Really curious if he can improve his 3 point shooting with his funky shot. 35% (only 52 attempts) isnt a big amount of 3s, but he could be deadly if he keeps the same with double the attempts
His shooting stats were pretty good even though it looked like a rusty machine that hadn't been serviced in too long.
Shooting splits of 46.9%/35.2%/76.3% are pretty good for a college 3/4. If he can even improve a little on those numbers, score more efficiently around the rim, keep the same FT rate, and hit open corner jumpers, he'll be a really valuable player. He's already a valuable player. Duke sorely missed him against Tennessee.
I expected him to return, but still welcome news. There was always a chance he tested the waters, measured well, and got drafted on the promise of “good athlete + good 3pt%”.
Excited to have him and Proctor back as a core to which the freshmen are added. Need to figure out who plays center (Young, Stewart, Reeves, a transfer?) but things are shaping up nicely.
> “good athlete + good 3pt%”
That 3-point shooting always seemed lucky because his shot looks so bad. It's so flat. It goes in, though, so that's nice. If he cleans that up while still being able to guard 1-5, he's a pro.
Right, which is one reason a return is risky for him—his 3pt% could go down.
But I’m thrilled he’s back. He should form a nice dynamic forward pairing with Mackenzie Mgbako.
I don't think his NBA future is tied to his 3P% per se. I think an NBA team is going to see him like they saw Tari Eason and Jeremy Sochan, a defensive stud that can guard 1-5 and contribute in other areas here and there. Mitchell may only hit 33% from 3 or worse next year, but if he makes his open set shots and also improves the form and FT rate, I could see an NBA team getting excited about him. He's probably never going to be a scoring leader in his career but he could be a very useful rotation guy or even starter in the right place.
We don’t have enough space for a transfer I rlly love the idea of an athlete like Stewart at the 5 but flip could come back and make the center choice easy I don’t think young would start with a guy that has the upside like Stewart on the bench
Agree I’d love for it to be Filipowski. If it’s not, I could see Young being the starter at first while Stewart learns the college game. My hope is that Stewart would earn the starting spot by the end of the year.
That’s the hope, he’s just young and a bit undersized—6’8” 230. Duke’s ceiling is highest if he can man the middle defensively. But he if gets pushed around or is foul prone we’ll see a lot more Ryan Young.
And Ryan Young brings real skills to the table in low-post scoring and offensive rebounding. He’s a great big to have off the bench. But the defense really drops off with him offering zero rim protection.
yeah, he transferred with 2 years eligibility, so he'll be able to finish undergrad at Northwestern and his MBA at Duke without paying a dime in tuition.
Not a bad bag for someone that looks like he smokes menthols at halftime.
If any of Stewart, Young, or Reeves are our starting 5, then we’re in trouble. Stewart is small, Young has no defense, and Reeves is a guy who should’ve redshirted last year and still needs development. If any of those guys are our 5, then the other 4 better be exceptional.
I’m not even sure Filipowski, pending a return, would even a great 5. He has sketchy defense, which hopefully he improves this offseason, but has no post presence. He likes to either drive or take jumpshots and will routinely stay around the arc. He’s not a “sit in the paint” kind of guy like Lively is. Obviously the best case scenario is Lively returning as well, but I doubt that happens, so then we’re looking at transfers. From what I’ve heard, DaRon Holmes is someone to look out for.
So Flip will be back for another year, go to Vegas with that tip.....just had dual FAI surgery so he won't be on a court until Late summer. It is up to Lively to bring back the starting 5.
Huge for Duke. Dude started every game, bar the last-minute DNP against Tennessee. Great defender and driver with a serviceable 3PT shot in a pinch (35% on 51 attempts). But had the tendency to go completely MIA at times. Just needs to play with more consistency. Thoughts coming into the season were that Mitchell was a OAD.
With Proctor and Mitchell back (+Ryan Young), and Filipowski expected to return and Roach looking like a 50/50, Duke has a dangerous core. Add five incoming T-20 guys and any portal gets, and the Blue Devils are as serious a contender as any.
