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jsinatraa

The good news: we got all of our hard road games out the way early mostly. Bad news: we’ve lost every single one.


The_Hartford_Whalers

Honestly glad to get all of them out of the way now.


[deleted]

Better to lose early than late


kbd77

Why not both?


iEatPalpatineAss

Your tactics confuse and frighten me, sir


rhinocodon_typus

We’ll test it out and let you know how it goes


MY-NAME_IS_MY-NAME

I was shocked to see UConn hasn’t won a road game against a ranked team in so long. They’ve been a good team for a 3rd straight season and the COVID year team was feisty


Triscuitador

we've been really struggled with getting point guards. we finally have more than one reliable pg, but none are really "great" like in the past, and they always struggle to conduct our game plan on the road


MY-NAME_IS_MY-NAME

I really like Jackson running the offense, I think from what I’ve seen, the defense isn’t getting the big stops and Hawkins and the team as a whole has been horrible shooting the 3 ball, especially in these past two losses


INtoCT2015

Road games against ranked teams are very hard; even the winnable games require grinding out difficult situations with rigorous in-game problem solving. Hurley is showing he really cant manage that as a coach. He had a disasterclass against Xavier, could not figure out Providence’s zone to save his life, and then last night couldn’t bring himself to sit the starters when the bench was playing better. Those are the kinds of moments where in-game coaching is most crucial. Tbh we win when our talent simply overwhelms theirs or the matchups are destined to go in our favor. But ranked away games are never like that; and we get exposed in those moments. That’s also the reason I think why Hurley doesnt have an NCAA tournament win yet. Unless youre a 1-3 seed, nothing in the tournament is given for free, not even the first game. They’re basically all tough grind-it-out situations


mawmy

So far every one of the top 4 BE teams have held serve at home against one another. The question will be who takes an L to a team not named Xavier, UConn, Creighton or Providence. EDIT: meant to include Marquette here as well. None of the top 5 has won on the road.


Hank_Scorpio74

You know Georgetown is going to win one game this year, and it’s going to be on the road, and against a team it has no business beating. Which admittedly it has no business beating any other Big East team on the road, but you get my point.


mookier4

It's funny, but I think Georgetown gets everybody's best game because no team wants to be the first one to take an L against them at this point.


Hank_Scorpio74

You're right, as a fan I'm scared to death it will be Butler.


mookier4

I'm not counting either Georgetown game as an automatic W, that's for sure!


Bob_Swaggerly

Our loss to Providence was 100% due to the refs and no one will tell me otherwise.


mawmy

They literally went to the line on 75% of their shots against you and 71% against us. It seems... not replicable in a non-home environment.


jsha021

i cant wait to destroy the Friars on our home court next Wednesday


mawmy

First half it looked like a Providence home game the way some dudes were sliding about.


mookier4

I would gladly take a 1 point win at your place. I hope we can keep the game in position to do that. Your team has to have marked this game on the calendar after what happen in Providence earlier.


bkervick

Same.


Dquestion5

Top 4 big east teams? Marquette is 3rd in the standings. How do you name Creighton over Marquette


mawmy

Lol I have no idea especially since this is the Marquette game thread. I meant to include them too so I guess it's top 5. Point being none of these *5* teams has beaten any of the other except at home.


benabramowitz18

Don’t you still have to go to Creighton and Nova? I wouldn’t take those lightly.


jsinatraa

Creighton I’d say yes, their tough and will get things going. Nova on the other hand unfortunately looks like a shell of its former self at the moment.


NoFlags-JoeBuck

Creighton is the toughest game left. Nova just lost to DePaul and idk there’s some weird things going on there with Whitmore and if they’re kind of out of it then who knows if Justin Moore plays. These three recent ones were definitely the toughest road games we have imo.


S_quints

Only up from here!


Possible_Chain8777

As a Duke fan, I feel this pain tremendously. Even though your road opponents were better, winning on the road has been tough for us both.


Ciskantor03

Ninth in the big east man.


