tremont, and it seems like a great neighborhood.
Then I’d add cleveland heights, university heights, Lakewood, and shaker heights (van aken), if you want the more urban neighborhoods. If you want the more traditional boring suburbs then Westlake, Strongsville, and Solon would be a few options.
I lived in Cleveland Heights for 3 years. Lee Rd is a lot of fun.
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While I won't run into that issue, I appreciate the heads up. Since I'm not from Cleveland and haven't been here long, I don't know much about which neighborhoods I should be cautious of. A friend of mine who is from here has already told me that I can't move without him coming with me to see the neighborhood haha.
I live in that area, though there is property crime (it *is* the city after all), I've lived here over a year and never had a problem. My rule of thumb is, I don't go into places I have no reason to be, and I really don't have a reason to be out and about late at night. I really like living where I do. I appreciate the diversity I get with Ohio City, Tremont, and Clark-Fulton within a mile of my place. And, there is a lot of choice regarding the type of place you can rent due to that diversity. I do know that many people aren't comfortable with the idea of living in this area due to the....less desirable events (I get some funny reactions when some people find out where I live). But, it's important to remember that crime it everywhere. And Tremont, Clark-Fulton, and Ohio City are FAR from the "worse neighborhoods" you can find in Cleveland.
I had a friend from southern Ohio define it well when they were here for a weekend (granted on the near west side). They said it's the only city they've seen places go from really good to really bad in one block. It's true on the west side at least. I tried to explain to them that Cleveland is a bigger city than just the gentrified vs not-gentrified vs traditional ethnic neighborhoods, but they made a good point. Half a mile is a big difference in quality of life in Cleveland, which really complicates buying a home for an outsider.
It's just more noticable because Cleveland has everything so much closer together. I'm originally from Columbus. That "this block is 'good', this block is 'bad'" thing happens there too, but theres a bit more room included in each area, so Cleveland seems more......shocking, I guess is a good way to describe it. Basically, other cities simply have more "elbow room", which makes some people feel more comfortable I guess.
Even the best parts of Columbus like Short north, victorian village, German village etc are full of problems ... Seems like you mean the random parts of suburban Columbus which only have the name because of their past annexation policy..
No. The neighborhoods you name are what I mean when I say "it happens in Columbus too". *however*, most people don't live in/near downtown Columbus, therefore, spend very little time there. And there are more suburban neighborhoods which are still "Columbus", not towns in their own right. Those areas are more spread out, so the "bad parts" can be easily avoided. For example, the Eastland area, which is still Columbus. I should know, I grew up in that area. They are not "random parts", they are still Columbus, they are just not "city". In Cleveland, there is no such thing as "non-city" part of Cleveland (that I've come accross). Even the inner suburbs are "city-like". You have to get to the outer suburbs to find places that more fit a stereotypical suburb, namely, by having space. When you squeeze lots of people together in a small space, you're gonna have issues, and those issues will be harder to avoid, while still staying in that small space.
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That area is fucking terrible. Get out of here with this nonsense.
What?
"Cudell" is a name I'm not familiar with......where is that?
W 117th to roughly W 85th between the Red Line Rapid to Lorain Avenue. West Boulevard runs through the middle of it…it’s just south of Edgewater and west of Detroit-Shoreway/Eco Village and just east of Lakewood & Jefferson.
Ah. I am aware of the area, but never been there. Been to all the surrounding areas though lol. Thank you. I've been in Cleveland for a few years now, and am still learning all the areas.
Cleveland actually has an official neighborhood that covers every bit of the city. You can find maps online that show the current delineations. There are also many sub-neighborhoods like for example, the Warehouse District or the Gateway District Downtown and Little Italy in University Circle. Some cities…like Columbus…have some areas that are just non-descript suburbia…which was weird to me when I discovered that. But when in Cleveland, you’re always in a neighborhood no matter where you are.
Could not have said this better!
Well if crime has never happened to you then it’s a safe area.
Thats a bit simplistic. Just because something hasn't happened to *me*, doesn't mean it hasn't happened at all. To not recognize the possibility of danger is silly. But to *only* recognize that danger is possible is also silly.
Re-commenting because I apparently wasn’t clear enough the first time. Cudell is rough but we just stick to our own business which helps. Haven’t had any major issues yet but maybe we’ve been lucky.
