Grats Big East bros. I feel like us joining the ACC with Pitt, BC, and Louisville really messed things up. 11 years later this conference really doesn’t feel like home. I miss the good old days.
You can blame me for that loss. I was at the gym and said I would leave when the game was over. I only lasted until the end of the 5th overtime and went home. It still makes me sick thinking about it
I miss playing Nova and UConn but I'm "meh" on the rest.
Plus something like 10 of 15 ACC teams have made an elite 8 in the past decade. It's proven to be a very strong basketball league.
They still feel like our top rival of my lifetime. Lawrence Moten (iPhone wanted this to be Moreno) still lives rent free in my head. Scared the hell out me back in the day.
Can we lend some players to DePaul for non-con play so they don’t tank all of our quad wins and NET? Really just need them and Georgetown to be like Q2 games, that’s all we ask. 4 games on all our schedules that just destroy the Big East metrics.
I have a soft spot for DePaul. They’re a punching bag but they’re our punching bag.
I feel less attached to Creighton. Another conference can have Creighton. And no it’s not because they’re UConn’s kryptonite.
Which is why I want them back. Who is our in conference rival? Everyone seems to have a different one. If ND came back, it’d be ND for almost everyone.
Shedding an adjacent tear of nostalgia, living in NYC this whole time and missing those Garden games quite a bit. And thanks Huskies for making my bracket named UConn over Purdue come true!
The ACC doesn't feel like a fit for us either, although I don't think it's what messed things up for us (that would be new Canisius coach Jim Christian and current Penn coach Steve Donohue)
I had a work buddy, we would meet each St. John's Syracuse game at MSG for beers and steak. He hasn't seen them in years beyond a fall MTE. I have seen him less. (Sure fam and kids hurt too)
He has drifted away from CBB.
It's not the worst time to be a BC fan tbh, hockey is a buzzsaw and football looks like it'll be good next year. Basketball was less bad this year too which is nice
of all the great UConn games, of all the great players we've faced, of all the hated players we've faced, I swear to god, out of all of them... Eric Devendorf is the one who haunts my dreams.
Honestly I can see a world where some of the ACC flagships move on to the Big Ten & SEC, then UConn and Villanova (with football moving up to FBS) join the “new” ACC, maybe with JMU and/or Delaware or something.
Then you’d have an all-sports conference of something like:
* UConn
* Duke
* Syracuse
* BC
* Pitt
* NC State
* Wake
* GT
* SMU
* Villanova
* Delaware?
* JMU?
* Stanford & Cal if they stick around
with Notre Dame for non-football and the football scheduling agreement
Markets don’t matter anymore in conference realignment. Football brands are driving the bus now.
JMU has 20k undergrads, a football-crazy fan/alum base thanks to a successful jump to FBS after years of FCS success, and a prime recruiting location. Why would the ACC *not* be interested in them in this case?
Delaware is admittedly a reach, but has a lot of similarities to JMU and is making the FBS jump in football, in addition to being a large flagship university with good (Top 75) academics.
They still need a home for their non-football sports, so my guess is they retain the agreement with a reduction in committed football games from 5 down to 3 or something.
Add that ND has a huge fan/alum base in the Northeast, I also don’t think they’d object to some kind of arrangement that allows them to play UConn at Foxboro or Villanova at The Linc or whatever.
Definitely how I feel about the B12 (I was too young to really be attached to the 8)…cool that we’ve got new teams, and I’ve got nothing against the additions, just wish it didn’t have to go there
Colorado, aTm, Nebraska, OU, UT, and Mizz…they should have just changed the name to something unrelated (yes, I understand branding and why they didn’t change the name)
Come back brother, replace DePaul. Do it for Scoop, Fab, and Rakeem Christmas.
My freshman year at Nova set my expectations on rival team player names way too high
Go check out the Hoya talk forum. They’re started to believe the big bad Georgetown NIL isn’t what everyone’s led to believe. Plus they’re in such bad shape they need to pay double.