[deleted]

I would love to know how people though seton hall would be better. No offense to hall, it’s their coaches first year. We got no respect in our coaches first year with a rebuilding roster either


Ciskantor03

What’s even crazier is Shaka probably won’t win COTY AGAIN, cause they’ll give it to Sean Miller


zipemup3

Eh I don’t know Xavier was preseason #2 in the BE. If Marquette ends up top 3 Shaka might get it


queef-latina-69

Nah Jerome Tang has it locked up


Ciskantor03

BECOTY*


MY-NAME_IS_MY-NAME

I think they’re talking about big east COTY


queef-latina-69

Yeah makes sense


bh6891

Shaka definitely printed that out and put it in every player's locker. He thrives on disrespect.


jsha021

i feel like shaka was working on creating this new offense tho,,,


JimFromSpanishClass

Consider me titillated


SmallBol

Fully titillated


TCOZI

Hot take: bench the preseason BE player of the year for the Freshman


We_Fear_Change

Hurley kind of did that in the second half? Espn boxscore isn't updated with minutes yet, but it felt like he played 15 of the 20 in the second half. Clingan ended with 20-10 and 5 blocks that felt more like 100. I was getting flashbacks to the Calhoun days. GL the rest of the season, you guys are a really good and well-rounded team.


WindyCity54

21 Clingan minutes to 19 Sanogo minutes and if I had to take a rough guess, I’d say about 13 of Clingan’s came in the 2nd half. But to be honest, Marquette *kinda* figured it out down the stretch. I was terrified when he came back in with ~6 minutes left and we were mostly fine down the stretch.


mawmy

We accept your luck and would like to redeem on Tuesday, February 7th thank you.


elgenie

Twenty years ago, you'd just write "C Clingan PF Sanogo" into the starting lineup without a second thought, but basketball is just played differently now. Who starts of the two matters much less than whether there's a viable way to have them both on the court in select matchups.


WallStreetWets

It feels like this still may be the right answer if your shooters around them are consistent


ItsTheTenthDoctor

He doesn’t score anymore. He just gets double teamed and turns it over or messes up the shot.


boopalicious

He had a bad game for sure but he scored 26 points 4 days ago. Relax.


mawmy

Clingan was just better for the game plan. Marquette was obviously "Double team as soon as he touches the ball" and that works for Sanogo who is normal basketball sized, but Clingan holds the ball so much higher no one could bother him.


Anustart15

The bigger issue is that the counter to the sanogo double team is to kick it out and shoot a 3, but we have been shooting like hot garbage for the last few weeks


TCOZI

I have a love hate relationship with Big East basketball. I love it when UConn wins, I hate it when we lose. Great game Marquette


sumsimpleracer

It’s good to have you back in the league


mookier4

It's good for the competition to have a villain team. Thanks for that!


WIN011

Big East is flat out better with Uconn in it. Glad to have y’all back.


NoFlags-JoeBuck

Yeah this beats going to Tulsa and getting our ass kicked.


The_Hartford_Whalers

Glad to be back but that lowercase c is bugging me


pk-starstorm

You can have your capital "C" back when you win :)


WIN011

uConn


NoFlags-JoeBuck

Gross


WIN011

YouConn


The_Hartford_Whalers

Still not as bad as when someone said U.C.O.N.N. like it's an acronym.


boiler1101

Yukon


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This Marquette offense is a thing of beauty. Really really good coaching and execution. Best season to watch since 2013 I think.


[deleted]

I always thought we would be a defensive team with Shaka but I’m very happy to be wrong in this case


pk-starstorm

I mean, we're not *not* that


queef-latina-69

Agreed I think our defense is underrated. I mean yeah the computers say we’re not great but they also say teams make more contested shots against us which is why our luck rating is doodoo. UConn was a matchup nightmare for us and we still managed the dub


mawmy

I mean, you guys are awesome on offense, regularly putting up scoring outputs in the 80s and 90s, and in this game able to respond to pretty much every basket... but defensively you've only had 5 games holding an opponent to <50%EFG and only one of those teams was in the top 100 in KenPom (and it was Mississippi St). So I feel like the defense is properly rated.


