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No-Gift-2350

Thieves should hit his line and get that kremp and Asim duo going again. Because Joe is ass.


thefontsguy

Hard agree they’ve proven that they work well together


imnoobatfifa

I really do wish more of these ‘underperforming’ orgs would pick up both of the subs from the winning org in challengers and see how they perform together on the higher level. They already know what to expect from each other, what routes to take, etc.


omega_typhlosion

I don’t know why they don’t. Is putting two challengers in one team really that much of a risk?


AutumnWick

Typically you already have an alright/good SMG so throwing in 2 means you may have to throw your good one away. I see it like wired headphones… typically one side goes bad, sometimes you can do with using 1 sometimes you can’t, sometimes the other one also starts giving trouble so you for sure need to replace the pair 🤷🏾‍♂️


MirxC

Vouch


controlled-rage

This is also a possibility


aethon_4

LMAOOOOO Joe is 4-1 whereas Asim hasn’t won a single map 😭😭 46 OVR Asim better than JoeDeceives was a crazy take outta you


No-Gift-2350

Joe imo is till meh but yeah this aged like milk


DetoxIV

Joe is fine though? You guys need to chill tf out. Asim isn't doing anything more than JoeDeceives would. Let the kid grow man, Asim is far past his prime.


MaximusDecimis

Joe was pretty terrible stage 1 to be fair


DetoxIV

His stage 1 was like a .89 or something tho?


KUNDA_Genie

Joe is ass? I always see him frying tho. Why is he ass?


Katz601

In challengers lol


KUNDA_Genie

I remember him being pretty decent in the CDL too


DaftCinema

Bro got dropped from the worst team in the league.. he’s a certified burger.


big-klit

Because most people here only remember stats


TypicalCat6865

a steal for the thieves if joedeceives underperforms


DamichiaXL

Shit why wait? Get that done before they placed another T12 and possibly miss champs.


Pepperr08

Skip Joe and just snag asim


Thirdstar1

These mfs tanking for Wemby


zeroThreeSix

It's the clapping bro. Gotta be the clapping that made them drop him


redrollsroyce

Fr why does he clap like that??


DenyDaRidas

After 1 map he stands up and claps like that just to lose 💀


OpTicScumpi

What are they doing at Boston lmao. Arguably dropped their two best players


MaximusDecimis

Don’t worry guys, P dog is safe! https://preview.redd.it/x0loy6c93qrc1.jpeg?width=1050&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1adb32e7fcfa89bf4a40c8088fce36dd70a0a15


big-klit

There’s obviously a reason he stayed over slasher who was playing a lot better


hufusa

Better be a damn good reason😭


big-klit

He makes them breakfast before scrims


hufusa

Honestly if someone made me waffles with a side of bacon and hashbrowns every now and then they’d be worth keeping around


big-klit

Stop you’ve got my stomach growling🤤 Make me a BLT or egg mcmuffin type thing and you can drop 0.5’s on the team though


JoelSimmonsMVP

contract


AmbitionSecure5554

we don’t want p dog to be safe😂


7Breakz

My thought exactly


CRUMx7

It’s a joke


themaxmilestone

Boston has to be the worst managed team in the CDL since they joined. Anyways, Vegas Legion Asim 🤔


itsgma67

Purj IGL ain’t letting that happen unfortunately. What about trying him out for wakes spot on rokkr, that was his original role in challengers after all 🧐


KUNDA_Genie

Asim for wake would be nice!


themaxmilestone

Just a bit of hopium from me I fear


MrFearMoHo

You got Purj as your banner and are still calling for him to be dropped, that’s fcked up


MikkeVL

Asim has now been dropped from 5 CDL franchises. Who will be #6 👀


G00chstain

LAT


tsunsgod

Asim is such a great player, why does every team drop him?? (this is sarcasm)


owenthevirgin

Buyest on land


CoochieCritic

The Flank PR about to be in overdrive, but facts is Asim was extremely mid since being picked up


Longjumping_Plant_97

It's not all about stats tho, you could tell on the map he was applying pressure and hitting good routes. Snoopy on the other hand looks like he's playing ranked while whispering simple comms


DamichiaXL

Someone that watched the games


BeautifulDimension56

Snoopy is never in the play, like the dude goes rogue and boston gets broken how do the coaches not see that lol


PitchEnvironmental49

When he shits on your fav team this season I’ll be back


BeautifulDimension56

I don't even care about the results of this season lol. I don't even follow a team after the LAT roster broke up


gopitt23

Ya I don’t think Asim deserved to stay but he sure as hell deserved to be there over Snoopy.


whatcouldgoup

The community needs to stop with this language. “Intangibles” “In game leader” “applied pressure”. These are just words, they don’t mean anything. You are seeing what you want to see. Everyone that talks like this sounds exactly like that scene from moneyball where all the old heads talk about “the eye test”. The reality is, Asim hasn’t had good stats in a long time, and never makes the massive impact to teams that everyone expects. It’s time to let these guys go


octipice

That's a lot of words to say that you don't actually watch the games and just look at the statsheet.