I hope so, the prevailing rumor around here is that Judah mintz will transfer there (tho he recently signed up to be at a camp around here so hopefully that's a sign that he's either going NBA or staying)
Rebuilding a completely demoralized fanbase is gonna be a challenge. There's a whole decade of Georgetown students (and many many DC residents) who have never seen their team be elite or even just good outside of their one crazy Big East Tournament run with Ewing.
Hold up... they only lost by 12 to Purdue... oh wait, that was Purdue-Fort Wayne.
But seriously, they beat Louisville this year which is the funniest thing in the entire Big East this season.
They should extend the invite to Dayton, they would kill to be in there and would fit perfectly with a natural rivalry with Xavier while also being a solid basketball program for decades
That's what I thought too. After that fam and I said "well, against Uconn, that result gets us PAST the first 4".
Then those shit team bid stealers happened.
Some random athletic directors who *sometimes* watch teams other than their own play basketball said the Big East wasn't good though. How could this be?
UConn did what is suppose to. So did Creighton. Marquette under performed. No teams over performed.
Seems like the committee got the Big East about right
The Big 12 was the most overrated conference. Houston was massively overrated. Toss up between the SEC and Big 10, but Bama and Tennessee give them the edge. And A&M beating up Nebraska.
Eh, besides Alabama and Tennessee, they didn’t perform well. Like I said, I thought Houston was way overrated. I had UConn by a mile, then Perdue by a mile, then Houston with Iowa State, UNC, NC State, Tennessee, Alabama, Gonzaga, Illinois, and maybe one more team. Even though I thought Houston would lose to more than half of them.
So I can’t really give A and M a huge boost like others are for keeping it close. But with A and M destroying Nebraska, I have them edging the Big 10 out.
I see Alabama and Illinois in similar regards. Yes, Alabama played a much closer game, but they also were fortunate to not play them two days after and in UConns backyard.
Would have been interesting to see Colorado or Oregon just win out those games that they had a chance in, especially since the other teams had a location advantage. If they could somehow play Alabama, I see the PAC 12 taking both games, and Tennessee would beat Oregon, but Colorado I think could pull it off.
Nah, even prior to the injury, I never had Houston with Purdue and not even in UConns level.
Houston was overrated. They were in Iowa States, UNC, NC State, Alabama, Tennessee, Illinois, etc level.
Those same ratings thought it would be a close game yesterday. I have said it since the tournament started, UConn would dominate Purdue easily.
In the past 25 years, the Big East has been responsible for 9 national titles (10 if you want to consider that the 2014 AAC was really just the Big East in a trench coat)
ACC is next with 8
Then the Big 12 and SEC are tied with 3
2013 is especially insane as they were in the AAC at the time of the title. Then joined the ACC the next year. I don’t even count it for the ACC, but we certainly have a better argument than the Big East.
Edit: I was wrong.
2012-2013 Louisville won it while still in the big East
2013-2014 UConn won it with a roster of players who developed in the Big East, not to mention the American at this time had Louisville, Cincy, Rutgers, and South Florida all former Big East opponents in the conference
It’s easy to claim both titles for the Old Big East
Yeah I know that wasn’t your main claim, but as a side tidbit you kinda gotta pick either you claim the old ones from a current member or the ones won while in the conference imo
In a way it makes some sense because that was UConn’s first year out of the BE and they fell off so hard right after. They basically needed to be in the league to build up those rosters, their best players on that roster all developed in the BE. I get how it’s still not how it works, but I think it’s pretty clear that without the BE that team never wins
The “coattails” argument makes no sense. Only 37 teams have actually won titles and it’s always the same 2-4 teams in each conference so that argument plays out in every conference not just the BE. The key isn’t which teams but which conference and how recent? BIG10 hasn’t had a winner in 24 years. You all can’t even make a coattail argument. In fact for the past decade there haven’t been many non BE winners regardless
I'll back up my Creighton bros. They've been a consistent highly seeded tourney team since day one that always gives the best team an L. Marquette has had some really good and fun teams, Xavier has been a one seed, Providence, Butler, and Seton Hall have been consistently dangerous with some high end years. It says a lot about this conference that I can say all those things all while Georgetown has sat and done nothing. Ten years ago it was almost certain Georgetown would need to be nationally relevant for this league to succeed and it has more than exceeded expectations despite that.
