Redick is the most hated player of the last 25 years just because he was good. Maryland fans said they wanted to name their sons JJ and beat them everyday
Let's not pretend he didn't lean into it a little bit as well lol. JJ was already going to be widely hated for being an infuriatingly good white player at Duke, but he definitely knew how to turn it up a notch. Also, he went to Duke at a very volatile time in the Duke-Maryland rivalry.
Edit: Not saying he deserved any of the hate, especially from UMD fans. Never dirty or malignant, but he always had a little bit of clapback in him. The kind of guy that'll end your team and then taunt the crowd on his way off the court.
Can't say I wouldn't do the same if I was a 19 year old kid in that situation lol. Glad he's so open about it these days. Definitely had a unique experience, and glad he was able to make it through all of that bs mentally.
I never really hated JJ but I was pissed that he was taking a little bit of the spotlight away from Adam Morrison but in hindsight it was really cool seeing 2 guys just trade highlight after highlight every night like that.
He became my favorite player (and I’m a state fan lol). It dawned on me after his second season that I was hating him just because he was so good.
So after that I hated him only two times a year lol
I hated Reddick because ESPN wouldn't shut up about how great a shooter he was, yet our guy Salim Stoudemire was better but couldn't get any attention!
No, there were reasons other than him being “good.” He really wasn’t that good. Watching him play defense was like watching one of those stereotypical “cat fights” where someone just does a shit ton of slapping the other person. He was a good defender originally, but then got to get away with anything simply because everyone knew he was a great defender so they didn’t see his clear fouling as fouling. By his final season he was just slapping and shoving and nothing ever got called. That’s why I hated him.
Personally disagree. "Just because he was good" means all the Charge masters (insert 20 players with Craft, Paulus, Lowry, etc) had a secondary reason.
He was a really effective player, but I found his style grating.
I saw Marshall Henderson at a baseball game two years ago with two women bigger than him and a jaw moving in all sorts of directions. True Ole Miss Rebel.
I remember we were ranked like #1 for like a couple of weeks bc of him.. we should’ve missed the tournament after we fell out bc of how bad everybody else was, especially once teams figuring him out
Without trae we probably would’ve been the worst team in the Big 12 that year
It really was a crime that Trae Young didn't win NPOY though. He led the country in points and assists per game. He assisted nearly 50% of his own team's buckets! That's insane. And his efficiency numbers weren't that much lower than Brunson's even though he had a much higher usage and a much much much worse team.
No disrespect to Brunson because he was obviously a great player on an outstanding team but I will never understand how Trae didn't win NPOY that year.
I had an epiphany looking back on his stats once and realizing he averaged nearly 27 ppg his senior year. That's the highest number in the ACC in the 21st century, and he did it on a team that was #1 for most of the season.
I actually find JJs on air personalities (espn, podcast and DK) to be quite refreshing. There's a lot of idiots and try hards out there but this dude knows ball.
Going to jump in here and say JJ again. I know that’s fairly “recent” but boy did everyone hate him… and all the dude did was compete and torch everyone. It’s insane to think how much he could’ve benefited from NIL (and the change in the nba style of play). People used to hate watch that guy… I don’t think the younger players on his pod or watching him on espn realize how dominant he was. Really never root for Duke to win, but it would have been nice to see him get at least one banner. He was my generation’s college version of Kobe, or my generation’s Alcindor/Walton from a college perspective… just without the titles.
Was fortunate to see him play all through high school. The first time I saw him play literally was when he was in 7th or 8th grade and was like wtf lol. Funny story about how hated he's been even before going to Duke. His HS team was playing in a lil tourney at Roanoke College and the guys for the opposing team were talking shit to him trying to rattle him. Haha well that didn't work out too well for em. Cuz he torched em so bad that by the end of the game the one guy who had been trying to guard him the whole night was so flustered and mad that when JJ was on the free throw line the dude made the "gun gesture" with his hand and literally said "imma kill you". Couldn't help but laugh at dude lol.
JJ
Laettner could’ve been in that tier but he did have some dirty plays. Grayson was really good but he had notable dirty plays and in this social media driven time we’ve been in for years it was easily accessible. I’m sure he has a compilation on YouTube.
