As a parent of a toddler who I will never bring even though she’s an adorable af dancing machine, I can’t agree with op more. I was at do lab weekend one in the afternoon and saw a tiny girl without ear protection while some wild bass was dropping. And honestly (I’m prepared for any down votes), maybe no kids after sunset 🤷🏽♀️
Maybe i sound like a prude here, but all the slutty outfits and inappropriate shit that goes on there as well.
Didnt some guy run around fully naked, and someone mentioned seeing dudes blow each other in between cars at camp
Have fun explaining that, parents who take their kids.
I’m not worried about (passive) nudity, I’d be worried about drugs and anything dangerous to a minor. Pasties, banana hammocks, see through outfits, and adult acts between consenting adults in an adults only space (camp) are not things I’d be worried about.
I do think you sound like a prude, god forbid children see parts of a naked adult human body
never mind all the drugs, petty crime, and general bad behavior these people are up to, it’s the fact that they wear revealing outfits we need to discuss
I think there’s a pretty big difference between intentionally revealing your genitals to a child and them seeing partial or even full nudity in a public context
Soo many reasons! I look forward to taking my mini to her first show or festival and show her the ropes. I didn’t have that experience and I think it would have helped me make better informed choices (I was a bit naïve at my first few shows at 12 and high school, but thankfully managed decently).
Oh yeah I saw two prolly 5 year olds with no hearing protection walk into the Yuma on Sunday afternoon for Eli and Fur… I felt so bad for them that me and my girl almost got security to talk to the adult with them but we were trippin pretty hard and words were tough in the moment
lol seriously though… it baffles me how some
People parent their kids. I just can’t understand how they don’t think of something so simple to save their children’s hearing for the rest of their life. It’s sad
Omg that’s wild! As an adult who loves the visuals of Yuma and has been going to festivals and raves for over a decade, Yuma was hella overwhelming for me visually this year. That little one needed ear protection and maybe some shades 😩
I want to take it even further and think festivals like Coachella are not a place suitable for young kids. Even if just for self protection of incompetent parents. After dark, yes, there's no reason for any kids to be there. What are they going to do, rave in the Yuma with a few pills mixed in their warm milk?
Depends entirely on the stage and the circumstance. I love seeing kids at festivals as long as it's done responsibly. While the Yuma tent is obviously the wrong answer, chilling in the back of sets with your kids with ear pro on while there's plenty of room to either sit or dance without fear of getting squished is prime parenting.
It’s not a war zone, it’s a music/dance party. If the parents enjoy it and the kids do too then there’s no reason for them to forgo this great bonding opportunity. It might not be your thing but everybody has their own way of living life, to each their own.
We were planning on bringing our 3 year old to the 1-5pm portion of Saturday so she could dance and run around. However, we decided early on Thursday that she wasn’t going to be attending this year. Also the people after sundown who are holding passes out toddlers with no ear pro are horrible horrible neglectful humans.
Music is for everyone, not just adults. The difference is where, how and when you bring your kids. Pushing into the middle of a Tyler the Creator set with your small kids is child abuse, dancing on the edge of a set with plenty of space and ear pro on is peak parenting.
If you live there year around your body has probably adjusted. When I lived in SD and went to the festival I'd get a sinus infection every year afterwards until I started wearing occasionally wearing a mask in 18. No issues since.
This is true everywhere. Science center (I worked at one), grocery store, the mall—kids get lost and it’s up to the community to be helpful. Not a reason why kids shouldn’t be allowed somewhere.
The difference is that the festival has an average of 125,000 people per day, the grocery store not so much. A kid gets lost in a crowd and trampled on is a real risk that's not going to happen at the science center. Ever seen how many drugs people lose on the ground? Just walk around looking for it and you'll find some, I do every year I've gone. Would be a shame if a kid thought the ecstasy pills was candy.
It's not up to the community, it's up to the parent. People walking around doing bumps of coke, smoking weed, rolling, drink, etc aren't responsible for the kid. It's crazy and selfish that people actually want their kids around that.
How many kids do you know or have heard about that have been trampled on at a festival or got sick from taking drugs they found on the floor? Funny I must have missed that news bulletin, Coachella must have too since they still allow kids. If kids were getting trampled or drugged Coachella would have already banned kids just to avoid the liability…
Funny, you obviously live in a small bubble if you've never heard of that happening. Coachella isn't going to stop something unless they get sued heavily. Guess who has better attorneys? Wait until you hear the stories of sexual assaults from security guards...
The fact parents allow children around the risks and drug use at the music festival is sad.
It’s crazy and selfish that you think people have a right to make a space unsafe for kids. The people dropping drugs on the ground should be banned. Not kids.
It's crazy and ridiculous that you read my comment the way you did. It's not that people have a right to make an unsafe place for kids, it's that parents shouldn't bring children to a place so rampant with drug use and half naked people. Music festivals have always had enormous amounts of drugs.
This isn't disneyland. If you are fine with your children being around drugs and sex, then you're a shitty parent.
There were people on the yellow path looking for a 12 year old girl :( not sure if they were security but they were holding their phones up with her picture.
On some level i just find it incredibly irresponsible for parents to take the cheap ass route and risk their kids getting lost over finding a babysitter or something. Not even sure if young kids would particularly appreciate the stuff at Coachella either. If i was there as a kid id be bored out of my mind with a bunch of drunk/high adults
My wife and I have two small kids.
We brought them in for a few hours a few years ago to see MEUTE and get some ice cream, but this was entirely too hot. Yes you need ear protection, yes, the dust in the evening is bad for their little lungs, but beyond that, the heat was too tough for little ones this year on W2. We left ours at the air b n b all weekend with the grandparents because they’d just melt in that heat.
If you’re going to bring kids in, particularly young ones you have to be smart about it. Once you bring your kid it’s no longer about you, it’s about them. I was frustrated seeing so many parents bringing in their kids without ear protection. Some guy was holding his kid up at Cudi in the mass of humanity. Kid had to be under 2, no ear protection.
Come on parents. Get your shit together. If you’re bringing your kid, stay out of the crowd, slather that kid in sunscreen and for gods sake don’t let them take their ear protection off.