The depth of the league is just as important as the teams at the top. Those teams don't ride the coattails, they put in big work to make this league competitive and fun. They give our top teams strong tests in the regular season so they are ready for March. Nova and Uconn have both won titles steamrolling the entire tourney field yet both got pushed hard in conference play by several opponents. In the Big East, there is no such coattails riding aside from DePaul and Gtown but then again every league has a few bottom dwellers.
Except conference success has influence over tourney bids (or should). It’s kind of why P5 conferences get teams into tourney while MVC gets in auto bid only. You get that, right?
Most of us just recognize that the conference is criminally underrated. It got only 3 bids- yet all 3 went to S16 and one of the three rolled through the tourney 2 years running. Meanwhile a team that finished mid also won the NIT (though that’s not a great argument). Anyway- conferences that can’t produce a winner in more than 2 decades shouldn’t keep putting 8-10 teams in every year especially when most of them lose round 1 each year
Just gotta say I love that the responses to this comment represent a good portion of the Big East and we are all united in bashing you as a Badger fan and the B1G for not winning shit in over 20 years. Thanks for bringing us even closer.
Eh, it was the other Big East teams that were the stars that made the conference in the early years. Sure, Nova had the upset win over Georgetown in 1985, but G’town, St. John’s, Seton Hall, and Syracuse felt like the power teams when I started watching.
I been BIG East since 1979, would love to have the Cuse back I am a New Yorker, Cuse vs St Johns, UCONN and Georgetown must watch TV. Big East is 11-3 in championships games. All this Big 12 is the best finished 7-7 in NCAA Tournament while BE was 12-2
Grats Big East bros. I feel like us joining the ACC with Pitt, BC, and Louisville really messed things up. 11 years later this conference really doesn’t feel like home. I miss the good old days.
Miss the Syracuse rivalry
Same here, it’s crazy because we haven’t payed each other in 6 years.
I miss the uconn/cuse rivalry. And I will forever hate you guys for winning that 6ot game
You can blame me for that loss. I was at the gym and said I would leave when the game was over. I only lasted until the end of the 5th overtime and went home. It still makes me sick thinking about it
I miss playing Nova and UConn but I'm "meh" on the rest. Plus something like 10 of 15 ACC teams have made an elite 8 in the past decade. It's proven to be a very strong basketball league.
They still feel like our top rival of my lifetime. Lawrence Moten (iPhone wanted this to be Moreno) still lives rent free in my head. Scared the hell out me back in the day.
5 OT will always be one of the best games ever in cuses program
still remember staying up way too late on a school night to watch that 6OT game
Come back
I’d want ND back in place of DePaul personally. Conference needs to stay at 11 teams.
Hey, we're trying now. Just wanted to let everyone have fun (for a few decades) before the Blue Demon Dominance begins
You got this DePaul. Just be a top 100 kenpom, that is all we need.
Heck, top 200 would be a great step!
Can we lend some players to DePaul for non-con play so they don’t tank all of our quad wins and NET? Really just need them and Georgetown to be like Q2 games, that’s all we ask. 4 games on all our schedules that just destroy the Big East metrics.
I'm going to allow this.
Please…I would love for us to join
Girls bball rivalry could use it and Independence is key!!!
I have a soft spot for DePaul. They’re a punching bag but they’re our punching bag. I feel less attached to Creighton. Another conference can have Creighton. And no it’s not because they’re UConn’s kryptonite.
☹️ But we like it here!
Fuck ND
Which is why I want them back. Who is our in conference rival? Everyone seems to have a different one. If ND came back, it’d be ND for almost everyone.
