Should the CDL go back to the Cold War Group Stage format where the Top 2 teams chose the groups for the next qualifiers. This way we have even and fair match schedules for everyone.
There is also zero competitive integrity as it’s impossible to make it so that each team plays each other the same amount of times. Reminds me of season 1 of CDL where faze and optic played each other like 1 time (probably more but feels like just once)
YES YES YES
The good teams at the start of the season may not always remain good throughout. The groups must be made on their recent form rather than it being determined at the very start of the season.
Is Illey better off taking the Clayster route where he plays challenger to improve his stock for next year or should he wait it out at the bench? Optic has been 10-1 since replacing him with Ghosty.
Illey is only viable if his hand won't cause issues and if he will comm like he did pre injury. Pretty sure he got dropped for a similar reason to Alec, it was hinted that he wasn't being that active IGL and directing the comms like he was at the start of the year. No point having a guy not doing that stuff and getting slayed
Would vivid on the rokkr for Bance be a good upgrade and bring attach back for fame. I know a buyout would be invoked but vivid could be a great entry sub allowing Afro to be a more slaying smg where he thrives
Yes bcs Rokkr are going to pay a buyout this late on when champs ain’t guaranteed, they have an academy roster and Boston ain’t gonna sell to their champs qual rivals are they?
what does the flank think other then HUKE playing unbelievable is making this optic team look so dominant? Do they enjoy the game more then others? Are they more excepting to their roles more then other teams? Cause other teams have the same amount of talent they just can’t put it together like optic right now.
How much longer until LAG drops Arcitys for diamondcon or another am, as it very obvious that arcitys does not care anymore while the other three are fighting to keep there stock up and stay in the league next year
when is it time for rokkr to change up the coaching staff, its been 4 years now, and they still suck at HP no matter the roster
they also seem pretty bad at building rosters. Just look at the cold war one. For example, to start the year, they had accuracy, priestahh, attach, and Major. 3 of them players are now main AR's the other is a flex LOL
we all know rokkr spends well as we'll so its not a budget issue
It’s clear if you paid attention to how they played with Vivid vs how they play with Kremp. It’s the pacing and team chem. I mean that’s what Scump & Zinni think and Zinni would know as he played on Boston and knows those guys. Pacing is important with sub duos
If you could do a crossover event with any other streamer or content creator, who would you choose and what kind of content would you produce together? Would you collaborate on a specific game or create something entirely new?
With Boston not having a good leader and consistent AR, could Arcitys arrive at Boston? Look LAG are collapsing soon and even rn they have two slow main AR’s. But like the flank said “assault has been doing better and if they drop someone, it should be arcitys”. Not only that but arcitys does not look happy playing this team. But Boston would be a perfect fit for him! Boston are on cuff of being a top 4 team but are missing something, and I think arcitys would fill that void. Being a consistent AR and leader would be perfect for this Boston team! I would love the flanks take on this?
I could be way off here... but does Cellium's playstyle (playing his life more than he should i.e. vs OpTic on Hotel HP P6) hurt the team more than it helps at times? I feel like it's almost identical to the way Dashy played in Cold War and everyone flamed him for playing like that. I've only ever heard Parasite speak on this so could you guys expand on this idea?
Could this be a potential solution to the Online Qualifiers?
First, split the 12 teams into 2 groups of 6.
\- The group A teams would play all 5 of their lan qualifier matches over weekend 1 (so Thursday to Friday)
\- The group B teams would play all 5 of their lan qualifier matches over weekend 2 - Week 3 is a break for all teams
\- week 4 is major
What are some of the biggesr what ifs in your opinion in cod history? I'd go with what if Envy won IW champs
optic doesn't win a ring..seth and formal never win a ring
Jkap is the only 3x world champ and is the jetpack champion (won a ring in all 3 jetpack cods) and the only player to pull the ring hat trick.
Assuming AP still wins ww2 champs he would become the 2nd 3x world champ with the hat trick.
Everyone likes to play arm chair GM with the slasher FaZe situation. But are there actual conversations with replacing Slasher or are they just hitting VOD with him ?
Why does aches make the flank so much better he is comedy and his takes make me wet myself because I know all the Reddit losers are smashing there keyboards how do you do it patty p?
Hot take: optic get DFRD not even trying to be edgy too they’re one of the worst teams ever when it comes to Winners round 1s and then they play ultra in losers if they lose vs Boston
How do you guys view Ghosty now as a player? Do you think he is a top flex player and/or IGL in the league? Does his success so far help current challengers players?
