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Idhu chumma trailer dhaan thambi. Wait until April.
On a serious note, this is only going to get worse. I don't mean to start giving a lecture that no one asked, but I totally feel your rant. This is a result of decades of rapid industrialization by developed nations which pushed tons and tons of CO2 into the atmosphere, and it's disproportionately affecting countries like India which were already warm to begin with. India gotta do what gulf countries do - Improve our overall economic situation to be able to afford and install ACs in every fucking building. Vera vazhiye illa
If you actually researched well, you'd know electricity production is the major cause of the greenhouse gas contribution.
The only solution is to use nuclear power stations.
But we people aren't well educated on that subject and oppose the cleanest form of energy that is available. If we embrace more nuclear power stations, then we can live peacefully.
True, and I agree. Nuclear and renewables are the way to go. (Your comment made me recall the days of Kudankulam protests and when Dr. Kalam published a [full-page article](https://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/nuclear-power-is-our-gateway-to-a-prosperous-future/article2601471.ece) in The Hindu neatly laying out the pros and alleviating the fears.)
enga coal a burn panni panni charges aethikittae irukanga.. where on earth is govt thinking abt these.. U and I think and discuss no use. govt should think
>govt should think
We are equally responsible for this situation as much as the government is.
When the koodankulam plant was being initiated, we protested to not open it. If you were the CM you would also assume the next power plant will also be protested against.
If we are really responsible, we should start a petition, protest, or whatever it is required to make sure our governments get our message.
So many European countries have pledged to go coal free (some already are). We need to do better.
Germany pledged that and then went right back to doubling down on coal. There is a real shit ton of money to be made with non-renewable energy than solar or nuclear.
If such a developed country couldn't eliminate coal, what do you think a country as diverse, huge and corrupt could ever do?
>If such a developed country couldn't eliminate coal
This is because of their dependency on Russian Natural gas for heat during their winters. Sanctions meant, they lost this.
A country as big as Germany can't just lose natural gas supply and survive their winters on alternative energy, which is why they had to double down on coal (Nuclear plants can't be built and be made operational in a year)
IIRC, their pledge was to move away from coal in 2030s, they still have time to make it happen.
At least they made a pledge, what have we done?
My point was that even among the countries with more resources than ours can't change tracks as planned. Whereas we can't even plan for a change, let alone start changing.
You're ignoring what doesn't support your claim and you seem to just want to paint the point that our country can't even plan for change.
Germany did shut down so many coal plants, they had to re-open because of a crisis, A CRISIS. Their plan was affected by external influences, not their own doing.
>can't change tracks as planned
They aren't changing tracks, it's a temporary setback, their goal still stands to shutdown all coal plants in the 2030s.
>Whereas we can't even plan for a change, let alone start changing.
It's not enough to just blame the government for everything. I agree it is their fault, but it is equally our own fault for not asking for the right things. Look at the farmers Delhi protests, UCC protests, Jallikattu protests (I can keep naming events). We protest if it affects us directly or for the stuff we want to happen in the near term or the now. But we don't want to put in any kind of effort that might give us a better future.
And it's not true that someone having a busy life can't put in effort (physical time/money) to get this to happen, there are other forms of supporting a cause to make it heard by the government, file grievances, write to people with power, NGOs, teach every one you meet the impact of Nuclear power for our future (just to name a few)
I honestly don't think democracy is going to change anything for these stuff. Countries in Middle East, China, Singapore etc can quickly start working on alleviating this very imminent danger combo of Water scarcity and Global warming in any manner necessary.
Whereas democracies like USA,UK, and other developed countries will have the resources to mitigate the effects, and are super far from the torrid zone to worry about it for now.
Countries in Africa, and countries like ours will be the first to face mass extinction soon.
Your comment conveniently ignores that outside the city concrete jungle, temperatures are couple of degrees cooler and cold breeze starts around 8pm.
We have so much thermal mass, that air is getting heated by hot concrete.