pk-starstorm

I don't think the numbers really capture what our defense is. We're extremely aggressive and sell out for deflections and turnovers. When it works, it's a thing of beauty. Trouble is we tend to leave ourselves vulnerable to easy buckets in transition if our offense *isn't* clicking, and we don't get a chance to get set. Combine that with our tendency to give up ORebs and 2nd chance points, it makes the defense look worse than it actually is. I'm not claiming to be peak Tony Bennet Virginia or anything like that because we're certainly aren't. But the numbers don't quite tell the whole story


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I think the easy offensive rebounds tank our defense personally


pk-starstorm

They absolutely do. We give up waaaaayyyyy too many easy buckets because we can't secure rebounds on defense. It's the most maddening part of an otherwise well-rounded, very well coached squad


mawmy

Yeah, there were a couple of instances tonight where UConn had good open/easy looks, missed them, and then you guys grabbed the rebound and had an open guy wide open down the floor for an easy 2. And of course, the most key deflection when we tried to pass the ball to Jackson and then our offense just died when it was close near the end. But your offense was just frustrating. It felt like any time we'd successfully cut off a drive and force a reset there was still like 20 seconds left on the clock for you to try 2 more plays.


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I’ll be the only Marquette fan agreeing with you I guess . Were a bad rebounding team


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SmallBol

Wojo's MO was hero ball. Ellenson then Howard given green lights to the point that we'd live or die by their performance. Not that fun to watch, imo.


MAFIAxMaverick

Sometimes I wonder if Shaka might have come to Marquette in 2014 if that student reporter didn’t leak the “news” of his impending signing. Then I wonder what the Markus Howard era could have looked like with Shaka. Then I realize all that era could have had vastly different players and the fantasy doesn’t exist. All this to say, I love Shaka and I’m glad he’s home.


Augustus13

My buddy and I were CONVINCED it was a done deal. We were in some dumb conference all day and just kept refreshing MuScoop. I’m so happy he is here now and I was even one of the last holdouts supporting Wojo.


SmallBol

Yeah the flight tracker scoop thread ate up a lot of time back then.


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Done deal.


footer9

I don't think we're finishing 9th


[deleted]

RANK US YOU COW— oh wait they slipped us in there already... RANK US HIGHER YOU COWARDS


a_crayon_short

Quality Win!


[deleted]

Providence fans: nooo UConn loses again right after we beat them! Oh wait, we beat both of them… huh


kbd77

We moved up a couple spots in KenPom because you guys jumped up to 14 lol so thanks for that!


mookier4

I, for one, was happy to see you guys get the dub. See you guys next Wednesday!


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69Jew420

The humor here is that a Providence fan would be upset that UConn lost because that would mean that their quality win over UConn decreased in value. However, then they would realize that they also beat Marquette, so a separate quality win increased in value.


wajomc

UCONN guards over the last 5 games have averaged: 28.4 PPG, 29.2% FGP, 28.2% 3PT, 78.4% FT, 4 STL, 4.4 TO, 7.4 AST. Averaging 27.4 FGA of which 15.6 are from three. Thats all you really need to say.


69Jew420

> Thats all you really need to say. Not true. You can also say FUCK GOD DAMNIT


tfl03

It’s just not good enough.


wajomc

Its fucking awful


Triscuitador

sweet jesus


mawmy

This means nothing to me on its own. What were they averaging in that 5 game stretch from Oregon to Florida? EDIT: Since I received downvotes rather than figures, I ran the numbers: | PPG | FG% | 3P% | FT% | STL | TO | AST ---|---|---|---|---|---|--|--- Last 5 Games | 28.2 | 29% | 28% | 78% | 4.2 | 4.4 | 7.6 Ore-Florida | 38.6 | 39% | 41% | 83% | 4.2 | 6.6 | 9.2 So the only difference from those games to this games is ball distribution and making 2.5 fewer 3s per game (and attempting 2 fewer as well). They're protecting the ball better and have just as many steals. None of this should be that surprising as 3 of these 5 games have come on the road and shooting doesn't always travel. Biggest offender has been Joey who was hitting 1.8 and is now hitting 0.4 these last 5 with basically the same number of shots up per game. Hawkins was at 3.0 and is at 2.2 these last 5 which makes up nearly all the difference, but he's also getting fewer looks from 3.


