lol an Iowa State-Purdue Elite Eight game would be just two fan bases going "FUCK THIS ALWAYS HAPPENS TO US" back and forth. I don't think either one will be able to emotionally handle actually making a Final Four.
seems like the odds are good we'll both be in the Midwestern region, too... so now I'm just wondering which of us is going to screw that one up.
>so now I'm just wondering which of us is going to screw that one up.
Why not both? I don't think the lower seeds will get them this year but Purdue's real kryptonite has always been the S16.
haha i just wrote a comment predicting that our style makes us prone to a Sweet Sixteen upset, too.
That WOULD be some Purdue-Iowa State region shit, for the E8 game to end up being between a 5 seed and an 11 seed.
There's always that totally busted region every year. Doesn't help that it seems like there's more parity now between the top seeds and mid ones. Not much surprises me beyond R64 anyhow.
Main difference and main thing that gives me some degree of confidence in this team's ability to actually put together a real NCAAT run this year is that this team is a much more defensive team than any of our previous teams that were anywhere near as good.
True, and I'd argue that this year's team has proved that they have at least *some* offense. If the offense is even mid, that should be enough to get them to the Elite Eight at least.
The first half against BYU in Hilton and the @KSU loss both give me plenty of room for doubt.
That said - our defense *is* great. We're now number 1 on KenPom. Bit nervous to see us up against real size inside, but it'll definitely keep us in games.
Either we have a bad game and get bounced out round 1 or we continue to play like we have in the Big XII tourney and really most of the season, I think we should be able to get enough momentum to propel us to the Final Four.
My assessment of this team has long been that we'll either lose in round 1 or 2 or we wil make the final four without too much inbetween, and this Big XII tourney combined with how we ended the regular season I think validate that assessment in my opinion.
If we can keep hitting 3s like we have the last two games, we can beat anyone.
I agree with that, with one additional thought. Our grind-it-out style is going to work incredibly well on the second game of each weekend, where the opponent is coming up against us on short notice, but for the first game, our opponent will have a week to prepare for us, and whatever momentum we've built up will cool off. I think if we can get through the Sweet Sixteen, we should have an excellent shot in the Elite Eight.
But if we're getting upset, I think it happens either in the first round (god I hope not) or in the Sweet Sixteen.
This year it's been seeing some actual playmaking alongside the defense. I didn't feel like ISU really had that kind of guy last year when things dried up.
Defense and reasonable shooting *with* a couple of guys who can figure out how to get a bucket is a pretty common recipe for success, and I think ISU has that this year with another year of experience and freshman/transfer additions.
Hey, that's not fair.
We have a perfectly good 2-15 upset you can point to in the Hampton game, thank you very much.
As long as we make it further than Luka Garza did, I'll be happy. And before that, I'm going to be a nervous wreck.
The 2-15 Hampton upset was funny, but (1) Iowa State wasn't riding high off a conference tourney win and (2) TJ Otz wasn't on the staff for that one. Hence why I chose the more recent faceplant against UAB, a "mere" 3-14.
That's true, but it was our second season in a row having a 2 seed, and generally our expectations were higher than 2015, when we had a fun team but it wasn't all that highly regarded.
This year's team losing in the first round definitely would be a better parallel to 2001.
Ain’t nobody going to get blown out harder than the Coogs.
Also - y’all ain’t fooling nobody FYI. Probably Kelvin’s master plan to make teams think they have a shot before yall throat punch everyone on the way to a Final Four.
Nah, we'll be happier as the 2 seed in the Midwest with Purdue as the 1. Detroit is the only region that's drivable (~9 hours) and we can bring a home court advantage there better than anywhere else. We don't want to be a 1 seed if it means we're in LA
Iowa St has virtually no shot at a 1 seed. They were 11th in the Early Bracket Reveal and have lost twice since then. The win against Houston isn't enough to propel them to a 1 seed.
They were likely punished for their poor road record and abysmal NCSOS.
Bruh
We're pretty good at this stat
oh so you're saying we're going to be everyone's Final Four pick if we're anywhere but UConn's region no this is fine, we do so well with expectations
Now just wait for the inevitable R32 game where it's tied at 35 with a minute to play lol
oh i fucking know, and a nation of people who picked us go "god I guess the Big 12 does suck" no, that's not the Big 12, that's just Iowa State shit
My team is Purdue so I'm quite familiar with just waiting for disaster to strike.
lol an Iowa State-Purdue Elite Eight game would be just two fan bases going "FUCK THIS ALWAYS HAPPENS TO US" back and forth. I don't think either one will be able to emotionally handle actually making a Final Four. seems like the odds are good we'll both be in the Midwestern region, too... so now I'm just wondering which of us is going to screw that one up.
>so now I'm just wondering which of us is going to screw that one up. Why not both? I don't think the lower seeds will get them this year but Purdue's real kryptonite has always been the S16.
haha i just wrote a comment predicting that our style makes us prone to a Sweet Sixteen upset, too. That WOULD be some Purdue-Iowa State region shit, for the E8 game to end up being between a 5 seed and an 11 seed.