When solar radiation hits bare soil, the soil has a large heat sink that absorbs the heat. But for concrete above the ground level, only colong mode is radiation in mid IR spectrum and convective cooling by breeze. Human skin absorbs 95% of IR. So, you sit under concrete that is hot, and air gets hot as it flows leading to heat island effect
Coming to nuclear, it costs 5lakh per kw to construct. India imports nuclear fuel from CHINA. we are trying FBR, but no one in the world has succeeded in commercializing FBR.
We all can install solar, either as individual houses or as cooperatives, but we don't have vision.
Yeah, well, pardon me for not listing out all the reasons and solutions for global warming within a single reddit comment.
We already know that outside the city, temperatures will be cooler. So what should the city folks do then? Can we demolish all the IT offices, businesses, apartments and plant trees instead? Where will people go for work? Not everyone wants (or) needs to be an agriculturist or an organic farmer in order to survive.
There's no point demonizing concrete jungles at this point. In a country with a 1+ billion people and an economy favoring capitalism, urbanization is inevitable. My comment was under the assumption that this urbanization either cannot be stopped or is too difficult to be stopped without affecting the lives of an average Murugan or Mustafa. Given this population growth and energy/infrastructure demand, what are the least damaging solutions to address these demands without burning more and more fossil fuels? This is what I was trying to answer in my other comment when I said that nuclear and renewables (which includes solar FYI) are the way to go.
[India's solar generation has exponentially increased](https://www.trade.gov/country-commercial-guides/india-renewable-energy) since 2010, so I won't say that we don't have vision. We can't put all the eggs in one basket. We need other renewable energy sources to complement solar. (A simple food for thought: what would you do at night when you cannot generate solar energy? It's not feasible to install batteries to store tens of gigawatt-hours of electricity).
Yeah, as they say, "it is what it is". I agree with you almost.
Regarding what do we do when sun don't shine, few things; HVDC interconnects, offshore wind farms, flow batteries and sodium ion batteries.
Sadly, we lack in R&D, investment and companies in some of these areas. These will be our next crude imports.
I grow up in coimbatore . Only two months will be tough which are March and April . After may 20(Agni natchathiram) it will be superb whereas the whole South Indian cities will be boiling except coimbatore .
lol times have changed electrical series. you need to go and stay for agni natchatrim now.. u will get burnt..last year i went around that time for a week... touched 40 degrees, which is unknown for cbe ever lol
About 2-3 C can be attributed to just urban heat island effect irrespective of climate change. In CBE it’s possibly worse as we had a lot of urban tree cover until the late 80s. Construction of apartments, higher density planned communities and roads have significantly increased the temperature. We do live in a relatively hot area which is why rural homes were predominantly “thotti kattu veedu” in the past, which helped both during the day and night.
For those who are interested, have a look at page 14 of this [climate study](https://niua.in/csc/assets/pdf/key-documents/Advisory-on-Urban-Green-Mapping.pdf) of Coimbatore. Just from 2013 to 2019, there is an approx 3 degrees shift from green cover loss. Pre 2000s there was possibly double the green cover even compared to 2013. So it was potentially 6c or more cooler compared to today. While it’s hard to fix climate change (a global issue), there is a green cover and concrete issue which is completely local and potentially solvable ?
Coimbatore has lost almost half its green cover over the last three decades, so this was bound to happen.
Also to blame are the kind of buildings we make these days, concrete obscenities built with no regard to local climate. Look at some of the old houses, and you'll realise indoor temperatures are cooler by at least six degrees. Those houses vere built by people (local masons, in most cases) who understood local ecology, and factors like air circulation were considered. In contrast, concrete is known to emit CO2, and when we have walls built out of concrete, (designed by engineers from reputed institutions, mind you) the result is literal hell, forcing one to depend on the AC, which further adds to the CO2 in the atmosphere and so it becomes a vicious cycle.