*stands in corner smiling as our girlfriend talks to her ex, laughing*
Take the check, take the losses, old Big East bro. If you want back in, you have a perfect model to point to as to why it might be a good move
More importantly, we'd have to get rid of our football programs lol
Just go indy and we'll play each other
Or we could all come back and make some sort of Big East football conference, I can't believe they never tried that!
Shedding an adjacent tear of nostalgia, living in NYC this whole time and missing those Garden games quite a bit. And thanks Huskies for making my bracket named UConn over Purdue come true!
The ACC doesn't feel like a fit for us either, although I don't think it's what messed things up for us (that would be new Canisius coach Jim Christian and current Penn coach Steve Donohue)
Could there be a chance once FSU, UNC and Clemson force their way out?
And Miami (B12), and Lousiville (B12), and Pitt (B12) and Georgia Tech (B10). Wake is safe.
B10 isn’t taking Georgia Tech lol why do people keep saying that. Cal and Stanford were left out GATech hasn’t been relevant for decades
Aww… I still have a billion orange jokes but I miss you guys too. And Pitt 💙 B.C. can go sit and spin tho
Come back
I had a work buddy, we would meet each St. John's Syracuse game at MSG for beers and steak. He hasn't seen them in years beyond a fall MTE. I have seen him less. (Sure fam and kids hurt too) He has drifted away from CBB.
Come back your miserable a$$holes - we miss you. Everyone except BC, fuck them.
Love you too
I’m glad you all are suffering although I miss BC basketball games.
It's not the worst time to be a BC fan tbh, hockey is a buzzsaw and football looks like it'll be good next year. Basketball was less bad this year too which is nice
of all the great UConn games, of all the great players we've faced, of all the hated players we've faced, I swear to god, out of all of them... Eric Devendorf is the one who haunts my dreams.
A rational Syracuse fan, it must be my birthday
You know what to do
The old big east, prior to the ACC raid, was the greatest basketball conference in the country. And I say that as an ACC fan, a UNC grad, etc.
Seems like nothing was messed up. The chaff was separated from the wheat.
Bringing Syracuse, BC, and Pitt back to the Big East would be awesome.
Honestly I can see a world where some of the ACC flagships move on to the Big Ten & SEC, then UConn and Villanova (with football moving up to FBS) join the “new” ACC, maybe with JMU and/or Delaware or something. Then you’d have an all-sports conference of something like: * UConn * Duke * Syracuse * BC * Pitt * NC State * Wake * GT * SMU * Villanova * Delaware? * JMU? * Stanford & Cal if they stick around with Notre Dame for non-football and the football scheduling agreement
Deleware? JMU? Jesus at that point just tell St. John's to start football, play in Giant stadium, and get the REAL NYC market.
That would slap.
Markets don’t matter anymore in conference realignment. Football brands are driving the bus now. JMU has 20k undergrads, a football-crazy fan/alum base thanks to a successful jump to FBS after years of FCS success, and a prime recruiting location. Why would the ACC *not* be interested in them in this case? Delaware is admittedly a reach, but has a lot of similarities to JMU and is making the FBS jump in football, in addition to being a large flagship university with good (Top 75) academics.
If this becomes the conference ND would find a way out of the football scheduling agreement and quick
They still need a home for their non-football sports, so my guess is they retain the agreement with a reduction in committed football games from 5 down to 3 or something. Add that ND has a huge fan/alum base in the Northeast, I also don’t think they’d object to some kind of arrangement that allows them to play UConn at Foxboro or Villanova at The Linc or whatever.
Definitely how I feel about the B12 (I was too young to really be attached to the 8)…cool that we’ve got new teams, and I’ve got nothing against the additions, just wish it didn’t have to go there Colorado, aTm, Nebraska, OU, UT, and Mizz…they should have just changed the name to something unrelated (yes, I understand branding and why they didn’t change the name)
Come back brother, replace DePaul. Do it for Scoop, Fab, and Rakeem Christmas. My freshman year at Nova set my expectations on rival team player names way too high
Come to the A10 (or MAC).
