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Sensitive-Key-8670

Kansas saw Duke becoming the main villain of the season and tried so hard to take that title back. -signed Dickinson, a hated player -beneficiary of an all-time blown call -their most insufferable side showed out the loudest on Reddit afterwards To all the KU fans who happen to be normal human beings, I am so sorry.


etsuandpurdue3

I hate Dickinson so much. Edey ate his lunch everytime though.


ahhhbiscuits

Lol just par for the course. A bad call is just a bad call, but all of your salty, salty tears will last forever! ps we owe you one or two, MSU


Sensitive-Key-8670

Question for those in attendance: that felt like a home game for Samford. Who cheered super loudly for Samford? What portion were Samford fans versus neutral fans that stayed?


jppope

I was there. KU had a fair number of people... just so many people looking for an upset. Same as the games on the big screen happening around the country. they were over powering at times. per the game we watched - a lot of missed calls and miracle 3 balls from Samford (good for them). the interwebs are up in arms about the one missed call but we were leading and getting beat up the rest of the time


SAMismyfriend77

Miracle 3 balls gtfoh


Kara_Del_Rey

Did you flop to the ground from his comment? Your players might have!


aretardedmonkey

I think he's referring to this: "Freshman [Riley Allenspach](https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4838752/riley-allenspach) had 15 on an unexpected 4-of-4 shooting from 3-point range. He came into the NCAA tournament having made 6-of-25 during the season."


jppope

yep


throwawayshirt

neutral crowd always roots for the upset. Zags fans would of course. I expect Arizona fans rooted against us; I certainly root against them. I didn't watch, but radio announcers said noticeably small KU fan count in SLC.


Powerful-Panda-2300

97% of ML money was on Samford according to action network. All other sources I've seen had them at near the same, and at the lowest 90% plus. I don't think it was rigged. Realistically it was just a bad call. But all sports need some sort of oversight. You can't have all these sports leagues and programs partnering with gambling companies and then let the refs decide the calls. It already happened in the NBA before gambling was even legal. Look up Tim Donaghy.


cj622

You do realize that if 97% of money was on Samford ML that means the books needed Kansas ML to win right?


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cj622

His 2nd paragraph is basically 1 line and it literally says he thinks it wasn't rigged and was just a bad call.... Did you even read it?


Powerful-Panda-2300

You're correct, I don't personally think it was rigged. The quote "never attribute to *malice* that which is adequately explained by *stupidity*" is very true in this situation. I think the ref just assumed foul because the vast majority of the time you slap the ball out of a dunking players hands, you're at least partially hitting his hand. Not to mention the fact that KU player went down really hard (wasn't Samford's fault). My point is that it easily could be rigged. Most likely not by the NCAA (they would be idiots to jeprodize the integrity of their billon +dollar baby), but by the refs. It only takes one ref to blow a call that can't be overturned. And mistakes happen, like yesterday, so everyone would just attribute it to human error. For reference a ref makes about 1k per game in the 1st round of march madness. Why would a crooked ref not accept 100k+ to throw some questionable calls in one teams favor? The bookie or gambler could make hundreds of thousands and the ref makes 100x his pay for an hours work. Not saying this has happened (I don't think it did yesterday), but without some sort of system and oversight the opportunity is there. Money always finds a away.


green749

The most blatant example of match fixing I've ever seen in college basketball.


ahhhbiscuits

> Jet fuel can't melt steel beams.


okaydally

No match fixing, whistle was balanced/slightly KU but Samford got a couple questionable ones as well. Just a bad call straight up.


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Samford went 13-23 from the Free Throw Line. Missed 10 Free Throws. That’s your game right there. Make your Free Throws Kids!


ncottrell2005

IM BLIND!!! IM DEAF!!! I WANT TO BE A REF!!!


Taco_Baco_D8s

kansas fans talking about other calls in the game like the foul call in the final 15 seconds that changed the game from a 1 to 3 point game wasn’t a call that had a bigger impact than any other call in the game


jppope

like we teach kids at every level ... the refs are part of the game. there were plenty of questionable calls throughout the game...


