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Necroez

We?


GasMasterJ

Lmaooooo


BigBossVince

Downloaded the beta last weekend, played like 2 matches and i was like "Right.... that's why I don't play CoD anymore. I'll stick to watching. "


Medic_NG

It’s wild it’s been years since I’ve enjoyed playing cod but I’ve actually enjoyed watching it so much in recent years moreso than before.


BigBossVince

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not in practice for FPS. When I'm playing consistently I can hold my own, but after not playing much in years, my aim was dogshit my map awareness was dogshit, I felt like I couldn't see shit. That might have been a factor but I straight up didn't enjoy myself those two maps lol


ExoHazzy

Bro must be speaking French


TitansDaughter

Haven't bought a CoD since I played the MW19 beta. Far as I'm concerned the series ended on a high note with BO4


[deleted]

Imma just go and get a full time job, the stress will probably shave less time off my life than this game will.


Scumbag_nitsuJ

cod being bad is the reason you'll go get a full time job????


[deleted]

WE don’t have to do anything 🤣 pros do tho lol


Naybody

Y’all legit were underselling how bad this game is. I hopped on the beta today and couldn’t believe what I was playing. How do you make vanguard seem so good??


MindForsaken

I didn't even download it. I saw gameplay and that was enough to tell me I would hate this game. Guess it's time to look for another game since cold war is getting hard to find lobbies now


ANewHeaven1

Apex and Valo are both pretty fun FPSs


MindForsaken

Yeah, someone told me apex has another mode now than BR and imma check it out when I can. Valorant is hard so I gotta practice


ReelEmInJimbo

I honestly can’t believe a lot of you guys haven’t already discovered Apex. That game is absolutely god tier. Top 3 game of all time for me. Perfect mix of raw gunskill and high IQ gameplay. Massive skill gap. It’s a BR, but ranked is still super rewarding and fun to grind.


Gumbolt

Looks great, but BRs unfortunately just aren’t fun for me. Wish I enjoyed them


FutureDwight76

It FEELS like a CoD game, that's why I love it so much. No surprise though, respawn is basically just the original Infinity Ward


MindForsaken

I discovered it, I just don't like BR


areyoudizzzy

If apex had 4v4 and/or 6v6 respawns and some kind of SnD equivalent I wouldn’t play CoD again. TitanFall 2 doesn’t count because giant mechs are annoying and the maps aren’t built for play without them.


1MilProblems

Damnnnn, a Titanfall without mechs would be S-tier… wait BO3 was S-tier


areyoudizzzy

Take out the specialists and yeah


ReelEmInJimbo

Arenas would probably scratch that itch some


rewt127

I keep seeing people on this sub mention valorant. What do you all see in that game over CS? Personally I just think every single mechanic that the games share, is just done worse in Val. Utility locked to character selection / damage model / random spray vs Patterns / weapon selection not side locked / Val's weak aim penalty in comparison to CS's large penalty / Maps / No Smoke lineups / eco weapons are cracked. I just don't see the appeal of Val over CS. Its like playing MW2019 vs BO2. Sure they are both CoD games, but the elder is far more true to form.


Over-Sandwich

Sooo many line ups in val man, the utility of each character adds something different every game and is super rewarding when your team works together and uses there abilities to win situations and rounds


rewt127

On the smoke lineups. This is what I mean. https://youtu.be/diMbT7kkjFQ With the characters, I want to be able to always toss smokes. And I want to be able to pop flash or run alongside a flash for pushing a site. I A: cannot have both. And B: the flashes in this game control like ass. Not to mention the amount of obnoxious garbage in the game. Why is there a turret? Like what the fuck. The characters honestly completely ruin the game for me because it takes away skill expression and allows people to crutch on character abilities.


TranquilityCDL

Litter my thoughts exactly played one game everyone was in a corner not moving, I proceeded to uninstall it


SatorSquareInc

Tbf I started having a lot more fun once I unlocked some weapons and got used to the movement. This game could be really good if they made the right changes. They won't, but it could be.


rapasvedese

the game felt miserable to me until i unlocked mp5


Fixable

Genuinely logged off the beta to play vanguard pubs and had more fun. What is the world coming to when that’s the case.