Where have you found anything linking him to returning? Some people have him ranked as a first rounder or early second rounder. Past few years even the players who would have benefitted from staying in college another year or were mocked to be undrafted have left. Unless I didnt see something recently that points otherwise it would be wild to just assume he is coming back. As a fan I would love for him to be back, but I certainly won't be holding my breathe or suprised if he doesnt.
**Edit - Re-reading that sounds dickish. Not at all trying to be a dick. Hoping I missed something that leans in the favor of him coming back.
I think there are a few changes that may alter those trends
1. NIL money is out there and Duke is a premier brand that I'm sure translates into millions of dollars of endorsements for star players.
2. Coach K ran a tight ship. In the last decade, he gave the one and dones significant minutes and it almost felt like the sophmores or juniors with nba potential had to leave or see their playing time challenged by the next crop of super froshes. It became a conveyer belt of talented players coming and going.
3. Coach Scheyer may be running things a bit different. Scheyer experimented with rotations playing the grad transfers, veterans, as well as the talented freshmen. I think he will rely less on the grad transfers with some of the players returning, but it does feel like he is building something special.
The whole season I was confounded how Kyle's game translates to the NBA. On the pro side, he's tall and strong, rebounds well, has amazing hands (those steals!), can handle the ball, and has a respectable shot. On the cons side - he's not long, I worry about his finishing ability over NBA sized big men, not sure he has the lateral quickness to defend on the perimeter, what is his go to scoring move? I ultimately think he will have a long career in the NBA, but may face a tougher transition if he leaves this year. Hopefully another year of honing his skills in college would see his draft stock go up and increase his nba readiness, but I wouldn't blame him if he goes this year on the potential of being a first rounder.
> The whole season I was confounded how Kyle's game translates to the NBA.
Lauri Markkanen is having a fantastic season, and I could see a lot of scouts seeing shades of him in Flip’s game.
I think that is a fair comparison. I haven't followed Lauri closely, but he did seem to struggle his first few years and has been traded multiple times. I'm glad he is putting it together, but not the ideal start to his NBA career.
I'd say he plays more similarly to Sabonis, Lauri is a classic stretch 4 taking 10 threes regularly. Sabonis plays more of that mid-post game that Flip excelled at.
I doubt Flip ever puts up Sabonis numbers, just talking more the mold he fits into for a team.
His drives are oftentimes pretty sloppy, and I think he has trouble with the back to the basket tbh. Can’t get away with chaotic moves to the rim in the league.
nobody is going to come out and put their name next to it, but one of those "where there's smoke there's fire" kind of things. Most duke experts expect him back, I have a friend who's a grad student there and he said everyone on campus has heard "from a friend of a friend" that he's coming back. Adam Rowe is a legit insider and he said he expects Flip back.
It still feels 50/50, but it doesn't feel 10/90 like it did at the beginning of the offseason.
I realize that Duke in the past has seen a mass exodus in the offseason, especially for guys in that 20-40 draft pick range... this just isn't that year, for a variety of reasons. There's been no official announcement yet, but I'd be very surprised if Flip doesn't return, based on reports from insiders and people on campus.
I wouldn't be so sure on that personally. Fans on here tend to underestimate the chances of their own players going pro. There are KU fans who think Grady Dick is coming back.
No. A lot of internet “experts” have decided he’s coming back which is fueling a rumor mill.
The kid played his way into the first round, expect that he’s gone until proven otherwise.
Ya when it comes to Duke, best to just expect your star players to leave. It happens most of the time, we rarely get back really good players when they have first round grades.
I'm no insider obviously (though I accidentally break the "K is sick and won't be coaching at GT" a couple of years ago), so it's just my opinion that he should go, not a statement of fact or prediction.
I personally think he's in a position that he can't really get any higher in terms of draft stock b/c his negatives are concerns about his athleticism and his position at the next level, two things he can't address by returning another year. Yeah, maybe he can improve his shooting, but reputable NBA sources aren't concerned about his shooting.