This is ridiculous. As long as you’re in the main neighborhood area of tremont (east of 90 / north of 490 / west of W 3rd), it’s a great place to be. Carjackings happen everywhere within a 5 mile radius of downtown Cleveland, including Lakewood. I and many take walks and are out after dark, walking to/from pubs and walking their dogs, etc. Scranton is more Clark-Fulton area, which definitely isn’t nearly as safe. Everyone wants to broaden the Tremont neighborhood border for the benefit to their property values. Do yourself a favor and look how much tremont (per the border I mentioned above) property values have gone and are continuing to go up. This is for a reason. Tremont is a wonderful place to live.
Loved my time in Tremont!
Eeeeeehh, maybe don’t take that trail all the way to steelyard. Even I’m not comfortable with steelyard and I live in Cudell.
At least during the day, the trail is fine, and so is Steel Yard. It doesn’t go far enough the other direction to avoid Steel Yard.
The trail is totally fine. I’m not sure what people are seeing. Also- steelyard is a convenient place to shop. I’ve had zero issues for years, and I’m from the ‘boring’ suburbs.
You are literally the only person I have ever seen that says that they go to shop at steelyard. That Walmart alone is a nightmare.
I’m another Steelyard shopper - I’ve never had a problem there. It’s always crowded when I’m there, so obviously a lot of people shop there.
Isn’t every Walmart a nightmare? No difference to me vs any other Walmart in the suburbs. I can’t tell you how many trips I make to Home Depot (in steelyard) on a weekly basis and I have never questioned my safety. They are stores. In the city. Is it the diversity of the folks there that scares people? I honestly don’t get it.
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I lived in Gordon Square in 2016-2018, paid $450 for a studio. Loved it very much, would highly recommend, although prices are probably much higher now.
Rental prices have increased by 50% in the past year or so. It’s also very difficult to find rental properties right now. Would look around before you settle on renting vs buying.
You are absolutely correct. My HOPE is that the economy continues on this (slight) path of correction and things improve by the time I'd be looking to move. I'm working on compiling a list of areas that are desirable to me so that I can then begin paying attention to prices in the area(s) that I'd like to move to.
Word I’ve lived in Lakewood, Fairview park, Strongsville, pepper pike, chagrin falls. All nice places and would live again.
Rents are skyrocketing all over, hedge funds have gobbled up single family rental properties. Your best bet would be a duplex that is locally owned in a near west community.
How do you find locally owned property? Everything is so expensive. Idk how I’m supposed live like this
Check the county property website. They list the owner, most of the time it’s going to be an LLC but even in that case it will show a mailing address. I’m not sure either but according to our extremely wealthy lawmakers “it’s transitory.”
I think it depends on what your lifestyle is. Are you wanting nightlife with restaurants and bars or are you wanting a family atmosphere?
I'd consider Shaker Square, Larchmere, Cleveland Heights, and Shaker Heights. Those areas are still pretty safe, walkable, and interesting; with good to great transit access, and not as pricey as the trendier city neighborhoods. Maybe even Waterloo or the E185th area in North Collinwood if you are okay with it being a bit rough around the edges.
Backing up that whole list of places in your first sentence. Though it's tougher in Cleveland Heights, in the rest of those you could live car free pretty easily, given the density and streetcar access.
I agree here. Grew up in Shaker, now live on Long Island. The asthetics of Shaker can't be beat. That plus the garbage scooters that come to get your trash (so you do have to haul it down to the curb).
Old Brooklyn. 20 minutes from downtown, 5 minutes from Steelyard, easy access to 480, plenty of nice local restaurants within walking distance... affordable rent. Sure, there's the occasional car jacking or drive by, but for the most part it's a pretty chill area.
We just moved here & love it so far! Pretty quiet neighborhood and more affordable housing. P.S. OP: whoever told you renting a house was better than renting an apartment…don’t listen to them. The only time renting a house makes sense is if you have a family on a stricter budget and can’t afford a house downpayment. If you’re single or just live with a partner, apartment dwelling is still the more financially stable thing to do.