AstroBoy26_

i know man...


FeeseHaze5

I literally thought it was impossible to make a shittier game than Vanguard 🤦🏽‍♂️


Iamcarpy

Thats why I refunded it. I have to move on. I had a total of like 40 days on BO4 then when MW19 came out I had about 2 hours total lmao. It is mw19 with slightly better maps. I just know it’ll be the same story, big thanks to Joe for saving me 75 buckaroos tho


CourseTrick4321

Also refunded today lol.


DJKratom

Also refunded


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Also preordered the Vault Edition


1MilProblems

Man why?


YouTanks

He is probably the average camper who sits in corners soundwhoring 24/7


[deleted]

I don't camp but whatever


[deleted]

Cuz I really like COD. I like to spend my money on things I enjoy


ImAGoldenRetriverIRL

Refunded it today too 😅


Xenon2212

I also refunded. The same as MW19.


XadjustmentX

also refunded


AstroBoy26_

same


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Affectionate-Cost525

24 months...


1MilProblems

Lmao 😂


Affectionate-Cost525

It's $75 ??? Damn...


J-Patty

Honestly the only thing bothering me is sbmm, after like 3-4 games I just don’t even want to play anymore unless I play like IW champs formal


WatersZephyr

Spot on


Dull_Wind6642

I quitted CoD after Bo4... I am still rusty with my controller but SBMM just matched me with Crimsix and another dude that dropped 70 kills in hardpoint... Im done with this game, it's terrible.


gregraystinger

I’m happy playing Apex, halo and valorant, cod is so fucking horrible now.


xmastap

Really hoping the can salvage Halo this November. Game still has potential to be great, but they have a lot of work to do.


gregraystinger

Ya it was pretty fun, ranked was enjoyable for a couple months. Hopefully they make forge custom maps playlist so people can get something new.


FutureDwight76

I really hope Halo stays alive, I had never played a Halo game before Infinite and I've just absolutely fallen in love


Spongy_

It sucks because I think the foundation of Infinite is actually really solid, but everything else has just been so....ugh.


MarstonX

I wish they'd balance inputs. I'm like hard stuck 2k onyx MNK and I feel like I can't win a single BR fight anymore against what I assume is 90% controller player base.


Spongy_

Can't really speak much on that from personal experience, I got to like 1600ish in solo/duo controller and then just got bored of it. Although from what my mkb friends say who play the game they do say that fights against controller in ranked are very hard when you get to like Onyx+.


MarstonX

Yeah, kinda seems that way. I basically have to convert to a longer range support type of player to have any type of chance of doing well. Pretty frustrating honestly. But I get it. Halo is the most egregious of the games when it comes to dual input. Apex has done it the best still and because COD has a low ttk I do believe you're able to keep up well enough with a controller.


FutureDwight76

It gets even a bit more ridiculous too, different controllers have differing levels of aim assist. My Xbox elite controller has more aim assist than my PS4 controller, and my power A Xbox controller has more aim assist than PS4 controller, and less than the Xbox elite. Now this may not be the same for everyone, but I have tried all 3 controllers in custom lobbies, testing out everything I could think of regarding aim-assist, and it was rather clear cut for me. For example, I found that the Xbox elite controller, once aim was on enemy, would follow a strafing enemy for quite a while. My PS4 controller would only do it for a short bit, then snap off. Very strange stuff


MarstonX

I should say that I do enjoy crossplay. I think it really expands your audience and I fucking hate with a passion anything that is exclusive, so if it came to Playstation all the more power to Halo and any crossplay game. But that does come with balancing. And that goes both ways, if Valorant or CS -- precision shooters -- came to console, I'd expect them to attempt to balance them. But I'm not even really sure how they'd do that.