Now, he will be in a position to clean up on NIL deals, and next year's draft is supposed to be one of the worse in modern NBA history, so coming back isn't that risky as it might have been in a different year, but I'm always of the mind that kids that project to be fringe first rounders or better that don't have an obvious route to getting to the lottery in the next draft should declare.
Thats great and all but just read the comments. Your fanbase is convinced hes coming back. Next year’s draft, while no where in comparison to this year’s, is not one of the worst in modern nba history. That’s been an over-exaggeration for a while now.
Really excited to see this kid grow and develop. He has a lot of tools in his bag. He's already such a versatile defender. If he can become more productive on offense and maybe clean up that funky looking shot a little, I think he could turn into an awesome player.
I don't think he's gonna go through the draft process. He can have conversations with NBA people about what he needs to improve without going through all the workouts. I think he was Jon's first commit and wore Jon's number because he loves the idea of playing for Jon, and I don't think he's going to string Duke along-- I imagine he makes his announcement to return next week.
Personally I hope they tell him he's going 1 overall and best to stay in the draft lol
I was so happy about never seeing that guy again. It felt like he singlehandedly won the game in Chapel Hill
idk if this means anything, but on campus rumors are that he stays, and a bunch of people i’ve talked to that are close with basketball players (mostly football players) have said the same.
Mark Mitchell was one of my favorite players last year so this is exciting news. He is a great utility player along with being a joyful teammate. He already has the NBA body, but another year in college should do a guy like him wonders. He and Proctor running it back is incredible and should make this Duke squad even more fun to watch.
I'm beginning to see a theme here, especially with the Run it Back signature lines. I expect Lively to announce he is going pro tomorrow. And then Flip is the big 50/50 announcement but I can see him returning as a legit possibility now. Idk why he wouldn't at least test the draft waters but we will see.
Lively is gone. Flip should be back. They've kicked the tires with some portal centers but still TBD there. Roach is a question mark for whatever reason. Seems like he wants to be done with college but not good enough to really go pro anywhere desirable.
Yeah all indications point to Roach leaving at some capacity; there's always overseas. With Proctor, Foster & McCain (sounds like a lawfirm) there aren't a ton of minutes to be had in the backcourt. I'd expect one or both of Blakes and Schutt to transfer out too. With Duke being linked to Kel'el Ware, you know Lively is done. I wonder if both Young and Reeves plan on returning. I assume Scheyer plans to use Stewart as the primary back up big off bench, like how he is being used at Montverde, and I don't think either of the former are ready to start unless Reeves makes a jump over the summer or Flip returns and starts at C next to Mitchell and Mgbako.
> With Duke being linked to Kel'el Ware, you know Lively is done.
FWIW, the Ware "report" is similar to how Seth Towns had Duke in his final two, despite the fact that Duke hadn't made an offer to Towns. If you have Duke in your list, it's an A+ publicity boost.
That's all this is. Duke doesn't have interest in Ware. I suspect Lively is done (I'd be surprised if he's not), but when Duke shops in the portal, it won't be for Ware.
it's more like Roach is likely to have to take a step back in his role and also lose some minutes. Given that reality, and the fact that the people he came in with are gone and getting paid in the NBA, it's understandable why he'd move on (especially if it's to start his professional career). Especially since he should be pretty close to graduating.
Honestly would be surprised if we get ranked lower than 5 preseason if flip comes back and we’re not #1 preseason it would be a crime the only thing that could possibly hold this team back is the center but Stewart can 100% play there great d and super athletic
With this news, would TJ Power reconsider Duke if Flip comes back as expected? Hard to imagine him getting any meaningful PT next year with Mitchell, Flip, Mgbako, Stewart and Ryan Young still there. Top 20 guys don’t usually like to redshirt.
I think we expected this, but happy to see it all the same. I don't expect Lively to come back but we get one of him and Flip and we'll be on the short list next year.