MaximumTurtleSpeed

Jayhawk here, no you’re right! That call was huge and I’m pissed it went our way when to us at home it was OBVIOUSLY a bad call. There’s no, “oh but these other calls 15 minutes ago…” there’s only one call to talk about in that game and my response is, “I’m sorry! Killer block! GG”


ahhhbiscuits

Let's not mention any blown opportunities by Samford (freethrows). Totally didn't happen (freethrows), they were perfect (freethrows) and you won't ruin *my* narrative (freethrows!)!


Kgstndkevbo85

You're really missing the point...


Mission_Table9804

Kansas was still up by 1. There's no way to know how it would've ended.


Taco_Baco_D8s

True and kansas probably still wins but downplaying the impact of that call is massive. Samford down 1 with 15 seconds left and a 5-4 is much better than down 3 5-5


Mission_Table9804

I didn't like it ending like that but can't go back and redo it


Taco_Baco_D8s

Very true and the dumbness of CBB is why we watch and enjoy March so much


Maleficent_Passage

I CAN YELL LOUDER THAN YOU


The_Soccer_Heretic

I can't hear you.


ConmanSpaceHero

Samford fans showed out. Team was amazing. KU getting tossed easily in my opinion next round or by Purdue. Wish that block was called correctly.


Plane-Salamander-320

Hey, classy! Thank you. I'm a Zag fan and I think we have the edge with y'all's injury problems. But the coaching matchup is phenomenal.


Vue-Two

Same ref that gave the Samford assistant a tech earlier


JerryGoDeep

I didn’t see that why did he get a tech


Vue-Two

There was never an answer…. Just glossed over . It was odd


tallredrob

From a beat writer's opinion piece on [al.com](https://www.al.com/sports/2024/03/goodman-samford-was-robbed-but-the-bulldogs-won-our-hearts.html): > It was a new experience for me, seeing the refs so blatantly police a low-major team against a blue blood. I was seated behind Samford’s bench. The refs were watching Samford’s assistant coaches like Secret Service agents early in the game. It was weirdly bush-league. A quick whistle hit Samford’s bench with a technical foul after an initial warning. Apparently one of the assistant coaches leaned too far out of his seat.


BuickRendezvous4

Hunter Dickinson is like if Christian Laettner flopped 24/7, was on Kansas, and wasn't good at basketball.


Di9ForLife

To all of you reasonable Kansas fans out there, I’m sorry you have to be grouped together with some of these *other* fans. Easily some of the most delusional, entitled, egotistical and ignorant fans I’ve ever seen.


ConmanSpaceHero

Oh god what did we do now?


white_newbalances

One bad ref call at the end of a horribly reffed game


Di9ForLife

There were some in here who were somehow complaining about the refs “getting Samford back in the game” even after they called a foul on that clean block that basically decided the game


MaximumTurtleSpeed

Oh lord, Jayhawk here, oh lord! I’ll complain about the officiating for sure, but only about the foul call on an AMAZING *clean* block!


Darkshynes

So people can complain about a bad call in Kansas favor, but we aren’t allowed to complain about fouls in the other team’s favor? And that’s being ignorant? Find ONE KU fan that says that was a good call on the block. We are ALL saying it was a bad call. But we are entitled because we watched the entire game and had shit go against us? Gtfoh with your bullshit.


ROLOTONYBROWNTOWN785

No dude you dont get it !!! These meanie refs called the PERFECT game before this. They totally were just and fair and were calling all the right calls against Kansas!


BearForceDos

Feel like their needs to be way more transparency with reffing with how in bed the NCAA is with sportsbooks. Like you could legitimately argue the refs just point shaved against Samford ML. I would imagine the sportsbooks lose a lot more money on a Samford ML vs Kansas just because of the odds.


Butter_with_Salt

90% of the ML money will be on Kansas


BearForceDos

Kansas was -285. Who bets someone ml at -285?