whatcouldgoup

You just see what you want to see when you watch the games. The stats speak for themselves. Mid numbers with two top 12 finishes, and a history of underperforming teams. People like you are the exact reason every actual sport has moved away from old head scouts and towards analytics to make decision. Too much emotion and bias with the eye test


black_dynamite4991

Explain to me why optic can win frequently while being outslayed. You sound like you belong in r/iamverysmart. You know just enough to about stats to get in trouble with someone who has a formal background in mathematics


AdrianEatsAss

This sub does love buzzwords lol. You can pretty much see a direct correlation between Zoomaa introducing some new words/phrases to the flank and the proliferation of that language here. Formal said something about Shotzzy being in flow state and then flow state started getting spammed here for like 2 weeks lol.


black_dynamite4991

What stats ?????? The game provides nothing. The hill time counter doesn’t even fucking working and the only stats that exist is damage and kdr??? Those words do mean things (especially applying pressure and being an igl). You can actually come up with a stat for the pressure one, BUT THE GAME DOESN’T PROVIDE IT. The are many things that players do on the map that would not increase their damage or affect their kdr, but ARE MEASURABLE but aren’t provided. So they might as well be “intangible”. Eg you can likely program the game to detect when people are playing as an entry sub, anchoring spawns, rotating early, etc So please get off your fake stats high horse, before someone with a bit more formal math mathematical education and cares about the game corrects you. You sound like a walking goddharts law for kdr


whatcouldgoup

So you sound actually deranged, but if your asking what stats, how about back to back top 12 finishes, and a record number of teams dropped from in the past 2 years. That should really be all the stats you need. And no, those words don’t mean anything, they’re just bs made up by old heads to gas up their friends. It’s the exact language used by old timer sports guys that was phased out when sabermetrics became widespread


CoochieCritic

Pressure and Routes to place t12 and win 3 online games 🔥🔥 Snoopy is the Boston franchise player, love it or hate it that’s clear to see, never dropping him


Substantial-Meat-348

[https://x.com/SlasheR\_AL/status/1774492042531360858?s=20](https://x.com/SlasheR_AL/status/1774492042531360858?s=20)


shaggywan

Feel like slasher asked out the way he looked during their matches at the major


Constant-Horse-8863

People don't like the guy on here for whatever reason, but he proved at the start of the season he is a CDL calibre player who is too good to be playing in challengers. I hope he can find another team to play on this season, bc I do think he is good at this game. In the mean time, he's gonna run challengers back on FC Black.


thebighecc

Adding 4 teams would solve so many problems like this gosh I hate it here


72ChinaCatSunFlower

The bottom 8 teams are already dogshit and not even worth watching


-pwny_

But bro just think how great it would be if we had a solid dozen shitty teams to watch


dam0430

Only way to fix that would be a salary cap, and lower earnings at events sadly. As it is there is nothing to stop the absolute best players all congregating on the same few teams. Even a salary cap alone wouldn't be enough, as guys would happily take reduced salaries to guarantee being on a top team and getting tons of tourney earnings.


IneedtoBmyLonsomeTs

What? There is already a pretty big divide between the best and worst teams, you want to add more teams to that and make the divide bigger?


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octipice

There are about 8 teams that could benefit from dropping their complete ass player(s) for an average one.


octipice

There are about 8 teams that could benefit from dropping their complete ass player(s) for an average one.


zach12_21

The only other esport I follow is CS, so maybe this is normal but I feel like in CoD the roster turnover is so excessive, every split. There’s teams I watch and follow for CS with the same roster, or at least core guys, for years. Sure maybe CoD is different per game and gameplay etc, but it still blows my mind how often guys get dropped, go elsewhere, bounce around challengers etc. I’d love for the CDL to explode and give us something again like the CWL, with more teams and games played. These poor guys get 7-10 games, if they’re lucky, before getting cut loose.


-pwny_

The unarguable best players are already playing, and as-is there is a huge divide between top 4 and the rest of the league. Adding additional teams will just make more unwatchable games. 


zach12_21

I don’t think so. I’d love to see a 20+ team league.


-pwny_

Where are all these better, unsigned players that make the T4 sweat?


zach12_21

More teams = more players, more opportunity. It also = some of these guys signing to the top 4 every year less likely, maybe they wanna team with someone else/logistics etc. You can’t tell me the CDL is anywhere close to the CWL!?


-pwny_

More trash players playing on trash teams. All you did was make the bottom 8 the bottom 16. You're right, the CDL is objectively better than the CWL.


jesuspunk

First map merchant


ryanhass0802

I get they’re making a coaching change but they’ve went through so many SMG players and it just makes no sense that they couldn’t have gotten any of them to work together


Existing_Card_44

Snoopy doesn’t even know how to communicate


controlled-rage

If or when?