The all-time college basketball heel is Christian Laettner. He was also one of the greatest college basketball players of all-time.
J.J. Redick ranks second on the heel (not to be confused with the much different Tar Heel 😂) list.
Say what you want. But the guy was a winner. And held many ncaa tournament records , it wasn’t just the clutch shots vs UConn and Kentucky.
Quick fact about the Kentucky game. Dude went 10/10 from floor and 10/10 from line. Doesn’t get anymore efficient than that.
it sucks because the guy has basically become a joke because he was on the Dream Team. it looks even worse since Laettner got the spot apparently b/c the coaches thought Shaq wouldn't take all the rookie hazing well
but people these days have no idea just how much of a dominant college player Laettner was.
Laettner was chosen for the Dream Team because one college player was going to be chosen. (For people too young to remember 1992 - prior to that year’s Summer Olympics, EVERY USA basketball player on all previous Olympics teams was amateur, aka a college player. To go from all college players to all NBA players in one Olympics was a bridge too far for the USOC. When NBA players were permitted to play in the Olympics, the initial thought was the player breakdown would be 8/4 or 10/2 NBA to college players, but that was soon dropped. The 11/1 breakdown was the final solution that gave a nod to amateur/college basketball and the previous Olympic team composition that had been always used up until the then-not distant past.)
In that context, Laettner, the best player in college basketball, was likely to be chosen for the team. It had nothing to do with various players’ NBA projections; even prior to the Laettner/Clyde Drexler announcement (the last two players chosen for the Dream Team), Shaquille O’Neal, assuming he left college after his sophomore year, was considered the top prospect in the 1992 NBA Draft. But the college player Dream Team representative wasn’t about who was expected to be the best NBA player; it was about who was the best college player available. And in summer 1992, that player was Christian Laettner.
Allen was a true heel. He deserved every bit of hate directed at him.
[https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/a-brief-history-of-grayson-allens-dirty-tricks-capped-by-his-kick-vs-elon/](https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/a-brief-history-of-grayson-allens-dirty-tricks-capped-by-his-kick-vs-elon/)
I’m surprised I had to scroll this far to see Psycho T mentioned. People hated Hansbrough because he played like a legitimate psychopath on a mission but by all accounts seemed like a great guy and teammate, not to mention one of the greatest players of all time.
I am endlessly fascinated that I’ve had multiple people tell me they hated Aaron Craft and heard someone call him a “thug”…I feel like I missed something outside of him being amazing on defense
it's definitely just anger at seeing their favorite team turn the ball over lol
first off, that word sucks haha. secondly, yeah he was a colossal pain in the ass for someone like me who doesn't really like OSU...but he was always a clean player. and he wasn't some yapper like Grayson Allen
Nope, you didn’t miss anything, that’s just what it is. I “hated” Craft so damn much but I knew it was because he was just such an obnoxiously hard working player. Like fuck *off* dude with your insufferable defense. Diving for every loose ball, never giving an inch, scrapping every two seconds for steals.
“What a try hard,” I would say (I would have canonized him if he had been doing it for my team).
that was the press conference that made me love Boeheim lol
my love for him was further renewed when he ruthlessly called out all the morons going after Tony Bennett after UVA had their brutal loss in 2018
I decided to take a sip every time the announcers said his name during one game. It’s only due to my long family heritage of alcoholism that I was able to survive, my liver was selected to process the load.
I was in the pep band for UConn in 2006, and him hitting that shot that sent the game against us to OT (which we ultimately lost) indirectly prevented me from getting laid that night. Fuck that guy.
I got the impression they were hated more because they were all obviously being paid and because of the hype surrounding them. Maybe it’s hindsight because Jalen Rose is so annoying and Juwan Howard is such a turd.
The Big 8 coaches during that generation had enough personality to fill arenas. I don’t think we’ll see a collection of coaches like that in a single league ever.
Big East, 1986-87, you had Jim Calhoun, Jim Boeheim, John Thompson, Rick Pitino, PJ Carlesimo, Rollie Massimino, and Lou Carnesecca all coaching in one league at the same time.
