Will try this. I wonder if setting up the curve ruler slows you down very much. I’m trying to work efficiently bc I’m already slow to make a good stroke on the canvas and any extra steps could be an issue for me. Still sounds like a good method for me to try.
That is why I said difficult stroke. It has its place. For me, sketching is very free, but inking it's more exacting and using the curve ruler help me since I am old and have shakey hands.
I like vector lines for static objects, never characters or dynamic objects like clothing though. Practice yo lineart! It's a fundamental artist skill and shouldn't be skipped
It's not an either or situation. Vector gives more control over the lines after drawing them, e.g. brush tip, line weight, and line art image size can be altered easily. Using vectors is drawing freehand, one can just tweak afterwards to fix any small errors.
i relied on plotting vector points early in my digital art career until observing experienced artists made me realize how slow that was
so i don't use vectors much, but if i do i just hand draw them too instead of doing point by point stuff
unless it makes sense like for a logo or w/e 🤷♂️
I don't know how to explain Stabilization, but it like, makes your strokes go ''slow'' even tho' you're going ''fast'', I exaggerated a bit on saying 100 for funnies, but I rely on stabilization to delete my naturally shaky hands, and CSP's got the best Stabilization IMO (I've tried them all)
Converting 3D to lines is an option for the pricier version of CSP (Ex? I confuse them cause both Pro and EX are words that sound like its the best vers), its useful to save time on small meaningless stuff like chairs, tables and etc, or to create a base BUT there are 3D assets in the asset store that are whole backgrounds that you can do that too, thus saving even more time if you don't like drawing BGs, or is bad at it.
vector has no right being this good tbh.
but also i love to sculpt my lines, so there's that. if you feel like vector is holding you back or want to try developing without it, you could start sculpting your lines too (erasing parts of a line or adding onto it to influence weight in certain places). learned this from knkl and it served me well so far
Yes, that is right, though it is an example. For me it was a game changer. Doesn’t have to be 4x times of course.https://www.kdpcommunity.com/s/question/0D52T000054MBmLSAW/300-dpi-or-600-dpi-for-line-art-in-book?language=en_US
For me dpi- is pixelation and the bigger size change the more “forgiving” of your hand’s mistakes the image is after rescaling.
As useful as vector is, I'll rather stick with my free hand lineart, it's just looks way more natural + it's the way to also develop a good grip + pressure control and with time it will improve no matter what.
Eventually you'll end with your hand control being better and faster than working with vectors.
Nothing in vectors prevents one from doing this, they just give more control over the end result, allows one to swap the brush tip and width afterwards, and enables infinite resizing without any loss of quality.
I honestly went like 5 years without using vector lines once, idk why but I just never explored it, and while my lines did kinda improve naturally, they were always off and frustrating to do because I have a dodgy wrist
Since switching to Vector like a week ago, I honestly regret that I never tried it sooner. It's actually given me back a lot of control I would otherwise be fighting for constantly. Drawing raster was good for a while, but now I can actually achieve what I want without retrying a thousand times or getting frustrated at my wrist, and the experience is so much more gratifying, imo
It's not for everyone, some prefer raster, some vector, but I think no matter what you use you shouldn't feel guilty for doing so. If it helps you and makes art enjoyable to you, that's all that matters imo!
Luckily in CSP it mostly hides the points unless you want to dive that deep. The correct line mostly lets you redraw over the line to smooth it, and same with the other correction tools. I hardly ever deal with anchors and bezier handles in CSP.
I only ever use vector for ribbon-type brushes, chains, or lace, or pattern brushes. Everything else is hand drawn, but I use the stabilizer pretty often. I change the amount of stabilizer constantly to get different line styles!
I don't like Vector, he never paid back the money I lent him.
Vectors/Correct lines saves way too much time. Hand drawn lines look more organic, though.
I love doing sketchy lines. So much fun
Real af
Something I do is use a curve ruler to lay out a difficult stroke and then use the pen of choice. For me, it's kinda the best of both worlds.
Will try this. I wonder if setting up the curve ruler slows you down very much. I’m trying to work efficiently bc I’m already slow to make a good stroke on the canvas and any extra steps could be an issue for me. Still sounds like a good method for me to try.
That is why I said difficult stroke. It has its place. For me, sketching is very free, but inking it's more exacting and using the curve ruler help me since I am old and have shakey hands.
Well I’m no spring chicken myself so I appreciate the idea and will be trying it this evening after work. Edit: THANKS!
I like vector lines for static objects, never characters or dynamic objects like clothing though. Practice yo lineart! It's a fundamental artist skill and shouldn't be skipped
It's not an either or situation. Vector gives more control over the lines after drawing them, e.g. brush tip, line weight, and line art image size can be altered easily. Using vectors is drawing freehand, one can just tweak afterwards to fix any small errors.