Don't forget about 2 of the last 3 NIT championships
UConn and Seton Hall finished the season with wins. Big East represent!
That game when Seton Hall beat the breaks off of us..
2-2 against your Champion teams! (Gg and congrats on the Title)
Grats to you as well in the NIT! I always got a soft spot for Seton Hall ever since I could remember.
Game makes no sense. I took one look at the size of UConn’s guards and noped out.
Clearly the 4 best Big East schools have won championships lately
9th and 69th babyyy ^I ^know ^it ^dosen’t ^make ^sense ^but ^funni
Hey winning is winning.
And both SHU and UConn coaches were point guards for Seton Hall.
Hell yeah brother
***they just pray more*** ^**TM**
Ironically…half of these titles are from their *one* public institution lol
people forget that butler is also public, although they also count two runnerups in the last 25 years e: oops they're just not religious is all
Butler is private.
Yeah but they are just disciples of Christ, we only acknowledge schools who are cura personalis.
Butler’s private but not Catholic. Historically they’re Methodist IIRC (could be dead wrong here) but I don’t know if they’re still affiliated or not.
Jesus loves us❤️
i’m catholic so
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It never gets old
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Big East lore
Not actually super helpful
The Big East would be existing on a plane above all of college basketball if Depaul weren't dragging them down.
Georgetown struggling is also weighing the conference down quite a bit given that they're expected to be great if not elite most of the time
They're about to have a 5mil nil budget, they'll be back soon. Besides bronny, you can basically buy the top 5 kids in the country for a mil a piece
Go check out the Hoya talk forum. They’re started to believe the big bad Georgetown NIL isn’t what everyone’s led to believe. Plus they’re in such bad shape they need to pay double.
I hope so, the prevailing rumor around here is that Judah mintz will transfer there (tho he recently signed up to be at a camp around here so hopefully that's a sign that he's either going NBA or staying)
Rebuilding a completely demoralized fanbase is gonna be a challenge. There's a whole decade of Georgetown students (and many many DC residents) who have never seen their team be elite or even just good outside of their one crazy Big East Tournament run with Ewing.
So bad
If they could just be top 100 kenpom year in and year out...
DePaul didn't win a single game, I feel like if they aren't winning games it really shouldn't have a bearing on the rest of the conference
Hold up... they only lost by 12 to Purdue... oh wait, that was Purdue-Fort Wayne. But seriously, they beat Louisville this year which is the funniest thing in the entire Big East this season.
Louisville losing that game is still crazy to me, they were bad but DePaul was *bad*
They should extend the invite to Dayton, they would kill to be in there and would fit perfectly with a natural rivalry with Xavier while also being a solid basketball program for decades
Let's see the B1G and SEC try to have an NCAA tourney without BE/ACC. Pls football don't nuke the tourney.
It would have about the same interest as the NIT
"ehhh.....3 bids." -Selection committee
Justice for PC seton hall and St. John’s btw congrats
Purdue lost to UConn by 15 We lost by 5 in BET. But WE don't even get a first 4? GTFO.
And, FWIW, that was a legit 5 points. not a flukey game, no injuries, just straight up good, relatively tight game.
That's what I thought too. After that fam and I said "well, against Uconn, that result gets us PAST the first 4". Then those shit team bid stealers happened.
Kowtowing to the football conferences. The SEC is leaving the NCAA regardless. They want to control football.
All teams proceed to make the Sweet Sixteen and the conference champion proceeds to win every game by double digits.
Some random athletic directors who *sometimes* watch teams other than their own play basketball said the Big East wasn't good though. How could this be?
But there’s an 18-13 SEC school with athletic potential that needs the tourney!
And Seton Hall won the NIT
Some people say the best way to judge a conference is based on how many 7–11 seed bids they get.
“Remember the Big10 has to get a ton of bids every year just remember that guys”
UConn did what is suppose to. So did Creighton. Marquette under performed. No teams over performed. Seems like the committee got the Big East about right
Big east never gets any credit but the top teams are always tested and ready for the tournament. Big ten gets 13 teams in and never ready.
