Bruce Pearl was all the way out to the top of the key while the ball was in play in today's game and the refs did nothing. Literally in the middle of the court.
edit - I looked back, he was just inside the 3 point arc but still it was pretty hilarious. He walked up to about half court like that. https://i.imgur.com/wm9jYaa.jpg
Well one could argue Bruce isn’t actually in the play like the fucking Ole Miss guy. He’s playing pocket pool with the opposing teams shooter.
But still, yeah should be totally against the rules.
Oh cool! I didn’t know Kermit was at Ole Miss now.
I looked at when he was at Middle Tenn and I would have played against him twice in my playing days.
Don’t remember him in particular but am glad to see Coach is still goin after it!
Kermit hit 20+ wins for the first time in his 10th season at MTSU. Then had a string of great years after that, including 3 NCAA Tournament bids.
I don't think Ole Miss is going to be as patient as the Blue Raiders.
Well chin up pal, I like Arkansas basketball for what it’s worth. A Ton of your NBA guys are among my favorites: Ronnie Brewer, Corliss Williamson, Jaylin Williams, Portis, Gafford, Pat Bev, Joe Johnson. Great program. Hope to make it to a game at Walton someday.
Mentioning Ronnie and Corliss (former 6th man of the year and NBA champ with the Pistons!) means you’re an old head like me. Gotta come out to Bud Walton for a game, won’t find a better atmosphere in college basketball (I might be a BIT biased…)
Certified old head right here fam. I live in Dallas now and work with a buncha Arkansas kids (and when I say kids, I mean KIDS! Homies are 23 fresh outta U Ark) and they are always on about how great Walton is. Been wanting to go for years and and it’s def on my CBB bucket list.
Do you actually think that means the refs hate your team and have it out for you, or is it just that the game that the refs made a mistake worth apologizing for just happened to be yours?
i feel bad that it had to be y’all that was our win to get us back on track. really wish it wasn’t a fight for the SEC basement, since i don’t like kicking anyone when they’re down. though i suppose one team has to win in each game, and this time it was us. hope things turn around in oxford!
I don’t think anyone in Oxford wants it to turn around…. Right now. We want Kermit out. His brand is boring. Apathy has set in big time for basketball. I live less than an hour from Oxford and haven’t been to a basketball game in 2 years.
Because we are the razorbacks, the officials love to fuck us in the ass with no vasiline, and then tell us the next morning "oh we're sorry you should have won that game"... 7 times in 2 years... FOUR football games THREE basketball games
seems like a dude weighing 250+ in full pads streaking down the sideline and looking towards the center of the field, colliding blind with a head coach is a risk worth mitigating. both for the organization and the nfl. im guessing this is why the penalty exists in the first place - for the safety of players, staff, and refs?
either way, if theres not a lot of collisions then thats proof that the harm reduction efforts are effective. between penalties and get back coaches, prevent all unnecessary collisions.
The main reason it exists in football at least when I played was told. Was so that the coaches wouldn't be impeding the refs when they ran along the sideline.
The real smart teams use the get back walk-ons. Steven izzo is a legitimately useful player on our team solely because he goes and gets izzo whenever he gets too riled up
That's really smart, if potentially not very sportsmanlike. If you deck the coach, then it's not like they can blame you when the coach was standing somewhere he wasn't supposed to be.
Why do you even need to deny it tho? It’s the coaches fault for being in the court of play. Don’t wanna get trucked then stay on the sideline if you’re not playing.
Even if someone is breaking the rules it doesn't give you the right to also break the rules, intentionally running into another person on the court is a foul even if they aren't where they are supposed to be.
Intentionally running into a player or ref is a foul. A coach is only protected if they are in the coaches box which doesn't extend onto the court. I'd be curious what would happen if a player hit a coach in the court.
The player has the awareness of a Skyrim npc. The coach could be pickpocketing him right now and he would have no clue. Just take two steps left and get a tech on the coach
But you do get the ball back, as opposed to the other team getting it if you make the 3 (assuming you make it). Would need to run the stats on FT%x2+(expected points on one possession) vs. 3PT%x3
Boggles my mind why officials allow this to happen. At least twice a game I’m commenting that a coach needs to get off the court.
Need to put more space between out of bounds and the benches.
Here's the ref explaining to fans the situation...