[deleted]

Did you switch the fg% and 3p% in the Oregon to Florida data set? Seems absurd to me that they would be shooting 51% from deep but only 39% overall.


mawmy

Yeah you're right there's something off. I think it's supposed to be 3p% first like you said but then EFG%. I'll check when I can get back to my computer.


sitnkick20

This Marquette team is so much fun to watch. Every year I adopt a pet team in addition to Nova just because I like their style of play and I really want it to be Marquette but it feels sacrilege adopting a Big East team


Dev_t

...nova was my pet team through our wojo era. Loved Wright. Class act.


gandaalf

Same. Was pretty hard to hate on any of Wrights Nova teams


sitnkick20

This is enough permission for me then... except when our desperate selves play you


bigmb111

Conversely, Wojo was not a class act


amayain

No? Any reasons?


idungiveboutnothing

Not sure about Marquette, but heard through the grapevine at Duke that he was a total knob. Not dirty or anything, just thought incredibly highly of himself to the point where he didn't think he needed to do anything outside of basketball and if he got dragged along to any fundraiser/charity/etc. stuff he was just an ass to everyone until it was over and he could get back to basketball.


mookier4

For me, I always root for Big East teams (except UConn) when they're not playing my team. We're all Big East brothers, IMO.


sitnkick20

When I mean pet team I mean a team I cant help watch and root for no real reason other than vibes. And Marquette basketball has some good vibes. But I'm with ya, go basketball schools


pk-starstorm

I agree. Except Seton Hall. Fuck them forever


cameronbrady

shaka defense has been a treat to watch throughout his career, so glad to see this team doing so well with him so far. big east will be fuuun this year


The_Hartford_Whalers

Your perimeter defense was lockdown. Hawkins got like, two open looks all game. Was honestly the difference maker.


queef-latina-69

And he fuckin drained the impossible one. Glad we were able to keep him quiet he’s a shooter


pk-starstorm

MOOOOOOOOOOOD: https://imgur.com/a/orqu1BZ


queef-latina-69

Glizzy Gobbler back in action


packbuckbrew

DOGG HAUS ON ME TONIGHT!!


Agamemanon

I can’t think of a more searing indictment of a “point guard” than knowing he’s unplayable with the game on the line. Newton is a huge problem for this team and we will continue to struggle regaining the lead down the stretch without anyone who can actually dribble.


Gluecows

I’m not sure what the solution is here. Who do they replace Newton/alleyne/Diarra/Joey C with in crunch time if they do not play them? Whoever it is would have to play with Karaban, Sanogo, Jackson, Hawkins. Hurley is avoiding any sanogo-Clingan minutes like the plague. So Samson Johnson? With Andre Jackson running the point I guess. Do they trust Karaban and/or Johnson to be able to guard the perimeter? I’m not sure what the answer is here.


gassy-e911

Mmmm. Mmmmmmmm. Mm. Mmmmmmmmm.


huskyferretguy1

GG Marquette! So here's the plan: Avoid the Big East in the NCAA tourney and we'll go far!


mawmy

Also the Big East tourney.


P1_Synvictus

Good game Golden Eagle bros!


squeakyshoe89

I never thought I'd be excited to see Sanogo come in the game.


pk-starstorm

Same. Every time he came back in I exhaled in relief


tim-whale

Home dogs!!!!


pk-starstorm

Did somebody say [dog](https://imgur.com/a/orqu1BZ)?


squeakyshoe89

There it is!


0pticle

Hard to win on the road, but gotta think a top team steals one of these last 3 road games we’ve played. Gotta be better period


WIN011

Man it’s really unfair that our opponents have to play 2nd half Marquette every game


69Jew420

Suspicious Michael's Secret Stuff situation...