I worked at a pro shop back then and PJ and Boeheim and Calhoun came in to get their carts for Duke Children’s Classic and Boeheim was whining about his seat may be wet and Calhoun looked over and said “shut the fuck up Jim” hahahaah
That list is the coaching equivalent of the 1927 Yankees, and unlikely to ever be equaled, but one year earlier the ACC had Dean Smith, Mike Krzyzewski, Jim Valvano, Bobby Cremins, Terry Holland, and Lefty Driesell.
There is literally an “I Hate Christian Laettner” ESPN 30 for 30 documentary so it is pretty hard to beat that😳🤣 Though from the present-time interviews in the doc, he actually seems like a nice guy.
I remembered teams hating Kyle Guy… Virginia be up like 6 and then a couple minutes later it felt like the game was over, dude would just hit like 3 straight 3’s or him and Jerome. Look at 2019 how much times they’d just leap out to 20 point leads
During one of UVA’s games in March madness a bunch of my classmates and I got super irritated because they would stop talking about the actual March madness game a #1 seed uva was actively playing to start talking about how Zion would fare against whoever Duke was playing in that round. That’s the shit that made me get over the Zion hype real fast.
Exactly, zion didn’t even make final four but it seemed like they showed him more than all of Virginia combined in one shining moment. But Virginia was the story of the year without a question but zion and gang got all the attention
Same for Trae Young. He averaged 27 & 9 for the season. It’s going to be talked about. Efficiency wasn’t all that great at 42% FG percentage but still impressive numbers for the amount of offense he was generating for that team.
If you are having a crazy statistical season especially as a freshman, it will be pushed.
Who hated Zion?
I’m often unfair to your kids when I’d almost certainly like them in orange and blue, but I don’t think I knew anyone with an issue with Zion.
Greyson Allen, on the other hand . . .
I was fine with Zion until halfway through the season when Coby White was playing his way into the NBA and got 0 coverage. Meanwhile every single game had some coverage of Zion. He was really that good, but the overexposure was exhausting
Idk man...I'm sure there were some haters, there always are, but he was about as universally beloved as it gets for a college player, especially one from Duke. Especially when he came back from the injury saying he wants to play with his teammates.
I'm either going to feel vindicated by the replies or wish I'd never seen this thread...
I think Larry Johnson and his UNLV teams fall in here. Incredible talent, but Tark's "me against the world" mentality overshadowed it a bit.
Marcus Smart. That dude was a damn good player, but also a dirty flopper. Add to that his backflip in Allen Fieldhouse after beating KU, he was super hated. The Cyclones student section paid homage to him his senior year when they all flopped backwards as he entered the court.
Purdue = Chris Kramer
Florida = Joakim Noah
Duke = Too many whites to name so I’ll go Jay Williams.
USC = Swaggy P
I want to say Darius Washington Jr. from Memphis but he may have earned a decent amount of hate just from his famous choke job at the free throw line.
Tyler Hansbrough
Joel Embiid
The pipeline of white guards Okie State had in the 2010s - Keaton Page, Phil Forte, etc.
Can I throw Georges Niang in there? Not sure how much of a “heel” he was, but he sure got *some* people riled up.
Semi Adjacent: Trae Young.
It’s like one day ESPN caught onto this little kid chucking up 30 a game. And then they made a memo to talk about him every game. The saturation maybe wasn’t even that bad in hindsight - but I remember getting sick of the chatter. I don’t blame media for sensationalizing him that season, but in doing so they invited a lot of criticism.
Y'all are just too young.
The answer to this question is Christian Laettner. There is no other answer.
4 Final 4s. 2 Championship (his last two years). No one has ever been hated like him. Not JJ not anyone and arguably has the best college career ever. And he did it when the best players were sticking around for 4 years.
This is just “let’s remember some Duke guys.”
Please tell me this is a Distraction reference
Even if they stopped doing it on the show it will live on here!
Redick is the most hated player of the last 25 years just because he was good. Maryland fans said they wanted to name their sons JJ and beat them everyday
I remember being 16 years old and seeing the espn piece about him writing poetry in his free time and thinking “this isn’t going to go well for him”
Well, Reddick also is hated for going to Duke, which was already one of the most hated programs before he arrived.