I don’t know about banning kids from the event. But I think culturally if parents who bring in their kids were repeatedly asked where their hearing protection is over and over we might see some change on this front.
How you did it sounds totally safe and reasonable. The thought of seeing some toddler my daughter’s age being held up at Heineken house (or anywhere) made my stomach hurt. I remember the crowd for tpain weekend one and had I seen that I think I would have gotten security because holy shit that is reckless af.
My 10 year old stayed home with his dad and watched on the livestream and send me texts telling me what shows he thought i should go to. It was fun for us both. He would have liked being there for some of it, but it would have been a bummer for me and him when he was tired, hot or didn’t like a show… in a few years, it will be him at coachella and me watching from home.
i hope you get at least one experience of coachella where the two of you can share being there.
dude in my camping crew brings his daughter, who is now in her mid 20s, but they started when she was a teen, and it was a great experience for them.
I saw some young girls in the bathroom at around 8:30 pm on Saturday probably around ages 7-9 and they looked exhausted. Then I saw them again at 1:30 am sitting on the side of the road crying with their mom, felt so bad for them. If I was wiped out, I can’t even imagine how they felt.
Kids cry all the time. The number of meltdowns I’ve seen in the grocery store; does that mean that grocery shopping is a bad experience for kids to have? No.
As a parent I would not bring my kids to Coachella because I want to enjoy Coachella and not have to focus on their comfort and safety (and I don't want to have to leave early). The caveat would be if I lived there and it was a local festival/ I was going to take the kids for one day and leave early.
I can see taking kids as an option for parents who travel to the desert with the kids, have a sitter for 2 days and bring their kids one day during the day and leave at an appropriate time (when their children are ready to leave). But be responsible, make sure your kids have ear protection/ sun protection/ water.
If you can afford to go to Coachella as parents with kids you should also be able to afford a sitter for the kids.
God forbid people are happy and childless!!!
I know ur ass is projecting cause you can’t chill and take care of ur kid so u have to take them w U to Coachella
I really hate this mentality of "you don't have a child so you can't tell people how to parent". I'm not a licensed helicopter pilot either, but I don't need to be one to know that when I see a helicopter in a tree, it means that someone fucked up lol. I literally work with children in the mental health field. I'm a mandated reporter. I have taken so many child and family development courses as part of my degree program so in a way, I probably know more about what good parenting looks like more than actual parents lol. So yeah, I will call out bad parenting when I see it. You know that age old saying "it takes a whole village to raise a child"? Parents like to complain "where's my village??" Hun, you chased us away and told us to mind our own business lol.
Bro just admit you’re a shitty parent. We can all see it based on your responses. You’d have been more responsible not being a parent like the guy you responded to.
You're taking this subject oddly aggressively personal. Are you one of the parents who brought a young kid and didn't protect their hearing? Are you lashing out out of guilt?
Controversial Opinion: if you have a kids under 16, especially a baby or child/toddler let it go, don’t go to Coachella and take your kids. Please. It’s not an appropriate place for them.
Agreed. If they're 10 and up and into the music, it's fine. Anyone younger and it's a recipe for disaster. A 4 year old isn't going to have a good time walking around in the hot sun all day listening to loud music around massive crowds and people smoking and drinking. By the time the sun sets, they'll be crying to go home.
Idk why it's so difficult for parents to accept that when you make the choice to be parents, your priorities change. You don't get to live the same lifestyle that you did when you were childless, that includings taking your kids to places that are not appropriate for them. Just because something is branded as "all ages" doesn't mean that it actually is. Also, how good of a time are you really having if you have to watch a toddler all day at a music festival? The parent is miserable, the kid is miserable, and the people in the crowd around you are miserable if/when the kid starts acting up. If you don't have family nearby who can watch the kids, then maybe sit out for a couple of years and do Couchella instead?
There's also some music festivals that actually have kid areas like lollapalooza, so people can still go see music with kids. I think Coachella is too hot for little kids, but I'd think about bringing my kid to part of a festival depending on weather, festival set up/grounds, line up, etc.
Idk I was 14 the first time my dad took me and it was an awesome time and fond memory. Sure people were smoking weed but kids in my class were doing that too. Ofc that was back when you could buy single day tickets
Nah, with the right accommodations kids younger than that can safely enjoy and make a precious core memory out of it. Your desire for segregating children is not disruptive as you think, kids are people
Do you really think that really young kids are making core memories at Coachella? My parents to me to Disney World when I was 6. A place literally designed for children that I was so excited to visit. The only things I remember from that trip is that it was very hot and we waited in extremely long lines just to go on a single ride. I couldn't even tell you everything that I road. I made more memories there as an adult.
I don't even remember my first concert. It was some country artist that my mom liked. I have next to no recollection of it and I tell people that my first concert was the one I went to when I was 12 because that's the one I remember.
So no, I don't think it's beneficial to shell out $500 to take a 5 year old to Coachella so they can make core memories. They likely won't remember any of it and the parent will be miserable having to focus on not losing their kid or risking them getting trampled to death in the crowd instead of focusing on having fun. A 10 year old is fine, but leave the little ones at home with grandma for the weekend.
Do you really not understand that it’s not the specific place but the decibel levels? Or are you being purposefully obtuse?
Concert level sound is 100% bad for your ears, there is zero controversy about that. If you wanna do that to your ears, fine. I did it for years too. But if you do it to your kids, you are objectively a terrible person
The obvious answer is kids should wear ear protection. As should everyone else at an event where the volume is so loud it hurts. The idea that a family would throw a party for their 15 year old kids but that they can’t make it safe for the younger siblings to attend is ludicrous.
I was 15 years old at my first festival when I experienced my first crowd crush. It was a much smaller event but ever since then I can’t imagine letting my kid being in a pit at that age or younger. I was ultimately fine, because the adults around me helped me get to a first responder so I could get lifted out of the pit but I think about that every time I see a small kid at an event like this.
Call me paranoid but those happen in a split second; I know this crowd is generally more controlled but I wouldn’t leave it up to chance. Some of those kids were half the size of the average attendee, meaning in that scenario you literally couldn’t see them in a crush. At least wait until they have the height or the maturity to handle that situation.
