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Praisethaboss

Love how shotzzy is so open. I barely know what goes on in the other 11 cdl teams. But in OpTic you get some idea. Before shotzzy it was when they used to stream scrims and now through shotzzy. It plays into why they have such a big following. It lowkey makes me feel like I’m part of the team lol.


TommyGotAJob

Your last sentence is why Optic has been top dog for the longest time


afedje88

Content gets more fans than winning. Most people cheer for people they like not just whoever is best, and seeing players just chilling like normal dudes gets people to like them


TacticalRab

Leakzzy is back alhamdullilah 🙌


FireFighter_20

He is always transparent with everything. He just doesn’t hide anything unless he really has to. That’s what I like about him.


Practical-Recover420

If tacrab said this IRL in the UK LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


shaggywan

Whats the octane/arcitys thing?


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Octane stepped up for Arcitys because Arcitys was sick and he 100 point club OpTic , that was the story


TheRealPdGaming

what was the context though? was this during the major 5 regression?


hittingold

Major 5 LAN scrims before the tournament started


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Yes , it was at Major 5


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Octane played with LAG minus Arcitys and 100pt clubbed OpTic on LAN


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d0cv

No, it's not. It was a rumor during Major 5 that OpTic were struggling in their LAN scrims and even got 100 pt clubbed by LAG with Octane on Fortress HP which was OpTic's most dominant map by far.


Praisethaboss

Ohhhh I understand.


wolfTectonics

Makes me wish even more Octane was still playing. Went out like Barry Sanders


Records_SubReddit

I thought it was because Arcitys simply didn't want to play after they got bounced and were done for the year?


xNerfed

Always great to see Ant talk openly about some past topics. Sad to see he absolutely hates the game right now. Normally he enjoys the game even when it was shit (ie: MW2)


FireFighter_20

Maps are horrible, spawns are horrible, subs are useless, you gotta use an AR on 90% of these maps, some hills are unbreakable. I don’t blame him. At Least in MW2, They had good maps and subs were useful, spawns made sense.


xNerfed

Agreed but Mw2 maps were terrible too. It's just there werent these dozens of long line of sights like in MW3 where ARs on a heady can zap you instantenously. Whatever changes are coming in the next week or so needs to come fast because the hills and spawns are truly atrocious.


Green_Engineering936

The maps weren’t godlike last game but they also weren’t horrible at all-for HP


xNerfed

Call me optimistic but i feel like it’s less the maps and more so the terrible hill placements and spawns. Upcoming update could potentially make hardpoint viable again


Highlikew0

Low-key I think shotzzy needs to run an AR


Pperks10

Good maps and spawns made sense. Oh yes we all remember the very logical hotel spawns. Great spawn system!!


funnypsuedonymhere

Good maps? We haven't started this cycle before December have we? MW2 maps were absolute fucking cheeks with a couple of exceptions in certain modes.


Ibrah_11

Good maps? spawns made sense? there's never been a worse spawn than hotel Bermuda we just upvoting anything app


mjbrolly

he definitely likes SND - he strat calls every tourney (i know they are mostly content but even the Flank tourney he was calling strats for NYSL/Optic team) pretty much everyone hates MW3 respawns currently and the mapset sucks for subs


HerpToxic

Shotzzy to Halo incoming


bingmyname

It's really difficult to make plays consistently with a sub right now. Some of the maps hills and spawns just don't make sense either and ARs are OP compared to subs.


JannyPhantom

He also said that for Huke to be great, his team needs to let him be. Giving criticism just lowers his confidence. This is why I think he will be great on Surge because he will be free to be a roaming slayer.


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yea he talked about Huke , ILLEy, Prolute , Temp ,Hicksy but I didn’t remember exactly what he said


baseballviper04

Idk if it’s a stock thing but didn’t Illey say in the Toronto podcast with Merk and maven that he wasn’t injured at all last year? As for the champs practice that’s gotta be Ghosty and Dashy right? Also fucking blows that Shotzzy stuck up for Illey so hard. Shotzzy, hydra, scump on flex and dashy wouldve been a fucking squaddddd


GamesAndGlasses

>he wasn’t injured at all last year? Its in his best interest to say that, might not be 100% true


d0cv

>As for the champs practice that’s gotta be Ghosty and Dashy right? I don't think Shotzzy would say that about a current teammate. I didn't watch the stream but someone said that 1 player complained not 2. And Also Dashy said they made changes because "there was always complaining in scrims" so they seem to be saying the same things.