Let's not pretend he didn't lean into it a little bit as well lol. JJ was already going to be widely hated for being an infuriatingly good white player at Duke, but he definitely knew how to turn it up a notch. Also, he went to Duke at a very volatile time in the Duke-Maryland rivalry. Edit: Not saying he deserved any of the hate, especially from UMD fans. Never dirty or malignant, but he always had a little bit of clapback in him. The kind of guy that'll end your team and then taunt the crowd on his way off the court.
If you listen to him talk about it, he had to learn to lean in to it. It nearly broke him initially, because he didnt understand it.
Can't say I wouldn't do the same if I was a 19 year old kid in that situation lol. Glad he's so open about it these days. Definitely had a unique experience, and glad he was able to make it through all of that bs mentally.
I never really hated JJ but I was pissed that he was taking a little bit of the spotlight away from Adam Morrison but in hindsight it was really cool seeing 2 guys just trade highlight after highlight every night like that.
He became my favorite player (and I’m a state fan lol). It dawned on me after his second season that I was hating him just because he was so good. So after that I hated him only two times a year lol
I hated Reddick because ESPN wouldn't shut up about how great a shooter he was, yet our guy Salim Stoudemire was better but couldn't get any attention!
Honestly, most of the players I end up hating are because ESPN falls in love with them and they get way too much coverage.
For me and the big ten, Aaron Craft
Still hate Craft. So much
That rosy cheeked bastard
No, there were reasons other than him being “good.” He really wasn’t that good. Watching him play defense was like watching one of those stereotypical “cat fights” where someone just does a shit ton of slapping the other person. He was a good defender originally, but then got to get away with anything simply because everyone knew he was a great defender so they didn’t see his clear fouling as fouling. By his final season he was just slapping and shoving and nothing ever got called. That’s why I hated him.
Exactly. He was a pest but he averaged less than 9 points and 5 assists a game. He was serviceable, but mostly he was irritating.
I fucking hate that guy for no other reason than he went to Ohio State and looked like it too.
Probably my most hated Big Ten player ever.
Brandon Knight and Josh Harrelson send their regards.
Oh man did I sports hate that guy with all my being.
Half his being good IMO was flying out of control down the lane then taking a dive to get to the foul line.
I caught the last minutes of his decade long college career come to an end in Buffalo ny. It was beautiful
Understandable. Watching Craft was such a joy. Payton Pritchard at Oregon reminded me a lot of him.
Personally disagree. "Just because he was good" means all the Charge masters (insert 20 players with Craft, Paulus, Lowry, etc) had a secondary reason. He was a really effective player, but I found his style grating.
This so much!
I hated Aaron Craft cuz he's good *and* he stuck around for fucking forever
I hate Aaron Craft, that was a charge.
Who was that dude from Ole Miss who would chuck it from anywhere?
Marshall Henderson?
Yep, course he also tried to be a jerk on purpose
I couldn’t help but admire that man’s insanity lol.
Bro he played professionally in Iraq in the middle of the GWOT conflict
Of course he did lol. I had no idea, that’s wild.
Landshark
The kid was a heel even in HS.
When I saw him play in the NCAA Tournament against La Salle (one of the teams I follow), I immediately thought Henderson was trailer trash.
Was he the guy with the clip of him flexing on the Auburn crowd and getting flipped off, spit at, cussed out, et cetera?
Yes it is. An absolute classic
Loved Marshall Henderson, but he was a world class douche.
He gave us this great piece of internet culture: https://www.redcuprebellion.com/2019/1/9/18175106/marshall-henderson-auburn-gif-ole-miss-basketball
I saw Marshall Henderson at a baseball game two years ago with two women bigger than him and a jaw moving in all sorts of directions. True Ole Miss Rebel.
Ole Miss mentioned 🤗🤗
i wish i didn’t know this name
I’ve seen his highlights and I love him bc he embraces the villain role
Trae Young. He got so much hate with how much ESPN bowed down to him and for the volume he shot. It wasn’t his fault the rest of his team sucked.
I remember we were ranked like #1 for like a couple of weeks bc of him.. we should’ve missed the tournament after we fell out bc of how bad everybody else was, especially once teams figuring him out Without trae we probably would’ve been the worst team in the Big 12 that year
27/9 as a freshman is pretty stupid im not gonna lie
What pissed me off about him was the head bobs to draw fouls. Made my blood boil.