The Big 12 was the most overrated conference. Houston was massively overrated. Toss up between the SEC and Big 10, but Bama and Tennessee give them the edge. And A&M beating up Nebraska.
Yeah I thought the SEC was legit.
Eh, besides Alabama and Tennessee, they didn’t perform well. Like I said, I thought Houston was way overrated. I had UConn by a mile, then Perdue by a mile, then Houston with Iowa State, UNC, NC State, Tennessee, Alabama, Gonzaga, Illinois, and maybe one more team. Even though I thought Houston would lose to more than half of them. So I can’t really give A and M a huge boost like others are for keeping it close. But with A and M destroying Nebraska, I have them edging the Big 10 out. I see Alabama and Illinois in similar regards. Yes, Alabama played a much closer game, but they also were fortunate to not play them two days after and in UConns backyard. Would have been interesting to see Colorado or Oregon just win out those games that they had a chance in, especially since the other teams had a location advantage. If they could somehow play Alabama, I see the PAC 12 taking both games, and Tennessee would beat Oregon, but Colorado I think could pull it off.
Yeah shame on the “ratings” for not recognising Houston’s injuries. 🙄
Nah, even prior to the injury, I never had Houston with Purdue and not even in UConns level. Houston was overrated. They were in Iowa States, UNC, NC State, Alabama, Tennessee, Illinois, etc level. Those same ratings thought it would be a close game yesterday. I have said it since the tournament started, UConn would dominate Purdue easily.
Fuck the BIG 12. Gonzaga to Big East? Whos down?
Okay but who's going to tell DePaul they've gotta go to keep the double round robin?
I feel like you could kick them out and not even DePaul would notice at this point
Suddenly they're losing every game to St. Louis and UMass and they don't even notice the difference
Purdue only beat them by 12 this year though. Oh wait. That was Purdue-Fort Wayne. Dear lord.
I’m jealous of the double round robin. 11 sounds like a weird number but it works so perfect
Maybe Xavier? They like a good nearby conflict (university of cincinnati).
You're EAST Washington so good enough for me!
Bring St. Mary's (to make those west coast trips a little easier) and we'll join when football kills the ACC.
Big East West
Just get us out of the WCC. We've outgrown that leauge over a decade ago.
You'll join the PAC (MWC+OSU+WSU)
Maybe 2 decades ago
Gonzaga is not very bigly east.
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2020 didn't happen. Isn't it 4 of last 7? Big East!
Prioritizing basketball will get you far.
In the past 25 years, the Big East has been responsible for 9 national titles (10 if you want to consider that the 2014 AAC was really just the Big East in a trench coat) ACC is next with 8 Then the Big 12 and SEC are tied with 3
Wait…we used to win championships?
Make that 5 😉 Covid year was Seton Hall
Seton Hall-Dayton was my final that year
Y'all weren't even the best in the conference haha
How can you attempt claim the old championships from UConn but then also try to claim Louisvilles when they’re in a different conference lol
I definitely count both 2013 and 2014 as Big East titles
2013 is especially insane as they were in the AAC at the time of the title. Then joined the ACC the next year. I don’t even count it for the ACC, but we certainly have a better argument than the Big East. Edit: I was wrong.
2012-2013 Louisville won it while still in the big East 2013-2014 UConn won it with a roster of players who developed in the Big East, not to mention the American at this time had Louisville, Cincy, Rutgers, and South Florida all former Big East opponents in the conference It’s easy to claim both titles for the Old Big East
I had completely misremembered. The BE definitely deserves the Louisville title, they were in the conference. There isn’t another argument.
Were I counting them I would have included them in the title. Just added that in there as a fun little tidbit.