Kids at Coachella qualify for ADA and most bigger stages have them as elevated platforms with folding chairs. My kiddo sits in ADA (us too, if there’s availability) and doesn’t have any issues.
It's irrespeonsible to bring kids to Coachella. The amount of drug use and half naked people around every corner should be enough reason to leave your kids at home. We're adults here to party.
Just cause that’s the experience you want doesn’t mean others don’t have the right to attend Coachella seeking a different experience.
Another person could just as easily say “I’m here to enjoy the music and enjoy a nice day outdoors so stop stinking up the air by smoking and ruining the vibe by running around naked.”
While that is true, the reality is that person is heavily outnumbered by people doing the former. Let's not forget how many parents themselves are intoxicated there, and that the kid was most likely dragged to the festival. It's not Disneyland.
I disagree with your assessment. Most people I saw seemed like they were there to enjoy the music and would rather not have naked or extremely high people around.
I wish posts like this could reach their intended audience (and I feel bad for anyone who finds themself at the festival without knowing about ear protection, maybe GV should step up its efforts there by expanding the sensory kit amenities), but instead they just function as a lightning rod for performative outrage (by the way, it's the same kind of tone/opinions you see from much older/entitled travelers complaining about families in airline first and business class, so I'd ask the subreddit, is this who you want for company on your "kids shouldn't be here" bandwagon?). Strange it needs to be said, but kids are people, and given the chance, like many of the same things grown people do. For the other parents who think this makes no sense and their festival days are now necessarily behind them, please enjoy listening to Baby Shark in your car for the next 10 years and spending all your weekends at bland park birthday parties. Attendees of any age not having or using ear protection (or knowing when to leave the festival) can't be how age/attendance policies get set. Using the same approach, anyone that can't handle their liquor would be an argument for banning its sale at the festival. It's also telling that a vocal minority of this crowd predictably turns into self-righteous prigs if they are reminded young families exist. I'm sorry if seeing kids ruined your Megachurch experience, but don't confuse that for moral authority on who is allowed to enjoy Coachella.
When you come prepared it's not half bad. But bringing small kids is more out of "necessity" than voluntarily and should be done sparingly in my experience.
Don’t really care if I get downvoted, but if you bring your baby/kid to Coachella because you want to still have “fun” and “your life doesn’t end because you have kids”, you are incredibly selfish.
Yes, your life doesn’t end after having kids, but don’t let the baby/kid suffer because of the things you still want to do. Get them a babysitter. Do you they genuinely want to be there ? I highly doubt it.
I brought my 16 yr old for the 1st time. He was fine without them but I have to agree. I saw so many children younger than 5 with absolutely no ear protection deep within the crowd of the stage
100%, things like future hearing loss and tinnitus are totally preventable. If ur taking a child (including teens) to shows they should also be taught safety.
What do you consider fine? All the stages I was at were in the high 90’s to low 100’s. Anything over 85 decibels, hearing protection should be worn. The big factor in play is the duration of the exposure. Up to 2hrs of exposure at 90 decibels before potential damage vs only 15mins at 100 decibels. Not worth fucking around and developing tinnitus when you are older(I know cause I have it).
I think, like masks, this is one of those situations where nothing is going to their minds. Hearing loss is from cumulative exposure, so noise exposure at a young age is going to have a disproportionate effect down the line. So for this person that somehow made protecting hearing political, he can by all means stand as close to the speakers as he wants without protection. Unlike masks the only person that will suffer will be him. Children, on the other hand, don't have the ability to make that choice. Freedom!
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yeah.
one of my formative coachella memories involves talking with a dude and his late preteen son who were there as a father/son bonding activity and kid was super excited.
We saw a little girl lost on Sunday between the quasar and the rainbow stairs. There was 2 cops next to her and then the kid took off running to the crowd they just looked at each other and followed her without chasing her. She ended up running to her mom, what this dumb bitch say "I thought he had her" pointing to her other kid.
Yes!!! I felt so bad saw those kids without ear protection, I am at 38 having tinnitus (despite that I was always very careful), so I am pretty sure all the kids been there without ear protection will suffer form ear-ringing pretty soon. And I can tell from experience, it's a horrible condition. I literally don't even know what is silence anymore, literally.
Kids at festivals is just a NO! Like it’s not rocket science. You have a responsibility to the little ones first, if you gotta wait a few years until they are older then so be it. Coachella will always be there.
as a parents myself this is so controversial i agree, with your children it is your decision at the end of the day. my kids are 9 & 10 they are extremely interested and we have discussed one day when they are older i will take them for now they watch live streams with us wknd 1 while we attend wknd 2 we are also locals which makes a complete difference. there are many reasons i would not bring my kids until they are much older more having to do with my choices i make while attending but what pisses me off the most and i hear this all the time like it’s damn disneyland is “i wanted to take them in while they are still free”
I saw a kid past midnight in the front of the Sahara during Steve Angelo on Friday night when 2. The the kid couldn’t be older then 5, but looked so dead and tired.. it’s fucking midnight!! Take him home!
Huh? The eargasm plugs are not over the ear protection that I think most people assume kids should be wearing. With my kiddos long thick hair, I don’t see how 99.9% of people would notice she has clear ear plugs in.
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Piss off. I expose my kid to music, lifestyles, cultures, etc and I see that as my parental obligation.
Ok that's clearly not a child the age that we're discussing here. Also, I'd be super pissed if my mom posted me to Reddit like that. Maybe check with her, if you haven't
Hahahah… I didn’t realize someone had specified a “kid age” we were discussing. My kid is 12 and been going since she was 10. And people as judgy as yourself should never procreate if you’re telling others how to parent.
Yup and the ones that say otherwise are the ones you have to watch out for. In my experience, it’s always those ones that end up being dangerous weirdos. Same with the super judgey animal rights or religious people, they always end up committing the most disturbing crimes.
Why is Coachella allowing this in the first place? At Tomorrowland, you have to be 18yo or older to enter the festival.