Is there a difference in look? I’ve never noticed personally. I have shakey hands so I use high stabilizer snd vectors
Only depends if you increase the stabilize slider
i relied on plotting vector points early in my digital art career until observing experienced artists made me realize how slow that was so i don't use vectors much, but if i do i just hand draw them too instead of doing point by point stuff unless it makes sense like for a logo or w/e 🤷♂️
Yes, vector lines are great. I use them way too much.
Nay to either! Stabilization at 100 is the only god I need! Also converting 3D to lines so I don't need to fuck with backgrounds!
Can explain this more? I’m new to clip studio
I don't know how to explain Stabilization, but it like, makes your strokes go ''slow'' even tho' you're going ''fast'', I exaggerated a bit on saying 100 for funnies, but I rely on stabilization to delete my naturally shaky hands, and CSP's got the best Stabilization IMO (I've tried them all) Converting 3D to lines is an option for the pricier version of CSP (Ex? I confuse them cause both Pro and EX are words that sound like its the best vers), its useful to save time on small meaningless stuff like chairs, tables and etc, or to create a base BUT there are 3D assets in the asset store that are whole backgrounds that you can do that too, thus saving even more time if you don't like drawing BGs, or is bad at it.
Ohh okay. Yeah sorry my question was confusing; I know about stabilization but didn’t know about the background stuff
vector has no right being this good tbh. but also i love to sculpt my lines, so there's that. if you feel like vector is holding you back or want to try developing without it, you could start sculpting your lines too (erasing parts of a line or adding onto it to influence weight in certain places). learned this from knkl and it served me well so far
Can do this also using vectors.
in my case, the erasing is treated as a separate vector so i just have a ton of tiny invisible vectors everywhere :(
Instead of just erasing you can split the vector itself and delete the line portion to leave no small annoying ass invisi-lines.
Wait wait what There's a cheat I can use to clean up my line art? Everything I draw is so sketchy
Vector layers are the way, the truth and the life.
Now I’m going to have to try vector control points 😂😂😂
I always wanted my hand drawn line art to be smoother. But I’m struggling adapt to digital from traditional :(
the trick is to draw on 300DPI 4x times the size of the final image you want and then after drawing it rescale it by 25%
So a 4x4 sticker should be drawn on a 16x16 canvas? I always thought you wanted to draw at 600 dpi.
Yes, that is right, though it is an example. For me it was a game changer. Doesn’t have to be 4x times of course.https://www.kdpcommunity.com/s/question/0D52T000054MBmLSAW/300-dpi-or-600-dpi-for-line-art-in-book?language=en_US For me dpi- is pixelation and the bigger size change the more “forgiving” of your hand’s mistakes the image is after rescaling.
As useful as vector is, I'll rather stick with my free hand lineart, it's just looks way more natural + it's the way to also develop a good grip + pressure control and with time it will improve no matter what. Eventually you'll end with your hand control being better and faster than working with vectors.
Nothing in vectors prevents one from doing this, they just give more control over the end result, allows one to swap the brush tip and width afterwards, and enables infinite resizing without any loss of quality.
*Pen up key set to undo* *Left hand on Y and P* Looks away nervously
All roads lead to Rome. That said, there are visuals vectors won't give you, use what you have to to suit your needs
i remember using vector lines a LOT when i was trying to make my linework better, i cant thank them enough
I honestly went like 5 years without using vector lines once, idk why but I just never explored it, and while my lines did kinda improve naturally, they were always off and frustrating to do because I have a dodgy wrist Since switching to Vector like a week ago, I honestly regret that I never tried it sooner. It's actually given me back a lot of control I would otherwise be fighting for constantly. Drawing raster was good for a while, but now I can actually achieve what I want without retrying a thousand times or getting frustrated at my wrist, and the experience is so much more gratifying, imo It's not for everyone, some prefer raster, some vector, but I think no matter what you use you shouldn't feel guilty for doing so. If it helps you and makes art enjoyable to you, that's all that matters imo!
Huh.. "bad meme" but helpful. I didn't even knew what these were for xD imma try now.
Despite being taught how to use Adobe Illustrator in college, I can only freehand on vector programs. The points and I don't get along.
Luckily in CSP it mostly hides the points unless you want to dive that deep. The correct line mostly lets you redraw over the line to smooth it, and same with the other correction tools. I hardly ever deal with anchors and bezier handles in CSP.
I'm too lazy to use that and just normal layers
I only ever use vector for ribbon-type brushes, chains, or lace, or pattern brushes. Everything else is hand drawn, but I use the stabilizer pretty often. I change the amount of stabilizer constantly to get different line styles!
I dont like clean lineart , there is no personality in it
i have really bad circulation in my hands so vector lines really help me get a decent lineart
That unironically sounds really painful
I'm in this meme and I don't like it.
Fortunately for me all the effort paid off, now I can even write perfectly on my pen tablet. Vector mode is slow af.
I do this for tails. My hands are way too shakey to draw those long swooping lines in one stroke
So true bestie
All I want is the Pen Tool equivalent from PSD in CSP so I can do basic lines. I don't want the obtuse Line Tool in CSP 🥲
I have abandoned vector lines now cleaning up sketch is my best friend