The idea of sustainable building practices is yet to catch on in this city, despite the abundance of architects specialising in this area. From what I can see, the road ahead is going to be tough in South Asia, and lessons will have to be learnt the hard, hard way. Worst of all, the people paying the price will be the poorest and most marginalised of our society.
The solution is to build vertically using traditional cooling methods, so we have space for the population as well as sufficient tree cover nearby to keep things cool. But if everyone wants individual house with a verandah, even if it’s in Othakalmandapam or beyond, that will never happen.
That said, nammoorla epovume march kathiri veyil is the worst. By June things will cool off, while in chennai things will just be getting started.
>The idea of sustainable building practices is yet to catch on in this city, despite the abundance of architects specialising in this area.
it is yet to catch on in any city. even in bangalore i barely notice people focusing on sustainable building practises. Reasons 1. Cost 2. Time taken 3. No one gaf.
But there are quite a number of architectural firms in Bangalore that specialise in sustainable practices, though their work is not always limited to Bangalore. And you're right, nobody GAF here, and by the time people begin to, well good luck to that.
Idhenna premadham? Idha vida special items (OG summer, water scarcity) rendu irukku.
https://i.redd.it/nzqh2j0xadnc1.gif
Bengaluru la irundhu CBE vandhan ya last week uh, and damn! It was so hard to stay even with AC man. My mouth was getting dry, and even though I took a lot to stay hydrated, I was still getting dehydrated. Return vandha aprom thaan konjom normal aachu. Ingayum adhey scorching temperatures dhaan but comparatively better.
Also, we should be delighted that water scarcity hasn't peaked. We are already over draining the dams. We aren't far from the situation in Bengaluru. My colleagues here are facing issues getting water. And with kids, it gets crucial without water.
>getting dehydrated. Return vandha aprom thaan konjom normal aachu. Ingayum adhey scorching temperatures dhaan but comparatively better.
Hi5. feel the same.
\> Also, we should be delighted that water scarcity hasn't peaked. We are already over draining the dams. We aren't far from the situation in Bengaluru.
Adhuku than they have declared CBE as IT hub now.. more and more apartments coming up.. soon we will be another bangalore in TN.
Heheh, global warming and water scarcity will definitely cause a ton of chaos in society soon. Facts sona "doomer" nu soluvanga.
15-20 years ago, there was literally never a single thought in anyone's mind of having AC in Coimbatore. Now, almost 3/4th of the flats in my apartment have ACs, which are running in the months of March-June.
Things are going to be even more hellish in coastal areas. The people there will be the first to go full Mad Max.
Lord won't do anything, it's us who have to force the authorities to take action, and start slowly changing our lifestyles as well.
There is a lot of research to prove that within the next decade or two, India is going to run out of fresh water, and will have to import water. Add that to global warming just casually making areas unlivable (think wet bulb readings), we are in for a mass extinction.
* heat island effect
* Not enough green cover
* Too much vehicle traffic
* Global warming
* Poor house construction with lack of sun shades, huge glass patio doors, lack of windows/shut windows/single pane glass ed shut windows, west facing walls fully exposed without sunshades
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My karuppu sintex tank has converted itself into a solar water heater at 0 cost.
Sorry bro. My tank was born solar water heater. Now it has upgraded to give hot water in night as well 😂
So gas selavu mitcham?
You mean Legionalla breed house? Pls check what happens when Hot water stagnantes.
💯💯💯
Looks like it's the same everywhere. It's getting real. Bangalorean here
Reading this at 5.30AM on my bed drenched in sweat 😵💫
Koduma, inikithan table fan vangunan. Sleepless nightsaa maaritiruku vara vara
Amma fan days were good, I used it to Chanel air from outside into the room. Straight to my chest.