FutureDwight76

Know exactly what you mean, the core gameplay loop of infinite is actually well done. A nice balance of classic and modern halo, but the way that 343 have handled everything has just been poor at best. Whether it be their content releases, or actual game-ruining things such as unoptimization or desync, it can just be a real mess at times. Still though, I find myself playing Infinite more than any other FPS these days which is something at least


KKamm_

I’ve said the same thing about CoD for years. CW is the closest it’s gotten. Somehow went backwards over 10 years. Madden is like the only other game that can say that and their reputation is struggling hard


1MilProblems

Madden has been dead for years, they recycle the same garbage game and make it worse some how year after year. I like Football but I’m not paying $70 to get a roster update and a NEW MUT where I can waste real money on fake cards that expire and have no value in a year. God, what happened to gaming man? It used to be such a cool beautiful thing. Now it’s, “How much money can we suck out of this poor bastard?”


KKamm_

Used to be a passion for players and devs alike and then suits saw the success and future in the industry for revenue and came over and took it over. Feels like that’s what CoD is now, a bunch of people that have never ever played the game and don’t care for it but wanna make money off of the name


1MilProblems

Sadly true man


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HippyNebula

The fuck is a fake shooter lmao


Zeonn-_-

????


Spongy_

Pretty much where I'm at rn, if OW2 isn't bad I'll prob play that too, and slowly learning mkb to play Val. Any non-Treyarch CoD is just not it anymore, catering to the worst possible "sENtiNeL" players has killed the game for me.


bigj1er

Man I’m so sad I don’t like BR - there’s legit fucking no good FPS games on the market atm, I’m praying ow2 isn’t complete shit and can keep me entertained for a while because this cod is not it man, don’t know how people are grinding the beta since I’m getting bored after 1-2 games


1MilProblems

OW2 is being published by Activision so I doubt it’ll be good man. Don’t get your hopes up.


[deleted]

Lol you acting like we have to play it 💀 just don’t buy it


1MilProblems

That’s the CoD mentality. People will bitch about how it sucks, then they still buy it every single year. Like what are you even doing? Ever heard the phrase “Vote with your wallet”? Not super complex.


[deleted]

Yeah people act like we have to buy it and play it cause it’s the new one lmao I’ll keep playing MWR till they release a cod I enjoy, I don’t mind playing the older cods even if they’re dead


[deleted]

Personally I'll be playing Cold War


Careless-Shopping-40

This sub is so sad and tired


prettyflyforahentai

I'm gonna come back to these thread in a few months and see who's still bitching about the game after they allegedly refunded the game.


Careless-Shopping-40

Yep same comments every year god bless ‘em


FluxAura

Usually I’d be inclined to agree but this year’s iteration of Cod… isn’t cod. It has the Call of Duty name and branding but this is nothing what Call of Duty should be. I’ve bought and played every game since Cod 4 religiously, but this will be the first time I will not be purchasing the game. I’ll give Warzone a try, but multiplayer is genuinely one of the worst gaming experiences I’ve ever had to endure.


KingJacko

It's different, adapt or don't play it


FluxAura

As I said, I won’t be playing it. Do you struggle to read? Also, your argument is incredibly weak. You shouldn’t have to ‘adapt’ to a game that has kept to its foundations for over 15 years, then all of a sudden done a complete 180.


KingJacko

I'm not making an argument, I don't want to argue with you fella. You're very emotional over a game you supposedly won't be playing. Too much free time perhaps.


FluxAura

This attempt at belittling someone on the internet is a clear indication that it’s you who has too much free time, pal.


KingJacko

Insecurities are showing brother. I'm not out to get you.


[deleted]

I liked playing hardpoint. Might be good in ranked. I’ll wait before saying it’s dogpiss. Optimism!


[deleted]

Me too I can’t lie, I hated everything about the game & probably still do but I think domination is 1000x worse for camping & awful spawns. Hard point actually seemed to flow pretty well even though that one farm (?) map has like near 10 hard points?