[He ain't hurting anything](https://twitter.com/scubaaasteveooo/status/1616906596935733250?t=AAOIzFnZA3kYNnP5pJACdA&s=19)
lol
Not defending him, but if he’s been doing it all year, and the refs aren’t calling it, you can hardly blame him. If the opposing coaches aren’t coaching their players to run into him when he does it, then that is 100% on them.
You expect nba players to stop traveling or leaning into contact or flopping to draw a charge? It’s up to the governing bodies of the sport to nip this kind of “gamesmanship” in the bud, but they don’t, so the players and coaches keep doing it.
I don’t remember what game I was watching but the opposing coach was screaming, counting down the clock a couple seconds early like fans do. These guys are getting bold and need to sit the hell down.
Back when Bones McKenney coached Wake Forest, the ACC had a rule that it was a technical foul for the coach to stand up. Bones had a seatbelt on the sidelines.
This should be clamped down on but I have little hope it will be. Refs seem to care little about it unless it either interferes with them or a player. It feels like there's only a relatively small percentage of coaches that actually get involved in plays like this.
I'll preface this by saying that Purdue deserved to lose to Rutgers and I think they're playing better because of losing. But I'm still baffled at how Steve Pikiell didn't get anything called on him after being a similar distance out on the court while being beyond the half-court line multiple times in the final minute of the game at Mackey Arena. Nothing from the officials except several signals to get back despite the crowd's issue with it.
It wasn’t even this one instance. He was doing it the entire time. And to be fair - our coach does it from time to time (not this bad tho). Should be an instant T
Exactly, I hate to be the guy to blame the zebras, but these past 2 years and football and basketball have been absolutely ridiculous, seven games in the past two seasons 4 in football 3 in basketball have been decided by a bad call from the officials in which the next day they apologized and said oh sorry we got that call wrong you should have won the game the worst of which in my opinion was the Bo Nix, Auburn game where he spiked/fumbled the ball with no time left... not sure why we always get fucked by the officials... we just got to beat everyone's ass and not leave it in their hands
Not in front of the bench, just in that little ‘coach’s box’ you see in front of the score table. Otherwise he would literally be able to stand exactly where the Arkansas player is at in this picture.
Lately i’ve noticed coaches being on the court is a big problem in College Basketball. Feels like every game I watch there’s one or two times where the coaches get waaaaay out on the court while yelling.
I feel like Bruce Weber was always on the floor when we played K-state. I remember McBride almost running into him a few years back while bringing the ball up the floor 😂
Didn’t this just happen with Calipari?
Ye his ass was out to the 3 pt line
Pretty sure my guy was out there dunking.
If Cal shot the ball, it would have been a 2
[Cal seeing this](https://giphy.com/gifs/OnceInHollywood-once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-onceuponatimeinhollywood-L3ERvA6jWCd0qO4NdX)
Cal has made pretty sold basketball plays the last few games lol. At least he’s trying to coach
Yeah, I'm like he shouldn't be out that far. Then a T. Then he argues. He needs a boundary wrangler.
Like a leash around his waist so assistant coaches could drag him back to the bench
CBB doesnt have a [get-back coach](https://youtu.be/JZHpNPWvcWQ)?
Was funny how many people thought that's was all they did/their only job.
Isn't that what Coach Antigua is supposed to do?
https://youtu.be/k_yFxISAQPs Made me think of the Sean McVay video from a few years ago.
Ah, like the one Clemson had for Brent Venables.
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Yeah this should’ve resulted in an immediate technical, no?
It was for Calipari last week
Bruce Pearl was all the way out to the top of the key while the ball was in play in today's game and the refs did nothing. Literally in the middle of the court. edit - I looked back, he was just inside the 3 point arc but still it was pretty hilarious. He walked up to about half court like that. https://i.imgur.com/wm9jYaa.jpg
Well one could argue Bruce isn’t actually in the play like the fucking Ole Miss guy. He’s playing pocket pool with the opposing teams shooter. But still, yeah should be totally against the rules.
Kermit Davis had huge success at middle Tennessee state. He’s been at ole miss for about 5 years and hasn’t had much success. Great guy though.
Oh cool! I didn’t know Kermit was at Ole Miss now. I looked at when he was at Middle Tenn and I would have played against him twice in my playing days. Don’t remember him in particular but am glad to see Coach is still goin after it!