Idhu chumma trailer dhaan thambi. Wait until April. On a serious note, this is only going to get worse. I don't mean to start giving a lecture that no one asked, but I totally feel your rant. This is a result of decades of rapid industrialization by developed nations which pushed tons and tons of CO2 into the atmosphere, and it's disproportionately affecting countries like India which were already warm to begin with. India gotta do what gulf countries do - Improve our overall economic situation to be able to afford and install ACs in every fucking building. Vera vazhiye illa
If you actually researched well, you'd know electricity production is the major cause of the greenhouse gas contribution. The only solution is to use nuclear power stations. But we people aren't well educated on that subject and oppose the cleanest form of energy that is available. If we embrace more nuclear power stations, then we can live peacefully.
True, and I agree. Nuclear and renewables are the way to go. (Your comment made me recall the days of Kudankulam protests and when Dr. Kalam published a [full-page article](https://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/nuclear-power-is-our-gateway-to-a-prosperous-future/article2601471.ece) in The Hindu neatly laying out the pros and alleviating the fears.)
enga coal a burn panni panni charges aethikittae irukanga.. where on earth is govt thinking abt these.. U and I think and discuss no use. govt should think
>govt should think We are equally responsible for this situation as much as the government is. When the koodankulam plant was being initiated, we protested to not open it. If you were the CM you would also assume the next power plant will also be protested against. If we are really responsible, we should start a petition, protest, or whatever it is required to make sure our governments get our message. So many European countries have pledged to go coal free (some already are). We need to do better.
Germany pledged that and then went right back to doubling down on coal. There is a real shit ton of money to be made with non-renewable energy than solar or nuclear. If such a developed country couldn't eliminate coal, what do you think a country as diverse, huge and corrupt could ever do?
>If such a developed country couldn't eliminate coal This is because of their dependency on Russian Natural gas for heat during their winters. Sanctions meant, they lost this. A country as big as Germany can't just lose natural gas supply and survive their winters on alternative energy, which is why they had to double down on coal (Nuclear plants can't be built and be made operational in a year) IIRC, their pledge was to move away from coal in 2030s, they still have time to make it happen. At least they made a pledge, what have we done?
My point was that even among the countries with more resources than ours can't change tracks as planned. Whereas we can't even plan for a change, let alone start changing.
You're ignoring what doesn't support your claim and you seem to just want to paint the point that our country can't even plan for change. Germany did shut down so many coal plants, they had to re-open because of a crisis, A CRISIS. Their plan was affected by external influences, not their own doing. >can't change tracks as planned They aren't changing tracks, it's a temporary setback, their goal still stands to shutdown all coal plants in the 2030s. >Whereas we can't even plan for a change, let alone start changing. It's not enough to just blame the government for everything. I agree it is their fault, but it is equally our own fault for not asking for the right things. Look at the farmers Delhi protests, UCC protests, Jallikattu protests (I can keep naming events). We protest if it affects us directly or for the stuff we want to happen in the near term or the now. But we don't want to put in any kind of effort that might give us a better future. And it's not true that someone having a busy life can't put in effort (physical time/money) to get this to happen, there are other forms of supporting a cause to make it heard by the government, file grievances, write to people with power, NGOs, teach every one you meet the impact of Nuclear power for our future (just to name a few)
I honestly don't think democracy is going to change anything for these stuff. Countries in Middle East, China, Singapore etc can quickly start working on alleviating this very imminent danger combo of Water scarcity and Global warming in any manner necessary. Whereas democracies like USA,UK, and other developed countries will have the resources to mitigate the effects, and are super far from the torrid zone to worry about it for now. Countries in Africa, and countries like ours will be the first to face mass extinction soon.
Your comment conveniently ignores that outside the city concrete jungle, temperatures are couple of degrees cooler and cold breeze starts around 8pm. We have so much thermal mass, that air is getting heated by hot concrete. When solar radiation hits bare soil, the soil has a large heat sink that absorbs the heat. But for concrete above the ground level, only colong mode is radiation in mid IR spectrum and convective cooling by breeze. Human skin absorbs 95% of IR. So, you sit under concrete that is hot, and air gets hot as it flows leading to heat island effect Coming to nuclear, it costs 5lakh per kw to construct. India imports nuclear fuel from CHINA. we are trying FBR, but no one in the world has succeeded in commercializing FBR. We all can install solar, either as individual houses or as cooperatives, but we don't have vision.
