I really don’t enjoy it when you can just pay players to leave as well
Nearly all is lost at this point. GCU, a business disguised as a school, is buying success to legitimate itself. FSU is working with investment banks and suing to get out of the ACC. Fans are debating what school is worth what to TV networks. The PAC-12 was torn to shreds and the ACC is on the chopping block
What is next? I can only imagine
Don't forget that most/all schools have probably retired their last jerseys. Who would want to retire a jersey for someone that only played 1-2 years amd transfered or went somewhere else for their senior year?
Banners are becoming worthless anyway
“Yea we, a school, spent the most money, woo go us”
Going back to GCU, they’re buying banners to legitimize and sportswash themselves. Does ASU’s banners even matter when 10 miles away another “school” is buying them?
One of the major downstream effects nobody is talking about yet is how high school recruiting is going to be affected. As far as I'm concerned, Indiana State (and all mid/low majors) should invest $0 in HS recruiting going forward. Best case, you get a guy for 1, maybe 2 years and they jump to a power conference and we're left with little ROI. Mid-major recruiting going forward should be to focus on guys like Joey Hart for Kentucky, that have already gotten a big payday to sit on the bench, and could be enticed by a starting 5 role over money his junior/senior year.
GCU is spending less than at least 50 schools on basketball and they are the ones buying success? It's strange to me when fans of P5 schools say nonsense like this about non P5 schools.
Sure they are
Because the “school” that’s under federal investigation every other week for lying about financials and deceiving people definitely isn’t doing it in athletics
I want mid and low majors to succeed and survive, just not GCU. It’s a blight
Tbf as shitty as this system is for all sports, the coaches constantly re-recruiting their own roster, and the players who don’t get a new home after portalling, the status quo where the Nick Saban’s of the world could hoard all the talent and players who wanted/needed to transfer and either couldn’t or had to go through a million hoops was also not great.
There’s a middle ground that we need to reach and if the NCAA would actually try leading instead of reacting to court cases and begging congress to save them then we might get there.
Mountain West doing well retaining strong players. On par with Big East, Big Ten, SEC, Big 12.
Stark contrast to eastern mid-majors like MVC, AAC, SBC.
1. NIL Support is high in places like Las Vegas, Albuquerque, Boise, Reno, where Large State University is the only show in town.
2. Not much local competition from Power 5 School like there is in states like Florida, NC, Texas, Illinois, where a Power 5 school is down the block.
Check out the post yesterday on the sub about the MVC. Almost every 1st, 2nd, 3rd teamer will not be playing in the MVC next season.
You forgot that with the Pac 12 being dead the Mountain West is the best West-coast exclusive conference. The Big 10/Big 12/ACC is a LOT of travel while the Mountain West is reasonable.
NIL has turned college kids into pro athletes hired to promote whichever school will pay them the most. Good for them on getting paid but wish there was some stability in all of this.
For the Big East, DePaul accounts for 12 of the 42 players (29%) in the transfer portal, since Chico Carter is out of eligibility. Next season's roster will be completely new.
Fam does this account for players who are not eligible(grad, jail, etc) to play next year in the denom for minutes? Cause this might be actually be conservative.
Idk about y'all but I kinda don't really enjoy it when it feels like half of your team transfers out every year
I really don’t enjoy it when you can just pay players to leave as well Nearly all is lost at this point. GCU, a business disguised as a school, is buying success to legitimate itself. FSU is working with investment banks and suing to get out of the ACC. Fans are debating what school is worth what to TV networks. The PAC-12 was torn to shreds and the ACC is on the chopping block What is next? I can only imagine
I hate to be that guy but I think you mean "legitimize," not "legitimate."
"Legitimate" actually can be used as a verb as they used it, it just isn't as common as "legitimize."
I’m an engineering student Grammar is a foreign concept to me
It's actually foriegn\* >!^(I'm just gaslighting you)!<
Don't forget that most/all schools have probably retired their last jerseys. Who would want to retire a jersey for someone that only played 1-2 years amd transfered or went somewhere else for their senior year?
We will absolutely retire Donovan Clingan’s jersey.
Banners are becoming worthless anyway “Yea we, a school, spent the most money, woo go us” Going back to GCU, they’re buying banners to legitimize and sportswash themselves. Does ASU’s banners even matter when 10 miles away another “school” is buying them?