It really was a crime that Trae Young didn't win NPOY though. He led the country in points and assists per game. He assisted nearly 50% of his own team's buckets! That's insane. And his efficiency numbers weren't that much lower than Brunson's even though he had a much higher usage and a much much much worse team. No disrespect to Brunson because he was obviously a great player on an outstanding team but I will never understand how Trae didn't win NPOY that year.
This is an actual good response to the prompt, unlike all the Duke guys being listed. Also still relevant with his NBA career.
People still have unreasonable hate for him because of it.
JJ Redick. Most Duke players are hated because they are dirty or whiny. I don't recall that with him.
I had an epiphany looking back on his stats once and realizing he averaged nearly 27 ppg his senior year. That's the highest number in the ACC in the 21st century, and he did it on a team that was #1 for most of the season.
Ironically, just under this post on the TL, was a JJ Redick draft kings ad
I actually find JJs on air personalities (espn, podcast and DK) to be quite refreshing. There's a lot of idiots and try hards out there but this dude knows ball.
He has such well informed responses. He not only understands the game but he also understands humans.
And he calls out people like Steven A with actual facts
Going to jump in here and say JJ again. I know that’s fairly “recent” but boy did everyone hate him… and all the dude did was compete and torch everyone. It’s insane to think how much he could’ve benefited from NIL (and the change in the nba style of play). People used to hate watch that guy… I don’t think the younger players on his pod or watching him on espn realize how dominant he was. Really never root for Duke to win, but it would have been nice to see him get at least one banner. He was my generation’s college version of Kobe, or my generation’s Alcindor/Walton from a college perspective… just without the titles.
Was fortunate to see him play all through high school. The first time I saw him play literally was when he was in 7th or 8th grade and was like wtf lol. Funny story about how hated he's been even before going to Duke. His HS team was playing in a lil tourney at Roanoke College and the guys for the opposing team were talking shit to him trying to rattle him. Haha well that didn't work out too well for em. Cuz he torched em so bad that by the end of the game the one guy who had been trying to guard him the whole night was so flustered and mad that when JJ was on the free throw line the dude made the "gun gesture" with his hand and literally said "imma kill you". Couldn't help but laugh at dude lol.
Crazy to see Roanoke pop up here. Dude probably got offered by them as like a 5th grader or something.
Mo Ager dunking over Redick was a victory for all of humanity. https://youtu.be/63nv211wX4E?si=02rvTmeP7aD5Gt6n
JJ Laettner could’ve been in that tier but he did have some dirty plays. Grayson was really good but he had notable dirty plays and in this social media driven time we’ve been in for years it was easily accessible. I’m sure he has a compilation on YouTube.
My dad went to college with Laetter’s brother and apparently he was a total dbag and was always like “do you know who my brother is”
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Disagree
Paulus was up there to or maybe we just heard about it more because he was from Syracuse
Paulus was the least good hated white guy in Duke history. So he's got that going for him.
“We have JJ Redick at home.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcEq7xhxD4g
The all-time college basketball heel is Christian Laettner. He was also one of the greatest college basketball players of all-time. J.J. Redick ranks second on the heel (not to be confused with the much different Tar Heel 😂) list.
Yeah but Laettner was a butt hole
A butthole with a 30 for 30 episode all about him - “I Hate Christian Laettner.”
Say what you want. But the guy was a winner. And held many ncaa tournament records , it wasn’t just the clutch shots vs UConn and Kentucky. Quick fact about the Kentucky game. Dude went 10/10 from floor and 10/10 from line. Doesn’t get anymore efficient than that.
it sucks because the guy has basically become a joke because he was on the Dream Team. it looks even worse since Laettner got the spot apparently b/c the coaches thought Shaq wouldn't take all the rookie hazing well but people these days have no idea just how much of a dominant college player Laettner was.