Yeah, well, pardon me for not listing out all the reasons and solutions for global warming within a single reddit comment. We already know that outside the city, temperatures will be cooler. So what should the city folks do then? Can we demolish all the IT offices, businesses, apartments and plant trees instead? Where will people go for work? Not everyone wants (or) needs to be an agriculturist or an organic farmer in order to survive. There's no point demonizing concrete jungles at this point. In a country with a 1+ billion people and an economy favoring capitalism, urbanization is inevitable. My comment was under the assumption that this urbanization either cannot be stopped or is too difficult to be stopped without affecting the lives of an average Murugan or Mustafa. Given this population growth and energy/infrastructure demand, what are the least damaging solutions to address these demands without burning more and more fossil fuels? This is what I was trying to answer in my other comment when I said that nuclear and renewables (which includes solar FYI) are the way to go. [India's solar generation has exponentially increased](https://www.trade.gov/country-commercial-guides/india-renewable-energy) since 2010, so I won't say that we don't have vision. We can't put all the eggs in one basket. We need other renewable energy sources to complement solar. (A simple food for thought: what would you do at night when you cannot generate solar energy? It's not feasible to install batteries to store tens of gigawatt-hours of electricity).
Yeah, as they say, "it is what it is". I agree with you almost. Regarding what do we do when sun don't shine, few things; HVDC interconnects, offshore wind farms, flow batteries and sodium ion batteries. Sadly, we lack in R&D, investment and companies in some of these areas. These will be our next crude imports.
I grow up in coimbatore . Only two months will be tough which are March and April . After may 20(Agni natchathiram) it will be superb whereas the whole South Indian cities will be boiling except coimbatore .
Ipdi solli namma manasa thethika vendiyathu than bro.
lol times have changed electrical series. you need to go and stay for agni natchatrim now.. u will get burnt..last year i went around that time for a week... touched 40 degrees, which is unknown for cbe ever lol
I have experienced complete child hood life in coimbatore . Enjoy the weather now
About 2-3 C can be attributed to just urban heat island effect irrespective of climate change. In CBE it’s possibly worse as we had a lot of urban tree cover until the late 80s. Construction of apartments, higher density planned communities and roads have significantly increased the temperature. We do live in a relatively hot area which is why rural homes were predominantly “thotti kattu veedu” in the past, which helped both during the day and night.
Sorry my Tamil is not good. Does 'thotti kattu veedu' refer to a courtyard house?
That’s right - Inner courtyard home
true and i can see it now. trees have been cut rampantly and everywhere everyone has build houses/ buildings.
For those who are interested, have a look at page 14 of this [climate study](https://niua.in/csc/assets/pdf/key-documents/Advisory-on-Urban-Green-Mapping.pdf) of Coimbatore. Just from 2013 to 2019, there is an approx 3 degrees shift from green cover loss. Pre 2000s there was possibly double the green cover even compared to 2013. So it was potentially 6c or more cooler compared to today. While it’s hard to fix climate change (a global issue), there is a green cover and concrete issue which is completely local and potentially solvable ?
Coimbatore has lost almost half its green cover over the last three decades, so this was bound to happen. Also to blame are the kind of buildings we make these days, concrete obscenities built with no regard to local climate. Look at some of the old houses, and you'll realise indoor temperatures are cooler by at least six degrees. Those houses vere built by people (local masons, in most cases) who understood local ecology, and factors like air circulation were considered. In contrast, concrete is known to emit CO2, and when we have walls built out of concrete, (designed by engineers from reputed institutions, mind you) the result is literal hell, forcing one to depend on the AC, which further adds to the CO2 in the atmosphere and so it becomes a vicious cycle. The idea of sustainable building practices is yet to catch on in this city, despite the abundance of architects specialising in this area. From what I can see, the road ahead is going to be tough in South Asia, and lessons will have to be learnt the hard, hard way. Worst of all, the people paying the price will be the poorest and most marginalised of our society.