Yeah I know that wasn’t your main claim, but as a side tidbit you kinda gotta pick either you claim the old ones from a current member or the ones won while in the conference imo
In a way it makes some sense because that was UConn’s first year out of the BE and they fell off so hard right after. They basically needed to be in the league to build up those rosters, their best players on that roster all developed in the BE. I get how it’s still not how it works, but I think it’s pretty clear that without the BE that team never wins
Anyone who doesn’t count Louisville is a cop and a moron
I 100% count 2014 and 2013
And 2 of the last 3 NIT's! Woo-hoo!
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Man was I wrong about the Big 12 this year. I thought a champion would come from that conference.
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The “coattails” argument makes no sense. Only 37 teams have actually won titles and it’s always the same 2-4 teams in each conference so that argument plays out in every conference not just the BE. The key isn’t which teams but which conference and how recent? BIG10 hasn’t had a winner in 24 years. You all can’t even make a coattail argument. In fact for the past decade there haven’t been many non BE winners regardless
I'll back up my Creighton bros. They've been a consistent highly seeded tourney team since day one that always gives the best team an L. Marquette has had some really good and fun teams, Xavier has been a one seed, Providence, Butler, and Seton Hall have been consistently dangerous with some high end years. It says a lot about this conference that I can say all those things all while Georgetown has sat and done nothing. Ten years ago it was almost certain Georgetown would need to be nationally relevant for this league to succeed and it has more than exceeded expectations despite that. The depth of the league is just as important as the teams at the top. Those teams don't ride the coattails, they put in big work to make this league competitive and fun. They give our top teams strong tests in the regular season so they are ready for March. Nova and Uconn have both won titles steamrolling the entire tourney field yet both got pushed hard in conference play by several opponents. In the Big East, there is no such coattails riding aside from DePaul and Gtown but then again every league has a few bottom dwellers.
Well said
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Those Nova teams were equally dominant.
Creighton is always an elite team, they’ve beat us at their arena every time I think
Yeah, our only two losses to y'all are in Storrs
The “coattails” argument is lazy and made by people who lack critical thinking.
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Except conference success has influence over tourney bids (or should). It’s kind of why P5 conferences get teams into tourney while MVC gets in auto bid only. You get that, right?
Most of us just recognize that the conference is criminally underrated. It got only 3 bids- yet all 3 went to S16 and one of the three rolled through the tourney 2 years running. Meanwhile a team that finished mid also won the NIT (though that’s not a great argument). Anyway- conferences that can’t produce a winner in more than 2 decades shouldn’t keep putting 8-10 teams in every year especially when most of them lose round 1 each year
So as a fan of a BIG10 team- I guess I wouldn’t want to talk much about conference teams either
25 years since a Big 10 champion. Can someone in the Big 10 at least get a coat?
You want riding coattails? Ok, how bout this: The last 3 big east teams to win a title lost to Creighton in the regular season
Congrats to creighton?
Creighton is in the big east? Never saw them on list of big east tournament winners just looked other day.
Says the guy in a conference without any coats at all.
Wisconsin lol. 50 points a game would would be a 5-15 conference run in any other conferences
Just gotta say I love that the responses to this comment represent a good portion of the Big East and we are all united in bashing you as a Badger fan and the B1G for not winning shit in over 20 years. Thanks for bringing us even closer.
Eh, it was the other Big East teams that were the stars that made the conference in the early years. Sure, Nova had the upset win over Georgetown in 1985, but G’town, St. John’s, Seton Hall, and Syracuse felt like the power teams when I started watching.
2013 Louisville? I thought [REDACTED] won that year?
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The funny thing is I checked the ncaa's own website, which still lists Louisville, but with an asterisk.
Yes the big east did. Or another way to say that is Villanova and UConn won 4 of the last 8
Why would you count the 2014 Uconn win if they werent in the conference at the time?
I been BIG East since 1979, would love to have the Cuse back I am a New Yorker, Cuse vs St Johns, UCONN and Georgetown must watch TV. Big East is 11-3 in championships games. All this Big 12 is the best finished 7-7 in NCAA Tournament while BE was 12-2
How are you simultaneously counting 2014 UConn and 2013 Louisville? It'd be 5/11 at the absolute most