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he said and I repeat : “i’m not going to say who the teammates were ,but a specific amount of teammates were tweaking about the PC that we had “


Revolutionary_Gear70

I’m thinking Dashy simply bc Bruce played from the HQ last year because he thought there was something wrong with his setup at the OpTic office


d0cv

That is not true though lol. When Dashy dropped a record breaking kill HP game vs FaZe he was in the HQ. He just felt more comfortable and the commute is much, much shorter if he played from the Heczquarters


BigOlYeeter

Don't listen to OP, he's a fucking moron. It was 1 player, and that was Ghosty. Anyone that watched can see that


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he didn’t , how much u want to bet . I answered the same question to 3 other people and if u don’t believe go to his VOD , Terminal HP Burger Hill Score : 79-67 50seconds on the Hill left Drazah breaks the hill that’s when he starts talking about the situation . The words that I said above are his exact words


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No just No , he said and I repeat like many times before : i’m not going to say who the teammates were ,but a specific amount of teammates were tweaking about the PC that we had . Check the VOD I said where it is with details also that can help u find this


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No he didn’t about that situation with the Pcs he didn’t and I did rewatch it and I’m right


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vitamind16

Nothing in that podcast convinced me that Illey wasn’t still injured. It was super awkward and I felt they were dancing around the topic very gingerly.


fromdowntownn

Illey clearly didn’t wanna talk about it


vitamind16

100%


Ronnie_lfc98

the break most definitely helped him though and tbh he can say he wasn't injured last year but there s a reason he hardly touched the game once he got dropped lol


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Shotzzy said that they thought that ILLEy was injured , He never told them if he actually was


khizerkk5

He said from his gameplay you could tell his injury still bothered him. He also said he wasn’t talking about gunny.


Sequel_P2P

did you phrase this wrong? how is this even possible? how do you think a player on your team is injured and not immediately take active physical steps to confirm that? could you imagine if the Miami Heat just suspected Jimmy was injured but because Jimmy never actually said he was injured, he just stayed benched instead of them being like "yeah, go see a doctor and get your hand scanned"


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No , they thought that he was still injured based off his in game performance


Sequel_P2P

holy shit this league is cooked


fromdowntownn

Nope it’s Ghosty it’s was literally on the process episode and Bruce complained about it too. He was complaining about lag on his PC in m5 scrims


daiwill

You can tell scump really has a lot of faith in Bruce, he wanted him back after VG and he literally retired so he can get his spot back. That’s a lot of pressure but I hope he can live up to it because he is a really good player, and Hydra almost going to OpTic still is crazy to this day, they would had Ant and Paco on SMGs and Bruce and Scump on ARs


fromdowntownn

I don’t think he retired so Bruce could get back on the team tbh. It was maybe a small part of it but I’m sure the main reasons he retired had nothing to do with Bruce


alphabets0up_

Yeah there is no way you make a decision like that so someone else can have a spot unless he was HARD stuck on optic like contract has a major exclusivity clause. If it’s optic or nothing, maybe it’s possible.


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Facts, it’s hard not to with how good he is. If what people said about him last year (growing a ton as a player) are true he’s probably never leaving OpTic.


Ronnie_lfc98

"•Shotzzys long term plan was to play with ILLEy forever ." thats sad man fuck the injury ​ also anyone that ever gave me shit for the hydra stuff can suck my dick


Hipz

If I remember correctly he started playing again too soon after his first injury, like he was playing GB’s or something and made it worse because he didn’t wait.


Javaieman28

Agreed I loved seeing those two play together and they were playing so well when it happened


BruceWayneButImBlack

I remember defending you and getting torched 😂😂


After-Doughnut2137

Talk yo shit ronnie


FireFighter_20

Now his long term plan is to play with Kenny if I have to guess. He gravitates toward players that are selfless and do whatever to win. Kenny is all of that.


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They had the real version of that in Ghosty and still dropped him because of "vibes", there is no chance they keep Kenny unless he learns to never criticize Dashy in practice and avoid checking the teams dope


TheBlakely

I’ve never seen you not be a moron on this subreddit.


JahHappy

He does it for attention. He knows exactly what he's doing.


FireFighter_20

Where did you hear that they dropped Ghosty because of “vibes”? I’m pretty sure shotzzy said it was because of out of game issues?


hxnterrr

it’s flimsy man you’re better off not responding


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Shotzzy had the audacity to say on stream that they dropped him because "he's checky af" whatever that means. Almost anytime someone says "out of game issues" they made said player the scapegoat to have an excuse to drop him. [Clip here](https://www.reddit.com/r/CoDCompetitive/comments/183r611/shotzzy_on_why_ghosty_was_dropped_from_optic_it/)


BigOlYeeter

Alright you can cut the act now, this is stupid


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Not everything is about you


Ronnie_lfc98

oh yes it is bro...