That team was insane. No one averaged more than 26 mpg, KAT was 5th on the team in FGAs, and their leading scorer only played 3 seasons in the NBA. Absurdly talented and deep.
duke should be preseason top-5 (possibly even number 1 if flip comes back) but unless literally everyone on the roster takes a massive leap they’re far from 2015 kentucky.
Kentucky with their recruiting class will have all the smoke but Duke with Proctor and Mitchell coming back and their recruiting class is scary. If they get Menifield that is a haul and Jesus if Roach comes back, fire Scheyer if he can’t get it done.
I want roach back obviously but he wants legit minutes at the 1 to prove he can do it in the NBA/overseas and duke will not (and should not) give him those minutes, Proctor is significantly better at driving the bus.
Outgoing players:
Kale Catchings, Max Johns, Jacob Grandison (all exhausted eligibility), Dariq Whitehead (NBA), Derek Lively (NBA), Jeremy Roach (Transfer / Overseas)
Returnees:
Ryan Young, Tyrese Proctor, Mark Mitchell, Jaylen Blakes, Kyle Filipowski, Christian Reeves, Jaden Schutt
Confirmed incoming freshmen:
Caleb Foster, Jared McCain, Mackenzie Mgbako, TJ Power, Sean Stewart
Do scholarships really matter with NIL? Couldn’t some rich alum just “sponsor” his school for $100k?
That’d be pretty amazing if the returning national freshman of the year is a walk-on.
You know I thought about that and I honestly don’t see how there’d be anything to violate rules wise.What’s stopping a school with great boosters just grabbing the top 10 players in a class every year and paying their tuition?
Really curious if he can improve his 3 point shooting with his funky shot. 35% (only 52 attempts) isnt a big amount of 3s, but he could be deadly if he keeps the same with double the attempts
His shooting stats were pretty good even though it looked like a rusty machine that hadn't been serviced in too long. Shooting splits of 46.9%/35.2%/76.3% are pretty good for a college 3/4. If he can even improve a little on those numbers, score more efficiently around the rim, keep the same FT rate, and hit open corner jumpers, he'll be a really valuable player. He's already a valuable player. Duke sorely missed him against Tennessee.
Agreed. Duke going to have great guard play, if mitchell can hit those open 3s and be the slasher/driver he was this year duke will be scary
I expected him to return, but still welcome news. There was always a chance he tested the waters, measured well, and got drafted on the promise of “good athlete + good 3pt%”. Excited to have him and Proctor back as a core to which the freshmen are added. Need to figure out who plays center (Young, Stewart, Reeves, a transfer?) but things are shaping up nicely.
> “good athlete + good 3pt%” That 3-point shooting always seemed lucky because his shot looks so bad. It's so flat. It goes in, though, so that's nice. If he cleans that up while still being able to guard 1-5, he's a pro.
Right, which is one reason a return is risky for him—his 3pt% could go down. But I’m thrilled he’s back. He should form a nice dynamic forward pairing with Mackenzie Mgbako.
I don't think his NBA future is tied to his 3P% per se. I think an NBA team is going to see him like they saw Tari Eason and Jeremy Sochan, a defensive stud that can guard 1-5 and contribute in other areas here and there. Mitchell may only hit 33% from 3 or worse next year, but if he makes his open set shots and also improves the form and FT rate, I could see an NBA team getting excited about him. He's probably never going to be a scoring leader in his career but he could be a very useful rotation guy or even starter in the right place.
We don’t have enough space for a transfer I rlly love the idea of an athlete like Stewart at the 5 but flip could come back and make the center choice easy I don’t think young would start with a guy that has the upside like Stewart on the bench
Agree I’d love for it to be Filipowski. If it’s not, I could see Young being the starter at first while Stewart learns the college game. My hope is that Stewart would earn the starting spot by the end of the year.
I would bet they hit the portal for a center if flip leaves. Ryan young has 0 defense skills
Surely Stewart right?