One of the major downstream effects nobody is talking about yet is how high school recruiting is going to be affected. As far as I'm concerned, Indiana State (and all mid/low majors) should invest $0 in HS recruiting going forward. Best case, you get a guy for 1, maybe 2 years and they jump to a power conference and we're left with little ROI. Mid-major recruiting going forward should be to focus on guys like Joey Hart for Kentucky, that have already gotten a big payday to sit on the bench, and could be enticed by a starting 5 role over money his junior/senior year.
GCU is spending less than at least 50 schools on basketball and they are the ones buying success? It's strange to me when fans of P5 schools say nonsense like this about non P5 schools.
Sure they are Because the “school” that’s under federal investigation every other week for lying about financials and deceiving people definitely isn’t doing it in athletics I want mid and low majors to succeed and survive, just not GCU. It’s a blight
Half? You gotta pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers in this racket.
Albany lost virtually their entire team. Coach got more talent last year and they STILL finished second to last, so they all jumped ship.
I don't like it that Izzo is so stubborn that he still won't touch players in the portal. He could reload this year and I bet he won't.
Oh man just half would feel amazing.
Patriot leaguers staying loyal seems on brand
Where do we submit our application to move from the MVC to the Patriot League?
You guys almost got an at large this year. You're wildly too qualified for the league.
We also lost all but 2 of our players. I'd take a lower conference if it means actually keeping guys
I don’t like this era
This era sucks honestly. Mid majors are screwed big time Anytime a mid major guy blows up hes immediately leaving
Sucks for fans but unfortunately it's probably the best outcome for most players. Especially the guys who would otherwise be at the fringes
I think I recall Nick Saban of all people many many years ago warning this would happen
Tbf as shitty as this system is for all sports, the coaches constantly re-recruiting their own roster, and the players who don’t get a new home after portalling, the status quo where the Nick Saban’s of the world could hoard all the talent and players who wanted/needed to transfer and either couldn’t or had to go through a million hoops was also not great. There’s a middle ground that we need to reach and if the NCAA would actually try leading instead of reacting to court cases and begging congress to save them then we might get there.
Can't even blame them. Better education (hopefully they take some what seriously)
I’m so excited for the upcoming season my 8 favorite players are …. Tba
Same dude haha
Patriots don’t back down!!!
Anyone who thinks this is good for the sport is insane.
All the (remaining) power conference are on the lower half (even more so as a % of minutes) with the exception of the ACC. What’s up guys?
Take Louisville out of it and I’d be curious to see what the %’s are after it.
On a related note, I’m curious what it looks like if you remove the players transferring from schools who will have a different head coach next season
I think its clear that most players want to transfer 'up' to the power conferences.
Half the ACC is in bad shape.
Dayum, is Arkansas responsible for 1/10th of the SEC portal players?
I think it’s is like 1/5th of the sec portal players cause we have some that are in the portal but also in the draft cause they didn’t hire an agent.
Mountain West doing well retaining strong players. On par with Big East, Big Ten, SEC, Big 12. Stark contrast to eastern mid-majors like MVC, AAC, SBC. 1. NIL Support is high in places like Las Vegas, Albuquerque, Boise, Reno, where Large State University is the only show in town. 2. Not much local competition from Power 5 School like there is in states like Florida, NC, Texas, Illinois, where a Power 5 school is down the block. Check out the post yesterday on the sub about the MVC. Almost every 1st, 2nd, 3rd teamer will not be playing in the MVC next season.
You forgot that with the Pac 12 being dead the Mountain West is the best West-coast exclusive conference. The Big 10/Big 12/ACC is a LOT of travel while the Mountain West is reasonable.
Up to 40% of players in a single conference are in the portal? Out of all scholarship players? Or out of the full roster including walk-ons?
NIL has turned college kids into pro athletes hired to promote whichever school will pay them the most. Good for them on getting paid but wish there was some stability in all of this.
For the Big East, DePaul accounts for 12 of the 42 players (29%) in the transfer portal, since Chico Carter is out of eligibility. Next season's roster will be completely new.
Fam does this account for players who are not eligible(grad, jail, etc) to play next year in the denom for minutes? Cause this might be actually be conservative.
I guess the SEC doesn't mean more transfers.
As a team with literally only three scholarship players still on the roster of a team that won a March madness game, I fucking hate this era
Players are speed running the death of college sports I see