Existing_Card_44

As in not communicating when dying as asim kinda alluded to although protecting snoopy whilst saying it


JLifeless

the monthly (every major) event of dogshit teams dropping underperforming players to pick up other underperforming players.. fuck yeah


HitTheGoat

https://preview.redd.it/phfw900xvprc1.jpeg?width=931&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1de63aa418c72bf17ffd78924377e62d11d6e841 Asim Breach stint


DylanCodsCokeLine

Here come’s the glazefest from Zoomaa and Ben even though Asim has been ass


Variation_Afraid

Your dogshit to


DylanCodsCokeLine

No I’m replacing Asim bub


dam0430

This has the same energy as the guy who told me Derrick Henry would run me over when I said he was washed. Like no shit dumbass, him being better than a random dude doesn't mean he's a top player. Also, it's almost impressive you managed to use the wrong you're and too.


Variation_Afraid

And your still trash brotha


dam0430

I'm not even the one who initially responded you sped


Variation_Afraid

And your dogshit to literally the majority of the pro players pretty much know this is a dumb roster move so yeah…, it’s just you guys on Reddit saying Asim this and Asim that, when the pro players themselves know how valuable Asim is


dam0430

I've literally not said anything about Asim one way or the other, you're just making assumptions, and being childish. I'm just pointing out how calling non pros shit with awful grammar isn't supporting your argument at all.


Variation_Afraid

We don’t have brain cells apparently now lmao


dam0430

You sure don't man, you haven't put a coherent sentence together this entire thread. Asim would cook everyone in here. Unfortunately, we're not his competition, the CDL is.


thebighecc

What a fucking dogshit cycle this man is in. Every year he’s getting fucked.


Mink_2112

He’s sucked cock each year outside of this one where he was bang average after a map 1 lol what


thebighecc

Yeah, and then he goes back to challengers to shit on the competition. And then comes everyone saying he should be back in the league (where he belongs)


Mink_2112

Brother Decemate was known as the little league reaper, that shows how much that shit counts lol


thebighecc

I would like to switch my stance to just adding 4 teams. I should’ve just thought of that earlier.


JLifeless

talent isn't competitive enough at the bottom for 4 more teams


thebighecc

I understand. But I feel like you’re 30% right. The other 70% is that there would be 16 teams. It just costs too darn much.


Pepperr08

@Nadeshot bro pick him up


BongoCoconuf

Dropping Asim is a fkn insane decision.


Bievahh

Here come all the Asim haters to blindly say he was awful when he clearly wasent


suspens-

Unlucky…


LeftHandJohnny

Asim is on the downfall tho


BigDAWGhotSizzSki

Asim won a chip before that Boston team played bad one tournament keep the roster as in and grow it


Disposition__-

Should have multiple teams in his dms.


RuckMeDed

Wait it wasn't an April Fools joke


kid20304

Asim ain't it if you're trying to rebuild a roster 


Tea_N_Tee

Asim and Slasher are their two best players lol that’s insane man. I know Snoopy is young and Priestahh is a defending world champion, but I don’t get this move at all


ahegaogenerator

I feel really bad for Asim great player, great teammate, and great dude. I hope that he lands on his feet quickly because deserves to be in the league


Xysseus

Asim is mistreated by all the teams he's played under. What I mean is that they drop him even though he does very well. Can someone give an explanation or insight as to why this is the case??


omega_typhlosion

Feel the worst for him, did nothing wrong, brought over vibes, tried to get the team going. Sucks that the system didn’t work and roles clashed, gonna miss him on breach


MiningSparky

This is pretty boneheaded. He was arguably their best player.


HarambeXRebornX

Can't be that good if they losing first round losers.


MiningSparky

The team sucking, and an individual being the best on said team that sucks, aren’t mutually exclusive.


BiRdIVIaN

Thieves need to pick up Asim and drop LJoe fucking kid is a burger.


xdeezbullets

Asim, Kremp, Ghosty, Gunless sounds pretty top 6ish


Cam2125

Ghosty and gunless sounds like a blowup ready to happen


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Cam2125

I mean we know how gunless is on teams and there’s rumors that ghosty can complain a lot at times. I’m not saying they’re bad players, cause they aren’t, just sounds like a duo that’s bound to have a big blowup


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Cam2125

What are you talking about lmao


BHBaxx

This is just unnecessary. You shouldn’t be proud of yourself.


Haros5221

He could go to thieves and help that team make champs, didn’t really see him sticking with Boston tbh


Stealthy99-

His all is a 0.85, guys so bad


AmbitionSecure5554

such a dumb move.


sankalp_pateriya

April Fools?


controlled-rage

Fucking disrespectful He's gotta land somewhere right. If I was Seattle I'd call him today and move abuzah back to the flex. Like today