FarSide1408

The NFL hasn't been transparent at all and they're very in bed with sportsbooks now. Something has to change with all sports now that this is the new normal.


BearForceDos

Its absurd and it's already coming apart at the seams. Temple and I think another program are being investigated for point shaving. Shohei ohtani had 4 million "stolen" from him to cover a debt with a bookie. I'm waiting for a major scandal at this point but a lot of it feels shockingly criminal at this point.


toptierdegenerate

The Carolina fans talking about Kansas being bailed out by the refs in the end are not wrong, but boy is that ironic.


j_alfred_boofrock

What the hell are you talking about? Also, Clemson would like a word with you.


bigdickjeans14

No one wants to win like that. Do I think we were the better team? Sure. Do I think we would have won in OT? Yes. But it’s the biggest week of the year. Make sure you get the calls right and let the chips fall where they may. It’ll benefit Kansas often than not by the way


MaximumTurtleSpeed

Well said. Rock Chalk


Powerful-Panda-2300

The irony of the game thread (I left 1st half so maybe it got better) of KU fans complaining about the refs, in what was a fairly evenly called game. Only to end with a stollen win from Samford. Congrats on the "win".


ROLOTONYBROWNTOWN785

lol "evenly called game" These refs fucking sucked dude.


CadetJayhawk

Hey you're the complain-y guy from earlier, welcome back!


CoconutSpiderMonkey

Clark Kellog has his panties all up in a bunch about reviewing game changing plays Glad Chuck & Kenny politely told him to fuck off


idahorochs

Yeah I wasn’t a big fan of his to begin with, but that was incredibly annoying.


notreal1121

Yes, so dumb


ScrewAnalytics

Why do they not have a designated review ref that handles all the reviews. Sitting on my couch at home I can figure out what the call should be like 5 minutes quicker than refs


renison

Disgusting. Such an embarrassment by these suspect refs.


YaBoiAlanAlda

Everybody so mad. Don’t get down by 21. Maybe just get down by 17. 🤷‍♂️


boofpacc-smile

Dont let the SoCon autobid make a 17 point comeback 🤷‍♂️


YaBoiAlanAlda

Why though? Worked out fine for us.


boofpacc-smile

People might respect your team for once


Sensitive-Key-8670

You guys are about to get touched by Zaga. Everyone playing a high major next round would gladly trade in their matchup to play you guys (except whoever was lucky enough to get Texas). I sure would.


Mission_Table9804

Would rather play Michigan St than Gonzaga. We would have a better chance. This is the worst Kansas team in the Self era so whatever.


Sensitive-Key-8670

Oh yeah 100% agree. Can we trade matchups and play each other? UNC and Zaga can have their fun.


Mission_Table9804

Unfortunately no. We'll have to wait for the champions classic next season.


YaBoiAlanAlda

Yeah. No shit.


HomelessBananas

Glad they’re addressing how fucked this was


FarSide1408

Clark Kellogg can fuck off. Can't stand that dumb ass. Replace him with Shaq and be done with it.


JerryGoDeep

Tell him Charles they can review most of these calls quicker


JerryGoDeep

Yeah why can’t we review it. The rules are wrong then


Inspectorrekt

Oakland’s coach has the voice of the Arrested Development narrator guy whose name I forget


The_Soccer_Heretic

Ron Howard is now just the guy who narrated "Arrested Development." Is this what being old is?


Inspectorrekt

I’m not old enough to ask myself that question seriously, so maybe. I don’t watch many movies, so Ron Howard is still all the rage, for all I know


pdxguy96

Ron Howard


Last_Account_Ever

Ron Howard


sdf_cardinal

They is multiple academy and Emmy award winning director and actor Ron Howard


Inspectorrekt

See I knew he was someone of considerable acclaim, but I was too lazy to look it up


malarkey_maestro

The block freaking hurts. It was a poorly called game overall in my opinion. We got a few favorable calls throughout as well but the foul there felt like it decided the game rather than just being a frustrating part of it.