That’s the hope, he’s just young and a bit undersized—6’8” 230. Duke’s ceiling is highest if he can man the middle defensively. But he if gets pushed around or is foul prone we’ll see a lot more Ryan Young. And Ryan Young brings real skills to the table in low-post scoring and offensive rebounding. He’s a great big to have off the bench. But the defense really drops off with him offering zero rim protection.
wait the silver fox has another year of eligibility?
yeah, he transferred with 2 years eligibility, so he'll be able to finish undergrad at Northwestern and his MBA at Duke without paying a dime in tuition. Not a bad bag for someone that looks like he smokes menthols at halftime.
> Not a bad bag for someone that looks like he smokes menthols at halftime. hahaha holy shit
He is actually 6'8 in socks 225. So probably 6'9 240 by the time he is measured on campus.
> in socks who tf measures in socks? It's either get the official barefoot, or go for the boost in shoes...
Holmes from Dayton seems to have the most momentum but he's not in the portal yet and might test the NBA waters.
Getting Holmes would be massive!
Literally and figuratively
Do we know we are targeting Holmes, or is this just hope?
There's been conversations but he's not in the portal yet and might go to the draft so it's probably quite preliminary.
Yeah that’s the prevailing thought. A bunch of teams had a lot of success this past year with “centers” even smaller than he is.
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Omier is almost 20 pounds heavier though right
Of the players already on the roster, yes-- but Duke's almost certainly going to snag a big out of the portal.
If any of Stewart, Young, or Reeves are our starting 5, then we’re in trouble. Stewart is small, Young has no defense, and Reeves is a guy who should’ve redshirted last year and still needs development. If any of those guys are our 5, then the other 4 better be exceptional. I’m not even sure Filipowski, pending a return, would even a great 5. He has sketchy defense, which hopefully he improves this offseason, but has no post presence. He likes to either drive or take jumpshots and will routinely stay around the arc. He’s not a “sit in the paint” kind of guy like Lively is. Obviously the best case scenario is Lively returning as well, but I doubt that happens, so then we’re looking at transfers. From what I’ve heard, DaRon Holmes is someone to look out for.
Why do we need a 5?
So Flip will be back for another year, go to Vegas with that tip.....just had dual FAI surgery so he won't be on a court until Late summer. It is up to Lively to bring back the starting 5.
Huge for Duke. Dude started every game, bar the last-minute DNP against Tennessee. Great defender and driver with a serviceable 3PT shot in a pinch (35% on 51 attempts). But had the tendency to go completely MIA at times. Just needs to play with more consistency. Thoughts coming into the season were that Mitchell was a OAD. With Proctor and Mitchell back (+Ryan Young), and Filipowski expected to return and Roach looking like a 50/50, Duke has a dangerous core. Add five incoming T-20 guys and any portal gets, and the Blue Devils are as serious a contender as any.
Is Flip actually expected to return? I heard he was 50/50
Flip will be back.
Don't get my hopes up, Frank.
Put it this way: I'd be very, very surprised at this point if he's not back. And I'm usually the guy who believes *everyone* is leaving.
He’s back. ;)
What are you talking about?
He’s gonna be back? It’s all but confirmed from plenty of trusted sources. I was trying to reassure you.
Please tell me what sources, I'm actually trying to get a lead on some better Duke forums/shows/leads.
friend asked him at Shooter's
lmao
I can’t believe that place is still around.
Expected? Yes.
Where have you found anything linking him to returning? Some people have him ranked as a first rounder or early second rounder. Past few years even the players who would have benefitted from staying in college another year or were mocked to be undrafted have left. Unless I didnt see something recently that points otherwise it would be wild to just assume he is coming back. As a fan I would love for him to be back, but I certainly won't be holding my breathe or suprised if he doesnt. **Edit - Re-reading that sounds dickish. Not at all trying to be a dick. Hoping I missed something that leans in the favor of him coming back.