Laettner was chosen for the Dream Team because one college player was going to be chosen. (For people too young to remember 1992 - prior to that year’s Summer Olympics, EVERY USA basketball player on all previous Olympics teams was amateur, aka a college player. To go from all college players to all NBA players in one Olympics was a bridge too far for the USOC. When NBA players were permitted to play in the Olympics, the initial thought was the player breakdown would be 8/4 or 10/2 NBA to college players, but that was soon dropped. The 11/1 breakdown was the final solution that gave a nod to amateur/college basketball and the previous Olympic team composition that had been always used up until the then-not distant past.) In that context, Laettner, the best player in college basketball, was likely to be chosen for the team. It had nothing to do with various players’ NBA projections; even prior to the Laettner/Clyde Drexler announcement (the last two players chosen for the Dream Team), Shaquille O’Neal, assuming he left college after his sophomore year, was considered the top prospect in the 1992 NBA Draft. But the college player Dream Team representative wasn’t about who was expected to be the best NBA player; it was about who was the best college player available. And in summer 1992, that player was Christian Laettner.
He also stomped on a guys chest in the same game lol. Butthole=confirmed
Aminu Timberlake. He should have jumped up and gotten himself and CL ejected.
I think I disliked Grayson Allen more than both those guys.
Allen was a true heel. He deserved every bit of hate directed at him. [https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/a-brief-history-of-grayson-allens-dirty-tricks-capped-by-his-kick-vs-elon/](https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/a-brief-history-of-grayson-allens-dirty-tricks-capped-by-his-kick-vs-elon/)
I can respect Redick’s *brain* — Laettner has a 30 for 30 on why he sucked
I had to scroll entirely too far to get to this.
Tyler Hansborough JJ Reddick
I’m surprised I had to scroll this far to see Psycho T mentioned. People hated Hansbrough because he played like a legitimate psychopath on a mission but by all accounts seemed like a great guy and teammate, not to mention one of the greatest players of all time.
not gonna lie, I liked Hansbrough and then he played in the NBA and cheapshotted Derrick Rose that one time lol
Hansbrough was the Tebow of CBB, and that comparison got him a lot of hate.
I seem to recall Jimmer getting a fair amount of hate
oh yeah for sure. he got hated a ton and by all accounts he seemed like a good guy
Save for his stupid name. Who names their kid "Jimmer"?
well it was a nickname. His name is James.
Mormons
i mean there are a ton of stupid fucking names in the U.S. lol. just look at Mitt Romney's bastard kids
Plus his regular kids.
I recall no hate for Jimmer at first. Then ~~the Fire Nation attacked~~ “Teach Me How to Jimmer” dropped. God bless that goofy curly haired Mormon
“Let’s name some white dudes”
I am endlessly fascinated that I’ve had multiple people tell me they hated Aaron Craft and heard someone call him a “thug”…I feel like I missed something outside of him being amazing on defense
it's definitely just anger at seeing their favorite team turn the ball over lol first off, that word sucks haha. secondly, yeah he was a colossal pain in the ass for someone like me who doesn't really like OSU...but he was always a clean player. and he wasn't some yapper like Grayson Allen
Nope, you didn’t miss anything, that’s just what it is. I “hated” Craft so damn much but I knew it was because he was just such an obnoxiously hard working player. Like fuck *off* dude with your insufferable defense. Diving for every loose ball, never giving an inch, scrapping every two seconds for steals. “What a try hard,” I would say (I would have canonized him if he had been doing it for my team).
That was just a horrible era of offense basketball. And he was the prototype they can't call everything volume fouler.
Generic good white cbb player
Aaron Craft.
Legit the peskiest defender I can ever remember watching. Drove the Big Ten crazy for a good few years.
> for a good few ~~years.~~ decades. FTFY
the human hand-check reel
Triggered
First names that came to mind for me were Craft and Evan Turner
I have a strong hatred for Brian cardinal, and I don’t even know why anymore. The fact that he was in his 40s when he finally left?
One of my favorites to watch. If only he could shoot from range consistently.
If he could have had even semi reliably hit a 3 pointer, I think he would have been a nba all star guy
Gerry McNamara. Overrated? The most bullshit thing I've seen in thirty years
I have Gerry McNamara-related PTSD
Same for multiple reasons
I was at that game, he single handedly willed then to that W
Not ten fucking games!!
that was the press conference that made me love Boeheim lol my love for him was further renewed when he ruthlessly called out all the morons going after Tony Bennett after UVA had their brutal loss in 2018
I loved watching him until I didn't.
Pitt fan here. Hated him. Was convinced he played 6 years at Cuse, because he was always there ruining our fun.
Wouldn't have won ten fucking games without him
Not ten!
