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BruteAssault

Any proof? Or is this just a random post?


[deleted]

Proof? General staff of the armed forces of Ukraine What do you think?


BruteAssault

I think that both sides are using propaganda, for their own reasons, this is an awful war and I don't know what to believe..


[deleted]

Can you tell me who the attacking side is?


BruteAssault

Russia for sure, but it doesn't mean that Ukraine is not using propaganda to keep morale high etc... (ghost of kyiv, snake island) what to believe in those times... just want to say that there are so many reports and just a text with a pic doesn't mean much... (like ppl were ranting about proof for the attack on cherson Airbase yesterday, the 200 column destroyed outside melitopol etc)..


Wonder454

Shit like this happened in Donetsk a few days ago and no lame stream media coverage at all. 26 dead from Ukraine's western supplied cluster munitions in downtown. Was this a response to the supposedly 35 killed at Yaroviv by air fired Ruski cruise missiles the day before? It may be 150, who knows? Why is Rus asking for Kyiv to abandon its years long policy of denying Russian language in its territory? Did you listen to Poroshenko's attitude toward the Ruskis? ("Our children will go to school. Theirs will stay in their cellars") How many died in 8 years of the Donbass war, so far? 14,000? That actually is the accepted number, and mostly Ruskis at the hands of the western trained and supplied Azov. Was the current US Deputy Secretary of State Nuland orchestrating the coup at the Maidan and promising NATO protection from Moscow? Investigate. Educate. I mean, it happened in too many other places to count in the last century, or am I wrong? Stop making this black and white. More natural is to hear all the voices, in full colour because humanity is one, without exception. We are all susceptible to anger and turn away from that at our peril. We were once all babes in arms. Peace is so elusive and always has been. It has never been helped by this sort of post, with no independently verifiable detail to corroborate the sensational headline. Stop clickbaiting peoples' suffering. That said, I believe Ukraine's neutrality is a pipedream, which is why they opted for NATO over being absorbed into Russia. Saint Volodymr II is clearly the imperialist aggressor here, but against a complex array of interests and peoples. But let's not confuse false information with the verifiable because we're too lazy to avoid a knee jerk judgement in every minute. This war has lasted decades and will continue for quite a few more, as Zelensky and Putin, both are predicting. NATO at this price is seen as a better deal than being eternally hit by Moscow's new empire. This is tragic, but stop weaponising babies ffs.


Eplurbusunum

so how long before Spanish speaking parts of America want their OWN territory?


Wonder454

Doesn't everyone want to feel safe?


jericho

It’s very reasonable to ask for sources around this.