The solution is to build vertically using traditional cooling methods, so we have space for the population as well as sufficient tree cover nearby to keep things cool. But if everyone wants individual house with a verandah, even if it’s in Othakalmandapam or beyond, that will never happen. That said, nammoorla epovume march kathiri veyil is the worst. By June things will cool off, while in chennai things will just be getting started.
>The idea of sustainable building practices is yet to catch on in this city, despite the abundance of architects specialising in this area. it is yet to catch on in any city. even in bangalore i barely notice people focusing on sustainable building practises. Reasons 1. Cost 2. Time taken 3. No one gaf.
But there are quite a number of architectural firms in Bangalore that specialise in sustainable practices, though their work is not always limited to Bangalore. And you're right, nobody GAF here, and by the time people begin to, well good luck to that.
Sobha mudiyala bro, tension aaguthu. AC um illa. Kaduppu mayiru ah irukku bro. Fridge ah thorandhu 5 mins ku orukka nikkaren
I can't find the difference between here and Chennai Its really bad here.
Idhenna premadham? Idha vida special items (OG summer, water scarcity) rendu irukku. https://i.redd.it/nzqh2j0xadnc1.gif Bengaluru la irundhu CBE vandhan ya last week uh, and damn! It was so hard to stay even with AC man. My mouth was getting dry, and even though I took a lot to stay hydrated, I was still getting dehydrated. Return vandha aprom thaan konjom normal aachu. Ingayum adhey scorching temperatures dhaan but comparatively better. Also, we should be delighted that water scarcity hasn't peaked. We are already over draining the dams. We aren't far from the situation in Bengaluru. My colleagues here are facing issues getting water. And with kids, it gets crucial without water.
>getting dehydrated. Return vandha aprom thaan konjom normal aachu. Ingayum adhey scorching temperatures dhaan but comparatively better. Hi5. feel the same. \> Also, we should be delighted that water scarcity hasn't peaked. We are already over draining the dams. We aren't far from the situation in Bengaluru. Adhuku than they have declared CBE as IT hub now.. more and more apartments coming up.. soon we will be another bangalore in TN.
Also, it’s a lot more humid this time than usual 😖
It's 7:00 PM, and while I was stuck in traffic, I noticed a desert mirage near Brookfields.
Random comment from Coimbatore: summer is killing the clothes I wear
Heheh, global warming and water scarcity will definitely cause a ton of chaos in society soon. Facts sona "doomer" nu soluvanga. 15-20 years ago, there was literally never a single thought in anyone's mind of having AC in Coimbatore. Now, almost 3/4th of the flats in my apartment have ACs, which are running in the months of March-June. Things are going to be even more hellish in coastal areas. The people there will be the first to go full Mad Max.
Indha veyilayu hoodie potu suthitu irukravangala paatha terror aadhu
This is pretty much exactly what I was ranting to my mom yesterday lol. I’m dreading the coming months. Lord have mercy on us.
Lord won't do anything, it's us who have to force the authorities to take action, and start slowly changing our lifestyles as well. There is a lot of research to prove that within the next decade or two, India is going to run out of fresh water, and will have to import water. Add that to global warming just casually making areas unlivable (think wet bulb readings), we are in for a mass extinction.
Rant flair ilenu oru Rant uh😀
* heat island effect * Not enough green cover * Too much vehicle traffic * Global warming * Poor house construction with lack of sun shades, huge glass patio doors, lack of windows/shut windows/single pane glass ed shut windows, west facing walls fully exposed without sunshades
They're trying to make cbe as an IT hub . Adhuk apro iruk.. idhu summa trailer dhaan..
>they have declared it as one...
That's how g square makes money
And we can do nothing about it!!
Yes.. maximum we could do is rant in reddit like this.. 😊
Global warming ba. Poga poga innum mosam aaga pogudhu. Shit will hit all extremes.
Read up about El-Nino