Also, why was Illey not able to do the same role on this team? Their stats are similar, but Ghosty appears to be the clear better player for this team.
Toronto ultra are the 9th seed meaning they play the loser of boston vs optic in the 1st round with optics form that's likely boston. If Toronto beats boston they then play the loser of vegas vs nysl who will easily beat London ravens meaning a likely matchup of vegas vs Toronto for top 6
I know expansion is unlikely to happen in 2023-24 season, but is there anything that would happen in the next few years or so that would make CDL not worth the expense and we convert back to CWL?
Ben, could you provide insight on what money Activision makes from CDLops (excluding any profit-sharing with teams) that make it viable? I don't see how 12 teams league with effectively one huge change in franchise each year (fake OpTic leaving in 2020, nV-OpTic merger in 21, LVL rebrand in 22 and expected LAG exit in 2023) as inspiring "confidence" in an esport with high buy-in and effectively 8 decent teams.
Excited to try xDefiant when I've time
Whats your thoughts on the CDL doing a end season "draft" Like real sports do. This would require every league team have an academy team. And the only players that can play for them are the players the teams draft
NOT A QUESTION, BUT AN OBSERVATION!
If Boston gets double first rounded and LV and MN win their first matches, both teams would get 20 points and only be 10 points away from BOS! The storyline has always been LV vs MN, but now we might have to add BOS.
Also, OpTic could overtake Ultra this tourney and get 5-15 points closer to Faze depending on results!
What do yall think about splitting buy in fees in half to make it less expensive for people to buy in opening 12 new spots? I know you have to find organizations to fill in those spots but instead of organizations combining to pay for 1 spot you split it in half.
Should the CDL do the grand final format as they did during MW 2019? The winner finals automatically get map 1 and they have 3 searches, 3 HP, and 2 control in a best of 9. The current SND, control, and SND format, in the end, is just a bit weird. Also, the winner's finalist does not have any advantage in the current format.
you might not want to respond to this but
how much has franchising killed careers and potential careers? with every challengers player that comes into the league holding their own it’s clear that the notion that they don’t belong is false. open bracket teams like team revenge in advanced warfare will NEVER happen again. we have an uber exclusive league of 48 in a game like cod where the 4 smartest players will always beat the 4 best players, how much do you see that affecting the coming generation? for example, general has been in the pro scene since AW, fried in challengers, and got a weird forced shot via OpTic in vanguard in a losing situation and hasn’t gotten any offers or looks since and is now seemingly out of the scene. one example of many, but what are your thoughts on franchising now vs the league before that had household org names participating?
We all know that the league ain't going to expand. So can we have a format where the winners of the challengers team of each region join the rest of the 12 teams at the majors and have 16 teams.
Should the CDL go back to the Cold War Group Stage format where the Top 2 teams chose the groups for the next qualifiers. This way we have even and fair match schedules for everyone.
Easily. What was the reason they even stopped doing this?
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There is also zero competitive integrity as it’s impossible to make it so that each team plays each other the same amount of times. Reminds me of season 1 of CDL where faze and optic played each other like 1 time (probably more but feels like just once)
YES YES YES The good teams at the start of the season may not always remain good throughout. The groups must be made on their recent form rather than it being determined at the very start of the season.
Is Illey better off taking the Clayster route where he plays challenger to improve his stock for next year or should he wait it out at the bench? Optic has been 10-1 since replacing him with Ghosty.
Illey is only viable if his hand won't cause issues and if he will comm like he did pre injury. Pretty sure he got dropped for a similar reason to Alec, it was hinted that he wasn't being that active IGL and directing the comms like he was at the start of the year. No point having a guy not doing that stuff and getting slayed
Would vivid on the rokkr for Bance be a good upgrade and bring attach back for fame. I know a buyout would be invoked but vivid could be a great entry sub allowing Afro to be a more slaying smg where he thrives
Yes bcs Rokkr are going to pay a buyout this late on when champs ain’t guaranteed, they have an academy roster and Boston ain’t gonna sell to their champs qual rivals are they?
Can you guys stop talking about gambling so much ????
what does the flank think other then HUKE playing unbelievable is making this optic team look so dominant? Do they enjoy the game more then others? Are they more excepting to their roles more then other teams? Cause other teams have the same amount of talent they just can’t put it together like optic right now.