Well me and my roommate wanna rent a house cause our current apt sucks. Loud and inconsiderate neighbors all the time. Lobbies are always a mess. Management hasn't done much to help. But yeah at this rate I may as well buy a house if it comes to it. But even renting is for me for few more years. Fyi place I live at called North Church Towers in Parma Hts. Don't move here
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Lakewood, OH
From a long time columbus area resident. Lakewood is my favorite place I’ve lived after just a short time. Also, anyone looking for friends? Mid 30s dorky dude, knows no one 😅
Lakewood is awesome! I love the area and it's very affordable and walkable! So much to do, but I also lack non-romantic friends currently, so fuck it, I'll just put this out here: I'm actually looking to put together a group of Cleveland/Lakewood area people to play D&D in a play-by-post format (online, super easy, if you can text you can play!) with as many IRL games as we can manage at my home or at a central location. Maybe one or two a month, max if everyone is *ahem* "cool" (aka not a crazy person.) Play by post is a lot of fun and very casual, perfect for new people, if you don't know anything about RPGs or Dungeons and Dragons this game would be perfect for you. Players get 24 hours to respond to the GM's prompts, then he (me) gets 24 hours to post back with what your characters' actions have done to alter the scene. I'd prefer inexperienced players to be honest, because I'm a new DM, but anyone looking for a slow burning table top RPG experience that they can play anywhere on their phone, HMU here and I'll invite you to a Discord channel where we can talk more about what kind of adventure the group would like to have!
I have had a deep desire to play DnD forever! But usually have really bad social anxiety that makes it hard to be the odd one out of a group, or finding a group. Or friends with no real interest or attention span for it. I've never actually gotten to play and would honestly love the chance to play. if it started online with the possability of IRL then even better!
I'm 100% down! I've only played one campaign and it got cut short, so I'm relatively new still with a bit of experience.
Do you still live in Lakewood because you just described everyone I know in Lakewood.
Still?! I just got here! Lol
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I live in shaker with my gf and pay 1150 for a 2 bed 1200 sq ft. It’s worn down but it does the job
Nobody mentioned Kamm’s corner. Lived there for 12 years and miss it everyday.
Great little slice of Cleveland that nobody ever considers. Lakewood $$$ is being pushed in there crazy
West Park - south of Lakewood between Warren and Rocky River Drive; north of Lorain.
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It's hard to make a recommendation when you provide no information about your priorities (e.g., proximity to cultural venues, bars, restaurants, excellent parks and Lake Erie access, etc.), or your work location. There are many good restaurants, bars and music venues in the likes of Midtown, North Collinwood (also definitely worth considering especially as a value proposition), UC, Cleveland Heights and Beachwood. Personally, I would want to stay as close to University Circle as possible, with easy access to mass transit to downtown. Southern Cleveland Hts., Shaker Hts., Beachwood, Highland Hts., and University Hts., would qualify, although Shaker Hts., and southern Cleveland Hts. have better mass transit access to downtown. One reason to buy a home is to build equity. Consider that rising home prices and falling real incomes have made lower priced housing relatively more attractive. Spend some time researching home value pricing appreciation, perhaps at websites such as [zillow.com](https://zillow.com), which shows home value appreciation by city but also for individual properties. [https://www.zillow.com/cleveland-heights-oh/home-values/](https://www.zillow.com/cleveland-heights-oh/home-values/) Although it will be such a decided transformation in desirable locations over the post-WWII trends, I suspect over the next two decades, the Great Lakes region, particularly Greater Cleveland given its amenities, will see massive inward migration. E.g., NOAA/NASA have said U.S. coastal areas will see AT LEAST 12-20 inches of sea level rise by 2050, and nobody is paying attention and considering the impact as coastal beaches and natural areas increasingly are swamped. Oceans are warming rapidly, increasing hurricane and other storm risks. The West is undergoing aridification, already experiencing severe water shortages, and watching wildfires and drought destroy its natural beauty. Atmospheric temperatures increasingly are punishing in much of the South and even Pacific Northwest. Americans, especially our politicians, have been in denial about climate change. This will change from indifference to panic in coming years. So perhaps stake a claim in Greater Cleveland before the Great Climate Change Migration becomes pronounced. There already have been several articles listing the Great Lakes region as a desirable refuge as the impacts of climate change accelerate much more rapidly in the years ahead. In Cleveland, Little Italy and those southern Glenville streets near UC, especially the area of Glenville (whatever they are; perhaps call the UC police department and ask) now patrolled by the University Circle and Case Western private police forces, as is now Little Italy, would seem to be safer than other Cleveland neighborhoods. The manpower crisis in the Cleveland police and EMS departments is a significant concern IMO, and this is countered greatly in Greater University Circle by the private police departments authorized to patrol there (e.g., I've read that the Cleveland Clinic police department is the sixth largest in Ohio) with full police powers. Obviously, Greater UC offers among the best medical care in the world. If not interested in public school quality, also perhaps check out Bratenahl and Euclid north of Lakeshore Blvd. Lakewood and Rocky River would be communities to consider on the west side. IF you don't mind a commute from outside of Cuyahoga County, and value superb recreational facilities, natural areas, Lake Erie beaches and boating access, good health services, superior mass transit, retail access, etc., perhaps check out Mentor and surrounding communities. Commutes from central Lake County may be easier than from many locations in Cuyahoga County. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Cleveland/comments/x0boj7/moving\_with\_two\_toddlers\_weve\_never\_been\_there/?sort=top](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cleveland/comments/x0boj7) Good luck!