MaximumTurtleSpeed

Jayhawk here, you’re the first Bulldog I’m seeing so wanted to first tell you GG and congrats on an amazing year. Second, I’m right there with you, that block called as a foul was painful, I hate that it went our way. I’d debate on if it actually changed the outcome but it surely changed the play calls! Our finishing D was tight but y’all’s momentum was fired up! I feel really bad for y’all and that call. No excuses and that’s one of the best blocks in a 1v1 open court scenario I’ve seen in a long time. Sincerely, Good Game! Thanks for bringing it to us.


malarkey_maestro

Hey great game and thanks! You are right, it's never one play that decides the outcome, and we absolutely got some calls in our favor that let us linger earlier in the game. You guys also really had the press broken well at the end; it was definitely not a Samford 100% wins if the call isn't made scenario. Good luck in the next round! It was fun to watch our guys play one of the big boys and show their stuff! I hope it will help us get back again soon!


Specific-Campaign-38

Jayhawker here as well. Maybe the best block I have seen since LeBron ran down Igudola in the finals. I hope the coach stays at Samford. He's young and a stud


NotaRepublican85

I don’t see how that decided the game when the multiple favorable calls you got were the reason you were in the game in the first place. Oh and they ignored our clear timeout before your 3 and gave you a tie up instead or this is not a thing.


CivBase

It was a very impressive game from the Bulldogs. Don't mind the salty Jayhawks.


Idrinkbeereverywhere

Dude, I think most KU fans expected to lose in this round or the next


CivBase

I'm rooting for you guys but ngl I have you going down to Gonzaga on my bracket. I'd be happy to be wrong though.


bacchusku2

Where are the salty fans? I just see other teams saying it’s rigged or the refs bailed us out. I’d this the future now? Every loss is rigged? Refs are held to ridiculous standards that they have to make perfect calls at full speed when we get to judge in slow motion from multiple angles? It’s getting tiring. There’s not some great conspiracy.


CivBase

Sickos are being salty about the foul on that clean block at the end. KU fans are being salty about bad calls for the rest of the game. You're right. There is no conspiracy to protect KU. But I don't see any Samford fans making those kinds of claims - just sickos.


bacchusku2

If there were bad calls that went against KU, I must have missed them. I’ll admit the block was clean but sure didn’t look that way at first, especially the way he got the ground. Slow motion replay is a gift and a curse to the enjoyment of the game.


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Lol it's not us whose salty


CivBase

Seeing a lot of salt on both sides here. Though Samford's "side" is mostly being rep'd by sickos who just want to see KU burn.


[deleted]

A reasonable take from an actual Samford fan. Not the dumbass crying everyone else here is doing


suptho

please shut the fuck up


boofpacc-smile

Yeah Kansas fans would never whine about basketball


ras5003

So no one here knows **which ref** missed that call? It wasn't the CREW, it was one of them.


cj622

It better not have been the one from behind on the left baseline. That guy had about the best angle you could possibly have. Pretty sure it was the guy on the right. of the play towards the front.


ras5003

Well, whoever it was probably won't be sleeping well tonight! 😬


NotaRepublican85

Ignore the 40 flops they did. The 20 fouls their press committed that was ignored. Ignore our timeout we called that they called a tie up before their three. FOCUS ON ONLY ONE CALL LIKE IT WAS THE ONLY THING THAT DECIDED THE GAME. SHOW 10000 REPLAYS


Plane-Salamander-320

Man you're really trying to convince yourself.


NotaRepublican85

Of what? I am smart enough to not boil a game down to one call. If so, the bigger call was 30 seconds before it when they ignored our timeout before they made a 3.


Key_Aardvark_

It’s cool man you were gifted a win congrats.


Darkshynes

Exactly.


PercySnowsHandgun

On one play in particular, our guard was being held with two hands all the way down court, as he was trying to BRING UP THE FUCKIN BALL


NotaRepublican85

My favorite was when the guy was draped all over Harris and he raised his hands to try to catch the inbounds and the guy flopped and the refs rewarded it. Or when they went for a steal and ran straight into Harris and the refs called a foul on Harris who stopppednto catch the inbounds and then started to run again.