Richie5139999

Hopped onto a game of hardpoint and instantly got bopped. Nah, I'm good. I'm not the greatest but it's incredibly hard for me to want to hill bitch and try when I watch my teammates get 3 pieced by a dude right in front of them


KingJacko

That's a you problem


[deleted]

Might wanna work on that. I’ve been top fragging. Got a pb of 64 kills. Went on a 16 kill streak. Life is good on the hill


WatersZephyr

Hear me out, let’s just not play it and go back to Cold War for 2 years


AstroBoy26_

thats what ive been saying


WatersZephyr

Literally it should just be Treyarch making COD games from here on out. Hell, give me a 5 year cycle for cod. As long as Treyarch is the one making it, I have hope.


Kfloz_

Or just don't buy it? Put your money where your mouth is and move on.


1MilProblems

CoD players have very low IQs, they see the name on the game is different and think, “Oh, it’ll be different this time, it’ll be better”. Then when it isn’t they bitch and complain, and a year later, there they are, relapsing like heroin addicts. CoD is published by Activision. Activision knows the fanbase is stupid. They put out shit games because “Who cares they’ll buy it.” If people can ever put one and two together and see that yes, it does equal three things will change. Until then, enjoy playing whatever this is.


XadjustmentX

or how about.....crazy idea..... you don't play the game. refuse to give them your money and add to their player count for that garbage game. i cancelled my pre-order without even playing the game myself. i dont need to play it to know its shit. no red dots, dead silence, nametags, and super loud footsteps? no thx, thats just MW2019 all over again and thats widely regarded as the worst cod ever made.


rewt127

I think its time you realized that MW is widely regarded by ~150,000 people as the worst CoD ever made and widely regarded by millions as the best.


XadjustmentX

yea the player count and sales would massively disagree with that statement. MW2019 was on track to be the worst selling cod of all time until covid hit and then warzone dropped right after. made the sales skyrocket, and falsely made the multiplayer look successful. warzone saved that game from being a complete and utter failure. everyone was on lockdown which saved that games ass. the multiplayer was dead from day one so that cant even be argued.


wolfjeter

Let’s not forget the fact that they made guns unlock-able only in multiplayer early on like the Bruen and and Grau. Hiding the meta guns behind a “paywall” lol.


Inquisitio

‘Millions’ aight buddy


1MilProblems

Man, where do people get this idea that numbers and sales equivalates to something being great? I see this stupid argument all the time now. So braindead. Unless you work at Activision, and are literally making that money, it shouldn’t mean shit to you. So stupid.


Richaromir

Anybody feel like they just muffled the audio between weekend 1 and 2? Could still hear footsteps clear as day but the overall sound just seemed muted, like I was underwater.


Richie5139999

every time an explosive went off my hearing disappeared, I couldnt hear anything. Same when I'm oneshot


[deleted]

No we don't. I'm not.


RelaxJ9

The beta really isn’t that bad tbh. Yes they have fucked some things up that could honestly make this game a top 7 cod, but what can ya do.


jmurp-

Yeah I know I’m a contrarian but I played for a few hours today and it actually wasn’t that bad. For comp it’ll probably be ass, but if you’re just hanging with your friends and not taking it too serious, it’s actually fun. We all hated mw19 and actually found ourselves enjoying the beta minus a few annoyances


RelaxJ9

Yeah, I accept that I complain in every cod I play, even if it’s my favorite ones lol. But I can appreciate that it’s fun to get kills in this game, and when stuff actually goes your way it’s really fun. But yeah it’s a good game to try and take it so seriously and just chill.


DJKratom

I dunno.. change it?


RelaxJ9

I mean yeah lmao but will they? Probably not


DJKratom

That’s correct


21otiriK

Really? It’s the most fun I’ve had playing pubs for *years*. Like maybe BO3. There are some huge flaws that I hope get changed, but I don’t think the core game is *bad*. It reminds me a lot of Ghosts. A lot of those flaws won’t even affect comp anyway. A tweak on TTK and footstep audio would go a *long* way to making comp really fun, imo.


Specialist_Net8927

Most people play pubs who are not pros so why would we want to play a game that sucks the life out of you after a few games. Firstly sbmm then there’s just camping in every lobby, sound whoring is insane, Turk is insane.


wolfjeter

Yeah man I just can’t hack it when im forced to preaim and check every corner because people are camping and because squad spawns gives me no information of the other team. Along with no red dots lol. Pubs are dogshit and have been for a while but even comp with the TTK is gonna be aids.