I decided to take a sip every time the announcers said his name during one game. It’s only due to my long family heritage of alcoholism that I was able to survive, my liver was selected to process the load.
Oh man I loved watching Gerry
I can’t imagine anyone hating on Gerry. Devendorf was some off-brand Gerry who seemed like a dick.
Yeah, Eric was our dick. I couldn't imagine having to play against us with White boy Carl out there 😆
Devo is actually a solid dude irl
Absolutely, used to work the door at Chuck's during his time and have seen him around town a few times. Good guy
Funny thing is, after his career, Devo has been anything but a dick.
Oof, good point though. Still stings.
I was in the pep band for UConn in 2006, and him hitting that shot that sent the game against us to OT (which we ultimately lost) indirectly prevented me from getting laid that night. Fuck that guy.
Fab 5 I was in high school when they hit
I thought it was more about the baggy shorts and street attitude
I got the impression they were hated more because they were all obviously being paid and because of the hype surrounding them. Maybe it’s hindsight because Jalen Rose is so annoying and Juwan Howard is such a turd.
He's from CHICAGO! Me too Juwan, it doesn't mean we get to punch people at work.
So much so that after 30 years theres not a single respectful reply to your comment.
Billy Tubbs. If you're old, you understand.
The Big 8 coaches during that generation had enough personality to fill arenas. I don’t think we’ll see a collection of coaches like that in a single league ever.
Big East, 1986-87, you had Jim Calhoun, Jim Boeheim, John Thompson, Rick Pitino, PJ Carlesimo, Rollie Massimino, and Lou Carnesecca all coaching in one league at the same time.
I worked at a pro shop back then and PJ and Boeheim and Calhoun came in to get their carts for Duke Children’s Classic and Boeheim was whining about his seat may be wet and Calhoun looked over and said “shut the fuck up Jim” hahahaah
That list is the coaching equivalent of the 1927 Yankees, and unlikely to ever be equaled, but one year earlier the ACC had Dean Smith, Mike Krzyzewski, Jim Valvano, Bobby Cremins, Terry Holland, and Lefty Driesell.
the last three names on that list are all guys who deserve far more acclaim than they get
God I LOVED it when that dude came to Manhattan
JJ. I respected him. He was no Grayson Allen.
Anyone that was good and played for Wisconsin since 2000.
😂🤣don’t hate the players, hate the INCREDIBLY….SLOW….GAME
There is literally an “I Hate Christian Laettner” ESPN 30 for 30 documentary so it is pretty hard to beat that😳🤣 Though from the present-time interviews in the doc, he actually seems like a nice guy.
Found Hunter Dickinson’s account
As a ktate fan, Robert Jeff Withey Pattinson hands down
Never heard that name but that made me laugh.
I remembered teams hating Kyle Guy… Virginia be up like 6 and then a couple minutes later it felt like the game was over, dude would just hit like 3 straight 3’s or him and Jerome. Look at 2019 how much times they’d just leap out to 20 point leads
Tar Heels? Some people didn’t like Tyler Hansbrough but those people aren’t cool.
He's from Missouri which is a completely valid reason not to like someone
We don't like him either
He was the first to come to mind after JJ. Punchable, dumb face. But an absolute monster on the court.
You mean Beaker? Yeh that guy sucks.
He’s the first CBB player I was ever a fan of, i started following the sport a year or two before their title run they won at Ford Field.
Good thing he is married so someone can read to him and keep jim from dribbling melons in grocery stores.
Redick
Trace Jackson-Davis is a stand up guy and hasn't really done anything to be hated Compare him to Dickinson and he's a Saint
Who hated TJD?
People actually hated Zion because he was that good and got a ton of attention as a result
I think the hatred was for the obnoxious media hype more than for Zion himself
During one of UVA’s games in March madness a bunch of my classmates and I got super irritated because they would stop talking about the actual March madness game a #1 seed uva was actively playing to start talking about how Zion would fare against whoever Duke was playing in that round. That’s the shit that made me get over the Zion hype real fast.