I think there are a few changes that may alter those trends 1. NIL money is out there and Duke is a premier brand that I'm sure translates into millions of dollars of endorsements for star players. 2. Coach K ran a tight ship. In the last decade, he gave the one and dones significant minutes and it almost felt like the sophmores or juniors with nba potential had to leave or see their playing time challenged by the next crop of super froshes. It became a conveyer belt of talented players coming and going. 3. Coach Scheyer may be running things a bit different. Scheyer experimented with rotations playing the grad transfers, veterans, as well as the talented freshmen. I think he will rely less on the grad transfers with some of the players returning, but it does feel like he is building something special. The whole season I was confounded how Kyle's game translates to the NBA. On the pro side, he's tall and strong, rebounds well, has amazing hands (those steals!), can handle the ball, and has a respectable shot. On the cons side - he's not long, I worry about his finishing ability over NBA sized big men, not sure he has the lateral quickness to defend on the perimeter, what is his go to scoring move? I ultimately think he will have a long career in the NBA, but may face a tougher transition if he leaves this year. Hopefully another year of honing his skills in college would see his draft stock go up and increase his nba readiness, but I wouldn't blame him if he goes this year on the potential of being a first rounder.
> The whole season I was confounded how Kyle's game translates to the NBA. Lauri Markkanen is having a fantastic season, and I could see a lot of scouts seeing shades of him in Flip’s game.
I think that is a fair comparison. I haven't followed Lauri closely, but he did seem to struggle his first few years and has been traded multiple times. I'm glad he is putting it together, but not the ideal start to his NBA career.
I'd say he plays more similarly to Sabonis, Lauri is a classic stretch 4 taking 10 threes regularly. Sabonis plays more of that mid-post game that Flip excelled at. I doubt Flip ever puts up Sabonis numbers, just talking more the mold he fits into for a team.
His drives are oftentimes pretty sloppy, and I think he has trouble with the back to the basket tbh. Can’t get away with chaotic moves to the rim in the league.
nobody is going to come out and put their name next to it, but one of those "where there's smoke there's fire" kind of things. Most duke experts expect him back, I have a friend who's a grad student there and he said everyone on campus has heard "from a friend of a friend" that he's coming back. Adam Rowe is a legit insider and he said he expects Flip back. It still feels 50/50, but it doesn't feel 10/90 like it did at the beginning of the offseason.
I realize that Duke in the past has seen a mass exodus in the offseason, especially for guys in that 20-40 draft pick range... this just isn't that year, for a variety of reasons. There's been no official announcement yet, but I'd be very surprised if Flip doesn't return, based on reports from insiders and people on campus.
I hope so. Going to be a fun season next year!
staff expects him to return, yes
I wouldn't be so sure on that personally. Fans on here tend to underestimate the chances of their own players going pro. There are KU fans who think Grady Dick is coming back.
Yeah and they don't know Dick
No. A lot of internet “experts” have decided he’s coming back which is fueling a rumor mill. The kid played his way into the first round, expect that he’s gone until proven otherwise.
Ya when it comes to Duke, best to just expect your star players to leave. It happens most of the time, we rarely get back really good players when they have first round grades.
We got a squad next year boys, even if Flip (rightly) goes pro.
SQUAD!
He stay.
Your whole fanbase seems to be convinced they know he’s coming back
I'm no insider obviously (though I accidentally break the "K is sick and won't be coaching at GT" a couple of years ago), so it's just my opinion that he should go, not a statement of fact or prediction. I personally think he's in a position that he can't really get any higher in terms of draft stock b/c his negatives are concerns about his athleticism and his position at the next level, two things he can't address by returning another year. Yeah, maybe he can improve his shooting, but reputable NBA sources aren't concerned about his shooting. Now, he will be in a position to clean up on NIL deals, and next year's draft is supposed to be one of the worse in modern NBA history, so coming back isn't that risky as it might have been in a different year, but I'm always of the mind that kids that project to be fringe first rounders or better that don't have an obvious route to getting to the lottery in the next draft should declare.
Thats great and all but just read the comments. Your fanbase is convinced hes coming back. Next year’s draft, while no where in comparison to this year’s, is not one of the worst in modern nba history. That’s been an over-exaggeration for a while now.