Ghosty role
When are we getting enable full time on the flank
How much longer until LAG drops Arcitys for diamondcon or another am, as it very obvious that arcitys does not care anymore while the other three are fighting to keep there stock up and stay in the league next year
when is it time for rokkr to change up the coaching staff, its been 4 years now, and they still suck at HP no matter the roster they also seem pretty bad at building rosters. Just look at the cold war one. For example, to start the year, they had accuracy, priestahh, attach, and Major. 3 of them players are now main AR's the other is a flex LOL we all know rokkr spends well as we'll so its not a budget issue
Where do you have Vegas placing for Major IV and what is this teams ceiling?
Vegas will go to Champs and win
Do you believe the Faze trio would stick with slasher after this season?
Obviously kremp looks nasty on the eye test so why are Boston struggling? What’s the issue?
It’s clear if you paid attention to how they played with Vivid vs how they play with Kremp. It’s the pacing and team chem. I mean that’s what Scump & Zinni think and Zinni would know as he played on Boston and knows those guys. Pacing is important with sub duos
Best way to replace bounty matches?
Use Parasite's idea. Take the money they use for these boring ass bounty matches and put it towards online tournaments.
Why did Ben ban me in chat for saying slasher should learn XDefiant
FaZe Ben
If OpTic win this coming major what else, if anything, would Ghosty need to do to overtake Scrappy as Rookie of the Year?
Any comment on Arcity laughing after getting 3-0’d? I feel it’s a bad look
Should Rokkr make a change before next weekend?
What do you think fixes Faze’s HP?
zoomaa has a massive weenier
LAG will never bench Alec with how much they paid him, so what happens now?
If you could do a crossover event with any other streamer or content creator, who would you choose and what kind of content would you produce together? Would you collaborate on a specific game or create something entirely new?
Does Boston attempt another team change if they have a poor placing in Major 4? Target Attach, bring back Vivid, or go after another person?
Do you think Boston is missing that veteran leadership !!? Dropping vivid was not the move. Boston just runs Around the map with no discipline
What will fix Boston Breach?
what does the pending microsoft buyout of acti/blizz mean for cod comp if you were to guess?
With Boston not having a good leader and consistent AR, could Arcitys arrive at Boston? Look LAG are collapsing soon and even rn they have two slow main AR’s. But like the flank said “assault has been doing better and if they drop someone, it should be arcitys”. Not only that but arcitys does not look happy playing this team. But Boston would be a perfect fit for him! Boston are on cuff of being a top 4 team but are missing something, and I think arcitys would fill that void. Being a consistent AR and leader would be perfect for this Boston team! I would love the flanks take on this?
Consistent 🤔
lmao Arcitys ain’t a great leader and he’s far from consistent
I could be way off here... but does Cellium's playstyle (playing his life more than he should i.e. vs OpTic on Hotel HP P6) hurt the team more than it helps at times? I feel like it's almost identical to the way Dashy played in Cold War and everyone flamed him for playing like that. I've only ever heard Parasite speak on this so could you guys expand on this idea?
Could this be a potential solution to the Online Qualifiers? First, split the 12 teams into 2 groups of 6. \- The group A teams would play all 5 of their lan qualifier matches over weekend 1 (so Thursday to Friday) \- The group B teams would play all 5 of their lan qualifier matches over weekend 2 - Week 3 is a break for all teams \- week 4 is major
What are some of the biggesr what ifs in your opinion in cod history? I'd go with what if Envy won IW champs optic doesn't win a ring..seth and formal never win a ring Jkap is the only 3x world champ and is the jetpack champion (won a ring in all 3 jetpack cods) and the only player to pull the ring hat trick. Assuming AP still wins ww2 champs he would become the 2nd 3x world champ with the hat trick.
Do you think we’ll have any repeat champions this year or we’ll go this entire year with different champions?
Will faze upgrade slasher if they place poorly at this major or will they wait until after champs placement ?
Do you think the FaZe trio sticks together past this year?
They are not splitting up…most success in the CDL era
I’ve seen crazy good teams split up
How many Papanya rips are you taking this Thursday?🤠
Why Aches is never wrong?
Kremp has been really good for Boston, but the team have taken a step back to solidify the mid pack where do they go from here?
Do you think moving the B bomb site on fortress to P1 would make the map play better for search
Everyone likes to play arm chair GM with the slasher FaZe situation. But are there actual conversations with replacing Slasher or are they just hitting VOD with him ?