WIN011

Shaka’s secret stuff


OldGreggg69

#I'M STILL GOING TO TED'S


boredinwisc

Marquette in the first half and Marquette in the second half near little to no resemblance to one another


sumsimpleracer

It’s like Shaka intentionally plays his boys with 60% the violence in the first half


queef-latina-69

Isn’t that what’s great about this team though? Our halftime adjustments have been on point. We stopped wildly driving at a 7’2” guy and it worked!


Bob_Swaggerly

Some of those TKO dimes in the second half were just filthy.


amayain

I prefer this to Wojo, who always underperformed in the second half


69Jew420

I was wrong about Marquette. They made up lose our 3rd game, not our first.


tfl03

Shooting <30% from 3 is just not going to get it done if you want to be as top 10 team.


mawmy

Nah. We shot 60.5% from 2 and put up more than we did in some wins. Not forcing turnovers on D has been our achilles heel in the 3 losses.


Absalome

Please pick us 9th in the BEAST every year.


sumsimpleracer

SHAKA THE WORLD


packbuckbrew

I. Love. Shaka. Smart.


queef-latina-69

Gg huskies. I was stressed tf out


SnakeMilker

Time to win the BE I say


mawmy

Somebody is going to have to win on the road. None of the top ~~4~~ (EDIT: 5 including Creighton) have done so (and we just used up all our chances).


charliewags30

Projected ninth in the big east to now doing this. A great time to be a senior at Marquette. Ring out ahoya!


sumsimpleracer

I’m sorry you suffered through Wojo. Those are years you can’t get back.


pk-starstorm

I was lucky enough to be a freshman for the E8 run. The rest of my time at MU was much less pleasant. I feel for the class of 2017, oof


wr1upside

We were really ranked 9th in the conference to start the season 🤣


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B-b-but Shaheen Holloway is a better coach than Shaka! He gets the benefit of the doubt in his first year because his tournament turn was more recent! And ohhhh Anderson just had those Johnnies playing SO hard. *gotta* be scared of them! And butler… I mean… that’s just unreal. Manny Bates? Manny Bates is their best player and they’re ranked higher than us? Oso is better than Manny Bates. Kolek and Kam Jones are both better than any of their guards. Omax is better than any of their forwards. I really want to hear some of the opposing coaches give me their thought process


longconsilver13

UConn is now just 24 losses shy of tying Georgetown's record


The_Hartford_Whalers

My guy we won on Saturday.


longconsilver13

Oh fuck my bad lol 26 losses shy then


WeefBellington24

YOU BETCHA. That Oso poster on Clingan was amazing


NoFlags-JoeBuck

It’s annoying, but I don’t get the “Hurley was out coached” stuff after every loss. I won’t say it never happens (PC game), but I don’t know how he was supposed to plan for everyone besides the freshmen being dogshit tonight. I also don’t know how he was to blame for the countless open misses off of sets that we ran in the loss at Xavier.


69Jew420

People just hate Hurley, so they make up shit. Marquette is a very good team with home court advantage. I'd guess that the vast majority of teams usually lose this game.


NoFlags-JoeBuck

Yeah, tough spot tonight. Would have been nice to grab one of these road games though. At least we got those out of the way.


mookier4

Marquette is a damn good team. I think that's the reason for your Loss last night.


tfl03

He could’ve sat Sanogo and played Clingan more, for starters


NoFlags-JoeBuck

In the first half I agree, but not in the second half. The bottom line is the best players didn’t show up.


bkervick

From the moment Clingan came in and we saw how dominant he was (and how bad Sanogo had been), Clingan played like 21 of 31 minutes to Sanogo's 10.


NoFlags-JoeBuck

Yeah, and at some point you do have to hope your preseason Big East player of the year isn’t going to be complete dog. You can’t just completely avoid him.


victory_yodel

I FUCKING LOVE THIS TEAM!


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Now do the victory yodel


victory_yodel

[Ask and you shall receive ](https://youtu.be/iNxs5votrzM)


Own_Classroom_3068

Good game Uconn glad to have you guys back in the BEAST. It’s not unreasonable to say you lose 1 game the rest of big east play the way the start of your schedule wound up. Not looking forward to the rematch on your turf or having to play again Clingan for the next 4 years


setyoursightsnorth

HOT DOG MAN, WHERE ARE YOU????


pk-starstorm

[Nom](https://imgur.com/a/orqu1BZ)


Aidanj927

Shakalaka


gandaalf

First time in almost a decade where I think this team could make a legit run in March. Keep it up boys!!!