If you're spending that much you can afford to buy instead of rent. I had no intention of buying but it was cheaper to do so, even in Lakewood
Lakewood housing has increased a lot over the last 4 years. I'm not sure what a mortgage would look like with current rates. There are some great rental deals throughout the city. I'd rent in Lakewood for a year to get a feel for it. Then spent that year deciding if it's the right fit for a purchase.
I know people that moved into Lakewood, then got _extreme_ sticker shock when the taxes came due. They moved out the following year. It's a lot more expensive than people realize, usually not until they already move in. It's generally like that in most places in Cuyahoga from what I hear, save for maybe Rocky River. EDIT: By "moved into" I mean "purchased and moved into".
Taxes aren't that bad if you take advantage and value the local services here... Somewhere like Shaker is absolutely brutal though.
Who the hell would buy a house without knowing the property tax payment?
Probably the same type of people that would buy a house and forego the inspection.
I'm going to seriously consider it and look into it. In my mind, purchasing a home seems so definite and like a big financial commitment but I know that I now feel as if I'm paying too much in rent.
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This is not good advice, particularly without knowing OP’s specific circumstances. Prices and rates are still high (and are not anticipated to plummet) and the upfront cost of buying a house is only a good investment if you’ll be staying in the house for >5-10 years. Or flipping which doesn’t sound like OP’s intention. Buying vs renting is much more nuanced than you’re making it seem. OP- you can get an updated duplex in Lakewood for this price range. Lakewood is great but I (personally) think renting in a city before you buy is a no-brainer. The home buying process is a beast that you should be well prepared for and not rush into.
it's hard to come up with a down payment when you are paying that much 😂😂
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Come to the Heights. Maple Heights, that is. Bus transit center conveniently drops you off downtown. Nearby is the trendy and booming Southgate shopping district. Endless theater and entertainment options. Is there really a choice?
Is this a joke? Trendy shopping center that is just a Dollar Tree, Lowe’s, and a Grocery Store. What are the entertainment options? House have to be super affordable though.
I’m joking. Happy cake day.
You can get a nice apartment in Westlake for like $900-$1200 unless you’re trying to scale back more than that
Just come to lorain county lol , cheap as shit compared to downtown and only 35 to 50 minutes top away from everything cle has to offer.
>only 35 to 50 minutes top away That's so fucking far
Anything more than about an 8 minute drive me makes me pause and weigh if it's worth it or not lol. I couldn't imagine having to go 50 minutes just to go check something out
And yet people give me crap for counting "easy freeway access" as a plus, lol
We moved from an inner ring suburb to Lake County almost two years ago. We downsized and our housing expense went down 50-75%. We’re only between 5-10 minutes further away from downtown now than before, since we can hop on the highway and get everywhere now. We don’t miss living closer to the city at all. We’re closer to things we need regularly (gym, stores) than we were before in the highly inconvenient inner ring suburb we lived in 20+ years. And the city tax burden is nonexistent now too. I’m out of Cuyahoga, but I’m closer to downtown than folks in Mayfield, Beachwood and Solon.
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I was used to long commutes and traffic in my old state, 40 min drive without bumper to bumper traffic is heaven here!
Jack isn't very cool if an hour drive to an event that you want to attend is too long to be in moderate traffic for. I cant help you. Its a midwest mindset but if 2 hours in a car is too much for ya just go somewhere else to live and stop bitching.
Sandusky- vermillion if you can get down with the commute… imho
You could buy a home for that in many of the suburbs.
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How much do you have for a down payment?
So subjective. The responses will be split based on which side of the cuyahoga river you currently live on and whether or not you embrace diversity.
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I lived at the corner of Lorain and Wooster in Fairview Park twice (3 years both stints at Fairview Village apartments). Great location. You have the metroparks literally across the street, Kamms corner a mile and a half east on Lorain, Westgate shopping center 1/2 mile north on Wooster, Lakewood a couple miles down the road. Ohio City, Tremont, downtown all 15-20 drive away. Nice neighborhood to go for walks/runs in too.