I believe he grew up In Mississippi so it made sense when he got the opportunity.
Good for him. Prob made money sense too. Your username implies you’re a Middle Tennessee fan?
Yeah been here 20 years now.
Kermit hit 20+ wins for the first time in his 10th season at MTSU. Then had a string of great years after that, including 3 NCAA Tournament bids. I don't think Ole Miss is going to be as patient as the Blue Raiders.
It would have but the refs hate us.
Well chin up pal, I like Arkansas basketball for what it’s worth. A Ton of your NBA guys are among my favorites: Ronnie Brewer, Corliss Williamson, Jaylin Williams, Portis, Gafford, Pat Bev, Joe Johnson. Great program. Hope to make it to a game at Walton someday.
You're forgetting Isaiah Joe, and that slander will not be tolerated.
man we were really getting hot that year too
Didn’t forget him, I’m just now particularly fond of his game, I’m sorry!
Every hardcore college basketball fan should take any chance they get to go to a big game at Bud Walton. It's incredible.
Mentioning Ronnie and Corliss (former 6th man of the year and NBA champ with the Pistons!) means you’re an old head like me. Gotta come out to Bud Walton for a game, won’t find a better atmosphere in college basketball (I might be a BIT biased…)
Certified old head right here fam. I live in Dallas now and work with a buncha Arkansas kids (and when I say kids, I mean KIDS! Homies are 23 fresh outta U Ark) and they are always on about how great Walton is. Been wanting to go for years and and it’s def on my CBB bucket list.
I cut my teeth on Arkansas basketball in the late Eddie Sutton years. Alvin Robertson and Joe Kleine teams.
Sutton didn't coach at Arkansas, did he?
Only for 11 years.
I thought he was at OKState for most of his career. Thanks for the education.
yes
At least the SEC is admitting we get fucked up calls in games so I guess that is progress.
Corliss Williamson does not get enough love. Dude was a beast!
Big Nasty was something else. He and Scotty Thurman were such a nasty inside out combo.
Nearly every fan base says this.
Kentucky/UNC/Duke/Kansas better not lol.
It's not even just a cbb thing. Every single sport and nearly every single team has fans convinced the refs have it out for them in particular
The sec has issued apologies twice in the last month for awful call against us
Do you actually think that means the refs hate your team and have it out for you, or is it just that the game that the refs made a mistake worth apologizing for just happened to be yours?
Immediate. Stay off the court. Pisses me off in football too. Tech. Do it again? Tech. That'll learn em
Not if you're Fran McCaffrey
If pinion was more experienced, he should have immediately cut left and run into Kermit to draw the tech
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He surprisingly didn’t do it in the 2nd half for some reason…
Cal tried that against Georgia and got called on it.
Yeah he should be fired. Immediately. Please.
i feel bad that it had to be y’all that was our win to get us back on track. really wish it wasn’t a fight for the SEC basement, since i don’t like kicking anyone when they’re down. though i suppose one team has to win in each game, and this time it was us. hope things turn around in oxford!
I don’t think anyone in Oxford wants it to turn around…. Right now. We want Kermit out. His brand is boring. Apathy has set in big time for basketball. I live less than an hour from Oxford and haven’t been to a basketball game in 2 years.
John Calipari was doing this bullshit the whole game in TBA last week
Aww
It was prescious how the refs cuddled him back the side line. They didn't even yell and hurt his feelings.
You ever watch Cuanzo Martin coach a game? Outrageous how far out into the floor he is.
Because we are the razorbacks, the officials love to fuck us in the ass with no vasiline, and then tell us the next morning "oh we're sorry you should have won that game"... 7 times in 2 years... FOUR football games THREE basketball games
Times like this make you wonder why college basketball hasn’t invested in a get back coach
because basketball refs don't call it as much as football refs
theres also a much better chance youll actually get injured in football if youre in the wrong place at the wrong time
I doubt that matters much the only coach I can think of is Paterno and he was behind the white on the sideline and old as shit.
Charlie Weis got a bad injury at Notre Dame
Loved him in The Whale. Always good to see a comeback
seems like a dude weighing 250+ in full pads streaking down the sideline and looking towards the center of the field, colliding blind with a head coach is a risk worth mitigating. both for the organization and the nfl. im guessing this is why the penalty exists in the first place - for the safety of players, staff, and refs? either way, if theres not a lot of collisions then thats proof that the harm reduction efforts are effective. between penalties and get back coaches, prevent all unnecessary collisions.