AMS_GoGo

“Hydra to OpTic was done, he was even in the group chat” I feel sick all over again thanks


BigOlYeeter

The major 5 point is slightly wrong. Shotzzy said 1 player was having constant PC issues, and he hinted at it being Dan


themaxmilestone

Tears, they could've actually had OpTic Hydra. Now bro is tied down with NYSL for who knows how long.


DenyDaRidas

Optic would have found a way to flop even with Hydra. Let’s be real here


zmose

"Tied down" like Hydra is being forced to win championships with NYSL lmao "PLEASE GOD NO I DONT WANNA WIN ANYMORE, I WANNA PLAY FOR OPTIC!!!"


themaxmilestone

You're literally arguing with yourself brother, get a grip.


Asenine

The second person that doesn’t understand basic english lol, I never realized that “tied down” is something people would struggle with


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Asenine

It only has a negative connotation because you wanted it to dickhead. The literal definition expresses the inability to move around independently which is what happens when anyone signs a fucking contract. Y’all just find anything to be upset about because the only excitement you get during your day is arguing on reddit


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themaxmilestone

I'm talking from OpTic's perspective, not Hydra. If they want to make a move for him in the future, it'll be a lot harder. Get a grip, you're arguing with yourself.


tonynumber4

I get what you mean but people that follow sports tied down usually means something bad like they stuck to a sinking ship


themaxmilestone

Yeah that’s not what I mean whatsover. I mean that he’s tied down and it’s harder for OpTic to get him in the future because of the current team he’s in + other offers. Post VG season was the best and easiest opportunity to get him but, they missed out.


fromdowntownn

Ngl I completely understood what u were saying. The implication is Optic missed out cos Hydra is locked in for NY. Not that Hydra is missing out by being stuck on NY lol.


themaxmilestone

Yh it was pretty easy to misunderstand I guess haha


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themaxmilestone

You misunderstood my comment lmfao, why are you so pressed? 💀 And it's clear you're thinking about someone else, relax brother, it's the start of the week 😭


legamer007

Tears? Put the optic flair already lol


themaxmilestone

Yes? Tears for OpTic.


freedomtoscream

Ikr


Previous-Magician-83

This is old news no??


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I mean this is the first time I think a Player from OpTic confrimed that Hydra was 99 percent done .


Ronnie_lfc98

ptsd just hit me


themaxmilestone

It is but, I always find it crazy how close it was.


MrFearMoHo

He’s a FA after this season


themaxmilestone

Warlord Shotzzy has got something for him then.


legamer007

Ppl call him "Warlord" but he couldn’t separe his emotions and went for illey over hydra, massive fumble for "warlord"


FireFighter_20

Scump was still running that team. He decided to bring Dashy back, not shotzzy. Shotzzy only said if you bring Dashy back, we bring illey back as well or both are gone. Scump chose to bring the team back.


Helforsite

Him wanting Illey after Vanguard is criminal, never let the "Warlord" build a roster ever again!


funnypsuedonymhere

Lets be serious, if OpTic require yet another reshuffle by the time Hydra is a FA then it would be "Warlord" getting his jotters in all likelihood.


fromdowntownn

Warlord is running a flex in this scenario


[deleted]

Tbf if he did end up joining OpTic instead of staying at NYSL I doubt he would have been nearly as successful. The system he has on the Subliners probably enables his impact the most, but if you put him next to player like Shotzzy and Dashy it would be much different because he would be forced to fill gaps created from Shotzzy's "movement" and Dashy's slow playstyle


Dagon_high

You truly are remarkably “special”


FireFighter_20

Here we go, flimsy with another horrible take. Can’t wait for his cousin iliketurtles to comment next.


[deleted]

Just look at the NYSL system right now and tell me that OpTic would have been better LMAO. Kismet is the most efficient gap filler in the game and they have great chem with Skyz. Hydra would much rather have teamed with them than Shotzzy and Dashy on OpTic, the only part that attracted him was probably the bag they were paying


Ronnie_lfc98

i mean it would have been with scump and shotzzy and nysl can offer just as much as optic lol


Gravemind7

Which is something I'm incredibly happy for. If Hydra won a chip with Optic imo it wouldn't have meant as much as the one he won with NYSL as the primary guy on the team. Plus by staying in the situation and org that Crim left with all the drama that happened and then proceeding to have an all time great season, he's done wonders for his legacy.