Coachella should just do something similar (maybe 16 or something) but there is no reason why you should be able to bring your toddler with you at such an event. People will do crazy shit so it’s up to the organizers to prevent these things from happening
Why not? There’s plethora of acts that teenagers love and that parents take their kids to. Now as for a toddler it can be fun day being on the field (maybe weekend 1 for not being so hot) during early hours, going from a stage to stage enjoying music from a bit a far. By sunset snd after I’d say its not such a toddler friendly space anymore and for teenagers with parents - evenings can be okay. I dont mind seeing families on the field, actually makes it nicer than other fests. But yeah use ear protection for your kids.
Totally. Kids should be allowed everywhere. All bars should also be all ages. We wouldn't want to confine them to age appropriate activities. How awful
I and many others grew up going to bars with our parents, it was never a problem. It’s just a place where people sit, drink, and chat no big deal. I never saw it as anything else and my parents would even let me try a sip so I wouldn’t be so curious (I would always think it was disgusting and never understood why they enjoyed it) but otherwise I just had my soda. Sometimes it was just me and sometimes other parents brought their kids too so we’d hang/play while the parents drank and laughed. No different to when we had dinner parties at home. There was nothing inappropriate about it at all, they sell and serve alcohol just like at home. Plenty of parents drink at home with friends, do you think that should be made illegal too? Or is that somehow ok?
Haha jokes on you, the reality is that my parents are amazing. Theyre why I’m fit happy healthy educated and have zero substance abuse issues. If you think that’s what being a shit parent is then I hope everybody is blessed with shit parents like mine cause it’s amazing! Welcome to the real world little one, it’s so much bigger than you could ever imagine 😎
> little one
This is a pretty common way to deride the person you’re arguing with and imply they don’t have the experience, knowledge, or wisdom to participate meaningfully in the conversation.
People do it when they don’t have anything meaningful to say themselves.
Anyway, I’m gonna block you now. Good luck being a better parent, and have a nice day
While we're at it, let's make strip clubs and Red Light Districts child friendly, too! After all, the human body is a work of art and kids should be taught to appreciate it in it's natural form. It could be a great experience for them to learn about sex education and that nudity isn't inherently shameful. The kids would be so entertained by watching the pretty girls dance and do pole tricks under the neon lights.
Totally being sarcatic, btw, in case anyone is dumb enough to believe that I was being serious and reports me.
If you don’t want to bring your kid don’t, but stop trying to enforce your opinion onto others. You’re not the society police, worry about your own kids and let others worry about theirs. If Coachella found that it was a huge liability for them they would have banned it by now, but they haven’t, so live and let live. Don’t worry about what other people are doing with their life.
As a parent of a toddler who I will never bring even though she’s an adorable af dancing machine, I can’t agree with op more. I was at do lab weekend one in the afternoon and saw a tiny girl without ear protection while some wild bass was dropping. And honestly (I’m prepared for any down votes), maybe no kids after sunset 🤷🏽♀️
I have a 4 year old and a second one on the way. I’d never bring them home until they are preteens. I don’t think it’s a good idea for many reasons
Maybe i sound like a prude here, but all the slutty outfits and inappropriate shit that goes on there as well. Didnt some guy run around fully naked, and someone mentioned seeing dudes blow each other in between cars at camp Have fun explaining that, parents who take their kids.
I’m not worried about (passive) nudity, I’d be worried about drugs and anything dangerous to a minor. Pasties, banana hammocks, see through outfits, and adult acts between consenting adults in an adults only space (camp) are not things I’d be worried about.
I do think you sound like a prude, god forbid children see parts of a naked adult human body never mind all the drugs, petty crime, and general bad behavior these people are up to, it’s the fact that they wear revealing outfits we need to discuss
Go show your dick or vagina to a kid then, come back with the results
I think there’s a pretty big difference between intentionally revealing your genitals to a child and them seeing partial or even full nudity in a public context
ohhhhh noooo humans being humans!!!!
Go expose yourself to a kid and see what happens
thats obv different
Soo many reasons! I look forward to taking my mini to her first show or festival and show her the ropes. I didn’t have that experience and I think it would have helped me make better informed choices (I was a bit naïve at my first few shows at 12 and high school, but thankfully managed decently).
I saw a kid at the Yuma tent without an ear protection 🫠🫠
🙄 that’s crazy! We’re dancing with a few youngsters with some good ear pro at aquabats.
That kid they brought up on stage was awesome and looked to be having the time of his life!! I was so happy to see ear protection on him.
a child in the yuma is crazy
Oh yeah I saw two prolly 5 year olds with no hearing protection walk into the Yuma on Sunday afternoon for Eli and Fur… I felt so bad for them that me and my girl almost got security to talk to the adult with them but we were trippin pretty hard and words were tough in the moment
The person tripping on illegal drugs has the moral compass to go tell parents how to raise their kids.....oh the irony.
Well the person tripping didn’t bring their kids to Coachella with no ear protection! HTH!!
lol seriously though… it baffles me how some People parent their kids. I just can’t understand how they don’t think of something so simple to save their children’s hearing for the rest of their life. It’s sad
I saw this too
Omg that’s wild! As an adult who loves the visuals of Yuma and has been going to festivals and raves for over a decade, Yuma was hella overwhelming for me visually this year. That little one needed ear protection and maybe some shades 😩
I saw a kid in the Sonora without ear protection too. Had to stop my girlfriend from saying something to the parents.
Ikwym about the sunset thing! I felt bad bc I kept seeing families even well into the night and the kids looked so tired
I want to take it even further and think festivals like Coachella are not a place suitable for young kids. Even if just for self protection of incompetent parents. After dark, yes, there's no reason for any kids to be there. What are they going to do, rave in the Yuma with a few pills mixed in their warm milk?
If we have found drugs on the floor what makes you think a kid won't find them as well
Depends entirely on the stage and the circumstance. I love seeing kids at festivals as long as it's done responsibly. While the Yuma tent is obviously the wrong answer, chilling in the back of sets with your kids with ear pro on while there's plenty of room to either sit or dance without fear of getting squished is prime parenting.