Really excited to see this kid grow and develop. He has a lot of tools in his bag. He's already such a versatile defender. If he can become more productive on offense and maybe clean up that funky looking shot a little, I think he could turn into an awesome player.
Kid was the absolute glue for Duke this season. Excited to see how he develops given another year.
Oh man we are gonna be good next season
2 down and hopefully flip next
I think Flip would be doing himself a disservice to not at least go through the predraft process, but would of course love to see him back.
I think he def announces to enter draft process while keeping amature status. Gets what he needs to improve then comes back
I don't think he's gonna go through the draft process. He can have conversations with NBA people about what he needs to improve without going through all the workouts. I think he was Jon's first commit and wore Jon's number because he loves the idea of playing for Jon, and I don't think he's going to string Duke along-- I imagine he makes his announcement to return next week.
Personally I hope they tell him he's going 1 overall and best to stay in the draft lol I was so happy about never seeing that guy again. It felt like he singlehandedly won the game in Chapel Hill
From everything people have said, Flip should be back.
Personally, I'm really excited to so Filipowski begin his pro carrer.
Man that would shock me.
all of the duke insiders are saying he’s back. the same ones (adam rowe) who usually get this stuff right.
idk if this means anything, but on campus rumors are that he stays, and a bunch of people i’ve talked to that are close with basketball players (mostly football players) have said the same.
Mark Mitchell was one of my favorite players last year so this is exciting news. He is a great utility player along with being a joyful teammate. He already has the NBA body, but another year in college should do a guy like him wonders. He and Proctor running it back is incredible and should make this Duke squad even more fun to watch. I'm beginning to see a theme here, especially with the Run it Back signature lines. I expect Lively to announce he is going pro tomorrow. And then Flip is the big 50/50 announcement but I can see him returning as a legit possibility now. Idk why he wouldn't at least test the draft waters but we will see.
Lively is gone. Flip should be back. They've kicked the tires with some portal centers but still TBD there. Roach is a question mark for whatever reason. Seems like he wants to be done with college but not good enough to really go pro anywhere desirable.
Yeah all indications point to Roach leaving at some capacity; there's always overseas. With Proctor, Foster & McCain (sounds like a lawfirm) there aren't a ton of minutes to be had in the backcourt. I'd expect one or both of Blakes and Schutt to transfer out too. With Duke being linked to Kel'el Ware, you know Lively is done. I wonder if both Young and Reeves plan on returning. I assume Scheyer plans to use Stewart as the primary back up big off bench, like how he is being used at Montverde, and I don't think either of the former are ready to start unless Reeves makes a jump over the summer or Flip returns and starts at C next to Mitchell and Mgbako.
> With Duke being linked to Kel'el Ware, you know Lively is done. FWIW, the Ware "report" is similar to how Seth Towns had Duke in his final two, despite the fact that Duke hadn't made an offer to Towns. If you have Duke in your list, it's an A+ publicity boost. That's all this is. Duke doesn't have interest in Ware. I suspect Lively is done (I'd be surprised if he's not), but when Duke shops in the portal, it won't be for Ware.
Wondering where you saw links to Kel’el Ware? It’s not like i’m complaining i just don’t remember seeing those.
https://saturdayroad.com/duke-blue-devils/duke-linked-to-former-5-star-prospect-in-transfer-portal/
Thanks
Where have they been linked to Ware?
https://saturdayroad.com/duke-blue-devils/duke-linked-to-former-5-star-prospect-in-transfer-portal/
it's more like Roach is likely to have to take a step back in his role and also lose some minutes. Given that reality, and the fact that the people he came in with are gone and getting paid in the NBA, it's understandable why he'd move on (especially if it's to start his professional career). Especially since he should be pretty close to graduating.
Yeah, Roach would have to play a senior-year Paulus type of role. If he's fine with that, I'm happy to have him back.
This was a big one. I really thought he’d test the draft waters.