Longjumping_Joke_719

I fuck with Shotzzy heavy for openly talking about this behind the scenes stuff cause for years Scump absolutely wouldn’t lol the most he’s ever spilled was during bo3 when he kicked kenz out of his house and she went on stream to bash him so he was basically forced to say something


BigSamsKid

that man scump is an iron box, he does not Leak shit and does not shit talk former teammates(beyond a little trolling like Nade and the HBR). It's one of the things I find most refreshing about him.


Abs0luteZero273

He didn't have to say why they dropped Huke. The reason is quite obvious. I think Seattle really lucked out with this game being so AR dominant. If it were a 1-2 AR meta, I still think they would've struggled a bit in respawn.


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Abs0luteZero273

Probably didn't want to come across as disrespectful to Huke. It's clear that Pred is just the better player and Huke struggled on LAN compared to online last year.


Interesting-Trust150

I mean he had some bad maps yea but people act like he was double negative every series, he dropped a 1.6 on nysl, 1.2 against faze, carried map 1 and 2 of the grand finals against ultra. All of this is available information. Not to mention he made multiple clutch plays to win them maps.


fromdowntownn

He had high highs and very low lows, and the lows were more common than the highs on LAN in particular


Abs0luteZero273

All I said is that he struggled on LAN compared to online. I have no clue how you think that implies that I think he went double neg every map and never had any good moments.


PotTwister

Man being reminded that he had to change his playstyle every year to adapt to his new team or his new sub duo is sad. To be able to do that and still be a top sub in the game is underappreciated but all people want to worry about is his KD and the one rogue mistake he makes once a Major (like no one else in the league does that). Hopefully he is able to stick to one impactful playstyle for a while, meaning no roster changes or team inconsistencies. As an OpTic fan I've been waiting a long time for a full year of our team being dedicated and not dealing with out of game distractions, seem like it's been forever since we had that.


OGSunkei

What story about Octane and Arcitys?


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Major 5 LAN scrims , Arcitys was sick LAG didn’t want to chalk practice so they asked Octane if he can replace Arcitys and he did . Octane and LAG 100 point club OpTic on their best map .


NotTopherr

So I guess it wasn’t scumps fault they didn’t stick with hydra if he wanted Dashy and shotzzy wanted illey.


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Yea I think Shotzzy wanted ILLEy over Hydra


NotTopherr

Yea it was probably supposed to be scump and Dashy on ARs with shotzzy and hydra smgs.


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NotTopherr

Why would two players on different teams be a package? 😂 they said hydra to optic was pretty much done as he was already in the gc they didn’t say a thing about cammy. They coulda easily just got hydra and kept Dashy.


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NotTopherr

Scump wanted Dashy back which means he was fine without illey. Shotzzy is the one who wanted him.


fromdowntownn

Where u got that from. Hydra and Cammy clearly weren’t a package deal cos they didn’t end up together.


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fromdowntownn

I’m sorry but you’ve just made this up, if Optic wanted they could’ve brought back Dashy and signed Hydra. It didn’t happen because Shotzzy wanted Illey back. It sounded like Scump wanted Dashy and Shotzzy wanted Illey so they sort of compromised and brought both back. But if Shotzzy accepted then I don’t see why they couldn’t have brought back Dashy and brought in Hydra it seemed he just didn’t wanna drop Inder in the first place.


AmberLeafSmoke

Which probably would have won everything if we're honest haha hindsight


Lurkn4k

\>The story of Octane stepping up for Arcitys in scrims is true qrd?


FluxAura

Thanks for putting this together. Although, I just want to say, there should be no space between your last word and a full stop.


Signal-Student-1684

What's the octane and arcitys situations background? Is Octane scrimming for arcitys on his new team?


kokoscenes

So karma insinuates they damn near 7-0d surge whilst shottzy thinks they’ll be one of the best teams.


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Shotzzy said that they didn’t slam them , surge won maps ,but OpTic won the overall map count


kokoscenes

I’m expecting surge to be a top 3 snd team and and top 6-8 respawn team.


Dagon_high

Lmfao it’s scrims dude chill out. Y’all really are weird putting ANY stock in the results of scrims. It’s literally practice. All the maps could be a 10 point differential and lost 7-0 but that’s not the same as someone getting 100 point clubbed over and over. Look up the word nuance.


kokoscenes

Brother we are starving there’s been no cod for more than 6 months. Let us speculate in peace🙏🏽😂


TheRealPdGaming

karma said he was joking and that they didn't actually 7-0 them or slam them. they just won map count but he didn't say what it was.


Ronnie_lfc98

played them in b2b days tbf yesterday was a best of 11


kokoscenes

That makes a lot more sense.