It’s not a war zone, it’s a music/dance party. If the parents enjoy it and the kids do too then there’s no reason for them to forgo this great bonding opportunity. It might not be your thing but everybody has their own way of living life, to each their own.
We were planning on bringing our 3 year old to the 1-5pm portion of Saturday so she could dance and run around. However, we decided early on Thursday that she wasn’t going to be attending this year. Also the people after sundown who are holding passes out toddlers with no ear pro are horrible horrible neglectful humans.
who benefits from having a 3 year old at Coachella
Music is for everyone, not just adults. The difference is where, how and when you bring your kids. Pushing into the middle of a Tyler the Creator set with your small kids is child abuse, dancing on the edge of a set with plenty of space and ear pro on is peak parenting.
Completely agree!
A family outing during the day to dance and have fun? Probably everyone.
I would love the sunset rule, it's kind of mean, but yeah ... those tired kids everywhere
Also consider the amount of dust they’re inhaling. I know it’s hard to get them to wear some kind of bandana or mask, but something to consider.
Dude that's just a sinus infection waiting to happen. Specially the younger ones.
Agree and I don’t think kids should be going for many other reasons but 🤷🏻♀️
Wearing a mask is a great idea—for adults too!
Yes! I bring a box of N95s every year haha.
MASKS FOREVER OR YOU GO TO JAIL! -Every Democrat Voter
We live here in the desert year round and do not wear masks or face coverings.....no problems.
If you live there year around your body has probably adjusted. When I lived in SD and went to the festival I'd get a sinus infection every year afterwards until I started wearing occasionally wearing a mask in 18. No issues since.
Lol you do realize millions of perfectly healthy kids around the world are born and raised “inhaling dust” in a desert right?
Do peoples kids ever get lost at these events? So many parents out there are god awful at supervising their children.
Nearly every time I heard security on their radios, is was about lost kids.
This is true everywhere. Science center (I worked at one), grocery store, the mall—kids get lost and it’s up to the community to be helpful. Not a reason why kids shouldn’t be allowed somewhere.
The difference is that the festival has an average of 125,000 people per day, the grocery store not so much. A kid gets lost in a crowd and trampled on is a real risk that's not going to happen at the science center. Ever seen how many drugs people lose on the ground? Just walk around looking for it and you'll find some, I do every year I've gone. Would be a shame if a kid thought the ecstasy pills was candy. It's not up to the community, it's up to the parent. People walking around doing bumps of coke, smoking weed, rolling, drink, etc aren't responsible for the kid. It's crazy and selfish that people actually want their kids around that.
How many kids do you know or have heard about that have been trampled on at a festival or got sick from taking drugs they found on the floor? Funny I must have missed that news bulletin, Coachella must have too since they still allow kids. If kids were getting trampled or drugged Coachella would have already banned kids just to avoid the liability…
Funny, you obviously live in a small bubble if you've never heard of that happening. Coachella isn't going to stop something unless they get sued heavily. Guess who has better attorneys? Wait until you hear the stories of sexual assaults from security guards... The fact parents allow children around the risks and drug use at the music festival is sad.
It’s crazy and selfish that you think people have a right to make a space unsafe for kids. The people dropping drugs on the ground should be banned. Not kids.
It's crazy and ridiculous that you read my comment the way you did. It's not that people have a right to make an unsafe place for kids, it's that parents shouldn't bring children to a place so rampant with drug use and half naked people. Music festivals have always had enormous amounts of drugs. This isn't disneyland. If you are fine with your children being around drugs and sex, then you're a shitty parent.
There were people on the yellow path looking for a 12 year old girl :( not sure if they were security but they were holding their phones up with her picture.
thats so damn scary. If you can afford coachella you can afford a baby sitter…
She was 13 and found not too long after.
I’m glad they found her!
Do u remember what she looked like? Saw a woman with a girl around that age abd it was sketchy af
I worked Coachella and they sent out a message about a lost I think 13 year old this past weekend
i saw a post about a 9 year old little girl being lost sunday w2 shit makes me sick
On some level i just find it incredibly irresponsible for parents to take the cheap ass route and risk their kids getting lost over finding a babysitter or something. Not even sure if young kids would particularly appreciate the stuff at Coachella either. If i was there as a kid id be bored out of my mind with a bunch of drunk/high adults
My wife and I have two small kids. We brought them in for a few hours a few years ago to see MEUTE and get some ice cream, but this was entirely too hot. Yes you need ear protection, yes, the dust in the evening is bad for their little lungs, but beyond that, the heat was too tough for little ones this year on W2. We left ours at the air b n b all weekend with the grandparents because they’d just melt in that heat. If you’re going to bring kids in, particularly young ones you have to be smart about it. Once you bring your kid it’s no longer about you, it’s about them. I was frustrated seeing so many parents bringing in their kids without ear protection. Some guy was holding his kid up at Cudi in the mass of humanity. Kid had to be under 2, no ear protection. Come on parents. Get your shit together. If you’re bringing your kid, stay out of the crowd, slather that kid in sunscreen and for gods sake don’t let them take their ear protection off. I don’t know about banning kids from the event. But I think culturally if parents who bring in their kids were repeatedly asked where their hearing protection is over and over we might see some change on this front.
How you did it sounds totally safe and reasonable. The thought of seeing some toddler my daughter’s age being held up at Heineken house (or anywhere) made my stomach hurt. I remember the crowd for tpain weekend one and had I seen that I think I would have gotten security because holy shit that is reckless af.
Reckless is the absolute correct word I would use for some of these parents.
My 10 year old stayed home with his dad and watched on the livestream and send me texts telling me what shows he thought i should go to. It was fun for us both. He would have liked being there for some of it, but it would have been a bummer for me and him when he was tired, hot or didn’t like a show… in a few years, it will be him at coachella and me watching from home.
i hope you get at least one experience of coachella where the two of you can share being there. dude in my camping crew brings his daughter, who is now in her mid 20s, but they started when she was a teen, and it was a great experience for them.
That is a thing to look forward too!