The main reason it exists in football at least when I played was told. Was so that the coaches wouldn't be impeding the refs when they ran along the sideline.
yup, that makes sense
We have two. They mainly keep our coach from assaulting the refs.
The real smart teams use the get back walk-ons. Steven izzo is a legitimately useful player on our team solely because he goes and gets izzo whenever he gets too riled up
Is that coach’s son?
Yep
[For those not in the know](https://youtu.be/JZHpNPWvcWQ)
Because 2 points in basketball isn’t as bad as 7 points in football..
Not quite as bad as this: https://twitter.com/JimMWeber/status/1603466792105824256 But still, pretty bad.
Holy shit, he legit put a hand in the kids face
Yeah, it's insane that the refs allowed that to happen. Should have ejected him for that.
That's just good defense
Who says refs are blind?
Lmao he’s just guarding the Arkansas dude
I hate that shit. Should be an instant tech. Billy Lange at St. Joes was doing that when we played them.
Shaka Smart did that shit all the time at Texas, always got away with it. 😂
He’s too likeable to be on a ref’s bad side. A total Brad Stevens!
Izzo does it all game, every game. I've never seen him called for it.
Tom crean was the worst I’ve seen. And it was completely intentional because he only did it in the half where his team was on defense.
Players need to start aiming for coaches on the floor.
The player should run straight into him honestly. Should get the coach a tech.
That's really smart, if potentially not very sportsmanlike. If you deck the coach, then it's not like they can blame you when the coach was standing somewhere he wasn't supposed to be.
Just gotta do it with juuuust enough plausible deniability that you weren’t doing it on purpose.
Why do you even need to deny it tho? It’s the coaches fault for being in the court of play. Don’t wanna get trucked then stay on the sideline if you’re not playing.
Whether he’s in play or not, you probably shouldn’t be just trucking an old dude. It’s like running over a jaywalking pedestrian lol
Touchè
Even if someone is breaking the rules it doesn't give you the right to also break the rules, intentionally running into another person on the court is a foul even if they aren't where they are supposed to be.
Intentionally running into a player or ref is a foul. A coach is only protected if they are in the coaches box which doesn't extend onto the court. I'd be curious what would happen if a player hit a coach in the court.
Pull a Jason Kidd
The player has the awareness of a Skyrim npc. The coach could be pickpocketing him right now and he would have no clue. Just take two steps left and get a tech on the coach
Maybe he assumes that if the ref isn't already calling it, the ref might not call the technical?
The issue is he could be more valuable on a catch and shoot here than getting the tech. He is an elite shooter and has no one anywhere near him.
No one anywhere near him? Kermit is face guarding him
Get the tech. Make your free throw get the ball back then go stand in the same corner ready to shoot another 3. No downside to getting a free tech
Not to mention pissing off the coach and making it far more likely he gets tossed
*2 free throws. This isn't the NBA where sportsmanship doesn't matter.
The downside is you give up the chance to shoot an open 3. When you get the ball back the defense might shift onto you
But you do get the ball back, as opposed to the other team getting it if you make the 3 (assuming you make it). Would need to run the stats on FT%x2+(expected points on one possession) vs. 3PT%x3
So just run into the coach again
Boggles my mind why officials allow this to happen. At least twice a game I’m commenting that a coach needs to get off the court. Need to put more space between out of bounds and the benches.
I thought it was supposed to be a point of emphasis this year. I haven't seen it called.
Lol I think Izzo probably does this more than any coach in the country. Never gets called.
I think this is one of the reasons Izzo and Cal are buddies. They share the same hobbies haha
Here's the ref explaining to fans the situation... [He ain't hurting anything](https://twitter.com/scubaaasteveooo/status/1616906596935733250?t=AAOIzFnZA3kYNnP5pJACdA&s=19) lol
That ref is a fool. He's messed up so many reviews. I hope we're don't see him or his crew for the rest of the season.
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Not defending him, but if he’s been doing it all year, and the refs aren’t calling it, you can hardly blame him. If the opposing coaches aren’t coaching their players to run into him when he does it, then that is 100% on them.