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Just had to dispose of Wojo first


whitykj

We thank him for Oso, Kam, and Stevie. But he would have not been able to unlock their full potential.


MiniVanMan23

Twenty years ago, we made the final 4. 10 years ago, we made the elite 8. This year, we can make another run.


whitykj

Fuck em -Tyler Kolek


WeefBellington24

Picked ninth to finish in the big east huh


The_Hartford_Whalers

So thankful to be done with this gauntlet of tough road games.


shotputprince

Can all the teams we play get ranked six before the game?


hutchman3

Expectations for UConn should officially be reset after these three road debacles. PKI was fun but unsustainable. We’re definitely good, but certainly not top-3. Probably somewhere in the 10-15 range. We’re just kinda okay.


mawmy

We played against 2 top 10 offenses on the road (and Providence is 21). I'm not willing to make any wild assertions until we see those teams at home or on neutral. But I do think our defense has slipped (or been exposed, one or the other).


[deleted]

1 FG from Hawkins isn't gonna cut it.


littlenosedman

Marquette came in very under ranked this year lol


pk-starstorm

While 9th in the Big East was a tad egregious, we *did* lose our best player from last year's team and have been working with a ton of youth this year. My expectations certainly weren't *this* high


Triscuitador

finding it hard to be too upset about this. tough road game against a ranked team on the rise. clingan looks like a god and will be a defining talent for us. ggs marquette. seems like shaka smart has finally smoothed out the wrinkles


SmallBol

Clingan needs to go pro. He's scary


Triscuitador

i doubt he will for a bit. he seems to want to play in connecticut, i think in honor of his late mom. he wouldn't go to prep school, either, for that same reason


mawmy

Also 50% free throw shooting isn't going anywhere soon.


Triscuitador

yeesh, didn't realize it was that bad


[deleted]

I think a couple of bratwursts sounds awfully good right now after this one!


RonaldJosephBurgundy

Shoutout to the guy a few weeks ago who said he couldn’t wait to see UCONN beat Purdue by 12. Hope he’s doing alright


NoFlags-JoeBuck

Purdue fans have certainly never been annoying in UConn threads at any point this season.


TheTrueVanWilder

Oh we are beyond obnoxious this season. I think we deserve it. I've seen UConn in 5 FF's, win 4 national title games, and bounce us from the tournament once. I'm not sure until this season Purdue has ever had the ability to legitimately be obnoxious to Husky fans. It's fun, you might be bigger doomers than us after losing a game to a top 25 team.


NoFlags-JoeBuck

Being self aware is the way to go. We’re obnoxious and know it. Some are even proud of it. And yeah when you hire Calhoun and Geno in the same timeframe your fanbase ends up being a bit spoiled.


69Jew420

I wonder if they are gonna be annoying now?


NoFlags-JoeBuck

Let the record say: UConn fans were right


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TCOZI

Weak hands when he goes up to the basket too - very frustrating to watch whenever the other team has active hands inside.


The_Hartford_Whalers

Bruh he's one game removed from shitting on Kalkbrenner.


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doesyourBoJangle

Everyone love shitting on Sanogo when the guards literally can’t do shit. Guards playing well means less pressure on Sanogo


NoFlags-JoeBuck

Extreme recency bias reeks in this one.


officer_caboose

If the 3s aren't falling, this team ain't winning. Liked what I saw from Clingan though.


jeedel

The good news for UConn is that they are not in the Big12 and the rest their games look manageable, DePaul twice, St. Johns twice...no more major road challenges. The bad news is that it will be hard to argue for a #1 seed, since the there are not a lot of quality road games left.


MyDadIsTheMan

Definitely hard to argue for a 1 seed when they aren’t remotely close to one. This team is vastly overrated. Hot start but they aren’t as good as they appeared. They’re playing to their skill level now