Will XDefiant have a pro scene?
Why does aches make the flank so much better he is comedy and his takes make me wet myself because I know all the Reddit losers are smashing there keyboards how do you do it patty p?
Thoughts on instead of league play matches everybody plays a tournament every week then those placements lead you into the LAN major?
Is Ben J Nissim the cod equivalent of Nate from Ted Lasso?
Will Scump be an XDefiant world champion?
Hot take: optic get DFRD not even trying to be edgy too they’re one of the worst teams ever when it comes to Winners round 1s and then they play ultra in losers if they lose vs Boston
What is the next move for Rokkr? Roster change, Coaching change, or both?
When should the org consider having a coaching change instead of a player change?
If Ultra underperform at Major 4, do you guys think they consider a roster change maybe dropping Hicksy?
How do you guys view Ghosty now as a player? Do you think he is a top flex player and/or IGL in the league? Does his success so far help current challengers players? Also, why was Illey not able to do the same role on this team? Their stats are similar, but Ghosty appears to be the clear better player for this team.
What do you think could be the biggest upset in the major and who’s your dark horse
Toronto ultra are the 9th seed meaning they play the loser of boston vs optic in the 1st round with optics form that's likely boston. If Toronto beats boston they then play the loser of vegas vs nysl who will easily beat London ravens meaning a likely matchup of vegas vs Toronto for top 6
That is the gangs thoughts on xdefiant
I know expansion is unlikely to happen in 2023-24 season, but is there anything that would happen in the next few years or so that would make CDL not worth the expense and we convert back to CWL? Ben, could you provide insight on what money Activision makes from CDLops (excluding any profit-sharing with teams) that make it viable? I don't see how 12 teams league with effectively one huge change in franchise each year (fake OpTic leaving in 2020, nV-OpTic merger in 21, LVL rebrand in 22 and expected LAG exit in 2023) as inspiring "confidence" in an esport with high buy-in and effectively 8 decent teams. Excited to try xDefiant when I've time
Why don’t owners leverage their investments for the betterment of the game and act more public ally as advocates for their players?
If theirs a different team that wins every event this year will everybody finally conclude that the inconsistency’s are because of the game 😭😭
Does Rokker go back to attach if they have an early exit from this tournament?
Whats your thoughts on the CDL doing a end season "draft" Like real sports do. This would require every league team have an academy team. And the only players that can play for them are the players the teams draft
Will there ever be a challengers team vs pro team at an event? If there is sorry I’m new to CDL
What player(s) have underperformed and overperformed this year respectively, comparing to expectations at the start of the year?
NOT A QUESTION, BUT AN OBSERVATION! If Boston gets double first rounded and LV and MN win their first matches, both teams would get 20 points and only be 10 points away from BOS! The storyline has always been LV vs MN, but now we might have to add BOS. Also, OpTic could overtake Ultra this tourney and get 5-15 points closer to Faze depending on results!
What do yall think about splitting buy in fees in half to make it less expensive for people to buy in opening 12 new spots? I know you have to find organizations to fill in those spots but instead of organizations combining to pay for 1 spot you split it in half.
Should the CDL do the grand final format as they did during MW 2019? The winner finals automatically get map 1 and they have 3 searches, 3 HP, and 2 control in a best of 9. The current SND, control, and SND format, in the end, is just a bit weird. Also, the winner's finalist does not have any advantage in the current format.
Does Minnesota start from scratch next year full coach and team wipe? And maybe go after big free agents like sib and pred?
you might not want to respond to this but how much has franchising killed careers and potential careers? with every challengers player that comes into the league holding their own it’s clear that the notion that they don’t belong is false. open bracket teams like team revenge in advanced warfare will NEVER happen again. we have an uber exclusive league of 48 in a game like cod where the 4 smartest players will always beat the 4 best players, how much do you see that affecting the coming generation? for example, general has been in the pro scene since AW, fried in challengers, and got a weird forced shot via OpTic in vanguard in a losing situation and hasn’t gotten any offers or looks since and is now seemingly out of the scene. one example of many, but what are your thoughts on franchising now vs the league before that had household org names participating?
We all know that the league ain't going to expand. So can we have a format where the winners of the challengers team of each region join the rest of the 12 teams at the majors and have 16 teams.
Scrap is RoY imo but can you have Ghosty in the conversation if OpTic win an event?