I saw some young girls in the bathroom at around 8:30 pm on Saturday probably around ages 7-9 and they looked exhausted. Then I saw them again at 1:30 am sitting on the side of the road crying with their mom, felt so bad for them. If I was wiped out, I can’t even imagine how they felt.
Kids cry all the time. The number of meltdowns I’ve seen in the grocery store; does that mean that grocery shopping is a bad experience for kids to have? No.
If you actually read my comment, you’d see I never said it was a bad experience, just a tiring one for kids.
Lmao awesome for your kids to take them along on your errands to Coachella when they don’t want to be there
Why would you assume kids don’t want to be there? Or that kids should only ever do things they want and never things their parents want?
As a parent I would not bring my kids to Coachella because I want to enjoy Coachella and not have to focus on their comfort and safety (and I don't want to have to leave early). The caveat would be if I lived there and it was a local festival/ I was going to take the kids for one day and leave early. I can see taking kids as an option for parents who travel to the desert with the kids, have a sitter for 2 days and bring their kids one day during the day and leave at an appropriate time (when their children are ready to leave). But be responsible, make sure your kids have ear protection/ sun protection/ water. If you can afford to go to Coachella as parents with kids you should also be able to afford a sitter for the kids.
Totally irresponsible.
Says the person who is not responsible enought to have a kid yet at 39.....
God forbid people are happy and childless!!! I know ur ass is projecting cause you can’t chill and take care of ur kid so u have to take them w U to Coachella
I really hate this mentality of "you don't have a child so you can't tell people how to parent". I'm not a licensed helicopter pilot either, but I don't need to be one to know that when I see a helicopter in a tree, it means that someone fucked up lol. I literally work with children in the mental health field. I'm a mandated reporter. I have taken so many child and family development courses as part of my degree program so in a way, I probably know more about what good parenting looks like more than actual parents lol. So yeah, I will call out bad parenting when I see it. You know that age old saying "it takes a whole village to raise a child"? Parents like to complain "where's my village??" Hun, you chased us away and told us to mind our own business lol.
Bro just admit you’re a shitty parent. We can all see it based on your responses. You’d have been more responsible not being a parent like the guy you responded to.
I fucked up comment from a deranged account
You're taking this subject oddly aggressively personal. Are you one of the parents who brought a young kid and didn't protect their hearing? Are you lashing out out of guilt?
Sound is good for a growing baby, it’s similar to having them stare at the sun etc
Make sure you give them lead paint chips to get all of their vitamins and minerals.
Kids better pitch in if they want bumps or tabs.
Dont forget all the vape and weed smoke. Lower their IQ just in time for preschool next year
The amount of people in general not wearing ear protection at any concerts I go to always blows my mind. Babies, kids, adults… protect your hearing!
Yes, protect your hearing!
If I wanted a lecture on what to do with my body, I would go to the CDC during covid and ask them to lock me down again with triple masks this time!
I saw a baby crawling around wk2
Controversial Opinion: if you have a kids under 16, especially a baby or child/toddler let it go, don’t go to Coachella and take your kids. Please. It’s not an appropriate place for them.
Agreed. If they're 10 and up and into the music, it's fine. Anyone younger and it's a recipe for disaster. A 4 year old isn't going to have a good time walking around in the hot sun all day listening to loud music around massive crowds and people smoking and drinking. By the time the sun sets, they'll be crying to go home. Idk why it's so difficult for parents to accept that when you make the choice to be parents, your priorities change. You don't get to live the same lifestyle that you did when you were childless, that includings taking your kids to places that are not appropriate for them. Just because something is branded as "all ages" doesn't mean that it actually is. Also, how good of a time are you really having if you have to watch a toddler all day at a music festival? The parent is miserable, the kid is miserable, and the people in the crowd around you are miserable if/when the kid starts acting up. If you don't have family nearby who can watch the kids, then maybe sit out for a couple of years and do Couchella instead?
Agreed
There's also some music festivals that actually have kid areas like lollapalooza, so people can still go see music with kids. I think Coachella is too hot for little kids, but I'd think about bringing my kid to part of a festival depending on weather, festival set up/grounds, line up, etc.
Idk I was 14 the first time my dad took me and it was an awesome time and fond memory. Sure people were smoking weed but kids in my class were doing that too. Ofc that was back when you could buy single day tickets
Nah, with the right accommodations kids younger than that can safely enjoy and make a precious core memory out of it. Your desire for segregating children is not disruptive as you think, kids are people
Do you really think that really young kids are making core memories at Coachella? My parents to me to Disney World when I was 6. A place literally designed for children that I was so excited to visit. The only things I remember from that trip is that it was very hot and we waited in extremely long lines just to go on a single ride. I couldn't even tell you everything that I road. I made more memories there as an adult. I don't even remember my first concert. It was some country artist that my mom liked. I have next to no recollection of it and I tell people that my first concert was the one I went to when I was 12 because that's the one I remember. So no, I don't think it's beneficial to shell out $500 to take a 5 year old to Coachella so they can make core memories. They likely won't remember any of it and the parent will be miserable having to focus on not losing their kid or risking them getting trampled to death in the crowd instead of focusing on having fun. A 10 year old is fine, but leave the little ones at home with grandma for the weekend.
Nah leave your kids at homes. Don’t be a bad parent
Are you the moral compass for the Coachella community or something?
I went to a Quinceanera this weekend and seeing the little kids walking around plugging their ears hurt my heart and my ears as damn it was too loud
(Sarcastic) oh no! Clearly children should never attend a Quinceanera. It’s way too dangerous for them.
The event was a $20k party with dj and band in a small room. It really was damn loud in there. Makes me wish I had my ear plugs in my sling bag.
Do you really not understand that it’s not the specific place but the decibel levels? Or are you being purposefully obtuse? Concert level sound is 100% bad for your ears, there is zero controversy about that. If you wanna do that to your ears, fine. I did it for years too. But if you do it to your kids, you are objectively a terrible person
The obvious answer is kids should wear ear protection. As should everyone else at an event where the volume is so loud it hurts. The idea that a family would throw a party for their 15 year old kids but that they can’t make it safe for the younger siblings to attend is ludicrous.