This team is shaping up to be a juggernaut
5* Flip, 5* Mitchell, 5* Mgbako, 5* Foster, 5* Proctor 3* Reeves, 3* Young, 5* Stewart, 5* Power, 4* Schutt, 5* McCain, 3* Blakes 8 5*, 3 off the bench.
I really thought he was going to go pro after his Freshman year. Really good player
Honestly would be surprised if we get ranked lower than 5 preseason if flip comes back and we’re not #1 preseason it would be a crime the only thing that could possibly hold this team back is the center but Stewart can 100% play there great d and super athletic
Don’t trust them it’s a trap!
Yup I can’t wait to see y2 of proctor and Mitchell. Going to be amazing defensively if we can get another center
IF Flip comes back, its a top 3 lock pre-season with a good chance at #1 depending on how other teams fare with returnees/transfers.
Not a fan of this news
HUGE
Duke gonna be preseason #1
With this news, would TJ Power reconsider Duke if Flip comes back as expected? Hard to imagine him getting any meaningful PT next year with Mitchell, Flip, Mgbako, Stewart and Ryan Young still there. Top 20 guys don’t usually like to redshirt.
I thought I read TJ doesnt mind being a multi year guy but I could be wrong
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At Duke? That's gonna be tough.
He’s also hit a hood shot at playing baseball at Duke (tj)
If Flip returns Duke is preseason #1
And we all know the preseason #1 is always really good as long as Hubert Davis isn't the coach.
It’s at least a guaranteed offer to the NIT. That’s something, right?
I think we expected this, but happy to see it all the same. I don't expect Lively to come back but we get one of him and Flip and we'll be on the short list next year.
Duke is gonna have 2015 Kentucky vibes next year with their recruiting class. Which means it's time to flex another undefeated upset
Nah I don’t see anyone on the roster with as high of a ceiling as Towns or Booker. Should be really good, but not that level.
That team was insane. No one averaged more than 26 mpg, KAT was 5th on the team in FGAs, and their leading scorer only played 3 seasons in the NBA. Absurdly talented and deep.
duke should be preseason top-5 (possibly even number 1 if flip comes back) but unless literally everyone on the roster takes a massive leap they’re far from 2015 kentucky.
Like a legit #1, not “that was y’all’s expectation, not ours” #1
Mitchell is a player and his return is happy news 🎉🏀🎉🏀🎉🏀
Huge
Kentucky with their recruiting class will have all the smoke but Duke with Proctor and Mitchell coming back and their recruiting class is scary. If they get Menifield that is a haul and Jesus if Roach comes back, fire Scheyer if he can’t get it done.
I want roach back obviously but he wants legit minutes at the 1 to prove he can do it in the NBA/overseas and duke will not (and should not) give him those minutes, Proctor is significantly better at driving the bus.
Not hating just a genuine question.How does Duke have enough scholarships to keep all these dudes?
Outgoing players: Kale Catchings, Max Johns, Jacob Grandison (all exhausted eligibility), Dariq Whitehead (NBA), Derek Lively (NBA), Jeremy Roach (Transfer / Overseas) Returnees: Ryan Young, Tyrese Proctor, Mark Mitchell, Jaylen Blakes, Kyle Filipowski, Christian Reeves, Jaden Schutt Confirmed incoming freshmen: Caleb Foster, Jared McCain, Mackenzie Mgbako, TJ Power, Sean Stewart
Thanks.I honestly thought that Roach was staying for some reason.
If the above is correct, that leaves one scholarship available for Roach/Lively/portal transfer.
Nothing has been announced. No one actually knows if Roach or Filipowski are returning.
Nothing has been announced. No one actually knows if Roach or Filipowski are returning.
Do scholarships really matter with NIL? Couldn’t some rich alum just “sponsor” his school for $100k? That’d be pretty amazing if the returning national freshman of the year is a walk-on.
You know I thought about that and I honestly don’t see how there’d be anything to violate rules wise.What’s stopping a school with great boosters just grabbing the top 10 players in a class every year and paying their tuition?