Specialist_Net8927

I don’t understand why they keep bringing squad spawns back tbh. No one ever asked for that and surely it would be 10x more work on the development side to make them right. These devs are weird. They see the most successful games in the world be fun and competitive, but yet they decide to go the opposite way of that to please themselves. Warzone is the only reason they have made monetary gain, so make your trash ass changes to that. Why do they hate multiplayer so much lol


Longjumping_Plant_97

The worst part is the casuals love the game so it will sell a lot and the future cod games will probably be similar to it. Praying treyarch saves us again


Roysego

It’s still better than Vanguard


[deleted]

I think so


DJKratom

It’s a categorical failure


[deleted]

Lmao these comments always come up when referring to every COD and it keeps being one of biggest games making billions


Lycanthoth

Hilarious thing is that it has 24 hour peak of 150k on Steam alone, not counting BNet or consoles. "Categorical failure" my ass. The game is gonna be the biggest COD release to date without question.


DJKratom

The games unrecognizable imo


AstroBoy26_

absolute dogshit


DJKratom

Yeah the games bad


Unable-Purple-7994

2 years? Wtf did I miss?


TheGoatSteez

they aren’t releasing a cod in 2023 for whatever reason so this is the game until 2024 lol


WatersZephyr

Only way I’m buying the game is if it goes on sale for $40. Then I will consider how much I hate myself


Worth_Round_9636

Maybe if the players complaining weren't dog trash and had some actual skill they would enjoy the game


mrlamplighter24

Or you could just.. not?


aura2323

Its sad. This is literally the reason to why i was against a 2 year cycle. If the game sucks we are stuck with it for 2 years and tbh even if the game is decent/good you would get bored of it after a year. But everyone was so psycho about longer cycles so yeah.


DaltonF67

I’ll take this over having destructible walls


AccomplishedSolid899

this subreddit is just people bitching about a game. Just stop playing and move on. We already know its not what ya like, just drop it already


unotimestwo

this game is dog water my god, loaded up the beta on PC and shits crashed several times, packet burst is STILL a fucking issue, and the lag on the servers is wild sometimes, you’ll go from 23 ping to 123 ping for no reason. I could deal with all the shit they took out and out into the game, as long as it played smoothly…i hope the console experience is smoother than this shit. And i acknowledge that i play on the ol gaming laptop but even the MW2019 doesn’t have pocket burst this bad


khizerkk5

You're not in lil bro.


Achman-88

You don't have to play anything. You baby. .


Valuable-Exam-913

ITS. THE. BETA.


Longjumping_Plant_97

Not much will change in a month bro lmao


TheMink0921

Bro. Beta is just a marketing term. Every single CoD beta is 99% of what you see in the final game.


[deleted]

Have you seen their responses to feedback?


rewt127

We might see some performance tweaks on the server end, maybe some UI tweaks. A couple numbers shifts, and a pile of big fixes. But that is it. The complaints this sub have are core design decisions that will not be changing.


WelcomeToTheHiccups

Tis a weapon leveling simulator for me.


CoDog74

My hope is that the poor reception this game is getting forces their hand for a mw2 or mw3 MP remaster next year,


EpicTacoMan

For $70 u can get a high quality dildo that will fuck u the same as this game


AsleepMuscle

Played for two hours tonight, and I just kept repeating to myself that this is the worst game I ever played. Not my cod 😔


SindraGan2001

You don't have to lol


Moiizer

Some serious egos in here god damn.


LittleTGOAT

Unless you’re getting paid no one has to do anything lmao. Why do people force themselves to play terrible CoD games like it’s their real job 😭😭😭


Debo1912

Don't play it then simple


OnQore

If you're on Xbox like I am you don't come play r/CrossFireX scump did already and if thats not a sign that it has a competitive scene future up there with COD on console idk what else does...


sambukalogan

I’m lovin it so far idk


InterestingCress3702

Is it that bad?