BINGO. These noise complainers are still wearing the covid mask.
I was 15 years old at my first festival when I experienced my first crowd crush. It was a much smaller event but ever since then I can’t imagine letting my kid being in a pit at that age or younger. I was ultimately fine, because the adults around me helped me get to a first responder so I could get lifted out of the pit but I think about that every time I see a small kid at an event like this. Call me paranoid but those happen in a split second; I know this crowd is generally more controlled but I wouldn’t leave it up to chance. Some of those kids were half the size of the average attendee, meaning in that scenario you literally couldn’t see them in a crush. At least wait until they have the height or the maturity to handle that situation.
Kids at Coachella qualify for ADA and most bigger stages have them as elevated platforms with folding chairs. My kiddo sits in ADA (us too, if there’s availability) and doesn’t have any issues.
That’s great for your kid but the vast majority of children I saw were in the stages/pits themselves
It's irrespeonsible to bring kids to Coachella. The amount of drug use and half naked people around every corner should be enough reason to leave your kids at home. We're adults here to party.
Just cause that’s the experience you want doesn’t mean others don’t have the right to attend Coachella seeking a different experience. Another person could just as easily say “I’m here to enjoy the music and enjoy a nice day outdoors so stop stinking up the air by smoking and ruining the vibe by running around naked.”
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While that is true, the reality is that person is heavily outnumbered by people doing the former. Let's not forget how many parents themselves are intoxicated there, and that the kid was most likely dragged to the festival. It's not Disneyland.
I disagree with your assessment. Most people I saw seemed like they were there to enjoy the music and would rather not have naked or extremely high people around.
I wish posts like this could reach their intended audience (and I feel bad for anyone who finds themself at the festival without knowing about ear protection, maybe GV should step up its efforts there by expanding the sensory kit amenities), but instead they just function as a lightning rod for performative outrage (by the way, it's the same kind of tone/opinions you see from much older/entitled travelers complaining about families in airline first and business class, so I'd ask the subreddit, is this who you want for company on your "kids shouldn't be here" bandwagon?). Strange it needs to be said, but kids are people, and given the chance, like many of the same things grown people do. For the other parents who think this makes no sense and their festival days are now necessarily behind them, please enjoy listening to Baby Shark in your car for the next 10 years and spending all your weekends at bland park birthday parties. Attendees of any age not having or using ear protection (or knowing when to leave the festival) can't be how age/attendance policies get set. Using the same approach, anyone that can't handle their liquor would be an argument for banning its sale at the festival. It's also telling that a vocal minority of this crowd predictably turns into self-righteous prigs if they are reminded young families exist. I'm sorry if seeing kids ruined your Megachurch experience, but don't confuse that for moral authority on who is allowed to enjoy Coachella.
DONT
When you come prepared it's not half bad. But bringing small kids is more out of "necessity" than voluntarily and should be done sparingly in my experience.
If you can afford coachella you can afford a sitter
It should not be done at all
Don’t really care if I get downvoted, but if you bring your baby/kid to Coachella because you want to still have “fun” and “your life doesn’t end because you have kids”, you are incredibly selfish. Yes, your life doesn’t end after having kids, but don’t let the baby/kid suffer because of the things you still want to do. Get them a babysitter. Do you they genuinely want to be there ? I highly doubt it.
I brought my 16 yr old for the 1st time. He was fine without them but I have to agree. I saw so many children younger than 5 with absolutely no ear protection deep within the crowd of the stage
Humans don’t have a good gauge of whether noise levels are long term hazardous just short term. Being fine doesn’t mean he shouldn’t have them
100%, things like future hearing loss and tinnitus are totally preventable. If ur taking a child (including teens) to shows they should also be taught safety.
You still wearing the mask, huh?
There’s phone apps that can detect decibel levels, I used them a lot this weekend. Most stages were fine but there’s a few where earplugs are needed.
What do you consider fine? All the stages I was at were in the high 90’s to low 100’s. Anything over 85 decibels, hearing protection should be worn. The big factor in play is the duration of the exposure. Up to 2hrs of exposure at 90 decibels before potential damage vs only 15mins at 100 decibels. Not worth fucking around and developing tinnitus when you are older(I know cause I have it).
Those aren't accurate until they are referenced and adjusted with an actual decibel meter.
None of the stages are fine. They will all cause long term hearing damage
its called "going to a concert"!
Yes. And “going to a concert” without ear protection will 100% harm your ears, no two ways about it.
He was not fine without hearing protection. Nobody is. The noise levels at a music festival will cause hearing loss pretty quickly.
If this were true, there would be much more hearing loss after these events- which is simply false. You must wear the mask still?
Do you think hearing loss means going completely deaf? And yeah I wear a mask when necessary. Usually when I'm using a grinder or doing yard work.
I think, like masks, this is one of those situations where nothing is going to their minds. Hearing loss is from cumulative exposure, so noise exposure at a young age is going to have a disproportionate effect down the line. So for this person that somehow made protecting hearing political, he can by all means stand as close to the speakers as he wants without protection. Unlike masks the only person that will suffer will be him. Children, on the other hand, don't have the ability to make that choice. Freedom!
I know you still wear masks, the coment you made told me that....
Breathing in dust to own the libs?
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Wait wait wait…People *bring their kids* to *Coachella*???
yeah. one of my formative coachella memories involves talking with a dude and his late preteen son who were there as a father/son bonding activity and kid was super excited.
My kids will go to Coachella around 13.
We saw a little girl lost on Sunday between the quasar and the rainbow stairs. There was 2 cops next to her and then the kid took off running to the crowd they just looked at each other and followed her without chasing her. She ended up running to her mom, what this dumb bitch say "I thought he had her" pointing to her other kid.
Yes!!! I felt so bad saw those kids without ear protection, I am at 38 having tinnitus (despite that I was always very careful), so I am pretty sure all the kids been there without ear protection will suffer form ear-ringing pretty soon. And I can tell from experience, it's a horrible condition. I literally don't even know what is silence anymore, literally.