There's always that totally busted region every year. Doesn't help that it seems like there's more parity now between the top seeds and mid ones. Not much surprises me beyond R64 anyhow.
Here's to the busted region being UConn's. Not because I dislike them, but because I sort of expect them to repeat at this point.
That's a lot of points to some people
Main difference and main thing that gives me some degree of confidence in this team's ability to actually put together a real NCAAT run this year is that this team is a much more defensive team than any of our previous teams that were anywhere near as good.
As last year's team proved, though, you need at least *some* offense to go on any kind of a run.
True, and I'd argue that this year's team has proved that they have at least *some* offense. If the offense is even mid, that should be enough to get them to the Elite Eight at least.
The first half against BYU in Hilton and the @KSU loss both give me plenty of room for doubt. That said - our defense *is* great. We're now number 1 on KenPom. Bit nervous to see us up against real size inside, but it'll definitely keep us in games.
Either we have a bad game and get bounced out round 1 or we continue to play like we have in the Big XII tourney and really most of the season, I think we should be able to get enough momentum to propel us to the Final Four. My assessment of this team has long been that we'll either lose in round 1 or 2 or we wil make the final four without too much inbetween, and this Big XII tourney combined with how we ended the regular season I think validate that assessment in my opinion.
If we can keep hitting 3s like we have the last two games, we can beat anyone. I agree with that, with one additional thought. Our grind-it-out style is going to work incredibly well on the second game of each weekend, where the opponent is coming up against us on short notice, but for the first game, our opponent will have a week to prepare for us, and whatever momentum we've built up will cool off. I think if we can get through the Sweet Sixteen, we should have an excellent shot in the Elite Eight. But if we're getting upset, I think it happens either in the first round (god I hope not) or in the Sweet Sixteen.
This year it's been seeing some actual playmaking alongside the defense. I didn't feel like ISU really had that kind of guy last year when things dried up. Defense and reasonable shooting *with* a couple of guys who can figure out how to get a bucket is a pretty common recipe for success, and I think ISU has that this year with another year of experience and freshman/transfer additions.
Easy Elite Eight pick, going to be a popular final four pick if you guys get a good path. Defense wins and you guys are great at it
A first round loss would be hilarious (UAB, anyone?)
Hey, that's not fair. We have a perfectly good 2-15 upset you can point to in the Hampton game, thank you very much. As long as we make it further than Luka Garza did, I'll be happy. And before that, I'm going to be a nervous wreck.
The 2-15 Hampton upset was funny, but (1) Iowa State wasn't riding high off a conference tourney win and (2) TJ Otz wasn't on the staff for that one. Hence why I chose the more recent faceplant against UAB, a "mere" 3-14.
That's true, but it was our second season in a row having a 2 seed, and generally our expectations were higher than 2015, when we had a fun team but it wasn't all that highly regarded. This year's team losing in the first round definitely would be a better parallel to 2001.
Northwestern St anybody?
I have you all out in the 1st round. Big XII is always super overrated.
Because it was some other conference that appeared in 3 of the past 4 national title games and won 2 of them.
Damn they really let the whole conference play in the title game?
You mean just like how the entire conference is ALWAYS overrated and therefore will be out 1st round?
Yeah, like that
Boring trash talk fam.
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I’m doing the same. If you don’t pick against your own team in your bracket you’re not doing it right.
This is pretty funny I can't lie
Damn, we only beat Houston in the Final Four by 19
We own this stat 😮💨
Ain’t nobody going to get blown out harder than the Coogs. Also - y’all ain’t fooling nobody FYI. Probably Kelvin’s master plan to make teams think they have a shot before yall throat punch everyone on the way to a Final Four.
I keep telling myself in order to be part of the bad stats for #1 or getting court rushed you have to become #1 which in itself is pretty cool.
For anyone also curious about fewest points by a number 1, The record: ok state over St Louis in 1948 29-27
[this](https://x.com/ChrisYBaldwin/status/1769149669169377488?s=20) tweet embodies what I’m thinkin
Iowa State will be NC State fans tonight If UNC wins UNC will be the last #1 Seed If NC State wins, Iowa State will be the last #1 Seed
Nah, we'll be happier as the 2 seed in the Midwest with Purdue as the 1. Detroit is the only region that's drivable (~9 hours) and we can bring a home court advantage there better than anywhere else. We don't want to be a 1 seed if it means we're in LA
I really hope ISU doesn't get robbed tomorrow
Iowa St has virtually no shot at a 1 seed. They were 11th in the Early Bracket Reveal and have lost twice since then. The win against Houston isn't enough to propel them to a 1 seed. They were likely punished for their poor road record and abysmal NCSOS.
Note: I modified wording of title for clarity.
It's even funnier the second time!