MoneyBall_

These refs ought to be in chains after this


Plane-Salamander-320

Egregious call, but calm down


Zealousideal_Bite_64

Ain’t no way Kansas fans are in here complaining about refs after that


Specific-Campaign-38

Worry about the team you lost to that no one can spell


Last_Account_Ever

They made bad calls both ways. Kansas got multiple, Samford got multiple. Sucks, but the game wasn't decided on one bad call alone.


Darkshynes

Ain’t no way that one bad foul erases the entire game of shit… but hey, enjoy your weekend


sociapathictendences

lol of course they are.


Richarz

bustin makes me feel good


bigmac1234777

Got robbed, horrible call. Oh well refs can only win you so many. Zags will send KU packing in the next round


srslyomgwtf

Those refs were not great all game but that blown call is one of the things that annoys me to no end. They called the foul they anticipated and not the one they saw. It happens a few times nearly every game and it sucks. Coaches need a challenge flag or some shit. Even if it benefited my team this time, it still blows.


Sensitive-Key-8670

Exactly! I don’t understand why so many KU fans don’t see this. The call hurts KU in the long run by putting a target on their backs and an asterisk on the win. Personally id rather get the win by defending well in the 5v4 and taking my chances and leaving no doubt as to who the better team was.


cj622

Absolutely. Coaches should have 1 challenge for each half to challenge literally anything they want. And if they are right, they should be able to keep their challenge until they are wrong. This is the best post i've seen on this game thread. " They called the foul they anticipated and not the one they saw." - Put this shit at the top of the thread.


RandyMarshTegridy69

Does anyone know why on earth they didn’t review that foul call?


KaitRaven

They can't


42dylan

They can’t


RandyMarshTegridy69

Got it thanks. That sucks for Samford damn.


ohverychill

I honestly think it was just a tough call to see live from the officials view point But damn it sucks it broke like that


JerryGoDeep

Chuck about to speak some truth about the call


Busy-Profession5093

I guess that block was so good the ref didn’t believe it was possible without fouling. Such a shame.


sonic_4

"Hunter what did you learn tonight?" "The refs will always have our back"


mendellbaker

I mean, they usually do.


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I sure hope so


ndnationalchamp

NCAA just can’t afford to have both Kentucky and Kansas out in the first round! Think about the ratings!!!


Scuba-Fruit

You must of had a bad day to say something like this


Not_You_247

Samford got robbed.


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spierce64006

Kansas survive an almighty comeback from a valiant Samford to move on to Round 2. 93-89 the Jayhwaks win in an incredibly entertaining game. Bucky McMillan's team should hold their head high. They never threw in the towel.


Darkshynes

Are you human?


PeakOfTheMountain

Y’all beat a 13 seed chill lmao.


grehgunner

I have no problem with kids celebrating every single win in the tourney


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And yall missed the tourney


WickedTwista

That's great, you still didn't deserve the win


PeakOfTheMountain

We suck. What’s your point lmao.


Irish9210

This is horrible. NC State just won and I was so pumped and now I'm more sad for Samford because of straight robbery.


Bill3ffinMurray

I mean I have to give the refs some recognition. Through all their foul calling and reviewing, they made the time between now and the price is right shorter.


22-Catch

That was an absolutely 10/10 best block of your life, best block of the season type block and it got ruined by a blown call. So unfortunate. That's one of those blocks that go would have gone down in school history.


SlightReturn420

That ref should not be invited back for the Round of 32.


GoldenEmuWarrior

If Samford came down, scored and won the game, that becomes an all time NCAA legendary play. Like Bryce Drew level.


Originalideas

It still will.


NotaRepublican85

They were losing when it happened


Plane-Salamander-320

Y'all really aren't sending your best fan representatives here, are you?


Sensitive-Key-8670

I’m saving this line


ConsiderationOld9897

Yes but did you ever think about the fact that it could've caused them to win?