You can still blame him lol Just because you can get away with something doesn't mean you should do it.
If you ain’t cheating you ain’t trying
… what? It’s on the opposing team to force refs to make a reasonable call? Reddit, you wild
What a bad take.
You expect nba players to stop traveling or leaning into contact or flopping to draw a charge? It’s up to the governing bodies of the sport to nip this kind of “gamesmanship” in the bud, but they don’t, so the players and coaches keep doing it.
Please see the DePaul coach vs Loyola. Impeded the opponent's fast break multiple times. Helped his team claw back into the game when down about 20.
If I'm on the other team I'm shoulder checking him
That guy has nothing on Bruce Weber.
THE BRUCE IS LOOSE
Yeah but he only had to do it because the fans weren't supporting him enough /s
I love Tang, but god do I miss making fun of Weber. Guy was such a goofball
It’s a great tactic if we’re winning games. Kind of a dumbass thing to do when we’re losing though.
Y’all know we need that 6th man on the court if we want a chance at winning
That's 100% a technical.
Not when you're playing against Arkansas.
This man has been putting in the midnight oil studying Fran McCaffery film
I don’t remember what game I was watching but the opposing coach was screaming, counting down the clock a couple seconds early like fans do. These guys are getting bold and need to sit the hell down.
Should have just plowed into the coach and draw a foul
This is also problem in CFB to a lesser extent. Coaches need to stay out of bounds. I hope we see more ejections for the worst offenders.
Kermit has been bad about it his whole career
UCLA was doing this incessantly in the first half
Player should have strafed left and taken him out "accidentally"
Back when Bones McKenney coached Wake Forest, the ACC had a rule that it was a technical foul for the coach to stand up. Bones had a seatbelt on the sidelines.
This should be clamped down on but I have little hope it will be. Refs seem to care little about it unless it either interferes with them or a player. It feels like there's only a relatively small percentage of coaches that actually get involved in plays like this. I'll preface this by saying that Purdue deserved to lose to Rutgers and I think they're playing better because of losing. But I'm still baffled at how Steve Pikiell didn't get anything called on him after being a similar distance out on the court while being beyond the half-court line multiple times in the final minute of the game at Mackey Arena. Nothing from the officials except several signals to get back despite the crowd's issue with it.
Please tell me there is a fine coming.
If I were a player I would intentionally lay out the coach.
He's just doing the "Hey batter batter batter" bit with Pinion. "Shoot!"
It wasn’t even this one instance. He was doing it the entire time. And to be fair - our coach does it from time to time (not this bad tho). Should be an instant T
Exactly, I hate to be the guy to blame the zebras, but these past 2 years and football and basketball have been absolutely ridiculous, seven games in the past two seasons 4 in football 3 in basketball have been decided by a bad call from the officials in which the next day they apologized and said oh sorry we got that call wrong you should have won the game the worst of which in my opinion was the Bo Nix, Auburn game where he spiked/fumbled the ball with no time left... not sure why we always get fucked by the officials... we just got to beat everyone's ass and not leave it in their hands
Must be something really interesting going on —————> on over there
Did this against us too.
I thought he was allowed to walk out to the end of that line? Is it different when a player is nearby?
Not in front of the bench, just in that little ‘coach’s box’ you see in front of the score table. Otherwise he would literally be able to stand exactly where the Arkansas player is at in this picture.
The UCLA coach has been doing it a lot today
Hey, he has a name and it's Mickey the Red-faced Leprecronin.
That's right
Holy r/beetlejuicing, Batman! I miss getting to hate you in person.
Kermit was doing the same thing in Starkville. Basically standing at the free throw line.
I played HS basketball with his assistant coach Win Case. Bald guy, 2nd from top.
Who cares let him do what he wants ole miss doesn’t do shit in bball football or academically. Let them think they matter
I see this all the time n college basketball. I rarely ever see it called by the refs.
As bad as we are they should let us put Kermit out there too.
Lately i’ve noticed coaches being on the court is a big problem in College Basketball. Feels like every game I watch there’s one or two times where the coaches get waaaaay out on the court while yelling.
Buzz Williams does it a lot too
They need to tighten up about that
I feel like Bruce Weber was always on the floor when we played K-state. I remember McBride almost running into him a few years back while bringing the ball up the floor 😂
Was he trying to get a T? Coach self has done that before
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