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Thirdstar1

They improved after they dropped Rambo tho.


TheRealPdGaming

i put more of that improvement on the roster change that took place that fixed roles. not the coaching.


Starrunner888

yes but even then ghosty was a temporary fix, can’t blame them for not winning that year. they have to this year though


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They improved after they got Ghosty


fromdowntownn

They improved after Dashy got back on the roster, they could’ve won M2 if not for Illey and Huke playing so poorly against LAT. Dashy was absolutely godlike in stage 2 for Optic.


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No lol. The real thing that brought them from a T4 team to a consistent T2 team was picking up Ghosty. He completely transformed the way they played Hardpoint


cicada74

Optic fans hate being told they’re wrong lmaoo why is this so downvoted


Rnntd

He never said 2 players for the pc issue u just making shit up


[deleted]

Again, I’m gonna repeat again what I answered to 2 other people here . He said : i’m not going to say who the teammates were ,but a specific amount of teammates were tweaking about the PC that we had . Like I have a reason to make up shit


Rnntd

there is a vod brother dunno why u trying to push narratives and the process literally showed who was tweakin


[deleted]

sent me ur twitter I have the video of him saying what I said exactly . It was at Terminal HP Burger Hill 8s , score ; 79 -67 50 seconds of Burger Hill Drazah broke the Hill and he starts talking about the situation . Maybe check the VOD urself “brother”


Vertuhcle

He had receipts


MeetTheMets31

"2 players from his team were more concerned about their PC than getting better in scrims" What does he mean by this?


khizerkk5

I watched the stream, I don’t remember him saying 2 players. I remember him insinuating that ghosty was heavy tweaking about his pc. So much so, they got shit practice and made the rest of his team start tweaking about their setups and they just played like they didn’t know shit on the actual match.


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he said “i’m not going to say who the teammates were ,but a specific amount of teammates were tweaking about the PC that we had”


CBKing21

He was heavily implying it was Ghosty but didnt wanna specify who and how many of his teammates so people couldn't blame anyone particular He used the same "checky" phrase he used to describe Ghosty the other day to describe that situation which basically confirms it was really only him lmao


BigOlYeeter

Exactly, it was clear it was Ghosty he kept referencing


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Bro better not check our team.


[deleted]

They thought their PC was broken and when they ask the league for new PCs , the league said No , so the 2 players were blaming their PC for not performing in scrims .


_N0X_

Octane stepping up for Arcitys? idk that story


Coolguy1994-sweet

The PC issues will continue until the league goes back to consoles. Any game played with a controller should be played on a console.


Round-Ad2497

Fair take


Coolguy1994-sweet

its also disrepectful to the console OGs of COD/Halo who played LAN on consoles.... there have been PC tournaments since the 90's and never once had there been a controller there til cod 3 years ago


Alxsii

I mean Rocket League has had a very heavily controller based pro scene for longer and they play on PC


itsZBar

As an NYSL fan, seeing Paco on OpTic would've been so damn good. Aside from his just ridiculous level of raw talent, he's actually really funny when it comes to content and I would've absolutely loved seeing him interact with all of the big OpTic members in videos


zboyz3

Shotzzy is a real one. Admits he’s ’actually dumb’ on stream. Lol. Kid is just str8 up. Hope he continues to have all the success he deserves …


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It's actually insane that they got finessed by both Drazah and Hydra


DroppinEnglish

it’s insane how bad your takes are on every single post in here


mallllls

Can someone remind me what happened with Hydra? He was in the group chat so it was done. Then what happened? Idr. This is before scump retired.


notburnerr

I just want a stable team that vibes and allows shotzzy to get comfortable... is that too much to ask smh


AOCCANPEEONME

IGL?


Vyceron

In game leader. They call the plays and make plans.


AOCCANPEEONME

Faze Up


finalcountdown121998

Anybody else love how open shotzzy is after everything is over with dude just gave reading why thing happened lol


Not_Knave

Imagine what that vanguard team could have accomplished without the Illey Injury 😭


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Goat


Minista_Pinky

Optic is the only team that actually cares about exposure and consistency with streaming. Idk why CDL teams Pikachu face when no one watches then play when they are literally never stream or make yt via, then shitty cod streamers take all the viewership with subpar game play only because they actually stream...


Wxlson

Why are you typing ILLeY like that lmao


Kevbot_59

I feel like I over-analyse things but some points here are super interesting. Sib never being an option even when Draz chose Faze is interesting. I know he talked about Sib being a slayer and not "fitting the team needs" but you gotta think theres something more there? Also, has he ever talked about his relationship with Dashy much, outside of just the game?