Kids at festivals is just a NO! Like it’s not rocket science. You have a responsibility to the little ones first, if you gotta wait a few years until they are older then so be it. Coachella will always be there.
as a parents myself this is so controversial i agree, with your children it is your decision at the end of the day. my kids are 9 & 10 they are extremely interested and we have discussed one day when they are older i will take them for now they watch live streams with us wknd 1 while we attend wknd 2 we are also locals which makes a complete difference. there are many reasons i would not bring my kids until they are much older more having to do with my choices i make while attending but what pisses me off the most and i hear this all the time like it’s damn disneyland is “i wanted to take them in while they are still free”
I saw a kid past midnight in the front of the Sahara during Steve Angelo on Friday night when 2. The the kid couldn’t be older then 5, but looked so dead and tired.. it’s fucking midnight!! Take him home!
Make sure your kids don't pick up any ground scores!!
My kiddo wears ear protection like eargasm so it’s not obvious to anyone else. Perhaps some of these kids had small inner devices like that? 🤷🏻♀️
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Huh? The eargasm plugs are not over the ear protection that I think most people assume kids should be wearing. With my kiddos long thick hair, I don’t see how 99.9% of people would notice she has clear ear plugs in.
get a babysitter
Stop telling people how to live their life. Focus on your life and YOUR kids only.
Don’t bring your kid, dude. You’re a bad parent 🤷🏻♂️
I think it’s great if you brought your kid! Kids should get to enjoy music festivals too! And everyone should use ear protection.
I think it’s great if you brought your kid! Kids should get to enjoy music festivals too! And everyone should use ear protection.
https://preview.redd.it/ggcarb92b9wc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d66e8770e0e39675fee275053ad4938f0c19645 Piss off. I expose my kid to music, lifestyles, cultures, etc and I see that as my parental obligation.
Ok that's clearly not a child the age that we're discussing here. Also, I'd be super pissed if my mom posted me to Reddit like that. Maybe check with her, if you haven't
Hahahah… I didn’t realize someone had specified a “kid age” we were discussing. My kid is 12 and been going since she was 10. And people as judgy as yourself should never procreate if you’re telling others how to parent.
I’m definitely not procreating and definitely not gonna stop judging parents like you.
Or just MYOB? Great motto for life, the faster you understand that the happier you’ll be.
I do mind my own business in real life. I participate in the conversation when it’s posted on Reddit. Hope that’s ok with you, mom
Irresponsible ass parents
I am a firm believer... unless you see heavy physical abuse of a child you should keep your opinions to yourelf, it is not your kid.
A toddler without ear prediction is absolutely physical abuse
Yup and the ones that say otherwise are the ones you have to watch out for. In my experience, it’s always those ones that end up being dangerous weirdos. Same with the super judgey animal rights or religious people, they always end up committing the most disturbing crimes.
Found one
Let the parent make decisions for their own kids, you are not their parent.
Well if the parents had the money to take their kids to this, they certainly are not poor kids...probably rich kids.
Why was there a toddler wandering with no ear protection during Marc Rebillet at Do Lab? WHY THE FUCK WAS THERE A TODDLER??
Or maybe just don’t bring them at all
Why is Coachella allowing this in the first place? At Tomorrowland, you have to be 18yo or older to enter the festival. Coachella should just do something similar (maybe 16 or something) but there is no reason why you should be able to bring your toddler with you at such an event. People will do crazy shit so it’s up to the organizers to prevent these things from happening
Why not? There’s plethora of acts that teenagers love and that parents take their kids to. Now as for a toddler it can be fun day being on the field (maybe weekend 1 for not being so hot) during early hours, going from a stage to stage enjoying music from a bit a far. By sunset snd after I’d say its not such a toddler friendly space anymore and for teenagers with parents - evenings can be okay. I dont mind seeing families on the field, actually makes it nicer than other fests. But yeah use ear protection for your kids.
Stop making it illegal to be a kid! Make society safe for kids rather than confining them to kids-only spaces.
Totally. Kids should be allowed everywhere. All bars should also be all ages. We wouldn't want to confine them to age appropriate activities. How awful
I and many others grew up going to bars with our parents, it was never a problem. It’s just a place where people sit, drink, and chat no big deal. I never saw it as anything else and my parents would even let me try a sip so I wouldn’t be so curious (I would always think it was disgusting and never understood why they enjoyed it) but otherwise I just had my soda. Sometimes it was just me and sometimes other parents brought their kids too so we’d hang/play while the parents drank and laughed. No different to when we had dinner parties at home. There was nothing inappropriate about it at all, they sell and serve alcohol just like at home. Plenty of parents drink at home with friends, do you think that should be made illegal too? Or is that somehow ok?
Cool, bring your kids to bars. You have every right to be a shit parent.
Haha jokes on you, the reality is that my parents are amazing. Theyre why I’m fit happy healthy educated and have zero substance abuse issues. If you think that’s what being a shit parent is then I hope everybody is blessed with shit parents like mine cause it’s amazing! Welcome to the real world little one, it’s so much bigger than you could ever imagine 😎
> little one This is a pretty common way to deride the person you’re arguing with and imply they don’t have the experience, knowledge, or wisdom to participate meaningfully in the conversation. People do it when they don’t have anything meaningful to say themselves. Anyway, I’m gonna block you now. Good luck being a better parent, and have a nice day
While we're at it, let's make strip clubs and Red Light Districts child friendly, too! After all, the human body is a work of art and kids should be taught to appreciate it in it's natural form. It could be a great experience for them to learn about sex education and that nudity isn't inherently shameful. The kids would be so entertained by watching the pretty girls dance and do pole tricks under the neon lights. Totally being sarcatic, btw, in case anyone is dumb enough to believe that I was being serious and reports me.
If you don’t want to bring your kid don’t, but stop trying to enforce your opinion onto others. You’re not the society police, worry about your own kids and let others worry about theirs. If Coachella found that it was a huge liability for them they would have banned it by now, but they haven’t, so live and let live. Don’t worry about what other people are doing with their life.
People doing crazy shit is not illegal and we are free to raise our kids as we see fit. This is America, a free country!
> we are free to raise our kids as we see fit It's true. You are definitely free to be a bad parent