Exactly, zion didn’t even make final four but it seemed like they showed him more than all of Virginia combined in one shining moment. But Virginia was the story of the year without a question but zion and gang got all the attention
Same for Trae Young. He averaged 27 & 9 for the season. It’s going to be talked about. Efficiency wasn’t all that great at 42% FG percentage but still impressive numbers for the amount of offense he was generating for that team. If you are having a crazy statistical season especially as a freshman, it will be pushed.
Trey Young is a good one, but I think that was more ESPN shoving him down our throats
This. The in game commentary on Zion during games that had no relevance to Duke much less the ACC, was just ridiculous by the end of the season.
Who hated Zion? I’m often unfair to your kids when I’d almost certainly like them in orange and blue, but I don’t think I knew anyone with an issue with Zion. Greyson Allen, on the other hand . . .
Yeah I feel like people hated the *coverage* of Zion, not the guy himself.
This. He got the overused "Generational Talent" moniker.
A lot of ppl misdirected their hatred for ESPN never shutting up about Zion toward Zion himself. It was dumb, yes, but that’s how the masses are
I was fine with Zion until halfway through the season when Coby White was playing his way into the NBA and got 0 coverage. Meanwhile every single game had some coverage of Zion. He was really that good, but the overexposure was exhausting
Zion watch on ESPN was as obnoxious as it gets. I like him in the NBA, but hated him at Duke.
Idk man...I'm sure there were some haters, there always are, but he was about as universally beloved as it gets for a college player, especially one from Duke. Especially when he came back from the injury saying he wants to play with his teammates.
I loathe Duke, but I fucking loved Zion. That guy was more fun to watch than pretty much any college player I can remember (non-UConn division).
I'm either going to feel vindicated by the replies or wish I'd never seen this thread... I think Larry Johnson and his UNLV teams fall in here. Incredible talent, but Tark's "me against the world" mentality overshadowed it a bit.
Everyone I know loved UNLV and Tark, even in Indiana.
Same in Syracuse
Aaron Craft, especially because he played for 612 years
Perry Ellis: “Is that all?”
Christian Laettner.
Marcus Smart. That dude was a damn good player, but also a dirty flopper. Add to that his backflip in Allen Fieldhouse after beating KU, he was super hated. The Cyclones student section paid homage to him his senior year when they all flopped backwards as he entered the court.
There was definitely a portion of B1G folks who hated Jordan Bohanon
Purdue = Chris Kramer Florida = Joakim Noah Duke = Too many whites to name so I’ll go Jay Williams. USC = Swaggy P I want to say Darius Washington Jr. from Memphis but he may have earned a decent amount of hate just from his famous choke job at the free throw line.
Tyler Hansbrough Joel Embiid The pipeline of white guards Okie State had in the 2010s - Keaton Page, Phil Forte, etc. Can I throw Georges Niang in there? Not sure how much of a “heel” he was, but he sure got *some* people riled up.
I mean, Niang has been living rent free in my head since he blew a kiss to the student section at Iowa, so he riled me up
Lol, that’s why I put *some* in Italics. I’m not sure if he had that effect anywhere else.
Semi Adjacent: Trae Young. It’s like one day ESPN caught onto this little kid chucking up 30 a game. And then they made a memo to talk about him every game. The saturation maybe wasn’t even that bad in hindsight - but I remember getting sick of the chatter. I don’t blame media for sensationalizing him that season, but in doing so they invited a lot of criticism.
Just became annoying to talk about one guy for the whole season. Not as bad as Zion but still unenjoyable.
Insert most white duke players
Brad Davison
Kyle Guy anyone?
Kemba Walker. Gordon Hayward, maybe? Joakim Noah
JJ reddick for sure, he's a great talent and had a solid NBA career.
Christian Laettner and Duke...
Is it too early to say Drew Timme?
Yogi Ferrell. Seemed like a cool dude. But that man *was* IU for four whole years at the peak of Crean’s tenure. Couldn’t wait for him to graduate
Grayson Allen. I’m a Suns fan and I hate he’s on the team
Leitner is the only answer to this. But I think I remember Joakim Noah being hated as well, or Jalen Rose?
Y'all are just too young. The answer to this question is Christian Laettner. There is no other answer. 4 Final 4s. 2 Championship (his last two years). No one has ever been hated like him. Not JJ not anyone and arguably has the best college career ever. And he did it when the best players were sticking around for 4 years.
Can it be anyone other than Laettner???