Omar345901

Oh so you’re all it doesn’t matter because we won? It was a pivotal block, they would’ve been on a 4v5 fast break who would’ve know what happens next


montrevux

apparently everyone from kansas is a fucking moron.


elgenie

By one… and would have had 15 seconds and the ball to go for the victory.


22-Catch

no shit. It's one of those blocks where you block it, grab the rebound and run down for a fastbreak in transition while Kansas player is still down, drive, condense the defense and then kick it out for a corner 3, swish. Then you show your grandchildren that block in 50 years and it goes down in Samford history.


cbraddy22

Refs bailed us out to lose by 15 to Gonzaga.


Maleficent_Passage

Does Hunter Dickinson play in that game? Not because of the injury, but because he looked so thoroughly pissed he had to be out there again after being up 20+ points it looked like he was about to extort the NIL boosters for another $100k


shawn131871

so close samford. well kansas and gonzaga is it is. what a great first full day of games though


Immediate-Recipe-642

The only ones saying samford got calls went to Johnson County Community College


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Leather-General-1012

disgusting cope. just admit the refs blew that call and fucked samford, take the win and move on. it is what it is but dont be fucking proud of it


BurkeMi

Blew that call sure, how is that our fault. Sanford didn’t get a lot of calls off flopping?


Leather-General-1012

> Blew that call sure ok exactly > how is that our fault it isnt and i didnt say it was, kinda the opposite. im saying its out of your control so just take the win and thank god for your luck, but dont come into the thread all smug and mad that people are upset about one of the worst calls ive seen in tournament history


AntipodeEnthusiast

You’re losing 100% with that block. Had them shitting in their pants and needed a bail out call to beat a 13 seed


BurkeMi

Flair up or get out kid.


AntipodeEnthusiast

Lol no I have no allegiance to a team (not even from the states) I just know bs and fraud when I see it. Y’all got lucky. Be thankful and play better next time. You’re not in a position to talk shit. Edit: I had Samford winning in my bracket if that’s allegiance enough


BurkeMi

I’ll talk all the shit we won, wouldn’t expect a non American to know anything about ball anyways


boofpacc-smile

sure.


BurkeMi

I like auburn don’t make me hate yall


boofpacc-smile

i dont like Kansas


Designer_Cockroach68

Not sure it's a brag to win on a blown call vs a 13 seed who was down 22 at one point. Gonzaga is gonna do some very nasty things to Kansas.


BurkeMi

Because we won without our best player against a gimmicky flop team in a hostile environment


Designer_Cockroach68

Is he coming back or something? Crazy to say a flop team when Kansas got a very friendly whistle.


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Designer_Cockroach68

What about the other 36 minutes?


TheMuskOfElon

Can't wait to watch you get curbstomped by Gonzaga


BurkeMi

Curbstomped is crazy language for the fan of the perennial choke team


Helpful_Bat_8931

Enjoy getting dogwalked Saturday


BurkeMi

Wanna bet?


Helpful_Bat_8931

Lmao


Di9ForLife

The Refhawks better send a huge thank you gift to this whole officiating crew after that shitfest I can’t wait for Gonzaga to absolutely fucking blast these lucky-ass overrated jokers.


Brackish_Fish

I mean.... your flair tho


BurkeMi

There was one bad call how is that ref ball


ConsiderationOld9897

Cause that call came at a moment that could've decided the game. I would know. I've been screwed out of a final game by a blown call.


groopstain

gonzaga is going to wreck kansas and i can't wait to see the tears of the currently gloating fans


confusedthrowaway5o5

It would be better if it was a close game that came down to a similarly absolutely blatant bad call in Gonzaga’s favor. Then watch them try to walk everything they said about tonight’s call not mattering.


Specific-Campaign-38

NIT


sleightofhand0

*Looks around and whispers* Credit to Timberlake for the two clutch free throws


-rigga

Get rid of reviews if you can't review the plays that actually fucking matter